Film Theory: Spiderman's Big REVEAL! The X Men Are Coming! (Spider Man No Way Home)

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Theorists, we know that Spider-Man: No Way Home is going to be WILD! What you may not know is that Shang-Chi may have ALREADY told us what's going to happen in the end. That's right, we are predicting the FUTURE of the MCU and how Shang-Chi and Doctor Strange are at the heart of it all. Get ready to crack open the multiverse, Theorists, there is no going back from here!
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[@krishnajohri8284]

I love how Spider-Man had absolutely nothing to do with this theory

[@mr.ditkovich2579]

Give me rent.

[@erizorico]

Clickbait 😔

[@that_bad_animater]

I know its weird so ye I am watching after no way home to see how accurate he was and got clickbaited lol

[@caitlinbarriger315]

There was some of spider man no way home in it

[@milessaxton]

Yeah actually, why ‘do’ people lock overpowered evil entities behind areas that you would otherwise expect to have access at some point? Doors, caves, or whatever else

[@lostmonkey]

You have to close it behind them. Maybe you could walk it off after but the door had to be there in the first place.

[@blueee0088]

Good luck making a solid and strong enough wall while the monster is inside. With doors, they can create them earlier and just lock 'em when the monster crosses.

[@gault6546]

maybe because building a wall around the creature would take too long? i feel like the "doors" and "caves" function more like snares, cages or jailcells, where they have to exist prior to the lockup, and have to have an entrance so that the creature can be locked up quicker? but idk that's just one way to look at it

[@inahara7937marcus]

It's basic rules of most witchery/magic: Where there is a beginning, there MUST be an end. There has to be a way for them to be released/unleashed

[@j0nezki]

@@lostmonkey but you can just make wall on top of the door

[@sorryipanicked3849]

"Why do people always lock things behind doors instead of walls?" Actually, I read a book that had an answer to this. I don't know if it applies in this situation, since they're two COMPLETELY different universes, but since they're both magical doors trapping giant magical creatures in a different dimension, I would assume it's close enough. I don't remember it very well, but the basic idea was that "when sealing something with magic, there _has_ to be a way to undo it. If there isn't, the magic starts to unravel itself, weakening until it no longer works properly. If there's a way to undo it, no matter how difficult, the magic stays functional for an almost infinite amount of time." Plus, it's just common sense. If there's a door, then people will focus on trying to get through that door, and won't realise that they could just destroy it much easier. Another reason could possibly be that they needed a way to get the thing in there. If they conjured a wall in front of it, or built a wall, it might take a lot longer than simply closing a door. Yes I know that was a joke, I laughed at it and realised it was a joke immediately. I just find this subject fascinating, and I'll take any excuse to dig through a book.

[@cauthrim4298]

Sounds like something from a Discworld novel

[@darkwarfare772]

Building a box to lure something in and lock it in definitely much easier to build the box around the something from scratch. You want to build a garage and lure a mad car driver into it, not have them park the car and build the garage around it.

[@Crowdraws]

The book might be the Fablehaven series, one of the main characters asked why the giant demon prison had a way of releasing the demons inside and another character said something like what you put in your comment

[@mexica5402]

ill take any excuse to dig through the earth. im suicidal ;)

[@TheBrothergreen]

I feel like the magic was being sustained on an ongoing basis by the good dragon so deterioration wasn't a concern.

[@andrewbrockman3948]

There’s actually a reference to the Fantastic 4 in Spider-Man 2. When Peter and MJ swing to the ground before the Mysterio announcement framing Peter, you can see wall barriers on the street behind them, saying: “we can’t wait to show you what’s next! 1… 2… 3… ?”

[@shadowthief6537]

I want a theory that calculates how often MatPat’s theories are accurate

[@ninjaned1000]

and Austin definitely has to be the one to make it "THE SCIENCE OF... MATPAT?"

[@jaguaKaneo]

Up

[@jigmedyolmo1970]

@@ninjaned1000 I second this notion.

[@brodyscicluna9763]

60%

[@sir_zech13.7]

fr tho, I would love to see it, maybe we should request from austin

[@goingblargh]

_They’ve done studies, you know. Sixty percent of the time, Matpat’s theories are right every time!_

[@NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy]

I understood that reference.

[@MrJayateabug]

"68% of online theories are made up as they are being written." ~Thomas Jefferson

[@mobbossbobross390]

@@oliviawilde5646 wtf

[@ArtistChibi]

Never seen the movie and I understood that reference.

[@YouberChannel]

Hehe *Bots*

[@midstonefox702]

Was it just me or did you forget what the video was about because he kept switching to x-men, Spider-Man, erternals, the comics, and Shang-chi?

