Film Theory: Rick KILLED Beth! (Rick and Morty Season 5)

[@ElGringitoGabriel]

This theory explains both why Rick hates himself, other versions of himself, and the origins of simple Rick

[@marwan4358]

@Oreo Chaos Come home to simple Rick...

[@Leave-me-alone]

It does..

[@Onlyafool172]

I think he would like sympanthize with simple rick ngl

[@andrewjames7438]

What about fly fishing Rick. Does he hate him?

[@LZ2ME]

He IS Simple Rick, or rather could have been. It’s cruel-Ricks sell the fantasy of a life with Beth and Diane, but the second a Rick chooses that life, they’re killed.

[@Kth77]

It also adds a bit of an interesting wrinkle to Rick's "there's infinite universes, nothing matters" attitude. While the Ricks that abandon their families just genuinely believe this, our Rick may be constantly telling himself this to to convince himself because he knows he got his original Beth killed.

[@pipisxipies]

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[@marwan4358]

Are you a Morty, because you said "to" twice 😆

[@cartooncottage2024]

Yeah. Even though it's not really his fault, either. I mean, he made a choice that led to their death, but he wasn't the one who directly killed them. Sadly he's forced to blame himself for actually wanting to be selfless for the sake of his family. Yet you can tell that he does love his family deep down even though they aren't from his dimension. Ouch!😔😰

[@rx-7893]

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[@brandonfry4698]

I've been waiting for this episode. This also makes the episode with toxic Rick make more sense too. C-137 Rick would think that what is toxic of himself is his love, because that is what killed his wife and Beth. Can't wait until the season finale! So much lore!

[@pipisxipies]

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[@luigijackson6252]

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[@supersaxyguy]

You need to analyze that footage of baby Morty now that this has come to light

[@Gamer_G33k]

@@supersaxyguy This could also just mean that he could have integrated in to a Beths life sooner than that, many times infact maybe. Maybe he's gotten too many Beth, Morty, and Summers killed over the years because of his love for them, which is why he subconsciously pushes them away.

[@mistadomino]

Really good point!

[@jtyler9130]

The thing about this that makes it even more punch to to the gut, is that if Rick decided to abandon his family, he then came back and got to experience being a grandfather and takin his kids on all these adventures and basically abandoning them was all forgiven...so the Rick that chose not to abandon his family had them killed but had to see the life he could have had. No wonder he hates all other Ricks. They chose to abandon their families but still got to be apart of their lives

[@Buntod]

I like how matpat said “OnLy 90’S kIdS wIlL rEmEmBeR” after singing all star so confidently acting like shrek isn’t a monster if a meme that has that song engrained in our minds

[@lfkkkfk862]

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[@jaydenklaus]

Same! My first thought was, "No Mat, anyone who has every seen Shrek and/or any of the memes will know it."

[@skhshsos]

i literally edited the shrek meme in the vid i dropped yesterday lol

[@bizzlemip]

@FandomKween13❎ no not really

[@michii_lechii]

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[@saeidanvar-adamantfilmstud7646]

When Rick tells morty “choose science not love” it hits harder now cause Rick knows if only he would have picked science his wife and Beth would still be alive

[@btsxdreamxspongebobfanfict1796]

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[@saeidanvar-adamantfilmstud7646]

@@btsxdreamxspongebobfanfict1796 ok

[@saeidanvar-adamantfilmstud7646]

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[@alexanderwatt8843]

This would mean Evil Morty isn’t Rick’s “original” Morty either because if his Beth died there would be no Morty.

[@TICTAC1]

Oh my god your right....but then why does evil morty have a murder boner for current rick

[@zmandemon3]

@@TICTAC1 I think its because this rick is the rickiest rick and evil morty is the rickiest morty.

[@SSgamer69]

@@zmandemon3 you mean the mortiest Morty.

[@TICTAC1]

@@zmandemon3 or maybe evil morty is what happens when our morty finds out the truth about rick...the show avoids any of the main characters time traveling like the plague maybe its because our current morty is evil morty from the future

[@zmandemon3]

@@SSgamer69 That wouldnt make much sense as Morty's tend to be wimpy.

[@GippyHappy]

I've always chosen to believe the "completely fabricated origin story" was true, and as a result found it genuinely heartbreaking that Rick is constantly dumped on for abandoning his family even though he didn't. He could easily tell Beth that he isn't the Rick that left her. At this point she knows about the nature of Ricks existing across multiple dimensions and all that wacky science nonsense. But instead he accepts the blame for something another Rick did, almost as if he thinks he deserves it. Like he _wants_ to be punished, either because he hates that any version of himself was capable of doing that or because of his guilt at unintentionally getting his family killed. That's rough, buddy.

[@WithScienceAsMySheperd]

this is why everyoen should watch COMMUNITY...tv show by Dan Harmon, it could be important! No spoilers. Season 3 ends in a major turning point.

[@flapjackssyrup3905]

If you pay attention to what Rick says it doesn’t matter who’s Rick did what. They’re all the same person doing the same things at the same time but from different universes. Half the Ricks abandoned the family and the other half killed the family. In both ways Rick abandoned his family even if Rick didn’t do it directly to his own universe family. They all bare the same consequences of their actions. If you pay attention to the time travel stuff in the garage you have to imagine the same thing happened to Rick that happened to the Snake Planet. Nothing he did worked because as soon as he got an idea all of the other Ricks got the same idea. That’s why he’s depressed, that’s why nothing matters; he’s stuck in his own prison.

[@soupiebongo]

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[@batmanbeyond6815]

Would the the fact that Rick loved his original family having killed them also explain why Rick views his empathy as toxic in Rest and Ricklaxation?

[@GubbiGap]

That would make a lot of sense!

[@swank2035]

To add onto this, it’s also interesting how the Rickest Rick chose to stay with his family in the beginning

[@LuffyLuffLuff]

youre a genius

[@jamescox1799]

also his "irrational attachment " to morty, the grandson that never even existed in his own timeline

[@seansheep5973]

The agent says this was you and her between 9/11 and favourite sports blooper, shows the portal and his family standing next to the portal. Thus his family death came from a portal failure

[@sigma_azn]

After the S5 finale, this makes a lot of sense, the whole “either you’re a Rick that chose science or a Rick that chose family.” C-137 Rick is the Rickest Rick because he chose both science and family, if you want to look at it that way. I’d like to think that all the Ricks in the current multiverse are the ones that chose science, hence why C-137 is distinctly different (because he initially chose family). I guess that’s also why so far, we haven’t been in any universe where Beth (or the rest of the family) doesn’t exist because she’s already dead Evil Morty is probably now in the other half of the multiverses where Rick chose family, therefore no science or power and ultimately no Mortys. No Mortys = no suffering, which is what Evil Morty wanted?

[@sigma_azn]

...or you can take it a step further, Evil Morty is now in Dimension C-137 itself

[@matthewvandeventer3632]

@@sigma_azn Rick didn't invent the central finite curve to isolate the universes where he's the most intelligent, he did it to protect the isolated universes from Ricks that chose family.

