Film Theory: Game Of Thrones Season 7 ISN'T BROKEN!

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In a series built around undead armies, flying dragons, and blood magic, the most unbelievable events might just be based on mundane travel. The size of Westeros and timeline of Game of Thrones have always been somewhat ambiguous and questionable, but season 7 has really shed a blaring spotlight on some possible timeline issues.
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[@derekmz]

YAY congrats on 5 mil!!!

[@cneep1]

It's now at 5,020,031

[@jacobrobinson9952]

Derek Mendez congrats

[@mcnuggetsful]

Cneep 01 make that 5,020,032

[@lowpolymoose873]

mcnuggetsful 5,020,126

[@sethponder2424]

Derek Mendez Am I the only one that noticed the music in the background is the same music that Jennamarbels uses on her podcast... And congratulations MattPatt!

[@gai73]

I remember in the first episode of season one it took Robert a month to get from kings landing to winterfell.......

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

With a convoy, which takes more time as setting up all the fancy tents and food takes more time too.

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

@Rossriver31 good armies can march some pretty long distances pretty quickly, like how for example caesar took rome.

[@Suja_Varghese]

@@Alexandros.Mograine , It still wouldn't justify this Highgarden takeover in a fortnight.

[@potatogaming7044]

So that’s faster

[@s.sgaming4219]

@@Suja_Varghese I thought a fortnight means 1 day and 1 night and I was like what sort to Valerian sorcery is going on in here??

[@NoHandle44]

This explains why Tyrion Lannister is such a giant when he forges the axe that Thor should have used against Thanos' head.

[@superbeltman6197]

Stormbreaker!!!!!!!

[@KirbyfanDE]

Yeah no. Hodor is explicitly said to be a giant of 7ft

[@hannahfox5422]

Fairly sure Robert is also said to be six and a half feet tall, so unless their measurements are different this theory is a bust.

[@archivist_13]

Do they say this on the show?

[@rohiasplayz]

@@hannahfox5422 well we don't know if the measurements in the show are the same, it is a different world after all

[@aszewci]

​@@rohiasplayz But the basic ruler he establishes here (the Wall) is based on measurements in the book. So you can't apply the book's measurement of the Wall to the show while ignoring the book's measurement of human height.

[@aszewci]

Thanks. My immediate thought was "I'm sure he mentions the height of someone in the book at some point."

[@elliec4154]

As others have mentioned, blaming GRRM is ridiculous. He's not on the writing staff anymore, his books are meticulous in extended travel times. Tyrion takes a whole book to travel to Dany.

[@dickonmanwoody7599]

This show burned me man.

[@thysleppy]

Would it not make more sense if the days where just longer?

[@xYouxGotx0wnedx]

thysleppy their winter and summer cycles are completely different than our earth's cycle. So the planet speed, size could all be different and yes definitely the hours in 1 day are not 24. This makes so much more sense than his theory of giant characters

[@theonlyonce5511]

How about their measurement units are different from ours? 1 Mile in our world ≠ 1 Mile in Westeros

[@CS_____]

Tfw a single sentence comment comes up with a better theory than a 13 minute video

[@khnum8291]

you sir have just murdered this video in cold blood

[@caseybv74]

That's what I was thinking. Their seasons are already fucked.

[@AvocadoLord]

Daenerys and Jon are aunt and nephew, not cousins. Rhaegar was her eldest brother, not her uncle.

[@robertjoasilus5230]

AvocadoLord thank you I thought I was the only one to notice.

[@reyeslord9977]

They are aunt and nephew, but, because Dany's parents were siblings, I think they're also technically cousins (at least Dany and Rhaegar were)

[@robertjoasilus5230]

Reyes Lord wow that's also right.

[@DeadlySoapbox]

Reyes Lord are you trying to say your cousin's child is your cousin?

[@shannonjackson9778]

I was just about to write this.

[@DFalco-nz5tl]

"John snow and Daenerys have to fall in love even though they're cousins" (Shows family tree depicting them as aunt and nephew)

[@atinity6749]

Is Mattpat being simplistic on purpose or is he faker or stupid or I don't know... pandering scam artist? I used to like him a lot but he's made so many mistakes on basic level that I have no choice but to question if he's truly a fan, or if he does any research.

[@nos5915]

@Luna Lovegood Yeah. Incest is complicated. And genetically they're basically siblings too.

[@Blitzo8390]

@@nos5915 That sounds more confusing than Olenna’s explanation to Lorres Tyrell about what his position will be once he marries Cersi

[@nos5915]

@@Blitzo8390 mhmmm

[@1Crivella]

Wouldn't it be easier if a "mile" in that world is just smaller? The name of a unit of measurment in a different world could very well be set on a different standard

[@walrusArmageddon]

Suppose that could be true. Take miles to meters, inches to centimeters

[@bearholdensharkslux4791]

I mean the mountain is said to be around 7 ft. So idk..

[@nos5915]

Except since it is a different world, they probably speak a different language which is being translated as smoothly as the TARDIS' circuits could, and in that situation if a mile were different the word might be different. Personally, I favor the "Day is a Different Length" theory.

[@andtalath]

@@bearholdensharkslux4791 So he's as tall as seven feet? Seems pretty clear why this measurement would be different =P

[@dingo1547]

@@andtalath 8 ft actually.

[@Dave420B]

LOL MatPat: "GRRM specifically set the size of the wall at 300 miles in a 2008 interview" Then proceeds to highlight so that people don't read the rest of the interview. Where he says "I have deliberately tried to be vague about such things, *so I don't have obsessive fans with rulers measuring distances on the map* and telling me that Ned couldn't get from X to Y in the time I say he did." and "If you turn up any mistakes in travel times by using that measure, *let it be your secret.* " Don't get me wrong, the show is ridiculously filled with plot holes and I found the end of this theory actually kind of interesting. But damn dude.

[@Jazziefay16]

Lmaooo

[@Elegant_Sausage]

Shiiit.

[@Fenris1004]

That is Fucking amazing! I completely missed the rest of that interview my first time through!

[@dinastias]

I was about to make that comment but yours sumens up the thing very nicely. I always like the theories wether they're accurate or not beacuse of MatPatt's dedication into making them, but this one was pretty wrong.

[@saruboss18]

Dave420B U SHOULD POST THIS EVERYWHERE, I M SICK OF PEOPLE GETTING SICK OF TIME TRAVEL PLOTHOLE.

[@DJGTheAwesome]

Jon Snow and Daenerys aren't Cousins. Daenerys is Jon's Aunt.

[@exnozero6299]

The family tree in the video even shows that Dany is Jon's Aunt. as she was the youngest of the Mad King's Children. Why do so many people want them to be cousins...

[@LordBloodraven]

Don't know, but MattPat called 'em cousins in the beginning. I guess its the lack of a generation gap.

[@Blackmark52]

Which would make them even more closely related.

[@JamesB00n]

stopped the video right there

[@Mr.VonMorton]

They are aunt and nephew, although with all of the Targ incest they are 44% genetically related, practically siblings.

