FILMING FAKE CAR SCENES, CAMERA TRICKS LIKE HOLLYWOOD (Poor Man's Process)

[@krabf_]

“The people who are doing less filmmaking have a nicer place around them.” True.

[@RafaelGringo]

Shots fired there

[@davewerner7609]

Yup, pretty much most youtubers talking about filmmaking rather than actually filmmaking. So well said.

[@unclejezza]

I worked on Madmen (briefly). The car scenes were intentionality lo-fi so as to mirror films of the day

[@markbone]

Makes sense now!

[@jbthementor4905]

You’re unbelievable Mark. Watching your content is like attending a university. I’m so inspired with your level of mastery.

[@markbone]

Thanks man!!! The Bone Institute of Film Studies

[@ienpassi]

You express my filling and thought...

[@captainxbengex007]

Hot tip When Mark says I shouldn't reccomend this on KZbin its a good shot idea. Not speaking from experience... But having the low wheel turning shot is super nice and provides an angle that catches most peoples attention.

[@Elliander]

A useful tip with this projection technique (if you don't have a massive projection wall many meters from your car, like they do in the big features) is to also throw the projector focus slightly out -- if the projected image is slightly soft it'll help you use wider lenses closer to the subject and still sell depth in the background. Awesome tutorial Mark with top results. Thanks for sharing.

[@markbone]

Great tip!!

[@ticklesgateproductions]

That's really smart

[@firasmojbani8029]

one of the few KZbinrs who actually film things other than themselves. keep it up

[@markbone]

Lol thanks man!

[@AndresArosemena]

excellent tips Mark, specially the one about using a longer lens, that helps A LOT hiding the fact that it's just a projector.

[@markbone]

Long lenses hide lots of mistakes

[@apinkstarrjoint]

Just wow!!! I think I’ve said it before, but your channel is such a gem. I love how you show us how to do the technical stuff that’ll add value to our work. 😃

[@markbone]

🙏🏻

[@forewarnedfilm]

Some of the best Poor Man’s Process footage I’ve seen - brilliant work!

[@markbone]

Thanks man!

[@TourismandTravel]

I almost felt the day was wasted until I watched this video... Thank you for TEACHING ME. Coach Brian here

[@markbone]

THANKS COACH BRIAN!

[@TheOrlandoGuy]

Some of the driving scenes in the Bourne movies were epic. Especially the car crash scenes. The impact sequences were visceral.

[@markbone]

So insane!

[@subcinctus]

truly amazing and well demonstrated, I hope creators like you never feel the burden to cause you to stop this work. (again, your Rescata project is amazing.)

[@markbone]

Thank you!! Balancing film and KZbin takes work!!

[@Skanda1111]

The final edit looked so authentic. Beautiful.

[@alecmuellervisuals61]

Such an incredibly helpful video Mark! I thought this was impossible to pull off on a small budget! Looking forward to trying this out at some point. You ROCK

[@markbone]

Go shoot some! It's so fun

[@xxlaumic]

@@markbone What about shooting it during the day? Any advice? Thanks man, this video is so helpful

[@a.gtheunique5324]

Your videos are incredible dawg! Please keep posting these so I can continue to soak up all that juicy knowledge you’re dropping 🔥

[@markbone]

will do!

[@ZPHammill]

Thank you for simplifying and demystifying this. Great video!

[@markbone]

Zach Hammill 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@brunobilandzija1823]

Probably the most complete, but still concise, tutorial on this subject. Awesome, thank you!🍀

[@markbone]

🙏🏻♥️

[@risbill1]

I have used this technique in photography for many years. Using a projector in this way has been around for a long time andnd now we see the evolution of this process in the mandalorian.

[@markbone]

What is your favourite driving scene in a movie?? (I can't wait for the scenes in the new Bond)

[@MoCo_Filmmaker]

Baby Driver opening and pretty much any of the Driving scenes in Drive.

[@Baxman51]

Any in Blade runner 2049. Just the reflections of the environment in the car and on the glass are so cool

[@AndresArosemena]

Mad Max Fury Road, the whole movie is a big driving scene haha,

[@chikitwong9256]

Interstellar - Christopher Nolan - Cornfield Drone Chase Scene

[@WhenWillILearn]

The naked gun titles 😂

[@hannahwerner2249]

THANK YOU for being so informative and filling the entire video with actual helpful information and not fluff. This was such a great video!

[@TeppoHaapoja]

Always wondered how people do this! Mark you are a genious.

[@markbone]

Thanks homie!!

[@zizartfilm]

Mark i learn a lot from you thanks

[@markbone]

rad!!