[@cherrycoke4465]

@@matthewvandeventer3632 I think he did it so that he could trap the Rick that killed Beth and Diane from escaping to one of infinite universes

[@holy_crusaderoftheholyland4713]

Eh still did not really age well

[@holy_crusaderoftheholyland4713]

@@matthewvandeventer3632 I doubt that because in rick back story it shows other ricks before him going though other universes so my head cannon is way before our rick was "born" there were other ricks before him had a plan to make the multiple universes and spit then into two where every rick is in one side and the rest is on the other side and so my question is where are the ricks who spit the multiple universes up? That's the big question.

[@dayschange2]

Interestingly enough, this means that Evil Morty can't be Rick's original Morty---at least, not in the sense that he's Rick's actual grandson. I suppose that he could have been Rick's first assigned Morty though.

[@trustsfundbaby7344]

So from everything we know we can deduce that evil morty is the baby morty we see in ricks memories. We know rick was already involved in another smith family's lives due to him having past memories of morty being a baby. Rick did not return to the current smith family until morty was his current age. This means rick must have done something that kills the entire previous smith family. Except morty who he either abandons or believes died. If morty didnt die, then ricks tells morty he doesnt care about him, he cares about beth and finds a new one. "If we know one thing is true, it is that ricks don't care about morty's." If he thought morty died he still goes to find a new family, but I think it is the former. Rick currently cannot survive without beth. Morty is just bringing revenge for killing his family.

[@BurritooMafia]

Yeah we have to remember that flashback from way back of him holding a baby morty. The TV show morty is def his second Morty for sure

[@harrisont2004]

Yeah definitely, as in the first Morty he adventured with.

[@sundayok2307]

Bro i wish i could be smart all i can do is agree with theorys that i never would have come up with myself

[@thebr0wnw0lff29]

Rick cant have an assigned morty, he was never part of the citadel or the councel and those are the ricks assigning mortys to ricks

[@daily_snow918]

I’d like to see a new episode talking about the future for season 6, while touching on the events in the season finale.

[@coolsHusk]

Yeah I'm thinking the exact same thing, I was waiting for matpat to do that after watching the season finale

[@toastedbun9672]

This also does semi-explain that one rant Rick gave to Morty during Rick Potion where he goes "Break the cycle, Morty. Rise above. Focus on Science." as a bit of a projection of his own guilt. As well as fueling his toxic complex of pushing those he loves away as a way to protect them from the knowledge and danger he poses.

[@pipisxipies]

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[@CreamCakes420]

That's a good idea

[@kendro1200]

One thing to note is that the “dead beat” Ricks, who probably made up the majority of the Citadel of Rick, held hostage a “Simple Rick” and used him to flavor candy bars with memories of giving up science to live with his family. This gives credence to the concept that many Ricks have little respect for a Rick that does not choose the path of science godhood, but also that there is a non-zero chance that Rick could choose his family over science if left alone.

[@PsychoIncarnate666]

But there would have to be an original rick that chooses science over his family to start the cascade of citadel ricks in the first place

[@kendallspeaks6869]

I wouldn’t go as far as to say a non-zero. It’s definitely more of a 50/50 if not 30/70 chance that rick would choose his family over science

[@J99___]

@@kendallspeaks6869 I mean it depends on the Rick. As c137 said “I guess I’m just a different kind of rick”. When your infinite selves are around I think they slowly stop becoming your other selves and moreso seem like other people because their choices can be so different resulting in them being so different. It would feel like talking to a twin sibling rather than an alternate self. I feel c137 Rick doesn’t have the same personality as a citadel Rick for example. So c137 is simply a Rick who just felt more love for his family for one reason or another. Not all ricks have that and that’s why some abandon the family to explore the infinite world of science full time

[@ahhhhhh124]

I think he was a Rick that managed to save his family but still ended up kidnapped

[@khalifazizb6121]

I just want to add that Memory Rick's statement doesnt HAVE to imply that Dead Beths and Abandoned Beths are the only Beths, just that they're the only ones that a Rick can RELIABLY move in with. There can be infinite Beths that grew into adulthood having a perfectly happy relationship with Rick. And in some of those dimensions, the Ricks could have died. But there lies the tricky part. Any Beth with a dead Rick that actually raised her would be resistive to an alternate Rick trying to take his place. Can't try tricking them, because they knew Rick and likely traveled with him so they'll be able to suss out an imposter and would likely assume the worst intentions of them. For all we know, happy Beths that grew up with their Ricks can be just as common, but the other Ricks just don't consider them because they legitimately can't. The odds of finding a happy Beth with a dead Rick that's willing to take in any random alternate Rick is just too low.

[@MbitaChizi]

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[@racool911]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@aime7311]

Good theory

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

Good point

[@mandalor6107]

SUS OUT AN IMPOSTER my mansss

[@SnuffBee]

When I saw beth serving lemonade to all those federation Ricks it really solidified I realize she wouldn't care even if that wasn't her original Rick who abandoned her. It all comes together

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

I think it's really nice that Rick decided to fill the role of another Rick in another dimension, but you gotta admit that the whole Rick and Morty timeline is pretty trippy fo sure.

[@biruz117]

Go away

[@AryeshChaudhary]

grow a mustache already

[@Jamal_Republic_Official]

Your hear huh i guess you like to speak out and I think your a extrovert.

[@darthmic7301]

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[@mmasri5587]

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[@Kelton_is_a_cutie]

This is a really good theory and this also explains why “our rick” hates the Citadel of Ricks

[@Hasadrajak]

"Because ricks hate themself, and rick is the most himself"-morty

[@theawesomeking5513]

@@Hasadrajak deep

[@LiamRStafford]

SPOILER Whoa, turns out MatPat was 100% spot on with this one. Season finale was absolutely mind blowing, and the reveal was every bit as awesome as we could have hoped!

[@ramonemoore8395]

A masterpiece

[@vince1987]

I can just imagine the SmugPat making his victory dance after the season finale aired.

[@ramonemoore8395]

@@vince1987 mannn😂

[@x_MoonlitShade]

I was genuinely very surprised they basically showed us his life in chronological order. I expected that they would never fully tell the truth. But I'm still very, very skeptical. They could pull a season 3. When Rick said it's a fully "brain download" of himself, that doesn't mean it's actually real. It could be a pre-prepareed fake story as a final contingency plan to show Morty if ever needed. If anything, that makes even more sense. Why would Rick just carry around a real full brain download, instead of a fake on?

[@toriangel4469]

I know omg my mind was blown I hope that make more 😌

[@AlliyahMarco]

11:16 This explains that why rick cried when robotic rick shows him picking up morty when morty was a baby If beth in his dimension hadn't died he could've have a grandson (and granddaughter)

[@matthewvandeventer3632]

Awe man, Rick didn't invent the central finite curve to isolate the universes where he's the most intelligent, he did it to protect the isolated universes from himself. He did it to protect his wife and daughter.