[@thekingwhocared9107]

Matpat, you seem to be under the impression that GRRM has any hand in the writing of the show at this point. You also seem to believe that evidence in the books can be used with the show, which it can’t. Many aspects of the novels no longer can be connected to the show itself. As an aside, just because dragons and giants exist in the world, that doesn’t mean the logical laws of physics and common sense have been twisted.

[@poocrafter2]

Although the show is now ahead of the books as far as the timeline is concerned the writers still talk to George about his plan for the future books.

[@cbrreezzyy69]

It’s explicitly said Hodor is 7ft tall. This is just reaching for absolutely nothing. And even with this bullshit theory, still wouldn’t be able to explain how Gendry gets from the lands of always winter to the wall, message sent to dany, dany makes it back past the wall in not even 1 day. And guy above me, no they didn’t. They got all their information ahead of time. GRRM had literally nothing to do AT ALL with the show after season 3 or 4, other than being executive producer which is nothing but a title to collect money. There is plenty of proof around the web on that.

[@BenJover]

@@poocrafter2 4 years later but I have to remind you how wrong you are/were

[@ChaoticFeathers]

JON'S AUNT!***** Why is that so hard? Lol GRRM has many sins, but this was D&D squeezing two books in... what 13 episodes?

[@thewatcher1365]

Der Metzgermeister i saw nothing of those two books

[@ladyish0968]

well S6 was TWOW book and S7 & S8 are suppose to be the final book. S7 was actually suppose to be the final season for the final book but they split It in half

[@zxz5754]

LadyiSh09 there is still 2 books to come out....

[@frfras7]

@Merrielle Mandy no not cousins

[@herestoustx6123]

Yeah wtf there is no way they are cousins unless you consider your aunt a cousin...

[@okiii.]

1:32, Isn't Dany the aunt of Jon Snow?

[@tiagocardoso2452]

Manuel Chaland yes bro

[@quincymcburgerking4407]

Manuel Chaland Yeet she is

[@richardbottom9843]

it's slightly more complicated because the Mad King married his own sister, Dany's mom, so Dany and Rhaegar are siblings AND cousins. so Jon is Dany's nephew but also 'first cousin once removed'

[@finnclark8114]

Manuel Chaland yh

[@indhiramor]

Yes. I don't know why they keep calling his cousin.

[@axeljolabero9746]

They metioned in the book that Robert Baratheon is well over 6 feet and hes sopose to be tall. Sry m8 this theory makes no sense

[@jackguest145]

12 feet is well over 6 feet

[@ALatte1]

Jack you're a fucking sassy lass

[@Jmoney18123]

Jack Challenge Robert is mentioned to be 6' 8, with the mountain being measured at Nearly 8 feet. So, yea, matpats theory still doesn't hold up

[@eddiegaytan236]

King Rutger I thought the same thing. Props!

[@mastertucker]

Savannah Currette Lol this is the second time I've seen that excuse "he has better things to do than analyze a tv show" well clearly not considering the video above about analyzing a tv show! If he has better things to do then maybe this wasn't the right film theory to make

[@ArchDethKreation]

Way late on this. But season 7 isn't by George. The show runners are writing it. George's books are most likely going to go in a completely different direction

[@JessielovesNiall]

im preeeetty sure at 10:52 you mean meters? the way from earth to the moon is 384.000 km so damn thats some high walls

[@llff2518]

Even the results are wrong, 80 ft are 24.38m

[@Nihal86]

they converted 80ft as they were miles in kilometers (80miles=128km)

[@ginge641]

Fairly sure it's more than 384 km.

[@tariffictypist7372]

Dang your right 80 feet does not equal 128.74 km neither does it equal 128.74 meters, it equals 24.384 meters. Which is coincidental with that distance between the moon and Earth you calculated at 384,000 km, that's a neat coincidence.

[@idjles]

Why not just say their mile is half our mile?

[@AnimatorBlake]

Because he didn't want to shrink the map of Westeros. He said so in the video. Don't know why, doesn't make sense to me, but this video is heavily flawed.

[@Saviliana]

Incase of someone don't know, acient china's mile is twice shorter then british mile, I guess westeros mile is using the same mile of acient china's

[@Caedus696]

Even if you shrunk it down to half, it is still over 500 miles from eastwatch to dragonstone.

[@Bluetomato666]

Saviliana you actually have no idea what you're even talking about. Are you listening to what you're saying?

[@CraftyF0X]

or their "fortnight" is twice as long for that matter

[@Evergreen2219]

Jon and Daenerys are aunt and nephew. Not cousins.

[@claudiuspulcher2440]

That sounds even more gross somehow

[@romeaskew-davis6850]

Carson Walter and they had the adult fun

[@CarlosRamirez-ns7qw]

Jon and Sansa are cousins.

[@romeaskew-davis6850]

Carlos Ramirez no the are aunt and nephew

[@CarlosRamirez-ns7qw]

Thegamingromeo Jon and Sansa are cousins dude. What else could they be

[@stevenstevenson9365]

OR they just use units twice as small, and the people are the same size.

[@elija0349]

Steven Stevenson Exactly.

[@KingOfInfinity1]

Or even more likely, a fortnight just means more than 14 days.

[@PeterEhik]

or even more likely, just bad writing and we can move on

[@lordihlendam3619]

TL;DR Season 7 is broken. FYI, you could have used the simpler notion that a day is twice is long as an Earth day. Westeros has some *crazy* seasonal dynamics - which I personally accounted to a planet on an extremely eccentric orbit. Therefore, it isn't beyond reason that the world of ASOIAF spins slower than Earth

[@dingo1547]

GRRM has stated that the long seasons are due to magic not science.

[@internetduck1520]

they're not cousins - they're nephew and aunt.

[@peachesdontsuckyoudo5052]

ChasmaHyena they're both....(because of...ya know)

[@gandalfthegrey2699]

Let's get some things straight. 1. The writers of Game of Thrones have split off from the books, so you shouldn't be blaming George RR Martin for this. 2. The mentioned height of Gregor Clegane is something like eight feet tall which is accurate for his character in our measurement standards 3. Jon and Dany are not cousins, they are nephew and aunt 4. If you look at a picture of The Wall with people standing outside of it, like at 11:35, you can measure how tall that person is compared to the 700ft wall behind them and the people seem to be human sized. 5. People, animals, monsters, and dragons would have serious health problems if they were double the size. It would be impossible for many to exist. 5. There are so many plot holes and things that don't make sense in the new season like how is Euron literally everywhere on the ocean? Wouldn't have someone noticed the majority of the Lannister army marching across the continent to high garden? Why didn't Lord Varys notice that with all his spies? Why can't Dany just wear some armor to be protected from arrows? How could Gendry run all the way to the wall, send a raven, have Dany fly her dragons all the way back past the wall and save Jon in only one night? How could Dany have marched an entire Dothraki army to the Lannisters without them noticing? I very much enjoy the new season and I think MatPat does a great job of getting out weekly theories, but there are many holes both with the show and this theory.