[@Jakepf]

It's just you

[@ZekeAxel]

Watching this after No Way Home. Oh MatPat, you fool.

[@Mopark25]

Nothing has been disproven yet

[@omegadeadpool2947]

The most impressive part about this movie is that they taught those Dragons to act. I mean if those Dragons could act, imagine what someone like I could do

[@joshuahayduke6383]

Haha. Underrated comment

[@pandanganmatiyn1487]

Best line tbh

[@reagyman405]

Honestly man they should hire meee

[@disconnexionsdotcom]

Dead... *I'm not actually dead.. It's an act. Play along.

[@dillonfaulk7376]

I’m sorry the Grammy goes to Morris

[@noahnaugler7611]

A door is how you efficiently get out after putting the monster on the other side. You should absolutely build a wall on the outside of the door, but it would take to long to build the wall while there is an open space for it to escape through

[@firdanharbima6997]

Who cares about the one that trapped the monster? They agree to sacrifice themselves in the first place so bye

[@ThatGuyIsToxic]

That's what the guy signed up for as soon as he agreed to build it

[@skawattle1213]

Couldn't you like you know get out close the door then wall it up seems like closing the door works

[@razzdazzjazz]

This comment is so strange without context.

[@redgiant2617]

Agreed the should have built a wall after closing the door.

[@MinecraftIsLoveMinecraftIsLife]

wow, matpat, you really impressed me with that theory. it's just so amazing how you and the theory team can come up with this stuff! :)

[@xTriton_]

*MatPat:* WHY NOT MAKE WALLS? Walls aren't meant to be opened! *Movie logic:* No, silly they're meant to be broken! The result would've been the same either way.

[@truestproductions2302]

a true statement if ive ever seen one

[@foothafool2881]

Since Matpat says X men is coming i can safety assume X Men wont be appearing in No Way Home

[@nickcalderon2637]

It’s funny how most of MatPat’s theories almost always are ways to predict what’s NOT going to happen, but still somewhat in a weird way makes sense (unless it’s a theory like Ness = Sans).

[@waynealexander5668]

Because they're already home

[@shivenmayani1806]

Look to be fair he did predict Shang Chi

[@davidteres9463]

write there " *iva kivock in pelea goala* " kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIeYeGiJhM10fMU

[@noah2698]

Same

[@cfscorpio]

This is a real stretch. I think they just made the Dweller in Darkness a generic monster because they had no plans to use him as anything more. They actually use it the same way in the Guardians of the Galaxy game.

[@starryeyes5534]

most of the stuff about the xmen in the mcu felt like a stretch, but the stuff about the potential villians/wanda being called to actually sounded realistic! If I had to guess he’s probably PARTIALLY correct lol

[@robbyb3ll4s]

He also messed up the fact that X-Men 87 is a sequel to the show, not a reboot of it

[@kylerivera3470]

@@robbyb3ll4s Though, it being a sequel would actually fit better with the theory on how it will be ending like it did in the comics.

[@mephostopheles3752]

@@starryeyes5534 A stretch? Are you kidding? The stuff about X-men ‘97 sounds so legit. I’ll be surprised if none of it whatsoever is true.

[@GirishManeShine]

Plus the question still remains where are the X men in present day MUC? Sure X men 97 might have given rise to Galan, Galactus and present day MUC and Galactus might be the upcoming big baddie but where does X men fit now?

[@ApexZillaAnimates]

14:44 Matpat... Thats Ultron... Not Galactus

[@zad08]

A theory that calculates how often matpat theories are correct, the accuracy over the lifetime of his channels and it needs to be hosted by Austin. THE SCIENCE 🔬

[@MrWizeazz]

I just want Deadpool to randomly walk by the scaffolding fight scene and nonchalantly say “Not my cat, not my fight” and he just continues to walk past the huge fight, ignoring it completely. Lol

[@MbitaChizi]

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[@Black_rabbit1]

lol

[@IcyDiamond]

That’d be great honestly

[@iforget6940]

@J i m i e Claw________💋 begone

[@davidteres9463]

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[@benniek1050]

Matpat's marvel theories are always correct... thirty percent of the time.

[@MbitaChizi]

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[@breawen]

hope that these 3 on top are the only bots who's gonna comment here

[@noah2698]

True that

[@xXLiLJokerXx]

I still think it's Shima gorath

[@lewisbaldwin9683]

Danganrompa vibes right here

[@Tdog_Tbone]

This theory makes so much more sense now because of the dead pool leaks

[@Goosewiththemfjuice]

0:17 matpat’s inner fanboy for marvel is being released from its inprisionment

[@ShortHax]

“You’re not Peter Parker” “No, this is Patrick!”