[@jonathanmorneau7526]

Aww geez

[@nimbus788]

So that means probably in season 6 we are gonna see the Smith family meeting all the other Ricks living with dianes and beths but since he chose family In that he wouldn't be as smart

[@mrjman006]

I was just going to post something similar when I saw this! Since there's infinite universes and the central finite curve that seems to have smart Ricks and abandoned Beth's on one side, that must mean there are not abandoned Beth's on the other side. At the same time you would think the word infinite would imply that there is at least one universe on this side of the curve that has a smart Rick and a not Abandoned Beth that is alive?

[@Jirodyne]

Your wrong. Watch the episode again. They go out to the Multiverse, find a Rick that is the Smartest in the universe, and connect that to the Curve. But what if, instead of just finding Natural universes, they MAKE those Universe? The original C-137 Rick we follow, what if the Council of Rick saw he wasn't the smartest but he wasn't quite there yet. So went to offer him the portal to join the Curve. When he Refused, they FORCED his Universe into the Curve, by destroying his wife and Kids, forcing him to be the smartest man, and thus stole his Universe and added it to the Curve. After all, we see that they DO steal Universes from the outside and add them to the Curve. But we don't see how they select those universes, and if those universes are taken willingly, or forcefully. This is most likely a Tragic Story of the Council wanting to steal his universe to add to the Curve for some reason. Maybe because he truly was the smartest one they have ever encountered in the entire multiverse they have explored. And so wanted to take his universe, but he refused and gave up on Science. And so they had to FORCE the issue, and killed his wife and child as motivation to take both his world, and him, into the curve.

[@jameshamby3829]

@@Jirodyne wait, but Rick C-137 helped design the Citadel. The central finite curve hadn't been invented yet at the time his family was killed.

[@bennettam.9330]

The more Rick and Morty theories Matthew makes, the more the producers want new episodes.

[@lfkkkfk862]

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[@michii_lechii]

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[@whatthewhatthe9117]

This reply section is cancerous

[@PashaVerti]

The longer the Icon of Sin stays on Earth, the stronger he becomes!

[@hadjstudio]

@@whatthewhatthe9117 yea I had a stroke

[@jamesmichaels4979]

Im shocked ro learn that people genuinely thought the line "You live with a version of our dead daughter." Meant clones and not a beth from a different dimension.

[@adamthegreat605]

Fr I figured it meant a version where she got to grow up lol

[@magnemattix]

The Flashback Rick calls our Rick “one of those creeps that moves in with an adult abandoned Beth.” So does that mean our Rick isn’t the only one dimension hopping looking to move into a new family?

[@pipisxipies]

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[@issymex2474]

Well technically there is an infinte amount of those ricks

[@looof3719]

The episode where they sent a virus to the whole world turning them into monsters n had to abandon that planet to live new lives yes. There you can see a version of Rick n Morty that only got mutated in their world that moves in that one. Does that count???

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen6914]

Well matpat basically said that in the episode at 9:15

[@IYPITWL]

@@issymex2474 some infinities are bigger than other. Infinite numbers btwn 1-2 but all positive numbers is a bigger infinity...

[@Rozurigokas]

It is noteworthy that, when Rick goes on a rant with Morty about love, he says: "what people calls 'love' is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed ... Break the cycle, Morty. Rise above. Focus on science". As if "love" and "science" where mutually exclusive. When he could not focus on love (his wife and daughter), he dedicated his life to science.

[@sockmonkey062]

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[@that_one_kid6605]

I agree but explain the episode ‘The ABC’s of Beth’ where he shows all the items he made for her as a child. Meaning he clearly was around for her childhood unless I’m missing something.

[@jmmaribong4350]

@@that_one_kid6605 probably the items from the rick in that world that our rick stay with

[@LilBrooks70]

@@jmmaribong4350 but that beth dies very early in her life although the may have been time to make those things

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

That idea is Bullcrap too? It ignores how you can feel love for people without actually being attracted to them.

[@117Jorn]

I mean he wasn't ENTIRELY off the mark this time... hope he does a theory about the finale.

[@slevinchannel7589]

I've seen the newest Episode and i wanna say: 'Evil' is a funny word to use for Evil Morty. I mean, anyone here who remembers the End-Boss of the Show 'Supernatural'? If i remember correctly, this Morty-Breeding-Machine and the End-Bosses Obsession with a certain 2 Brothers is very, very, very similar. Entertainment-Obsession or Grandson-Obsession: Seems pretty similar to Me.

[@hinamatsuro1908]

@@slevinchannel7589 the show never even called him evil morty the fan base did

[@oykuulubas4519]

@@hinamatsuro1908 no actually Rick refers to that Morty as evil Morty

[@kieranworkk7129]

@@hinamatsuro1908 And in the end credits of the finale, Mr. Poopybutthole calls him evil morty.

[@THE_AceOfSarcasm]

@@hinamatsuro1908 Evil Morty even refers to HIMSELF as an evil Morty, saying our Morty is an Evil Morty now, too, for once being tired of Rick, and showing distrust in Rick by asking if Rick only came back because the crows dumped him.

[@vakahemaloto-ali1418]

After watching s6 e1 and rewatching this I love how right mat is, and how he doesn't know (or how oh so right he is) about our Rick's original Beth and Diane are dead and how he is without a doubt the rickiest Rick.

[@Wolverine_Santano]

Yeah, the latest episode is confirmation of this theory further supported by the fact that he created a simulation to torture himself over their losses. It was also revealed that Prime Rick was responsible for the death of his family; the Rick we follow throughout the show lost his family in a similar manner compared to the theory.

[@finn1196]

I just don't understand why this is a theory and why everyone is so surprised that st6 ep 1 confirms it. In the finale of this season (St5 Ep10) you can see the downloaded memories of Rick, so huh?

[@me-myself-i787]

​@@finn1196The season finale came out after this video.

[@lostlegend2197]

I feel like most people overlook the fact that young Rick is a compiled memory of Rick by Birdperson (as evident with the portal gun) so it could be easily said that our Rick told Birdperson that Diane story and that's why young memory Rick explains it as so and Rick knows that as well and chooses to ignore it cause he's told that story over and over again.

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[@michii_lechii]

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[@MisterHaziq]

Good point!

[@AinsleySunny]

I got nothing from that but ok

[@SoulSilver.]

@@AinsleySunny memory Rick only knows what bird person knows, so if real Rick told him a lie that Beth died, memory Rick would believe it too

[@aidan.armstrong]

This literally changes the entire show. Now I want to rewatch it all from this perspective. Definitely brings new meaning to the scenes where rick does something for his family out of love, like when he kills King Jellybean in Meeseeks and Destroy

[@johnbob5137]

and not only that it explains why he is always so guarded when it comes to loving your family It scarred him for life especially when he found out that each and every rick had to go through what he did and that the citadel ricks probly killed off the ricks that had the privilege to choose both science and love. It also explains why he has an intense hatred for the members of the board of the citadel.