[@assdan27]

So, there are two major fights that Euron has this season, and based on the timeline of the show, he could have been at both but I will say that he could have been at both, just barely. I don't think the next three questions really need to be answered, so I'll skip them. But, it's never really established how far the fight in the last episode occurs from the wall, so Gendry, could have possibly reach it in an hour or two. It's never really stated how fast the Dragons can fly as well, but it seems to be pretty fast. So the big issue is definitely the speed that the raven travels at. The raven would basically have to travel 3 times faster than they can on Earth for it to reach Dany in a day. And with the Dothraki army, I don't remember where they were supposed to initially attack, so don't have much to say about them. I'll say though, that this season is definitely not as well written as previous seasons. Everything has to occur just so this season, while everything generally made perfect sense in other seasons.

[@Ryuk45]

Do you know why they split off from the books? Because George RR Martin is a lazy fat fuck who hasn't released a good book for 15 years and he refused to give a definitive ending to the series. It's entirely GRRM's fault.

[@assdan27]

It's hard to disagree with this to some degree. GRRM put out his last Song of Ice and Fire book over 6 years ago, which was just after the first season began. Seriously? It takes you 6 years to finish a book? Maybe he should stop writing spin-offs and offshoots and actually finish the series.

[@IshtheStomach]

Criticize GRRM's writing speeds after you invent a universe, with complex histories and political struggles, mythos and cultures, and publish a few novels set in that universe, get the series picked up by a major cable network and spawn a pop culture phenomenon. I agree once the series got picked up the smart choice would have been for him to prioritize finishing it, or he'd run the risk of the show moving faster than the novels. But that's a concession he chose to make, and his reasons are his own.

[@pieterpietersen9438]

About gendry, it was clearly not in one night. The thickness of ice needed for a crowd is ~10cm and it with a temperature of ~-27Cdegrees it would take about 80 hours to grow. Other people have calculated it completely. Their result: it fits

[@brain5437]

Don't say Georgie, this is all showrunner BS.

[@_thebigpig_5769]

The Bmiller George is one of the showrunners

[@sidhaarthln6914]

_ TheBigPig _ not really. He hasn't been involved for a while

[@benzenering2183]

_TheBigPig_ He was. But only until the show caught up to his books. After then, he just gave the writers a short pinpointed list of the main events he has imagined to happen after his latest released book, just in case he dies for some unexpected reason or something. He is still writing his last 2 books for the song of ice and fire series - "The winds of winter" and "a dream of spring", but there is bound to be many differences in plot from the show. Everything in the season 7 and most of the season 6 was basically only driven by the show writer's imagination.

[@procinctu1]

The Bmiller D and D is more accurate.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

Yeah, GRRM has nothing to do with the show anymore. Hasn't for a while. You KNOW the books won't have these errors.

[@anaiglesias9972]

This is why George said that to tell this story you need 10 seasons.

[@mahtaran]

10:51 128.74 KM Tall?!? Geez those are some high walls.

[@gilokamba4431]

Mahtaran A.K.A. Luka ahaha lmao! Glad I'm not the only one to notice that 😂

[@kodnot]

The video says tall, look at it yourself :P

[@commander-fox-q7573]

He did say there are some pretty wacky proportions XD (and conversions)

[@omega9216]

look again

[@user-zs1vx7sv7g]

Mahtaran A.K.A. Luka trump

[@BoomSEVENBoom]

This theory wouldn't make sense, since the mountain is stated to be 8ft tall. Therefore if the average male is about 6ft, according to your theory they'd be 12ft. Thus, this can't be true since no one is taller than the mountain. I believe the only plausible theory is that the measurements in westeros are different from our measurements!

[@jamesrua1153]

Literally makes way more sense. Doesn't excuse a lot of the shows plot holes but its not like its explicitly their fault with the pressure they have

[@BoomSEVENBoom]

James Rua yeah the show is still the best out there, hands down! However, we all can agree the writing isn't as good as it used to be ;(

[@annedavis3340]

Khaled and that is cause they can't ride George's coattails anymore. Their true "skill" is showing now. That godawful X-Men Origins movie was Benioff's writing as well....

[@perfectibility999]

If people are double sized on Planetos, then their feet are twice as long, and in the Planetos' measurement system, one foot is equal to two feet in our world.

[@mumumumu666]

Khaled Matpat probably knows but doesn't care or he didn't even bother to do the research this was just a filler where he said the first thing that came to his mind like his last 20 videos or so

[@kristinaporter2629]

why you blaming george though? it's d&d's fault not his. also gotta love super sonic ravens.

[@ladyish0968]

its Georges too for making a series that wasn't meant to be put on screen, yet he signed off to do it anyway then left everyone involved in the show hanging. but purists will never criticize George for anything

[@theboy1625]

LadyiSh09 wow so your saying it’s okay to crucify the man just because he got few time and measurements wrong. it’s not the guys fault for creating a incredible book series

[@desertedstranger2914]

That's not at all what she said. What she was saying is that its George RR Martin's fault for signing off on a series that he hasn't even finished yet!!!! He basically let HBO finish the story because he wasnt able to do so. He shit the bed right at the end.

[@mijanhoque1740]

It’s his fault for taking so god damn long to release the last 2 books.

[@moonman1102]

Yes, because you're all so wonderful and amazing that you would give up millions of dollars for a ton of people you dont know.

[@cathsaigh2197]

GRRM has some problems with time management too, but Season 7 problems aren't his.

[@ladyish0968]

yeah he should've finished the books

[@juicecollector9099]

LadyiSh09 he is working on it

[@andalilbitqueer]

@@juicecollector9099 :")

[@adammadanat]

1:32 they're not cousins, they're aunt and nephew

[@totalcoward]

Adams Md "cousins" just means they're related by blood and one didn't give birth to the other. For instance, my grandmother is also my cousin. I know it sounds kind of stupid, but that's mainly because of the flaws in language as a whole.

[@marlonpabello1533]

...that sounds worse.

[@Maurauth]

zarfot you totally missed the point

[@zarfottofraz7732]

How so?

[@zarfottofraz7732]

Theyre both aunt/nephew. and cousins. So saying theyre not cousins isn't true. That was the point was it not?

[@detestor420]

its not GRRMs writing .. its D & Ds writing.. theyre the idiots who want to just end the show they devoted so much too

[@kylepietrusiewicz2749]

Detestor 420 it kind of happened in early seasons

[@Suja_Varghese]

They don't want to end it per say. They just want to create a serviceable product which not to dedicated fans will like with their own creativity.

[@Suja_Varghese]

@@kylepietrusiewicz2749 , A little in the earlier seasons. But season 7 was too easy to call out.

[@brummbar7251]

Too bad most of us were blind to this back when this was posted lol

[@Alegost1]

i was laughing so hard when you got to the army movements together with those images.... just hilarious

[@twincitiestara]

Wouldn't it be way simpler to just assume that a Westeros "mile" is about half the length of the real-world English standard mile? After all, a mile has meant many things in many different cultures. The Chinese mile is only 500m.

[@nicemelbs]

With winters and summers lasting for years at a time, it's not much of a stretch to assume that they're in a planet with similar features than Earth's but with a vastly different weather pattern. Now, considering that, it's easier to imagine that they simply have longer days than ours. Longer days but roughly similar years. ie instead of 365 days, a year in their world takes less days, to explain why they dont look much older.