[@MbitaChizi]

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[@milktea6676]

Uhhhhhhhhhhh Multiverse?

[@SuperRamtin]

😂

[@hicream2237]

wrong dimesion moment

[@davidteres9463]

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[@quinnconnelly7245]

This was a great theory, I agree with it, but it really didn't have much to do with Spider-Man or No Way Home. It was much more focused on Shiang-Chi.

[@MasterKey2004]

Gotta get people to click

[@racool911]

Gotta ride the NWH hype lmao

[@abidulmuhaiminrahbar]

I think he was telling about future of mcu, not just about the spiderman movie. Like in after credit scenes, they can reveal about xmen or venom, and these villains from other universes

[@quinnconnelly7245]

@@abidulmuhaiminrahbar Well yeah, but then why's No Way Home the main portion of the title other than clickbait?

[@cktkat]

True, probably because of click bait. NWH is coming out this month though so maybe he's hoping something will happen in it to help tie into the theory?

[@danieldomen2057]

Just a reminder that in the story where the planets produce superpowered entities as "antibodies" to protect the celestial eggs in their cores, Galactus consumes these planets not just because he's hungry but as a counterbalance to the propagation of the celestials and their potential "overpopulation".

[@ishangonehal8893]

This did not age well

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

I'm surprised that the possibility that the "Dweller in Darkness" we saw in Shang-chi was not actually the "Dweller in Darkness" wasn't brought up. I mean, it's totally possible that the big dragon thing was just a general, a "mid-level boss", as it were. It just seemed weird that before the door opened, it acted as a skillful manipulator, but as soon as the seal broke it was just "Rawr big monster"...

[@seelfire4725]

to be honest, once the door was open, asking very nicely woulnt have gotten it anything right in front of that village :/

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

@@seelfire4725 "Greetings, I'm the Dweller in Darkness, pleased to meet you all. If you would be so kind as to let me past, I would not be forced to steal all your souls. By the way, did you all realize that I could have literally flown in any other direction than this town? Not installing a giant net or barrier around the door was a very poor decision..."

[@TheBrothergreen]

@@insertclevernamehere1186 The village is at the portal to earth. If the dweller decides hes cool not destroying our reality, there's really nothing to be gained by forcing a confrontation. Nothing wrong with that.

[@TheBrothergreen]

That is consistent with marvel/Disney's MO. Introducing a big bad and then leaving it to simmer off screen while subtly implying that it might be dead or just another power below an even bigger threat.

[@silent_bob7314]

More than likely one of the fear lords Kkallakku

[@jaycub8547]

Matpats strat for the perfect theory for how they bring over the FOX characters is to just do like, 50 theories about it and one will end up being right

[@jayeshbisht8999]

I thought I'd get some witty replies but all I'm greeted with are bots.

[@durmgrid8037]

That's largely been his strat for Fnaf, too...and Bendy...and...well, everything...

[@captaininsane9101]

Isn't that how any theorist "career" works?

[@sanderssimmons9908]

Well that didn’t happen

[@FlamingBlade248]

Stephanie and MatPat watching a movie: Steph: Matthew, please don’t start making any Theory’s while we’re watching this. I just wanna enjoy this film. MatPat: Wait, what if….. Steph: Oh No

[@seangariety6742]

The part where Matpat said that the Dweller of Darkness probably talked to Wanda as her kids freaking BLEW MY MIND!!! I feel like that could 100% have happened

[@lilmoon1890]

I mean there are more fearlords

[@endoverlord423]

what trailer is that in? i want to watch it but i can't find it

[@Grace-td5dd]

@@endoverlord423 it’s a post credit scene in WandaVision

[@thereali1ickyou320]

i don’t think they’d connect the two characters like that. she definitely heard her kids, but probably from another universe

[@dominiquedavis5152]

Woooooooooowwwwww

[@CaptainCat101]

I'm still not convinced. I'm pretty sure the MCU is going to bring in Spider-Ham

[@MbitaChizi]

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[@gattodacatto]

Ah yes, BOT COMMENTS. Exactly what ruins a good comment...

[@xXLiLJokerXx]

To be honest, I still think it's actually the many angled one aka Shima gorath

[@mc-rn8ro]

I'm calling it right now (only half-joking), the other two Spiders in No Way Home will be Spider-Ham and Spider Noir. There! Now I'll get bragging rights if, by some stroke of luck or absurdity, I'm proven right!