[@swerzye4472]

This new episode was insane. It also confirmed a lot of the thoughts that I had on how the multiverse works If there are a truly infinite amount of multiverses, that means that there infinite variations of “the smartest man in the universe”. And this also applies to people outside of the smith family. In some other multiverses with a separate finite curve, the Smith’s family neighbor (Jean) is the smartest man in the universe. In another multiverse, JESSICA is the smartest being in the universe. There are even universes and multiverses where everyone is dumb, and multiverses and universes where everyone is smart, along with multiverses and universes where no one AT ALL was smart enough to invent portal technology.

[@wisniamw]

@@johnbob5137 but it was C-137 who build citadel after being pleased by other Ricks. At least that's how I understood last episode.

[@BobbinRobbin777]

@@swerzye4472 evil morty might have originated from one of those universes.

[@dale117]

This whole thing makes sense when you recall how much disdain Rick has for the Council of Ricks, always refusing to join them.

[@worldofretrogameplay6963]

This theory was confirmed last Sunday during S6 E1 of Rick & Morty.Excellent job, sir!

[@finn1196]

Hasn't it already been "confirmed" in this season(5)?! In the season finale, you can see Rick's memories of it.

[@baddiemcbadbad9231]

Evil Morty & Rick theory: This would explain, though depressing, why Rick is so introverted and is a hard drunk as well as the origin story for evil Morty. Matt says it himself, "Does he choose Family, or does he choose Science?" In this case, Rick first chose family and then lost his wife and daughter. But then he does it again! After the death of his wife and child, Rick finds a new dimension in which his family lives. He continues to love and help raise his grandchildren. Rick gains the trust of his new family and at some point, because Rick chose Family again, ends up killing his family. I think Rick doesn't know evil Morty exists, that he thinks he had actually killed him with the rest of his family. But Evil Morty remembers. He remembers what happened and he swore a vengeance upon all Ricks. Now Rick is battling his inner demons, he finally realizes that these situations are because of him. He has killed two families (minimum) and now he has a new family. He wants to love this new family, but he's scared it will end in disaster as it always has and always will. To Rick, It appears that there is only one option, and it's an option of pain which can only be soothed by alcohol. Rick can either love and care for his family but it gets destroyed OR Rick can focus on science; watching his family grow but never being a part of it lest he destroys that one too. The only time Rick really spends time with his family is when he's on adventures with them. Not only does Morty camouflage our Rick, No, our Rick brings him around because he loves Morty and he uses the "morty waves" as an excuse to be with him. Rick keeps them as close as he possibly can, walking on that thin line of science and family; longing for them all the while he is sitting right next to them. Truly devastating My theory is supported even more by the fact that Rick destroyed the council of Rick's. Perhaps he killed them all in hopes that he can actually love his family again without them interfering. Morty has become more and more frustrated with Rick as the show develops. I think I know why. Because of his love for this Morty after a million adventures including the Cronenberg incident, Rick continues to not show any kind of affection to Morty as some means of protecting him because he doesn't want him to die. Rick is now at the point that he's scared to choose family, because he's scared to lose it.

[@dipinbhattarai5304]

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[@For_Fun.537]

When you say “he killed his family” does the time when he tried to make morty a love potion but it backfired and he left jerry, Beth and summer to rot count? Yes they survived but the cidadel of ricks froze and possibly killed them because of it.

[@weliveinasociety8660]

probably the best theory going tbh, it's annoying only people with ticks get likes. u deserve way more!!

[@For_Fun.537]

@@prakharsrivastava4951 oooh alright yeh makes sense

[@ainz2579]

So ricks doesnt keep morties bcuz of of thier dimb waves?

[@DeadDancers]

If Morty could accept a whole new family, I can’t see him caring that Rick was an alternate timeline version of his Grandfather.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

Ok, but i do not like the Notion that you have to choose between Family and Science. You can have both.

[@nympseudonym]

It's worth noting, that every “adult abandoned Beth” we've seen in the show never mentions or shows awareness of Diane. I think any reality where Rick would leave (thus creating a place for a 'rehomed' Rick) probably lacks Diane in some way. Which suggests that it isn't Beth that's the fulcrum of Ricks arc, but Diane.

[@ahmedabow2333]

That would actually make sense coz you could explain it off as most ricks seeing just Beth as not enough but if they had Diane they could’ve been satisfied with not leaving

[@Ilivepuppys]

I think Diana prolly died before the start of the show, yeah Beth doesn't mention her but I think she does say something about her Mum to Rick and some point I remember her saying the words Mum before.

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[@minnumseerrund]

Rick did create Clone Beth with memoires of Diane. But Bird Person's memories of Rick's revenge rampage seem to only mention a single person - "Killing us wont bring *her* back." So ya, verw intarestang

[@ngngng2538]

i vaguely remember an episode where Beth makes food for the family and Rick makes a comment to the effect of: [compliments Beth's cooking] "Your mother would be so proud."

[@iloveplasticbottles]

Coming from the future: Morty found out Rick isn't his Rick and took it well.

[@NightmareKing0203]

Rick and Morty 100 years.

[@moxxiedemongamer3019]

the more Theories on Rick and Morty the More chances the writers will give us More episodes of Rick and Morty please Adult Swim keep this show Alive!

[@pipisxipies]

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[@ditoo2002]

I'm pretty sure Rick and morty have been confirmed for like 3-4 more seasons

[@mcmastermomoforeal6112]

We’ve got at least 5 more seasons no matter what.

[@dichosonaljon5273]

i forgot.what episode.rick shouted to morty they got 9 seasons

[@demigreen6495]

100 YEARS RICK AND MORTY!!

[@arandomweeb1890]

Rick having parents was probably the biggest lore drop in this season

[@lfkkkfk862]

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[@mrscribbles2693]

He’s mentioned he had a father in the unity episode

[@sierra2441]

Anime yes

[@SnoopyMay1]

I hope mat pins your comment

[@terrorbillywilly7918]

What's next; we find out that Rick runs on alcohol ?!?

[@1234567890rom]

This theory hinges on the fact that Rick told bird person his actual back story. It could be all bunk if Rick has had a long time fake backstory that he tells everyone.

[@Lego_Bespin_Guard]

Rick defended himself moving in with abandoned Beths instead of denying it so it seems factual.

[@RB-ic4du]

It would certainly be in character for Rick to lie, or even forgetting because of all the drugs/booze. The theory is helped somewhat by the fact that Rick is spending so much time drinking and doing drugs while trying to "party": the amount of guilt he is feeling over the death of Beth requires him to go find a positive emotion or suffer from a crippling depression.

[@AnarchyPenguin]

I think that the fact that he was doing all this for bird person in the first place, along with the way that battle ended and how it hurt Rick, means that he did genuinely care about and show his real self to bird person. And I think that’s also part of why bird person’s response hurt him so much.

[@jayb8934]

But he didn't deny it when Memory Rick called him out. He got defensive.