[@Vardaris]

nicemelbs actually the theory is interesting but the info we have from the books about the attempts to explore Sothoryos (a continentsouth of Essos) and the attempts to discover land at the west of Westeros suggest that the planet is much larger than Earth.

[@MideanTsukasa]

Historically the length of a foot changed at the whim of the monarchy. It stands to reason that miles could also change their length in a similar manner.

[@megadeathx]

If you took a dragon from England and rode it for weeks on end, do you think you'd reach the southern tip of Africa? I seriously doubt it. Their world and ours are similarly sized.

[@Vardaris]

megadeathx Actually you would. From London to the southern part of Europe is around 4000 miles also Africa from the most northern to the most southern part is around 5000 miles. So you roughly need to travel 9000 miles. In the show the dragon covers 1000 miles in a day. Let's asume this is too much and cannot do it every day, we will assume it can cover just 400 miles a day. This is very easy it means that the dragon would fly at 80 mph for 5 hours a day which is very very feasible and allows for rest etc. This means that at this pace it would take 22.5 days for the dragon to make the distance or around 3 weeks which is not that much actually.

[@robertopran1587]

Or... like... you know... their foot is half the size of our foot?

[@bobbyt9593]

YES!, Just like what happened with napoleon

[@jakubk.8836]

What happened with Napoleon?

[@bobbyt9593]

you know all the people said he was short but then they found out the french inch is longer than the English inch.

[@YouWantMooreOfThis]

Its probably more likely but theres no evidence to support it

[@valdonchev7296]

French units of measurement, while called the same as British ones, were longer, making Napoleon sound shorter to the British. Also, people in general were shorter back then, but basically Napoleon wasn't the dwarfish emperor he's made out to be.

[@drhexagonapus]

well goerge didn't write that scene, this came after the 5th book so he had nothing to do with season 7 and the show has gone so far from the books already don't blame the writer

[@dariafirestar1393]

A Winter is never late, nor is it early, it arrives precisely when it means to.

[@Enzo-zb1it]

Dany is the Aunt of Jon not the Cousine...

[@tylermcnally9931]

Weird I was pretty sure she was the cuisine

[@Reids0me]

Idk man I think she's about to be his cuisine if you know what I mean.

[@shehabyehia4970]

she is the sister of Rhaegar Targaryen which is also the father of jon snow which make her is aunt

[@CIASpyvan]

Apparently Shehab did not.

[@dragonflies6793]

Yeah, but when you think about it, that's worse.

[@ravenlord4]

But, What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen raven ?

[@flagrus7901]

African or European raven?

[@worldfamousgi86]

Flagrus I... I don't know. AHHHHhhhhhh...

[@ilhanbabacan790]

Wait, A Northen or Southern raven

[@dorukevcim7578]

How do you know so much about ravens??

[@elrond532]

Well, you have to know these things when you're a king.

[@maxfang12]

Yeah... no sorry... "Shae only stood a shade over five feet, yet still he must look up to her..." A Clash of Kings, Tyrion I

[@thatdudetom6227]

So your telling me that the dwarf played by Peter Dinklage could actually have been from GOT

[@justafan9517]

Anyone else think the episode was going to be about how gendry sent the raven and danaerys barely made it from that one island place in like a day or so

[@sryan9547]

The distance from eastwatch to dragonstone is 1,500 miles. A raven flies at 50 mph. It would have taken the Raven 30 hours to get there. Also it took Gendry several hors to run back to eastwatch and it would have taken Dany at least 10 hours to fly to the lake. We are talking over 2 days before Dany would have got there.

[@michaelpiccillo3570]

S Ryan don't you just love how people need the flying speed of ravens to check out, but accept fire breathing dragons hatched from a blood sacrifice?

[@TheMinecraftHype]

I'm sorry... a dragon flies just 3x faster? I would assume a little bit more (but we don't know). Also, they spent about part of a day, a full night, and part of another day, stuck on an island. We can't know for sure how long they spent during the day - but if dragons can fly faster (which I would guess it takes less than 10 hours, maybe even half?), and they spent large portions of both day cycles trapped, it is plausible.

[@geno9788]

RK9 no, you have to consider more than the fly speed. Dany would die at those speeds. 100 miles an hour at best making it 20 hours. But she still would have made it as ice takes days to freeze. It actually all checks out it's all fake news

[@joshpeterken8514]

Just because it's fantasy doesn't mean that physics isn't a thing.

[@goldeneyetm]

10:53 128.74 KM tall / 61.76 KM tall? You know what a kilometer is? I would like to see a castle like that though.

[@heyizzy9050]

Obviously not

[@XxFennasxX]

80 feet is about 24,384 meters tall and 39 feet is 11,8872. Took me about 1 minute to find this ... Someone needs to do some research ... also the cousin thing...

[@freshwhitezahn]

Think he was just tired and did so much research on miles and kilometers that he just mixed foot->meter with mile->kilometer small mistake... Forgivable

[@satoshimori5130]

look at the ft then bro

[@bloodfalconfantastic4445]

Or the show has terrible writers. With no more books to work off of they ignore logic.

[@poocrafter2]

They do have books to work off of. Although the books are not caught up to the show, the writers still talk with George about his plan for future books to maintain integrity.

[@jbulletc]

Nah. The fans are just retards mostly. Every problem every brought up has been explained in the show but fans are stupid as hell.

[@whenthedustfallsaway]

@@jbulletc not all of it has been explained but a lot of it is just stupid claims from purists

[@Suja_Varghese]

@@jbulletc , What? What's been explained? You seem like an idiot calling people who call out bad writing 'retards'.

[@Chavjul]

You do know that s7 is all tv-writers and not a minute of GRRM?

[@7OwlsWithALaptop]

Does he not realize that Goerge R.R. Martin does not write the show?!

[@missmiameak8097]

Myrdin Osrek do you not realize that theories are not necessarily cannon and are often just fun conjecture?

[@7OwlsWithALaptop]

Mary Knudsen This has nothing to do with the shitty theory.

[@Iwatoda_Dorm]

eh, its fun to rip on the guy. This isn't the focal point tough...

[@EZIOXXX777]

He isn't too bright, even if he thinks he is, so yo have to keep that in mind everytime you watch his videos.

[@TaurionMartell]

Grrm doesn't even watch the show anymore

[@johnsajo6399]

You keep citing George R.R. as if he wrote the seventh season of GoT. He didn't. GRR is a producer and I doubt he is even working on the show at all since, he is writing the 6th book. Calling out GRR for this wonky season is inaccurate. In the books this sort of editing and physically impossible feats would not happen. It might be easy to blame George but really it has nothing to do with him.

[@dieauferstehung]

are you fuckin stupid? Martin told DB weiss and benioff of the plot Obviously not in detail but enough to get a line to follow along

[@NeverNedDead]

he is not and never will write the books my friend. Give up the hope now :/

[@benderc.moriarti3419]

dieauferstehung No, man. He could've told them the rest of the plot by bulletpoints but the execution is D&D's responsability. They are the ones that gave Jaime a weightless armor in that lake, Jon's weightless soaked furs in that other lake, Gendry's artic maraTron where he ran in one afternoon the equivalent of days of walking, Dany flying at the speed of an airliner and arrived with a spotless hairjob....Martin isn't guilty of D&D's shennanigans.