[@CaptainCat101]

@@mc-rn8ro makes sense. Marvel needs Nicolas Cage before he stays with DC as Superman (he played Superman in the Teen Titans Go movie)

[@TwinRiver100]

13:40 my guess as far as why they noticed Shang-Chi's use and not WenWu's might be due to the power level usage. Wenwu's power usage of the rings was probably at a basic or average level of magic usage that might not get all that much notice with all the regular magic that gets used on Earth. You'd have to be REALLY looking for that unique magic signature and scrolling through subsections of magic to notice and find it. But Shang-Chi in that movie probably pushed the power intensity when he fought The Dweller in Darkness, that surpassed the base-line magic levels Khamar Taj would notice. And that got Wong to look into the specifics of what was going on and to seek out Shang-Chi himself.

[@DOrtiz-jl5cn]

This is probably one of the best theories I’ve heard on this channel! We have already seen how they have used animation to tie into the live action MCU, with the what if series. I kind of hope that this theory pans out

[@laforge9892]

To be fair you can’t just put a giant monster in a room and expect it to just sit still while you build a wall, so you build the door ahead of time and put him in and shut the door

[@sb6196]

You could build a wall in front of the Door

[@user-mb1ov3cn9v]

Put a door and cover it with a wall. Problem solved

[@BaDazai]

......then build a wall infront of the door....

[@strifenineteen]

But the issue is there's still a door behind the wall, a door that can be opened

[@BaDazai]

@@strifenineteen doesn't make difference if there is a door or not behind a wall in your context.

[@GamingwolfZJ]

Matpat: “I’m not mad, just disappointed!” LEVEL UP! From Barbeque Dad, to True Dad!

[@MouseCreations]

Yeah, lol

[@nehemiahcamiling6927]

More like MadPat

[@LeBoxMan]

Xu Wenwu didn’t activate the beacon on the 10 rings because he “wasn’t worthy” and that’s why he also never unlocked their full potential. That’s why Shang Chi was able to use them so easily and so strong from the beginning.

[@blaze556922]

I felt like the Dragons fit perfectly with the Eastern philosophy and history of the film.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

"Doctor Strange, huh that guy keeps showing up in weird places these days, doesn't he?" I never knew being omnipresent was one of his powers

[@samuelcholula381]

First reply let's gooooo, hola

[@gg2k11]

@@samuelcholula381 how sad is it that we get excited when bots don't comment first

[@ryanreylondsthesecond2796]

yo i think you’re just some guy without a moustache

[@radstaz2029]

More like wong, the dude is appearing everywhere. Shang chi, spiderman, doctor strange 2, she hulk

[@thewolverine3000]

I am seein' you in weird places too omnipresent (without a) mustache bub! Last night I saw you in the dark pits of you know what Hub \l/

[@thelazygamer2195]

Wong walking in to ask MatPat about theories is just… perfect.

[@MbitaChizi]

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[@nathana9649]

This comment is just…. Perfect

[@Dumb_boi16]

Remind me never to read the comments before watching the video

[@AKM_47U]

L

[@davidteres9463]

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[@edsellraut4310]

I dunno if matpat forgot a detail but in order to seal someone or something then you should first put it in and in order to do that you need an opening.

[@unicornpotato0751]

0:45 not me instinctively saying NINETEEN

[@berserkerrex4411]

I'm not sure how much comic reading you've done MatPat but it's worth mentioning that the 10 rings used by the Mandarin come from the civilization of Fing Fang Foom. Also if Galactus were to invade our heroes in the MCU would also have to clash with his heralds, which is one reason it would also be hard for Galactus to be manipulated.

[@basmaabdallah9077]

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[@andreiy3177]

Fing Fang Foom was laready mentioned on a theory about shang chi

[@annatabner8459]

Not necessarily, the MCU doesn’t have to play by the rules in the comics - and it rarely does anyway

[@micah-bi8rv]

BRO GALACTUS EATS PLANETS, THE PLANETS ARE CELESTIALS, GALACTUS EATS CELESTIALS

[@cormacbevins9679]

Silver Surfer anyone?

[@dhaninguyen2265]

But MatPat, here’s the wrinkle in this theory. The Dweller-In-Darkness is locked in another universe, where Ta Lo is located.

[@tankosaurus]

2:50 I mean, if you build a cage with no doors... how do you get the prisoner into the cage? The only way to get what/who you're trying to lock up into a cage with no doors is by building the cage around the intended prisoner... and it'd be kinda hard to get them to stay in one place long enough to do that

[@thinkinginsideout4053]

Some things might be right, some things might be wrong. When MatPat theorizes, the odds is 50/50 all along!