[@thorveim1174]

@@jayb8934 Thats the one.. if memory rick was wrong, you bet he would have jabbed at that with "if you were the real me, you'd know better" or something to that effect

[@AndroidAquaponicsTech]

Even rick doesn't know whether Beth went to space or actually stayed at home, so it's hard to say that Space Beth was the clone. We can theorize that Space Beth was the clone, but that would only be a theory.

[@jacksongibbs8998]

It’s interesting that the Rickest Rick initially chose his family over science and that the consequences of that decision are what led him to becoming the Rickest Rick.

[@nickcorey2535]

I was just thinking that. That makes him a truer Rick because he did the right thing he chose family. It’s why he hates the Citadel of Ricks. It makes so much sense. I love how rounded out this theory makes the show.

[@CoffeeThrills]

I really hope the Rickest Rick meeting with the Dianest Diane in season 6... Oh God! I really want this to happen!!!!

[@the10fold11]

in the “ABC’s of Beth” Rick also says “When you know nothing matters, the universe is yours”

[@BPgamemaster12]

You know, since Mr. Nimbus was aware of Diane, it's sounds like Rick must have been doing crazy adventures even before working out Portal technology and maybe she was a part of some of them.

[@ShroomSage]

This also explains why he's the only one who seems to actually care about his Morty and doesn't treat him as expendable like others do

[@TheGreatFryMaster]

I think this is a good reason why rick treats everyone like garbage, especially morty. He wants morty to stay because he knows what its like being alone, and he believes that if he treated people like he loved them, they might die too. This also shows why rick shows signs of fear/saddness when morty wants to leave.

[@jgr7487]

it was pretty much canon to parts of the fandom already that our Rick might be from C-137, but our Morty certainly isn't.

[@pipisxipies]

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[@ExpanSV]

I guess with Rick being the odd one going back to live with adult beth would also explain why although there seems to be alot of Rick and Morty pairs in the citadel, there isn't an "unlimited" amount like there would be if it were common to happen in every single dimension

[@9nikola]

Hasn't most of this been predicted since season 1 episode 10 when "Evil Rick" showed us one of Rick's memories of holding (and crying over) a toddler Morty?

[@pipisxipies]

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[@majorasmask_8288]

no, cause whatr that memory showed us was "Ok Rick actually knew baby morty, but in our dimension rick abandoned beth so how could he know baby morty? The answer is : Baby morty is Evil Morty". The death beth thing never showed up actually

[@ryleebenson8231]

@@majorasmask_8288 yeah

[@ryleebenson8231]

@@majorasmask_8288 but no

[@isobel_mary]

I think Beth must have died later in life, after she had Morty, that Rick met????

[@ketchupluvsu]

but we're all overlooking 1 thing- Why does Rick need Morty to come along with him on adventures? He's been doing it alone for years, why does he need someone now? In S4 E1 he is forced to ask Morty to come with him to get death crystals instead of just taking him. Why does he need Morty? Sorry if this is a stupid question, I just wanna know-

[@amparomontesino7298]

Morty being a “moron” is like a sheild to ricks makes it harder to find a rick the more mortys u have that are in pain nd tortured the more you are like an invisible blip

[@amparomontesino7298]

He doesnt need morty . Morty is a moronic sheild

[@Darkstar1484]

It's possible that the morty wave concept is real, it might also be that Rick needs morty more psychologically, IE he needs his grandson, he needs some form of tether.

[@RustyNips]

The difference is when he didnt have morty he was actively hunting Ricks and he probably at the time wasnt a wanted rick killer but now he is so he uses morty as a shield to hide from ricks

[@RoseDemongametoday]

True but he also had Birdperson, Squanch and the rest of the crew to keep him tethered. And regarding the pattern masking in Morty, when he was out actively hunting the only ones that would have had reasons to find him would have been the ones who killed his family. Meaning instead of him just going for them, they would possibly come to him for an easier time at getting vengeance. But at the same lines of infinite timelines, then he wouldn't be the only Rick being manhunted either.

[@thevideo-beast122]

I'm half-an'-half about Rick's fake memory being his real backstory. Yes, I think the stuff in the fake memory did happen, but not in the EXACT same way as depicted. At a bare minimum, I think Rick played himself up as a more loving husband/father than he actually was, both to deceive the agent and to stroke his ego.

[@squidbro6635]

Exactly. There's a reason the phrase, "All lies are based on truth" exist. Most likely he picked key elements then exaggerated to make a sob story. Probably was a DECENT father who was propositioned by another Rick and declined. Then his family dies, unrelated to the Rick proposition, and that pushes him over the edge.

[@rnovah_757]

Holy moly it's crazy to watch this video right after the release of season six and to realize how the end of your video was god tier theorizing!

[@georges2842]

Here's a theory for you: The reason Rick is so against time travel is because he tried to use it to save his Beth and Diane, but they would end up getting killed by the Citadel of Ricks.

[@verdantmistral442]

I kind of wonder if this Rick is the original inventor of the portal gun and that he is also supposed to be the inventor of time travel. That the reason he was forced into inventing the gun was because the Citadel was given the secret by a time traveling Rick and this gun needed to be made by this Rick to exist. (Though the Citadel may have been unaware of who the original inventor was at the time thus forcing every Rick to figure it out so that the loop can exist.) And this Rick somewhere along the line learned of this loop and is trying to actively avoid inventing reliable time travel. So that he can't go back and start the cycle.

[@DIRTkat_ofc]

Nah, the creators of rick and morty just don't want any kind of time travel

[@ilikefood6378]

creators of the show just said it gets too complicated so they wont do it

[@masterduelfreemium2884]

6:28 The stand up comedy memory in which we see the blue pants version of Rick, since he already knows BP, takes place after the ones in which we first see his long hair version. So either he loses his wife and daughter > then goes through a phase where he keeps his hair longer, distributes drugs and meets BP > and then gets back to his previous style, or something doesn't add up in the timeline

[@flightzero4005]

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[@themelanatednomad6989]

This also should confirm that this current Morty isn’t his first Morty either. Because he had memories of seeing a baby Morty.

[@nashwise4everGM]

It would be ironic it's Evil Morty, the first of the first, the Mortiest of Morty for Rickiest of Rick and the Morty that fade up and give up on his Rick.

[@1ny0f4c31]

@@nashwise4everGM couldn't be his morty because his beth and diane died meaning he never had his 'own' morty

[@waldoc2829]

The fact Rick choosing his family is what killed them also parallels really well with the shy pooping episode where the guy choosing to self actualize and live his life is what got him tragically killed while skiing. In fact, it parallels so well that it eliminates any doubt in my mind that this was always the intention for Rick's character, rather than Rick's backstory being decided recently.

[@SyEEDCC]

This really did slap me in the face with lore, Mr. Harmon was right! This expands a whole new potential for lore, this even backs up your evil Morty theory. Morty now knowing that Rick isn’t his Rick, draws him to become evil. Wow matt great episode!