[@seifer93]

George R.R. Martin writing books? lol. He's too busy going to conventions and shit to finish the series.

[@gokuformanvsfood]

no it is Georges fault, they signed on to adapt the books to a show, not write them for him.

[@nikkigrimm9686]

awww the way Matpat is trying to make the broken time in GoT work is so cute! It reminds me of that dark period in my life when I was trying to make the indoctrination theory happen to cope with the aftermath of the ME3 endings...

[@NewGoldStandard]

got here a few months late... glad to see you already passed that 5M mark, well done. and, great content as always.

[@MarcelRz]

10:49 hey mat, you might want to check your measurements, because im pretty sure that winterfell's walls are not 129 km high.....

[@gilokamba4431]

Marcel Ruizendaal ikr?! I think it's his second video in a row where he messed up when converting to the metric system

[@pierce3087]

It was either a conversion mistake or he meant meters, not kilometers.

[@kranker114]

It's more likely that the 300 miles for the wall is inaccurate (by many miles) than comparing it to the theory that the size of beings are doubled in relative scale to things on earth. Not to mention that it would be biologically impossible if the gravity was similar to earth. A more logical reason that they made it on time in what appears to be a long distance is due to inaccurate drawn distances in map scaling. Places that are visited or traveled much more often will get more drawn detailed paths and terrain details (the line is also drawn out more not to scale). Then when you have much fewer people visit places of the north like Castle Black (the wall) the map would be more simplified. Though in reality the north should actually be drawn on the map to be seen to cover a much larger area. TLDR: The map distance scaling per location is likely inaccurate due to the popularity of route. Therefore the wall as a map distance gauge would be entirely inaccurate. P.S. What I said up above is just a theory (a film theory). Though I know that GRRM made an official map but my theory would still hold up a candle due to it being GRRM interpretation of how the people in Game of Thrones would make such a map. *Edits*: I corrected some mistakes and grammar.

[@PHANTOMCOWGIRL]

....Or the map (Which seems, by the style, to be a possible map already used by the people of GOT.) is simply scaled wrong. Even the 'more popular, more detail' makes sense, even with the wrong scaled map.

[@kranker114]

Yeah pretty much.

[@despresso3686]

Googolparsec I have to agree with you, makes more sense and is very likely.

[@Gameorama91]

But in a show to try and logically figure things out...you gotta go with what your given. The map is supposedly canon right? You can assume that the things given to us are simply wrong or mistaken...but then you don't have much to work with, and then who's to say the show didn't get a ton of other things wrong within it's own lore and boundaries? And if the argument becomes "the canon material given to us is simply wrong" then...what's the point of following a story if that statement can just be applied to it? Then the show can just get away with having bad writing.

[@kranker114]

I'm saying that the Wall's drawing on the map is smaller than it should actually be drawn in comparison to everything else on the map. In other words the distance they needed to travel in a fortnight is actually shorter if you bring the drawn map of the north larger to its true map size. So instead of 660 and 840 (1500) miles it would actually be a fraction of the distance if you brought the Castle Black's Wall distance to equal scale of Westeros. Though in addition the Wall could indeed actually be smaller considering the amount of men needed to upkeep such a wall.

[@theycallmerainy2010]

12:30 that would mean that your blood alcohol level proportions are way off!

[@superfire6463]

I’ve never watched anything about GoT except your theories

[@Bruester]

WAIT just a second... Look at the family tree at 1:32. It says Rhaella Targaryen was born in 254 AC and her son Rhaegar was born in 259 AC... So she had him when she was 5 years old?! That's fucked up even by Targaryen standards if that's true. Edit: That's probably just a typo meant to be 244 AC, but it's still messed up.

[@Kekkai_]

It means that days/month/years are longer in GoT universe which would also be a better theory then this one.

[@TheJaredtheJaredlong]

OR it substantiates the more popular theory that time works differently in Westeros.

[@eydenhastati5838]

It is a probably a typo, even so her birth year is not known for fact but speculated to be about 242-246 AC. (as the faith would not be fond of such an early pregnancy and also biology)

[@Kekkai_]

Defiantly with those weird ass seasons time is pretty different in Westeros. Also might have some relation to Westeros's size compared to the entire planet, Orbit around their sun, axis of their planet, planet's rotation speed, gravity (sun's pull), mass etc. People suspend their disbelief for all of these factors but travel time is what breaks their immersion lol

[@MonteCreations]

Its incorrect; Rheagar's mother was born in 245-246 AC. Granted that still would only make her 13-14 years old, but that's the middle ages for ya.

[@samuelschonenberger]

George has nothing to do with this! It's d&d who do that If George would write this the whole journey it would take half a book and he would document and describe every single meal to the smallest detail

[@rjhobbes6441]

yeah my thoughts exactly, well maybe not the detail thing but as you say this not GRRMs doing but the tv peoples.

[@aaronstreet1054]

“I gotta BINGE!!” ❤️ I feel that lol👍🏻👍🏻

[@nodnarb3540]

You’d think seeing you repeat the L’Oréal gag when you showed Dany wouldn’t be as funny the second time, but I spit out my Drink. Thanks!

[@renevolny3575]

Two things 1. Jon and Daenerys are not cousins but nephew and aunt 2. Don't blame for this teleportation shit Geroge, he hasn't been part of making the show since season 5 so all this teleportation shit, stupid storytelling and plot armor is work of fucking D&D Otherwise good video

[@muhammadgalal98]

don't blame D&D for not finishing a song of ice and fire better than its creator ! their job was to develop the source material to be fit for TV not to write it by their own ! he promised HBO in 2006 to finish the last three books before the show's ending and he didn't finish the last two yet. if he doesn't know how to finish his own story in 7 years so far how would they finish it in few months?

[@juliawinters6781]

They actually might be cousins. I won't spoil anything if you don't want to hear the theory though.

[@renevolny3575]

Julia Winters Tell me

[@juliawinters6781]

René Volný First off, I doubt MatPat knows about this, he just messed up. Obviously we know that Jon's true parentage now. Which is the thing. Before that reveal you probably thought the song of ice and fire was about Jon and Dany right? But now it is either solely Jon or the song of ice and fire and fire, it seems unbalanced to before. Idk if you read the books but Selmy thinks about how Ashara Dayne was tossed aside by a Stark brother at a camp. Which is really oddly vague. There is a bluray extra that discusses this but I am still looking for it. Readers probably assumed Brandon, I know I did, but he did seem dedicated to Cat. Ned however was single. It is possible that Ned got Ashara pregnant and Varys did something to put Dany in place of the baby that was supposed to be born when Rhaella died. Viserys was only 5 and he is the only one to collaborate the story. Ashara is not a Targaryen but she does have purple eyes, so probably a descendant of Valyria. So Dany would be the daughter of Ashara and Ned. Didn't it seem a little odd that Ned would quit being Hand of the King over the assassination attempt? He takes his duty very seriously. Then Dany and Jon would both be the song of ice and fire. There are three part youtube videos if you want to hear more.

[@renevolny3575]

Yea I heard about this before.. i think it was on Preston's channel, right?