[@jcon654]

This was so unbelievably inspiring. Thank you a trillion times!!!

[@mbusoguma5504]

Extremely enjoyable; extremely useful. Thank you, Mark

[@markbone]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@ALLTHINGSCINEMA24]

Facts about the youtubers vs. Filmmakers world

[@NicolasWaldvogel]

Nice work Mark! I feel the frontal closeups at 3.43 looked much more authentic than the side shots. Reason for this being the side shots, the actor seems to be ever so slightly too lit compared to the plate outside. When you're driving through a city at night, the outside should usually be brighter than the inside of the car or at least be on the same level. Also the color temperature seems too cold compared to the mostly warm sodium vapor of the bg plate. Just my two cents of things to improve. Love your channel mate!

[@markbone]

It’s true’ the LED’s could have been warmer but we were trying to play them off as headlights of other cars for the most part

[@ticklesgateproductions]

Great video! This was very helpful and I loved your different tips and tricks like the long lenses and camera shake.

[@ItsVanAken]

I loved this tip! It’s already got me thinking of implementing Poor Man’s Process into future shoots.

[@markbone]

Do it!!

[@c7dermatome]

Might be poor man's process but result looks awesome! well done and thankyou for such an informative video

[@chrisparker5372]

Brilliant! And synchronocity should surely be a word. I think it is, as of about Feb 25, 2020.

[@AmritaBhortake]

This was such a helpful video! Thanks for these tips, Mark. Love that beautifully lit scene that you recorded.

[@markbone]

Thank you!!!

[@ChristianLamptey]

This is amazing! I actually learnt something new in this video! Thanks Mark

[@markbone]

That’s the goal!!

[@markbone]

Yes! That’s the goal!

[@ДенисГладков-я7ъ]

That's what a definition of quality content is

[@markbone]

Thank you!

[@BooyaJoe]

Awesome and well thought out and executed tutorial. Thank you for sharing!

[@markbone]

THANKS!!

[@KiblerDesign]

Isn't the way they shot it in Mad Men intentional to give it a vintage feel?

[@RafaelGringo]

I'm not sure, but that particular detail always bugged me in the show. All the production design was so rich, I don't see why they would screw up things in that car scenes. So I guess that was probably intentional indeed.

[@mindmeldlearning8497]

i was gonna comment that same thing, it is def a nod to that era of effects back then... actually as i write this if it truly was green screen then they were just cheap cuz in that era it would have been a screen and projector, projecting the image rather than a green screen so maybe they were just cheap

[@jdsmedia]

thats what i thought.

[@nwb741]

I thought so too. I think those guys knew what they were doing on Mad Men, 99% of people won't notice it wasn't filmed on the road, but it gives 100% of people the vintage feel

[@droidbait8708]

Yeah, I think you're right.

[@FilmSpook]

Excellent work, much appreciated, brother!

[@mitsystearman1461]

I’ve always wondered how these videos were made of fake car driving! So thank you for showing us!

[@mythologycreativemedia7454]

Love this! I’m due to attempt a “poor mans” in the coming months.....this was so helpful thanks Mark 😎

[@mambaman3632]

Mark, you're a great instructor! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@hippawable]

Such great information. It’s insane

[@kilig5174]

Brilliant video - thanks for sharing your knowledge Mark. The footage looks so good! And dropping the truth bombs there with the "people who are doing less film-making have a nicer space around them"! ; )

[@markbone]

🤫

[@judichristopher4604]

LIGHTING is EVERYTHING.... (I know background Music is King too) Can't live without either one of them... I am such a chicken.... that when I'm watching a Scary Movie... if something is about to happen. I MUTE it.... NO Scary Music... then I'm not scared... Says me with my eyes closed too BAHAHAHA

[@jasonapple6141]

That camera vibration tip is gold.

[@StephenHowson]

Enjoyed this, and got myself one of those lights, cheers

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[@samsterling4217]

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[@fitlovepower661]

Really helpful vid Mark thanks for this info. Learned some new film/on set terms as well.

[@RichRayBeatsnFilms]

You always come with the good tips Mark 👍🏾

[@markbone]

Thank you!!

[@EloquentVisions]

Looks amazing dude, great job! I'll definitely have to try out this method at some point.

[@sidewayz24]

Thank you Mark. I watch your videos then teach the guys at the studio 🙂

[@markbone]

ha! Nice!

[@elginrebucas5165]

Ugh this was great! I’m going to shoot a short film so glad I found this thank you!

[@simonbaigrie2485]

Great tips Mark! Very handy video!

[@markbone]

thanks man!