[@9nikola]

Actually this episode proves that the Beth they left behind in the Cronenberged Earth wasn't Rick's original Beth, further proving that the Cronenberged Earth _ISN'T_ Earth C-137 and that it is also likely that Rick has lived in several universes, thus also making the images of Rick with baby and toddler Morty in seasons 1 and 2 more likely to be true. Thus, by extension, it has more or less been proven that Rick has left behind at least one other Morty, either because he thought that Morty died or because that morty became too cocky. In conclusion, the theory that Evil Morty is one of Rick's past Mortys is now almost confirmed and thus the theory about Rick's current Morty becoming Evil Morty in the future-past is now even more disproven, following season 5's pattern of disproving that theory at least once in every episode.

[@pipisxipies]

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[@maximetremblay6424]

And with the last episode, we can theorize that rick built the central finite curve to prevent other rick to have the same fate. All the jerk ricks stuck inside a finite infinity. A way to prevent them to affect other Ricks who gave up to take care of their family

[@ParadoxPerson02]

Oh dang

[@m.c.martin]

And Evil Morty saw it as a prison because he wanted out

[@ThanosDestroyeryearsago]

Other Ricks would still have the same fate within the Central Finite Curve. A Rick coming in and killing a young Rick’s family is possible. Since it’s a multiverse. Some universes probably take place at different time periods. So an infinite amount of Ricks will continue to have C-137’s fate. Remember, all the Ricks in the curve are the smartest in their universe. Doesn’t mean that their families won’t be killed by another Rick or even by someone else entirely.

[@unknownvariable9239]

Just look at the Heist episode, Rick’s plan for Morty to go along on adventures includes the death of entire worlds. He probably has more confirmed kills of innocent characters than any other character in TV history. This theory does make a lot of sense

[@lfkkkfk862]

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[@dylanburns8759]

you literally just disproved the theory in your comment. family is everything to rick.

[@KrolozTalks]

The doctor has more confirmed kills

[@pipisxipies]

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[@poogybear3793]

7:50 the portal is blue, but it's green "in the future" and the last episode so far has a golden portal

[@ThMole]

You forgot a piece of the puzzle. Remember the episode where Rick reveals he made a pocket dimension safe zone to keep Beth after she started asking him to make very odd and potentially dangerous items to use on other people? At what point did Rick start saving people who crossed Beth's "bad seed" style psycho-path?

[@michaelkeith5398]

Came here to make the same comment

[@Burger.]

It’s possible Rick made invented pocket dimension technology before inventing interdimensional travel, so the theory could still check out.

[@sonofgaming1546]

Also what really confuses my is that he has memories of child morty in close rick counters of the rick kind but it is said somewhere in the series that he left beth for tweenty years(which would be before morty was born but quite a bit after the first set of diane and beth were killed)

[@SethirothGaming]

@@sonofgaming1546 is it possible that those are just Beth's memories from that time-line and that Rick somehow accessed them in order to blend in better?

[@jamez3465]

I don't think it negates this... He could have went on his rampage and then ended up back at "an abandoned beths house" maybe even one where diana died but Beth didn't...

[@MK-ld6il]

I imaged Rick when he was a kid as a smarter stewie griffin, like right out of the box Rick was just able to speak fluent English

[@btsxdreamxspongebobfanfict1796]

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[@sjahbw]

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[@pkpyro2000]

@FandomKween13❎ nah nah nah Stewie speaks British totally different man

[@AspectRatioYT]

Stewie is Rick would be an amazing film theory

[@dalooter2607]

hwip is the proper way of saying whip

[@elischiffler259]

Omg this is why Beth said she didn’t want Rick to leave and chose him over jerry

[@phi7ipjones]

With the start of season 6, I must say, this was pretty spot on

[@amirightPeter]

This explains why, even though there are infinite universes, there’s a limited number of universes they can travel to when they destroy one, like in the Rick Potion episode.

[@gameinsane4718]

Woah! I remember being so confused how infinite universes could have a finite amount of “coincidental death timings” to slide into but it actually does make sense

[@goodname7660]

They explain why there’s a finite amount of universes in the season 5 finale

[@danielchoi4490]

@@goodname7660 No they don't they simply separated the infinite universes where he's a god from the infinite universes where he's not. The number line is infinite, but there's also infinite numbers between 0 and 1. The CFC is the numbers from 0 to 1. The other universes is all the other numbers.

[@lionelmartinsevich1432]

They are infinite number of universes they can travel, its just that everytime is harder to found one, just like prime numbers.

[@kjl3080]

@@danielchoi4490 then it would’ve been called “central infinite curve”

[@ZereWasTaken]

Or, hear me out, that origin story is still fabricated, because it’s something he told BP as well. Since the whole episode is a romp through BP’s mind and memories, who’s to say Rick didn’t tell him the same made up origin?

[@lfkkkfk862]

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[@melissajohnstone8342]

I also think it needs to be some sort of fabrication because if beths who have ricks stay end up dying, and beths who stay alive and grow up but didn’t have Rick around for her, and our Rick is the “Beth who dies” Rick, how would our Rick know about floopy land?

[@AstraFulminous]

Don't you *burp* establish canonical backstory with me!! (Although you're still right it could technically still be a red herring, this show is hard to predict)

[@AM-jx3zf]

But he loved BP so he may have told him the truth

[@pvic6959]

I dont even watch rick and morty. why am i here lol

[@PropaChels_CFC]

If Rick lives with a different version of his family, where does Evil Morty come into play? Does Evil Morty have any connection to Rick, or was Evil Morty his original Morty and Rick moved to a dimension of an abandoned Beth twice, once with Evil Morty and once with our Morty?

[@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l]

It's possible that Morty was how Rick originally looked until he hopped dimensions living as his own grandfather... maybe he took on Rick's appearance to escape what he did in the future and came back to the past and cloned himself impregnating Beth to make Morty take the blame in the future. But this is just one of my theories that they probably wouldn't do since it would make for a rather lame backstory.

[@Ilivepuppys]

@@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l I don't think so since evil morty is our morty's age.

[@chocovampire]

@@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l this would contradict the after credits scene where we see young Rick

[@clapped_mazda]

@@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l and we saw kid Rick in the newest episode, so we know he looks nothing like morty

[@joshclark9774]

Has anyone ever thought that evil morty just tried to frame a random rick maybe they don't know each other at all

[@darkness-uq6qi]

Know what really shows he's the Rickest Rick? That he's potentially the only rick to have refused the Portal tech, Leading to his family getting killed, leading to him going on a Rick killing rampage to find the one that took his Family away

[@melreinh5265]

This is also an additional punch in the gut when you remember what happened on Season 2 Finale. He finally decides to open himself to the idea of love again at Bird Person's wedding, only for him to be brutally killed in front of him, with a later follow up swearing at himself and his family for even thinking about such a thing.

[@pipisxipies]

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[@InactiveMemes]

Really makes you look at that line "Most Ricks Have a Morty" a little differently.

[@sharkbiteshitposts5506]

So would that mean most ricks truly do care?