[@GlaciusTS]

Is it possible that a day is longer in Westeros than IRL? I mean... if they are on a different planet, couldn't the sun take twice as long to rise and set? The planet could be larger and spin slower, could it not?

[@StoneTitan]

This actually sound like a better theory than what the videos maker mentioned.(far more) We already know that the summer & winter seasons takes far more time.(I do kinda wonder just how big their silos must be to have a chance of feeding a population for potentially a decade)

[@wesleyhunt7599]

Plausible. Esp. given the tilt of the Earth is different. MatPat was pulling stuff out his ass at the end. Occam's Razor suggests this to be the better solution.

[@Biggybi]

And winters could last for years? Please...

[@justhallowed8499]

GlaciusTS they would still hunger and tire at the same rate.Being in daylight don't suddenly give us energy we are not plants

[@zacht9447]

Now this is a far more realistic theory as the mountain is already listed as 8 feet tall which ruins this theory

[@spacedragon8929]

That explanation about tall humans/short walls at 11:15 gave off the same energy as "I'm not as think as you drunk I am!" the first time I heard it.

[@ArthurHerbst]

If you double the size, youll square the weight. Meens muscles sinew and bone has to be much larger and thicker to support the weight (ever wondered why ants spiders etc have propotionally thin legs? Yeah, squared weight). It doesent look like it though in GoT. I think we have to admitt that the screwed it up. (though its not G.R.R who did, since the show is by now far seperated from the books.)

[@deancena]

This doesn't explain why the army of the dead are taking so long to march, they don't even need to sleep or eat all they're doing is marching. Also why is Gilly's Baby taking so long to age.

[@Wilderwolfman]

sssssshhhhhhh your logic is making too much sense.

[@goran77ish]

TO march to the wall and just sand there for 5 years? Maybe they will do it now since they have the way to bring it down.

[@CustomWeapons]

You're imagining their march too literally. The wall was made with magic to keep them out. It's not as simple as the White Walkers marching to the wall and attacking. There's clearly something else at play that they're waiting for, which is why people have suggested they're waiting for the Bay of Seals to freeze over so they can walk past Eastwatch.

[@daswasich1147]

maybe the white walkers first have to kill every child of the forest to overcome the magic or they want to get every corpse of the north before they can even think about an attack. Don't forget, it's not the first time they want to kill all humans and they failed the last time, but they want to end it now, they can not allow themselves any mistakes .... just a theory (tm)

[@Iqbalx1]

Dean Williamson the night king probably knew a dragon would show up eventually due to him marking bran so he decided to wait for one to show kill it turn it into a wight and use it to melt the wall

[@iamsemjaza]

It could be 500 miles of wall that covers 300 miles of "straight line" distance if the wall has to curve around certain geographical landmarks.

[@Amy-yf9zc]

i like this comment, this comment is smart. comments should be more like this comment. (this sounds really patronising but it's genuinely a good thought)

[@iamsemjaza]

Always glad to offer a smart remark ;)

[@assdan27]

Yeah, that's not hard to assume. Walls can't usually be perfectly straight.

[@andrejoss475]

to me the wall seems pretty straight to i dont think it would be 200 more miles long, probably around 50 miles max

[@Joenah5]

What is your opinion on the Bran is the Night King theory?

[@1000000man1]

This actually inadvertently predicts Peter Dinkliage's role in Infinity War

[@GiovanniAuditore]

George R. R. Martin isn't to blame for this season's shoddy writing, you have the two plebs David Benioff and D. B. Weiss to thank for that. George's books aren't at season 7 yet, they roughly end at season 6, so stop blaming Georgey boy!

[@Leooel9]

ELITERgamersUK Well D&D can be cut some slack though. They didn't sign up to write Game of Thrones fanfiction for the show. They've done a great job so far and I imagine they expected Winds of Winter to be released and then have worked with a draft of A Dream of Spring for Season 8. It is much easier to write from an established plot than to create your own. They just know the ending and a few arcs for characters. Also the studio pressure must be immense. HBO wants to have as many episodes as possible, as fast as possible, to make as much money as possible. I imagine that D&D only got a year or two to write all the scripts for the season which means everyone saying they're shit writers isn't wrong but comparing them to George is just unfair. He gets all the time he wants to finish a novel. Which is why Season 8 will probably be delayed to actually get the scripts polished and the finale perfect. With ten episodes we might not have gotten such cool moments like The Field of Fire 2.0 or The Suicide Squad in the North or maybe they would just be less awesome. The show, while it is immense, does not have an unlimited budget. When you watch the behind the scenes videos you can see just the sheer amount of work that goes into the show. I think D&D can be cut some slack, they're not great writers but they're writing the biggest show on television, with massive studio and fan pressure all while delivering a still enjoyable experience. We're at the climax of a journey, all the plots are coming together. I say enjoy the ride.

[@hayleyversailles6946]

Man dude that was inspiring... really. I just look at it as two tellings of the same tale

[@funoff3207]

ELITERgamersUK I kept wincing each time he blamed George :(

[@Raphael4722]

GRRM is working as adviser for them though.

[@futurestoryteller]

Oh yeah... just like Martin didn't write Stannis burning his daughter...

[@mayilanthanigai6901]

Matpat, quick question, how come you have time to do this theory, but not enough time to finish a theory that has been unfinished for about 2 years?

[@mathewsmith2281]

WHO? matpat? He would never do that! Never!

[@danukil7703]

Mathew Smith WHO, I say! WHO!

[@strifenineteen]

Mathew Smith the irony of your name makes it even funnier

[@Yuzurea]

WE NEED PART THREE TO DOCTOR WHO! REEE

[@sherlockastral1121]

Mayilan Thanigai he actually mentioned this in a livestream. He's finished it, but he believes the ending isn't worth an episode. It's too dissatisfying. He doesn't want to upload it.

[@GvinahGui]

Wouldn't 'a foot' be scaled up, too? I mean, if it was in meters maybe it wouldn't change. But, because a foot was initially the length of a literal foot, their values would be the same as ours (or at least similar due to variations on feet sizes). Unless they were twice as big everywhere else but the feet.

[@iwy8879]

MatPat saying 'Shameless plug!' was everything.

[@tenaciousadagio]

Did you just say Jon and danny are cousins?!

[@Redem10]

He did, which is innacurate they are aunt and Nephew

[@JamesT094]

Yeah he's a fucktard.

[@DippyTheFresh]

They are aunt and nephew

[@ZebulonZ]

But since he had a picture on the screen showing they're not I guess he just said the wrong thing and then his editor forgot to correct it during editing.

[@johncairns5069]

Technichally there 2nd cousins and aunty and nephew you know with the incest and all

[@cyrildasquril100]

One of your weaker theories...

[@llamalady]

Ive found a loophole to that theorie: the measurement ft was created after the size of: a foot. So if everything would be twice as big, so would the measurement foot be... which defeats the whole point again

[@Nordy941]

Maybe Cersi was being factious with the whole "give me a fortnight" comment. She is keeping him as an honored guest so he could chill out and relax for awhile before he begins to complain.