[@live4christ297]

Master Bone! 🔥 It looks just like a blockbuster.

[@markbone]

hope so! haha

[@KandidReviews]

these are brilliant and useful tips. thank you so much!

[@markbone]

Kandid Reviews thank you!!

[@WhenWillILearn]

I thought that the effect in Madmen was intentional. It looked like the rear projection from films in the 60s. Great video

[@markbone]

Maybe it was 🤷🏻‍♂️ still an amazing TV show!

[@KiblerDesign]

That's what I was thinking. Maybe he's too young to realize it ha ha

[@user-mc9tp1we1i]

Michael Kibler too young? What does that have anything to do with this?

[@WhenWillILearn]

@@user-mc9tp1we1i I was thinking that, I'm pretty sure Mark's the same age as me 😂

[@KiblerDesign]

@@user-mc9tp1we1i Back in the day, the 'Poor man process' was a common way of doing it. If you weren't around or haven't seen a lot of old movies you may not realize how it looked. And in turn may not realize how intentionally they were trying to recreate this look in a show like Madmen.

[@kentjensen4504]

Another fantastic video. Question. With these projectors, or if using a large monitor for close up rear projection, do we have to worry about the projected video’s frame rate or frequency matching the frame rate of the camera filming the projected background, say 24 fps?

[@markbone]

That’s a real good question! I might have to get back to you about that because it wasn’t something I even thought about when filming this scene. (It might be worth some tests!)

[@kentjensen4504]

@@markbone Very cool. And thanks for the reply.

[@charlesedmundadams5238]

Tried this approach, and ran into the hiccup of the projector just not being bright enough to achieve a believable look. I could hear Mark's words in my head, "Test the set up before you actually go out and film for the project"; our production was tight and our deadline to shoot came quickly, giving us little time for camera prep. The car footage turned into a multi day workload rottoscoping all of our car footage to save the scene we shot & something of a post production hell. Definitely test & your projector before you show up on set! Also recommend bringing a green screen as a back up on set just and case (we tried project a green screen when the footage didn't show up bright enough.. this also didn't work)

[@markbone]

Yeah a day of testing goes a long way!

[@judichristopher4604]

EXCELLENT VIDEO I agree 100% ... I was on a low budget film back in 2002 (don't laugh)... Yes we were using REEL FILM... but we did have "Push Button" cheap light (that you might use in a closet) ... put in the Actor's lap... behind their head etc... I like Your little light better.

[@plattinummedia]

Love your work Mark!

[@markbone]

Thanks man!

[@MaiElizabeth]

Wowwwwww... It looks legit.. never thought of that kinda idea...

[@markbone]

:)

[@genesung5589]

Awesome breakdown! Quick question. Did you just hand hold the camera while you were leaning on the car filming? Thanks!

[@markbone]

yeah, I put my elbows on the hood

[@DLivingston]

This is an awesome video. Hopefully, someday I get to a point where I can try this all out.

[@davinfitch]

lol - you're not wrong about youtube setups. I love seeing... camera comparison videos... and not say... filmmaking.

[@markbone]

😂😂😂

[@bjdent]

mark bone is the goat. we're watching history in the making.

[@bobdeclor528]

Props for leaving the time start in the video!

[@VivienOge]

This is gold. Thank you

[@markbone]

Thank you!!

[@sethwilliams43]

Great info! Thanks for this!

[@martinlafleurjr2183]

Man this was awesome 👏…. Thanks mark

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Hey man, love this video. I'm preparing to give this method a go and am trying to figure out how to get sharper bokeh from the projected image. They tend to come out quite soft but I wonder if it's simply a case of projector brightness or back projection material. What are your thoughts?

[@markbone]

It mostly will have to do with the lens and f-stop that you choose, so if you want more of the BG in focus then shoot on the wider end of a zoom lens and shoot above f5 and also bring the projector in closer. Materials won't really matter. make sure your projector lens is also in focus

[@JoshuaMKerr]

@@markbone I can get the size of the bokeh and depth of field fine but just not the clarity of bokeh on specular highlights. I can see this is also the case in your video when you compare the real car shots and fake backdrop.

[@jlippencott1]

Adding another projection (reflected off the windshield from above) of the overhead street lights going by would really help the illusion.

[@markbone]

You’re right!

[@crazevisuals86]

Never thought I'd get sick of hearing the word "process"! Thanks for that.

[@markbone]

😂

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[@roehaus1]

Great video... but wouldn't you run into problems using rear screen projection for daytime scenes?

[@RagionamentiFinanziari]

I prob won't ever have to shoot a shot like this, but the technicalities were really interesting. Lot's going on to make a scene like that go smoothless, and esp w a low budget, there's a lot to learn.