[@basmaabdallah9077]

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[@captainuh-oh8355]

I don’t think he’s right even half the time

[@euphonius444]

This is a very cool theory. My personal theory is that the rings are sending a message to the dragon's home planet and calling Fin-Fang-Foom. In the comics, the rings are made of the souls of dragons from this planet and the dragon's eyes, during the final battle, flashed quickly of the same color as the rings. I love the content you do mat. I just wanted to share my personal theory here of the rings.

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

This theory is flawed but still nice video

[@wishfuldentochoosensilver3923]

Sooo MatPats original theory?

[@kedrickswain6509]

I have a theory.... Feige waits for MapPat to post, and revises his scripts accordingly.

[@PseudoKirby]

Omg that opening/intro so very precious

[@UR_Bum007]

Of course they aren't getting rid of Ryan Reynolds. We would all riot

[@stormz7282]

Marvel: dang it MatPat's got it right again, move the release day back by a year

[@basmaabdallah9077]

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[@aleeHOSA]

They didn’t get it right, at all.

[@pknut4949]

Lol no

[@chucky7399]

Lol no

[@Blu_king7]

8:20 "Not sure how to end a series? Just end the universe! No more characters means no more stories to tell" Matpat- 2022

[@kibasorata5680]

May: “Walls are not meant to be opened!” Wall keeping Springtrap…trapped: *Am I a joke to you?*

[@AlexDayz]

I blame Phone Dude. If it weren’t for him Springtrap would’ve been left to rot rather than becoming a glitch rabbit that’s also a 50ft trash rabbit (for some reason)

[@Cat_Garfield]

@@AlexDayz gamer moment

[@godiegolem]

What's the reference here?

[@Cat_Garfield]

@@godiegolem fnaf

[@Cat_Garfield]

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[@ryanshaw4623]

Didn’t even think about it, but wouldn’t it be too ambitious for one ambitious movie?

[@nickcalderon2637]

Probably, however this is MatPat we’re talking about.

[@DniAngel3982]

Hey that intro was awesome!

[@grantellsworth1538]

Wrong. That beast is not the dweller in darkness. He is the mega soul sucker. They say this when Shang Chi is drinking in the bar before Wong shows up. I hope the actual dweller in darkness is Annihilus And when Scarlett Witch hears her kids at the end of WandaVision I hope its actually Annihilus doing that because he knows Scarlett Witch is powerful enough to break open the gate

[@cjdude46]

Great points made, especially on the Scarlett Witch connection, but one thing to add. The X-Men comics coming out absolutely reflected the show. Both in team roster and art style the main 616 comics and show were incredibly similar. The comics shown in the video that were meant to highlight differences were decades older than the show, unlike the comics coming out alongside it.

[@basmaabdallah9077]

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[@aaronkay101kinetic]

Okay, about the Rings and why Wong never noticed them... They explain in the movie that the Mandarin's rings were made of a different energy compared to Shang Chi's. That is why Shang Chi's rings are a different color and seem to be more powerful than the Mandarin's.

[@basmaabdallah9077]

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[@mizeri4449]

@@basmaabdallah9077 why? Just why

[@Mr713mexican]

They are the same rings

[@Vince005aran]

Yeah its the same rings. But he mentions that they seem to be from a different universe. I think they were in a sense activated when Shang Chi killed the dweller, that's what Wong and the others felt

[@ej4458]

@@basmaabdallah9077 thanks, now I know.

[@RobertLoyale]

The dweller in darkness was a figurative villain from what his mother said about mastering the darkness and light in his heart. Also for him being scared of conflict. Etc.

[@stefancarew]

I haven't seen anyone reference this as important to the future of the MCU, or at least a nod to what's to come. But I think there were no mistakes when Marvel chose which characters Fortnite could use in their marvel crossover. The final season battle was against Galactus after-all.

[@Nojyar]

you're very late to the video

[@cmgvillager]

X-men are so dope in the comics. I hope we see more comic accurate version of them.

[@Jackson-jn4vf]

Be gone *bot*

[@Raccon_Detective.]

Agreed they did Cyclops so dirty.

[@LukeLovesRose]

I'm sorry, fanboy but Disney/ Marvel will never make a better X-Men movie than Days of Future Past

[@jameskarg3240]

impossible put real actors in those original consumes, average movie goer is just walking back out the door. There is NOTHING good about how the originals looked back tyen.

[@sophiawilson8696]

Accurate?