[@maewinter1531]

JON AND DANY ARE NOT COUSINS. Dany is Jon's AUNT. Let me say this again - DANY'S OLDER BROTHER IS JON'S BIOLOGICAL FATHER. JON SNOW IS THE NEPHEW TO DAENERYS TARGARYEN. They are not cousins.

[@futurestoryteller]

THEY ARE STILL COUSINS EITHER WAY

[@maewinter1531]

But they are aunt and nephew first. Incest screws things up, but on the base level they are aunt and nephew.

[@catherinetheegreat8742]

cousins" just means they're related by blood and one didn't give birth to the other. For instance, my grandmother is also my cousin. I know it sounds kind of stupid, but that's mainly because of the flaws in language as a whole.

[@zarfottofraz7732]

No they're cousins because the mad king and his wife were brother/sister, meaning rhaegar and daeneys are both cousins and siblings, Rhaegar being Jon's father makes Daenerys and Jon second cousins (cousins once removed). Jon is Daenerys' nephew but theyre technically cousins too . Incest does screw it up, but technically they are both cousins and aunt/nephew. If you wanna go by the technical definition and call your grandma and grandpa a cousin, ok then you do that. Theyre both though

[@Myr-automotors]

In a world when brothers and sisters, are fucking each other and having 4 kids, i wouldnt surprice that they ending fucking and having kids too. because why not? sorry for bad english

[@KristopherCarlyle]

maybe the people aren't twice as large, maybe the days are twice as long? so a fornight is not 336 earth-hours but 672, and people get twice as much done in a day as they do on earth

[@seaofbloodredroses9940]

Nothing has hinted that. The characters in the show are human, and nothing has implied them to be anything other than human, so I wouldn't place any bets on the days being any sort of different length - we have no mentions at all of napping in the middle of the day or anything, and this is something that would be relevant to the story and mentioned. I did post a comment about how, unfortunately, MatPat is wrong in this case, and that that kind of length is definitely possible, just difficult.

[@broskander3671]

Sea of Blood Red Roses to be fair we do know that the world in GoT does not work like earth. Just look at their seasons. So longer days makes more sense than giant people

[@seaofbloodredroses9940]

Tyler Hood Well, as I said in my comment, which you should read, longer days are something significant in the story of the world, and would be pointed out. There might be an hour or so variance, but to the degree that he is saying needs to exist, no.

[@terezamalacova7712]

But if you consider the days could be longer because of the planet's rotation time, then you could say they divide their day the same way we do, into 24 hours, each hour into 60 minutes and so on, so what you would essentially claim is that a Westerosi second actually equals 2 Earth seconds or a similar measure that would fix it. Therefore the velocity of their movement would increase and voilá, problem fixed. The process of evolution would make them adapt to the day/night lenght of their world.

[@GamerGrovyle]

Kristopher Burt They wouldn’t have the energy to do all that work. A human normally sleeps a fourth of the day 8~ hours out of the 24 hours that make up a day. If the days were twice as long they’d all be awake for 36~ hours straight (provided the standard sleep schedule of our peaceful dragon-free world.) You try to work for 36 hours straight without sleep and then 12~ hours of rest. Odds are you’ll collapse from exhaustion within a month (and so would the GOT characters).

[@ChaosToRule]

It is said in episode one or two of season one that it takes a month to travel from Winterfell to King's Landing.

[@godzillagirl5626]

I hope MatPat does at least one more Game of Thrones Theory before the show finally

[@whawkins97]

wouldn't it be more plausible to suggest their days are longer. Since a westeros winter can last years, it'd make more sense that a westeros day lasts longer than ours (e.g. like 40 hours) and a fortnight could be 4 weeks as opposed to 2. I still like your theory but i thought this made more sense than tyrion being taller than Shaq

[@orfeas248]

why are you acting like GRRM actually wrote this shitty season?

[@LTN000]

I'm dissapointed you did not use a "Hugh Mungus" picture from that meme clip when you said cersei is in humongous debt :D

[@cjwrench07]

Still 1 year away from the final season. Damn Zombie winter takes along time to come.

[@mazzy3303]

MAT! COME ON! ITS BEEN 2 YEARS! WHERE IS TIMELORD EXIST PART 3? 2 YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSS MAN!!!!! Unless you were wrong about a TIMELORD existing...

[@humanoid251]

FlyingFaces ooooh thems is fightin words. Let's see if Mat squares up

[@pinkpixels4499]

FlyingFaces what if he was RIGHT about a timelord existing and time-pat doesn't want to expose himself

[@Mrenisenko]

10:00 "Everything is as twice as large" - or, i dunno, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT UNIT MEASUREMENT!? Make their mile a 100 feet long and BOOOM, there you have it!

[@schit2391]

Enis Becirovic sure you posted that in the right place.

[@annikinlu3038]

George said in real life terms the wall is 300 miles long, so the unti measurement is a no go, as it has to do with time anyway, not length.

[@MinMinn192]

Now, MatPat, I can excuse the poor quality of your theories lately, because we all know that it's your source of income, but there's just one thing that bugs me to no end in this video; you blaming GRRM for everything. He didn't even write a single episode this season. Honestly, I'm pretty sure he's bashing his head against the wall as much as we are, because the people truly to blame right now are David Benioff and Dan Weiss. If GRRM had any control over anything this season, which he didn't because he wants to focus on writing The Winds of Winter, he would have prevented or changed many of this season's events. Hell, I can disprove your little "everything is twice as big" theory with a couple sentences and some basic physics. GRRM himself has noted that the planet Westeros, Essos etc. are on is round, and approximately 25% bigger than Earth. Assuming the existence of life similar to Earth (humans, livestock, birds, critters as we know them), we can confidently say that the planet is very similar in composition as well. That means it would be just as dense. Thus, it's gravity is quite a bit stronger than what it is on Earth. If everything was twice as big, the planet's gravity would have squished everything back to our sizes, and perhaps even smaller, long before the First Men arrived in Westeros. The only thing supporting your theory right now is magic, and I'm not bloody having that.

[@anonymous7808]

In 1066, King Harold’s forces travelled 80 km a day to reach Hardrada

[@scifiakiraguy]

Hello Mat! Love your work. I must have missed this Game of Thrones Theory, but I saw the other ones. Any comment on how the increased proportions of the humans of Westeros (as mentioned in this theory) would impact your calculations regarding Tyrion and Cersei Lannister's alcohol consumption? I guess with increased liver tissue and an increased metabolism, they would be able to handle the amount they are seen drinking in the show. Or would it still be impossible?

[@tedbriscoe4100]

Good theory but if they are twice as tall then the episode on who is the most drunk in game of will mean that they are only half as drunk as you said they were

[@Gameorama91]

True. Such is the nature of theories. They are all possibilities, but are not 100% and some may cancel each other out.

[@tedbriscoe4100]

Good point Gameorama91

[@SapphireBones]

Well hold on. In that episode, he mentioned how Tyrion would've died in real life if he drinks as much as he does, right? So this theory even makes that theory make more sense. The reason he isn't dying is because he's twice as tall as we thought he was.

[@Saizares]

Well, if they would be twice the size (I don't think that's the truth) and the glass of wine looked normal, that would mean that the glass of wine is twice as big as well, therefore not making any difference at all.