[@kingofcold6254]

@@sharkbiteshitposts5506 No, it means most ricks don't care about family. when Rick cares about his family, Beth gets killed. so only ricks that don't care about their family end up having a morty

[@rx-7893]

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[@rx-7893]

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[@seanacuesta3332]

CONGRATULATIONS MATPAT!!! The Season Finale of the 5th season confirmed your theory! Congrats to FT’ team! Another one for the win

[@giin97]

@acktually aintaddingup ... You keep commenting that episode 8 disproves this video... which is a theory about episode 8. So the source of this video theory is what disproves this video theory? Sounds awfully convoluted.

[@WithScienceAsMySheperd]

did you notice that Rick points us to the WRONG episode in the last episode when they say check season 1 episode 9... cuz ep 9 is the one with the Devil, not with Evil morty. So the Stan Lee-Rick who tells us to check an old episode is misleading us, "Summer your grand father IS the devil!" -the Devil Alfred Molina

[@bear1432]

In season 6 its alredy comfirmed that morty is the morty of the rick that killed beth

[@marcbate3190]

So he chose both in the end, he chose science to create the portal gun to avenge his family. Weirdly wholesome

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

*Nothing stronger than FAMILLY* Dom Toretto

[@adityamalhotra8702]

The amount of thought that went behind this show is truly Astounding

[@loturzelrestaurant]

Ah, its average. I've seen smarter Shows.

[@LaundrySaucee]

@@loturzelrestaurant name 100

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@LaundrySaucee XD Wheres this number suddenly coming from? 100? Why?

[@LaundrySaucee]

@@loturzelrestaurant "show(S)* meaning more than one lol. So name 100 aha

[@justthatoneguy5012]

Alternate Reality Rick: Finally a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary

[@lfkkkfk862]

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[@AxxLAfriku]

GAGAGAGAGAGA! I will now count to 3 and then I am still the unprettiest KZbinr of all time. 1...2...3. GAGAGAGAGAGA!!! Thank you for your attention, dear pab

[@pompshuffle562]

Ay Pablo... Wait... What did you do with beluga?

[@aestronom1920]

ITS PABLO

[@Nvmmmmmm1102]

@@AxxLAfriku who asked

[@mekenataunton6237]

Having a sick day Rick and Morty theory marathon and wondering how have you not made a season five finale video yet?! So many questions to be answered! What about the central finite curve!?!

[@StorableGaming]

This theory is so sound that I don’t even think it’s a theory. I feel like Dan himself told you the answer 😭😭 that’s how *chefs kiss* this is

[@9nikola]

Well it's not a theory, it's the confirmation of some theories that have been around since season 1.

[@pipisxipies]

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[@drooprtroopr6969]

"90s kids will understand" Mat, you do realize All Star is a meme, right?

[@fuschiawarrior2159]

Just like "XXs kids will understand" is a meme too.

[@9nikola]

And also a fairly good song in general

[@pipisxipies]

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[@calebzi5599]

Coming back here after the finale, wow, this aged well.

[@jtapsbs]

For real

[@WeightLossTipsAndTricks101]

@acktually aintaddingup LMFAO

[@tamamshud5879]

More like aged liked milk

[@thatonespider681]

@@tamamshud5879 no, he’s almost completely right

[@ParadoxPerson02]

Ya no kidding. XD

[@gmemack8110]

Always thought Rick and Morty purposefully sounded like Rigor Mortis...Rick is literally avoiding the "stiffness of death" on a figurative level.

[@shreknskrubgaming7248]

Something I just found: In the advertisement for Simple Rick's, the narrator states that Simple Rick is "sixty iterations off the central finite curve," which is the same thing that Evil Morty was talking about in the season finale. Knowing what we know now, I don't know if it changes anything, but it's something I noticed and I haven't seen anyone else mention it yet.

[@MiTaReX]

That's what I thought too. He's from outside the CFC and he's not the god of his dimension, so Ricks traveled outside of CFC at some point before or after CFC isolation was established.

[@mostafafouad6846]

actually makes sense since the only ricks who do become the smartest in their universes are one where they A) abandon beth and diane for science or B) beth and diane get killed and the rick continues the path of science. the central finite verse or the CFC was made for all the smartest ricks in their universes which is why that was the case, to be the smartest one of 2 thing MUST happen. however that is impossible since there are infinite universes so simple rick was in one where he wasnt the smartest but he was happy, something ricks inside the CFC cannot achieve. deep down they are all sad old lonely men

[@shreknskrubgaming7248]

@@mostafafouad6846 these were my thoughts, but I figured I'd just share the information for anyone who is either smarter than me or had different interpretations for it. It seems to make the most sense to me and it's interesting that they've had this in the works to some degree for a while. I can't wait to see what the rest of the show has to offer in the future.

[@KhakiPance]

I have no idea why, but this kinda reminds me of a scene from the title (I don't know what season) where there are a bunch of Ricks in a small room, seeming to be talking and collaborating about a big project while one of the Ricks gets electrocuted and dies. This amount of collaboration with himself (there were about 5-7 Ricks) is rarely ever seen and maybe has something to do with the CFC since they are all supposedly on the same level of intelligence. This is hard to theorize since it's a small clip with no episode to back it up. Maybe I'm overlooking this and is redundant just like the Cthulhu scene but there's a chance I'm not

[@shreknskrubgaming7248]

@@KhakiPance I'm still holding out hope that Cthulhu shows up in the show. Love me some Lovecraft (no pun intended.)

[@FreaknikJr254]

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[@gwyn.cinders]

came here to see this comment

[@NL9-CAP]

Can’t believe he solved Rick and morty

[@bencebucsi5793]

Not really.

[@therider990]

How?

[@ketchupdude1319]

I mean if you pay attention at the episodes you could of guessed

[@acemstudio]

I think the lies will be what drive Morty to align with Evil Morty. BUT THAT'S JUST A THEORY. Edit- okay after the season 5 finale and season 6 premier and ep 2, YEAH KIND OF RIGHT ON THAT. He didn't SIDE With Evil Morty, but EMorty planted those seeds of doubt in Morty's head. Ohhhh season 6 is gonna be a DOOZY.

[@lfkkkfk862]

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[@Nightmare-yx4rc]

a game theory

[@axelinedgelord4459]

This place is infested

[@TheSheepster]

An INTERESTING theory!

[@pipisxipies]

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[@starlined2351]

The relationship’s vs science thing really hits hard when you realize that bird person died as soon as rick opened up to him

[@MaksKCS]

But... That fabricated memory by your definition of not being a new idea IS a remix of everything Rick might've experienced.

[@fuschiawarrior2159]

Exactly, Rick could use someone tragic life story as his to trick everyone.

[@MaksKCS]

@about you no

[@pipisxipies]

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[@SolaRedux]

Wouldn’t this make like most of the Rick’s “creeps” because most have Morty’s. He wouldn’t have met Morty without going back to Beth.

[@pipisxipies]

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[@chilljelloton2089]

Yeah, explains the whole Citadel thing.

[@Rickrollmachine23]

No, those Rick's are the ones who abandoned beth which is how they get a Morty. Rick got a Morty and beth from going to a dimension like that the "creeps" he's referring to are not the ones who abandoned beth but went to a reality where they did and the original is dead.