[@aisuhd]

If the MCU ever end in a very satisfying way, then rewatching it 10 years will be amazing

[@ConnorSimonis]

Endgame was a great ending. It was Iron Man’s story

[@peeperstrem4384]

Ooo- haha just watched the film sorry Matt doesn’t happen yet

[@advitamgames2672]

Merry Christmas Film Theory! I have a Home Alone film theory for you and no it's not Kevin becomes the guy from Saw. At the beginning of the movie Harry is seen disguised as a cop, but where did he get the uniform. If you look at the actual cops in the movie, the uniforms look just like the one Harry wore. So this leads to three possibilities: 1. Harry's a former disgraced cop who now makes a living robbing houses 2. He possibly killed a cop for the uniform 3. Harry expertly made a replica uniform Take your pick. I'd love to see a video of this!

[@EmperorSztoid]

I theorized that Xu Wenwu, masked the intended use of the rings using a spell that gave the rings their blue hue when in his possession. When Shang-Chi started using the rings, the spell wasn't able to hold in his possession and gave off a yellow hue. It's original color. That's why the beacon wasn't reactivated until Shang-Chi started using the rings and they went back to being yellow.

[@pandanganmatiyn1487]

Or maybe due to shang-chi's ancestral lineage in Ta Lo that gives him the connection to the Rings that Wenwu never have. Proly the City of Ta Lo has some connection to the Eternals or something

[@disconnexionsdotcom]

@@pandanganmatiyn1487 I like that theory better.

[@aeashenemby]

They also turned yellow for a moment when his mom temporarily took control of them. Wouldnt thatbe a bit of a hole in your theory?

[@zaihu1278]

@@aeashenemby no that strengthens the theory cuz she uses it so the seal isnt there

[@GambitsEnd]

Galactus is one of those big baddies that has crossed paths with almost every Marvel property that exists, so he can easily fit where ever needed in a story and is impressive enough of a character to play a part - if not be - the cornerstone baddie. Another interesting fact is that CMON (company known for board games that also has a license for Marvel games) has a giant Galactus figure in their next game.

[@FA-iq7yy]

Sick theory!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mischievousmarker6616]

Is no one going to talk about how accurate this theory is now with the reveal of Prof. X in Multiverse of Madness??

[@homunculi0408]

Question: Why would the rings call out to Galactus? are they like actual dinner bells that were just flung into space by Galactus hoping they would land on a planet with sentient creatures that could use them? And why did it take Shang-Chi to use them for the beacon to activate? Was his dad not the right flavour of human for the beacon to turn on?

[@RainOn2SunnyDay]

Maybe what he wanted was his mother's world

[@richardkurniawan6066]

maybe galactus doesnt like oranges? so when it was used by the mandarins he didnt come

[@emmanueljoseph994]

@@richardkurniawan6066 bruh

[@romeoiiihidalgo9516]

I think it's because Shang-Chi is the lineage, remember he is the son of Ying Li, a decendant of Ta Lo, so think that might be the reason, or atleast partial reason why the ring worked with Shang-Shi but not Xu Wenwu his dad, its because like I said Shang-Shi the decendant of Ta Lo, while his father is 100% human.

[@dabloons4days]

i think it activated when shang chi warrior because something about him whether it’s his age or strength or maybe even it’s memories read or something, told the rings that the earth was primed for being eaten. maybe beating the dweller told it that as now earth made creatures strong enough to do stuff like that

[@DragonballBlack]

A lot of Dragon Ball References in this one

[@fachriramadhan1016]

Yes

[@rampager1990]

Quite

[@DestructiveDan1]

Ok an ratio

[@bluefire4922]

Wrong verse

[@lintg4822]

Yep

[@steeljawX]

I remember that old X-Men show. . . .it eventually got to the point where whenever you'd watch it, it was always reruns of the Phoenix or Yukiko arc. That was my last memory of that show, being glad when the episode on that afternoon wasn't from one of those two arcs. I don't remember any other story arcs from that show because of that. I can't even recall a lot of the villains from that show. The only ones I can ever recall seeing was Sabertooth, Mystique, Magneto, and the Sentinels. I'm sure there were others, but I just can't recall them because Fox Kids never showed any episodes beyond those two arcs.

[@TheW1sest]

1:06 No way home: are you sure about that?

[@MystLunarabne]

2:52 For argument's sake I'm just gonna say that's because doors are also easier to close than walls, because they can actually be closed. Logically it does seem to be easier to trap something in a room by just quickly pushing a door closed, rather than asking it to politely stand still while you build a whole wall. Obviously, there's still some flaws with that in certain contexts of thing being sealed e.g when the door is actually built around them rather than just shut on them. And even in the contexts where it makes sense it still usually leaves the question of "Ok, but now the door's closed you could've still built a wall or even walls in front of it right?" But at least there are some somewhat decent arguments to be made.