[@Rastley85]

The cups of wine would be proportionately bigger = 2x as much wine

[@HORRIOR1]

10:49 WATDAFUQ!?!!!? HOW IS 80 FEET OVER A HUNDRED KILOMETERS?! That shit should be like 26 - 27 meters!

[@alex-rs6ts]

This theory makes the Sans is Ness thing seem reasonable

[@hellothere4023]

Every episode is gonna be 2 hours long like a movie

[@krembo1077]

please stop addressing GRRM. he no longer writes the show. If you are theorizing about the show please address D&D. The books don't have any of these inconsistencies. These are created by D&D and they are to blame.

[@tudoproductions]

Was just about to write this comment. Its so annoying people actually think GRRM actually wrote this shit season.

[@legit934]

krembo I don't see why people see this as a problem. Like they used to have to plot of the books and now they have the plot GRRM told them. What's the difference it's still the same source of plot and same writers

[@androzin]

They stopped going off the books in season 6 plus the show skipped out on a lot of things that were in the books. Even GRRM doesn't watch GoT because he doesn't like what they did with it. The show writers are giving people plot armor and its just silly how they are fast forwarding the show to meet their deadline in season 8.

[@legit934]

Andaroo I feel like the faster pace is natural for the end of a show. This is the climax so most of it will be plot driven similar to the last Harry Potter. I feel like if GRRM were to haven already written the last books and it was same plot. No one would be complaining about the show if they didn't know GRRM hadn't written the books

[@krembo1077]

legit934 I wasn't complaining about the show. just complaining about the misconception that GRRM writes the show. currently he doesn't, and doesn't even watch the show anymore. there's no reason to blame him when he has nothing to do with the show anymore

[@Gamewizdar]

Doesn't it make more sense to think the opposite of what Mat Pat said, that their measurements are actually different rather than the people?

[@theonlyonce5511]

Thank you. i was thinking the exact same.

[@linka711]

or just their concept of a fortnight, maybe fortnight = a month, or 2 months

[@DirtyPoul]

linka711 That would work, but it would make no sense. Fortnight is derived from fēowertyne niht, meaning fourteen nights. It wouldn't really make sense to call something a fortnight if it's not 14 nights.

[@linka711]

well, remember it is easier to change the meaning of a word than the whole measurement system, laws of physics (if everything has twice the volume, it has 4 times the weight and so gravity must be much weaker, which makes the planet lose its atmosphere way faster, like mars)

[@renatoramos8834]

Or a coming, like the many times we heard winter was.

[@shayne2955]

i rewatched this and completely forgot about how shocking the theory is

[@2caiden4u]

Strip episode, Stephanie walks in. “Mat, what is that?”

[@lovelily.799]

I feel that Matt just quickly put some shitty theory together because the season finale was right around the corner. Shame. Shame. Shame.

[@neothepenguin1257]

Portal Turtle that's awfully rude... he puts a lot of work into these

[@lovelily.799]

sure he did....

[@727silentkiller727]

Amian Ignatius matt killed hitler?

[@Ball4184]

SHAME SHAME SHAAAAAAAAME SHAME ON YOU OOO SHAME SHAME SHAAAAAAAAME SHAME ON YEW HEEEW

[@colesnead4061]

Portal Turtle dude the theory is sh*ty because game of thrones is sh*ty (YES I SAID IT)

[@andypwned112]

80ft= 128.74km tall??

[@Wilderwolfman]

we all know he rushes this videos cause he stretches himself over too many channels and projects. Whats funny is at first i was like oh he meant meters but then i was like oh size of the Wall not the castle wall and then i was like wait whattttttt!!?!?!?!? then i was like oh he mistook mile for feet 79.99 miles = 128.74km (he forgot to change the one of the conversions in google lol)

[@Wilderwolfman]

also 39 ft 62km what the fuccccckkkkk

[@StoneTitan]

Yeah I thought he might have made a slip up the first time, but for him to have typed it in twice is actually disturbing. for a person claiming to be a man of science/logic to not be familiar enough with the metric system to realize this is rather shocking imo. It's not like he's converting it into an exotic measurement

[@StoneTitan]

yes a typo is possible, but he'd have had to have made the typo several times for this one, which is the disturbing part, errors happen and more often when things get rushed. Had he just had the km sign for winterfell it would have been 2 times reading it wrong for him to have typed it in wrong for the real world castle as well means he 4 times at minimum didn't notice the error... This is what distubs me that he rushed it this much and he's that unfamiliar with km for this to even happen. Still he makes greater work on these videos than I could ever do so i'll from time to time keep stumbling over enjoyable videos from him. This one though had to many errors imo.

[@rorygirdler2797]

I like how you used the dire wolf from ark

[@tamimnorani]

I’ve seen the mountain irl he came to our school advertising his parfum

[@RightWingRadioShow]

Dude, the director came out and STATED they were straining plausibility. Then he said he doesn't care because they have enough viewers anyway.

[@annedavis3340]

Right Wing Radio you gotta love his classic "the great thing about modern tv is if you don't like it you can watch something else" defense Benioff throws at anyone who tries asking him even respectful questions.

[@SicknessOnCan]

"What a cunt". As the Hound would say..

[@mateomagnus8482]

He also said quit "winge-ing" or some shit

[@APGames13]

Well, when the fanbase consists of so many idiots, can you really be that surprised by it?

[@brandonjoubert6615]

show me the proof

[@rashed434]

Oh my god every time you mention GRRM you make me more angry. THEY'RE OFF BOOKS NOW HE ONLY TOLD THEM ABOUT THE MAJOR PLOT POINTS.

[@MasterPoppers]

+Ahmed 7 Yeah, I HIGHLY doubt we will get anything like this atrocity in the books. We may get an ice dragon. That's not out of the realm of possibility, but it would in no way happen because of this illogical bullshit.

[@mikeirrelevant668]

Except martin was on set to check thing for many episodes and directed many of them as well so unless he randomly stopped doing that in season 6 or 7......

[@MasterPoppers]

+Mike Irrelevant But he DID stop doing that. Martin left after Season 4 to spend more time focusing on his books and reveling in his success. The last episode he wrote was The Lion and the Rose. As an aside, he NEVER directed an episode. He wrote four. Please, check your facts before commenting.

[@DeadKraken]

Yeah, he told the two writers\directors the major plot points(probably to see if fans like them, and in case they don't, change them in the future books) but were the two writers that connected them. He supervised the script of the show until season 4, and left the wrters on their own since season 5. Now, I don't know how much comes from D&D and how much from GRRM, but some things on season 7(like the e-mail speed ravens, the whole "let's bring this ice zombie to Kingslanding!11!!!!1", and the Little Finger "double-cross the doublecrosser lol w the north!11!" thing) look so idiotic, that I really hope that weren't GRRM's ideas...........

[@michaelhibbert1613]

Yeah for someone who does so much research I’m suprised he didn’t figure this out

[@rrc309]

Everyone in the north: Winter is coming... (Multiple years pass) Everyone: winter is here freaking finally been waiting for years

[@sceptray736]

11:19 but in the book it says the mountain is 8" tall.