[@SolaRedux]

@@Rickrollmachine23 Also, I’m sure Morty might go down the same path “Evil Morty” did. Killing his Rick and becoming independent. Morty might join forces with Evil Morty.

[@syomchi]

That's a young idealistic Rick, just look at it with his perspective

[@walidahnaf1259]

"there you go kid, now you're evil Morty too, sooner or later we all are, on this side of the curve"

[@ethandavis2522]

Theory: Simple Rick is a version of rick that decided to stay with his family, and the family didn’t get murdered by other ricks

[@jackaljack0]

Thinking back to season one, we are shown a memory of ricks where we see him holding baby morty. This may imply that rick has been looking for a new family for a lot of time, desensitising him to it. He could have been looking ever since Morty was born but they all died on him until one family didn’t

[@RejectReef]

11:10 Technically, the Rick he's known since the age of 14. Remember, Season 1 starts with Rick having just moved in after Beth C-137's Rick had left 20 years prior. It's why Morty has had little to no reservations about killing Rick or letting him die in the past. It may or may not be his grandfather, but it's also just an old man who moved in and quickly started wreaking havoc on his otherwise normal life and impacting his family, for better or worse. Learning that the Rick he knows isn't actually _his_ Rick probably wouldn't surprise Morty in the slightest. In fact, he probably already suspects it, especially given the roles of Mortys in the Citadel, which our Morty has witnessed firsthand.

[@Ivy94F]

I was looking for this comment. There was that scene in season 1 where beth celebrates his on yr anniversary of coming back into her life after a 20yr absence. Morty couldn’t have ‘known’ him his whole life.

[@RejectReef]

@@Ivy94F Even still, our Rick HAS known Morty for Morty's entire life. Or, atleast, _a_ Morty, granted the memory Rick has of holding a baby Morty. A memory so important to him, in fact, that it brought him to tears. Granted the fact that citadel apparently mandated that Beths (and apparently Diane) are supposed to be abandoned in the pursuit of science, it begs the question; granted the surplus of Mortys on the Citadel, even requiring their own education and being available as market commodities, are (or, were, granted the collapse of the council and recent election of President/Evil Morty) young Mortys kidnapped by the citadel for their own purposes?

[@RejectReef]

WHOOPS

[@Crow_Rising]

Remember that "Time Travel Stuff" box in Rick's garage way earlier in the series? Something that kinda makes sense is that it could be a failed experiment from back when he was trying to get revenge for the death of his family, or immediately after. An attempt at stopping them from getting murdered to begin with by undoing the entire existence of the Council of Ricks before they could make him the offer that ultimately took everything from him. Ultimately, Rick could never crack time travel, and has to live with his past staying exactly the same as he remembers it.

[@kadesblunt]

the fact that they haven’t done a rick and morty theory since the season 5 finale is literally criminal

[@greyson3421]

Morty has moved in with another multiversal family *TWICE.* In “Morty’s Mindblowers” Rick gives him a device to talk to animals, then Morty listens to the squirrels, they chase him and then Rick knocks them out for 5 min. Rick than says *Morty you f’ed with squirrels, YOU F’ED with SQUIRRELS!* Rick then said they had about 5 MIN to move to another reality before they come back.

[@TheMomosnackerz]

The dead bodies are still in the backyard later on tho?

[@parisheidi3119]

@@TheMomosnackerz huh continuity error?

[@wordswordswords413]

@@parisheidi3119 Or it could work with the theory that the Rick and morty we follow each and every episode aren't the same.

[@James-gl3gd]

@@wordswordswords413 it may have happened before the cronenburg episode and Morty doesn't remember it because it was mind blown.

[@greyson3421]

@@James-gl3gd That’s a great point!

[@jiggybean8514]

If "Schitzophrenic Steve" ISN'T an episode of Film Theory, I'm going to be so dang sad =(

[@_Absolutebuffoon_]

Yes

[@NicoDavid]

can we get a KYLE theory matt patt?

[@TheHotBlade]

Maybe.

[@grease5977]

Hello nico david, kumain ka na ba

[@damnjemy]

Hi Nico David

[@Ace8955]

kyle is Mr.PBH Kyle Poopybutthole

[@btsxdreamxspongebobfanfict1796]

SPO BOB THEORY GANG

[@levarmoore3404]

This is the main reason why Rick acts like his doesn't care bout his family. Because they're not his

[@robertmorales7812]

"The Rick that [Morty's] known for his entire life". Bruh, Morty meets Rick only shortly before we meet Rick in episode 1.

[@senzmaki]

correct me if I'm wrong but i remember a scene where rick carries baby morty

[@kuromi2880]

@@senzmaki yeah but that probably is a different morty, because Beth said Rick abandoned her as a kid and only came back when morty and summer were already teens

[@l10ht65]

@@senzmaki the first evil morty ep on ricks memory’s but then whos family is that and who is evil morty if his not ricks og morty

[@l10ht65]

Wtf i blew my own mind

[@jeffreymasoe8217]

Do a theory about "Starr Park: Invest in the Park", see if there are any hidden lore behind the creation of the park or relations to the game.

[@swordam1063]

Has brawl stars released any lore since then?

[@sarahloveless1726]

For people arguing about this being in BPs memories: why would Rick lie to BP who, for all intensive purposes, Rick trusts the most out of.... well anyone?

[@jayb8934]

Sorry to be "that guy", but the expression is "all intents and purposes".

[@sarahloveless1726]

@@jayb8934 lol I was wondering why that looked wrong. Thanks for not being a jerk about🤗

[@jamez3465]

that and since its his memories bird person had to have SEEN some of this with his own eyes... As in, the portal gun, his different hairstyles etc, not just the war part.

[@thorveim1174]

"most of anyone" doesn't mean full trust. But how Rick interacts with memory rick hints heavily that no, he didn't lie to Bird Person. "I am in great pain, please help me" indeed... now we know what this great pain is. And the simple fact Rick decided to say it in Bird Person's language really shows how close they were.

[@Shad0wBoxxer]

As soon as you hit the ground running with that into i was screaming yes at the top of my lungs!

[@joshngarcia]

That was brilliant. Basically nailed the core motivator for the lead character.

[@pipisxipies]

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[@ghostsurfer23]

This also explains why Rick has memories of playing with a toddler Morty, even though we're told in the pilot he has been gone from their lives for longer than Morty has been alive. Prior to moving in with this family he likely lived with one where he was present in the family's history a lot earlier. ALSO, I think there's a hint in an earlier episode that support MatPat's earlier theory that season 5 is Evil Morty's origin story. In the Thanksgiving episode, Jerry asks Rick how long he's been doing his turkey pardon scheme. "I don't know, Jerry, how many years have I lived here? Careful how you answer that." It's a very quick line, but given that Rick is the main person who breaks the fourth wall, that seems like it could be a quick little wink to the audience that how long Rick has lived there is an important piece of info for the larger story.