[@mc-rn8ro]

I'm not gonna make a Cask of Amontillado joke...I'm not gonna make a Cask of Amontillado joke...

[@loganshaw9198]

What if the wall closes like a door to be a wall again.

[@loganshaw9198]

When is a door not a door? when it is a wall.

[@nikkafrog]

Thats assuming the door was already there to begin with. If they have to build it, it takes more time to build a door than a wall. But usually in stories to explain why, they tend to give an answer of "they were buying time to learn how to truly defeat it " of making the item or person still accessible

[@fyshman152]

My bet is they intended to build a wall after they close the door, but then think “You know what, that’s probably good enough.” and just left it like a rough draft of an essay.

[@ZombieFarmboy666]

All of MatPat’s incorrect theories are actually correct in alternate timelines.

[@basmaabdallah9077]

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[@Coolsomeone234]

There are other timelines?

[@thetoybox4333]

Yes!

[@JackTulsen77]

How many did you see? 14,000,605. How many was MatPat right? All of them... But one... This one. He's wrong in this future, but all the other ones. He's dead on right.

[@thenerdtheorists705]

There’s definitely supposed pre vis leaks of prof x fighting wanda/ The Scarlet Witch and whatnot but I don’t think X-men 97 connects to Doctor strange in the multiverse of madness, if anything “what if” and the older Xmen movies will but it’s still a really fun theory!

[@cheddar3117]

This aged well

[@justcaustin]

Trevor had some of the funniest scenes in the movie. "If they could teach the monkeys to act that brilliantly, just imagine what I could bring to the world"

[@basmaabdallah9077]

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[@mohitwason1865]

14:25 10-2= Less than 10 Wish my Math was this good.

[@nabilabdi9265]

Love the little Zeno floating in the aftermath of the destroyed universe

[@flyingsheep1539]

I remember going to one of Stan Lee's last con talk, and he did a Q&A. But, before he came out, his assistant talked a bit before and actually revealed to the audience that Marvel had acquired the rights to the X-Men, this was before Endgame came out.

[@Jackson-jn4vf]

Do you have a theory? That’s my secret, Wong, *im always theorizing*

[@Jackson-jn4vf]

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[@theultimategod9786]

@@Jackson-jn4vf just report them

[@gokhan4461]

Okay, I hear you, but hear me out... This is a cool theory but we know Kevin Feige likes to keep it simple, so I think we'll get Galactus with a little simplified storyline. Like how Tony Stark built Ultron instead of Hank Pym, or how the origins of a lot of characters' powers are changed to be explained with an interaction with the infinity stones now. I think he'll just be a celestial that doesn't like other celestials' ways. Or maybe he "merged" with a celestial right before the celestial was born and destroyed his planet, so now he devours planets to stop celestials from being born etc. (just like how he merged with the sentience of the universe) I'm just spitballing here, but I think if they made Ego a celestial, making Galactus a celestial as well to simplify his backstory for the general audience makes sense. But I thought of Galactus as well when they said the rings started a beacon. (I watched the movie after I watched Eternals so I knew they didn't belong to them.) I think they might belong to one of Galactus' old heralds, like Air-Walker. He's a good candidate because he's from Xandar which is already established in the MCU, his powers are vague enough that they could be bent to the powers of the rings, he doesn't already have an iconic object like Silver Surfer's board or Firelord's staff, and I don't think he's a popular enough character to make people mad just because he's killed off in the past. (That one Air-Walker fan reading this, I'm sorry, but come on.) Plus, the explanation for his powers are quite similar to how Eternals' powers are explained in the movie (that's true for most heralds I believe), which would tie in nicely with making Galactus a Celestial (just a copy-paste from marvel fandom .com because I'm lazy); _"The original Air-Walker possessed the vast cosmic power that Galactus granted to all of his heralds upon their initiation. His body was restructured to be a living battery of cosmic energy, the Air-Walker could utilize cosmic power for a variety of effects: heat, concussive force, magnetism, electricity, etc. Unlike most of the other heralds, the Air-Walker utilized this cosmic energy without an accompanying visible manifestation (such as Firelord's "cosmic flame")."_ Also, I believe Air-Walker was featured in a Marvel game recently, Marvel Contest of Champions. They sometimes introduce comic book versions of some characters to mobile games like Contest of Champions and Marvel Future Fight before they're introduced in the movies. So maybe there's something to that as well.