[@GlennHanns]

Nice! Try lowering your contrast inside the car so that it balances better with the projection once graded.

[@banzai412]

Awesome video - thanks a lot. What kind of filter did you use on the sigma glass? Strong Tiffen Pro Mist?

[@hardi_mue]

To make the process of moving the projection footage easier and less frustrating, it would be a lot more straight forward just to use a 360 cam and play it back in a 360 player so you actually cannot notice on set that a perspective of your background footage is missing. Just a thought, didn't actually try it and there might be some flaws, I just didn't consider ^^

[@markbone]

Great idea! You should try it and post the results!

[@rouztv773]

I love this channel already. Question- Would this work for a daytime shoot?

[@markbone]

No, very unlikely because you won’t see the screen

[@iamtheblackwizard914]

Hey, thank you for your advices! Going to film a poor mans process myself soon. Any tipps on how big the projection screen should be?

[@markbone]

The bigger the easier it is to film but you gotta just work on the distance in order for objects not to feel too large

[@iamtheblackwizard914]

@@markbone thanks mark, appreciate that!

[@ectoproductions]

I've been wanting to try this for a while, but never have had the time or the people to do anything like it, but I want to try soon!

[@markbone]

You should totally try it!

[@chicobraz4335]

cool!! would 720p or hd be enough , or 4k> also short or long throw , does it matter , which did you use here?

[@AutoFOCUSED.]

This is incredible man. Honestly, this looked better than some Hollywood film driving scenes I've seen. Wow.

[@markbone]

Thanks man!!

[@AutoFOCUSED.]

@@markbone No problem. I just got myself a BMPCC 4K and a Smallrig rig, top handle, SSD mount, follow focus, etc to try my hand at film (my focus is usually photography.) I've spent A LOT of time watching your videos lately to try to absorb as much as I can. You're a beast! Thanks again. Keep making great content for us please?

[@pureangeles]

AutoFOCUSED which follow focus do you have? Do you also have a gimbal? I have almost the same set up but can’t decide on my gimbal

[@AutoFOCUSED.]

@@pureangeles I just got my Tilta Mini Follow Focus yesterday. If you remove the hard stops, it's great. Been playing around with it all day yesterday and today. And from the research i've done I'd recommend the Weebill S or Moza Air 2.

[@AutoFOCUSED.]

@@pureangeles don't have a gimbal yet.

[@heinpz3518]

Wow that was so interesting! I didn't think it was that accessible to film a car scene! Thank you! I'm wondering if there is a specific reason why you shot it outside or could have it been done in a dark garage for example? Many thanks Mark :)

[@markbone]

It was just the location we had available

[@Lionrisesproductions]

This is quality stuff. I appreciate this.

[@markbone]

Thank you!!

[@itymapp363]

Great Video! I’m purchasing the equipment and put it to use.

[@markbone]

Yeas!!!

[@PaulRichards78]

So cool Can be used in lots of scenarios I believe

[@dimacrossfire]

wow that Falcon light.. wow i need now

[@ankitmehrotraindia]

Terrific tutorial!

[@futuredave2]

What a great tutorial! Thx for this!

[@briang6397]

You should make a mini series of you breaking down the cinematography in famous movies! I’d love to see your opinion on Parasite and other big productions. Also, where can we watch your documentaries?

[@markbone]

Markbone.com

[@sannansaleh_]

damn. this was GOLD! thank you!

[@markbone]

🙏🏻

[@ienpassi]

Love your contant you below my mind. Thanks

[@markbone]

thank you!

[@DodaGarcia]

Wow, the effect in Mad Men was obviously intentionally done that way to pay homage to the films of the era where the series takes place. Come on, man.

[@apanpatv]

Lol

[@annaisokay8]

I think the true poor mans way of filming driving might just be filming driving 😂

[@davidsklubal]

Great tips Mark, thank you!

[@markbone]

glad you liked it! thanks man

[@ChocoLater1]

No matter how perfect you set up your projection and lighting if movement of camera (up & down ) is not synced with natural car movements (up & down) it will give that impression of being in a studio.

[@markbone]

💯

[@RaphBiss]

Amazing, thank you! - Where can we watch the final film?

[@Apockx]

Glorious!

[@blakes5840]

Earned my sub! Well done sir!!🙏

[@pratikgoud1]

Thanks, I learned something new today...

[@markbone]

very welcome :)

[@reimereason]

Holy smokes. Thank you for this.

[@speakea_sy5509]

A perfect guide that helped me finish my third year at film school 🏫