[@gokhan4461]

This just popped into my mind... Now that's kind of a separate theory, but, if they apply how Air-Walker was created to Eternals, I think that would solve some issues I had with them. Like, if Eternals are robots, how can Thanos and Starfox be brothers? Or, why was Sprite created as a child in the first place? Why were they given emotions and personalities? If they were " *restructured* to be a living battery of cosmic energy" instead of being *created* as robots, I think that would answer a lot of those questions. Maybe Celestials came to Titan and created a bunch of robots for themselves? And that could explain why Titan was weird like that and how it was destroyed, why Thanos didn't just double the resources, and he destroyed half of the population instead, etc.

[@rinzzler366]

Peter quill ends up being galactus, Sincerely, A time traveler.

[@drmeduimant5066]

@@rinzzler366 so Lego Movie 2?

[@C4eam]

Cool I guess

[@alucardsantradideus267]

The reason for people to seal evil creatures behind a cell with a door is bacause they build the cell first then place the monster in, they can't place the monster in if every wall is closed now can't they? Besides at least people try to open the door, it takes some time to solve whatever Millennium Puzzle they placed on it, it's more effective than a guy getting wise and just blowing up one of the walls.

[@purehyper124]

2:49 Mave it a door because they build it then have to get the dweller in darkness inside and close the door to seal it. Other wise you have to put it in than build the wall.

[@watermeloncholy789]

You should do a Gravity Rush/ Gravity Rush 2 theory on whether or bot the city on the world pillar would be able to support itself with the amount of space given, and whether the city would stay upright

[@davidteres9463]

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[@QuantumBoogaloo]

I’m commenting just cuz I feel bad you got hit with 5 bots

[@watermeloncholy789]

@@destroyerz123 thanks

[@xTriniT]

This movie is gonna be such a nostalgia trip for me. Very excited!

[@Sebastian-gq3ib]

Does anyone remember fighting galactus in lego marvel 1? Ahh the good old days

[@aidanbest4761]

Just came back to this after seeing dr strange, you might actually be correct on this

[@ahmetkurum4114]

We were overdo for an incorrect but entertaining MCU theory. Thanks Matt.

[@spamuel98]

It's so cool that Film Theory has enough episodes for a real Marvel style flipbook opening. Also, that wasn't really a door, it didn't have hinges or a handle, it technically WAS a wall, made out of dragon scales. And I would love to see what could come out if Disney ever purchased the rights to the Warcraft franchise.

[@ChenTheGuy]

JUST WATCHED IT WAS SO AMAZING

[@domigurinaite1366]

Hey mat pat I have a theary about alvin What if there was 4 brothers but alvin ate One and simon as well as theadore can't tell on alvin and they plan to eat dave

[@notnotjay]

4:47 that's vilgax omg Ben 10 crossover with Marvel official

[@milomoon06]

Hey MatPat and theorists, I’d like to point out that you said the upcoming X-Men ‘97 was the only Fox Marvel property to be announced, but an MCU Fantastic 4 was actually announced a while ago. Great theory, and keep up the great work!

[@basmaabdallah9077]

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[@OldManTastic]

He meant the only announcement fir Disney + day.

[@BobaBushido]

I didn't know the xmen cartoon was a fox property bc I remember watching it on DisneyXD as a kid

[@jacksimon4588]

zeno and ssg reference? respect matpat, respect

[@MIGHTYBOOSCH198]

I'm surprised matpst didn't suggest that maybe the dragon thing wasn't the dweller in darkness but a representation or minion of his. Like matpat points out the dweller is more of an octopus. Maybe he sent the dragon to clear the way because for all his power he's not built for combat, he sends a big dragon-thing to clear the path for him.

[@padpuff3209]

Off topic but I love how you still say "that's just a theory... A FILM/GAME theory!". Makes my old adult heart giggle in childhood

[@basmaabdallah9077]

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[@afropenguin]

I think something you over looked, is that producers at marvel had seid they don't want to do live action Xmen because it will extend the MCU's life by 10 years

[@basmaabdallah9077]

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[@SwiftestScout]

that makes 0 sense. Xmen are coming. Just not until at least 2023/4

[@JoshuaRodriguezReal]

I think Matpat forgot the fact that the Fantastic Four are already getting an MCU film which they said in one of their disney plus things

[@kedsked9162]

I like this theory I extremely like the idea of galactus returning because in fantastic 4 rise of the silver surfer they don't show his face they only show the portal he's coming through but if they brung him back for no way home I'd at least expect them to show his face if not his full body and since they are bringing multiverses together galactus has to be in one of those!

[@dabbigguu1154]

Matpat marking a marvel theory is just the best 10 to 20 minutes of my life

[@MbitaChizi]

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[@hottrin6103]

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