WHAT WE'RE LEARNING FROM DISNEY’S ANIMATORS | Film Threat Rants

[@brickgarden]

I would be no where without the things I learned from my grandparents...my grandmother taught me to sew, knit, cook, can, and quilt just as my grandfather taught me to fish, garden, and ride a horse. My Mom taught me how to wear makeup, repair a computer (she's in IT), and Dad taught me how to shoot a rifle and drive a car. Overall I was taught many, many values and life lessons that I plan on passing on to my own kids. Now imagine if I didn't take any of those lessons because I already knew everything and could obviously do better even with 0 experience. It's a shame that learning from our elders is a dying art form. Disney's 100th anniversary movie should be a reflection of how the company has grown over the past 100 years, and this movie seems to have thrown everything out of the window and gone back to amateur level.

[@MephiticMiasma]

Old people love to tell the same stories over and over and over.... Young children love to hear the same stories over and over and over... hmm... 🤔

[@NeverForget1776]

This woke ideology that kids have been indoctrinated with in public education and more so in college, is very much like Maos great leap forward. Mao promoted 3 things, the hatred/dislike of old things, traditions, the elderly and history. Millineals and younger who are indoctrinated see the elderly as a problem

[@AverageJoe483]

You know if Disney wanted to do a tribute to 100 years they should have made a” cartoon” version of a man named Walt who overcame and built something special for others !

[@robch4414]

"of a MAN.."??????? A male hero?????????????? Well, that's never going to happen at Disney nowadays, is it?

[@NIXN636]

You forgot the most important thing, he's a white guy from early 1900s. At this point if Disney fully collapse they would turn around and say Walt Disney deserves to be cancelled.

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

They made a Walt biopic. It was crap. Walt Before Mickey, I think it was called. It has the guy from Napoleon Dynamite.

[@xgray2012]

Yeah.

[@xgray2012]

​@@NIXN636That's sad.

[@lance134679]

Chris and Alan, make sure your online security is up to snuff. If you don't have an expert on staff, hire someone. It will be worth it. 👍

[@bgarri8001]

"Can we get a woman to run this place?" What kind of an adult would just ask something so frivolous and vapid, as if they were nine years old at show and tell, during a serious business meeting? I guess people like that are thinking, "HOPEFULLY JUST MAYBE THIS will be the one that makes me go VIRAL!" Or, "I'm just going to virtue signal until my ego is no longer starved of attention ."

[@alejandrotorresriquelme8714]

I had a coworker that has the same vibe, and got sick of drinking with her because she always went to this same rant over and over again

[@iro6758]

She should've been treated equally, and been fired immediately for blatantly promoting sexism and causing a toxic work environment.

[@alejandrotorresriquelme8714]

@@iro6758 use the last jedi quote: Let it die, kill it if you have to

[@bgarri8001]

@@alejandrotorresriquelme8714 I just keep thinking of Bill Paxton from Aliens. "Why don't you put her in charge!!??"

[@alejandrotorresriquelme8714]

@@bgarri8001 I will let them play with the big toys destroying them, hopefully one day they'll realize that nobody wants them.

[@foursamm]

So just to summarize, Disney's corporate culture is like most universities. Got it.

[@Attmay]

In other words, a degenerate anti-culture.

[@anthonybrett]

“It was not you who ate the idea, but the idea that ate you.” ― Fyodor Dostoevsky Ideology devours all.

[@cruisinusa5110]

Indeed, check boxes have supplanted talent. Fact.

[@matthewronsson]

Asking for receipts for whistleblowers is asinine. The Media used to adamantly respect and protect sources. To demand that these people, who would face hardships if their names got out, should be beneath anyone even associated with any media outlet, except those working as yellow "journalists" & including independent contractors for the media. The person reporting these insider details is the one who puts their reputation, their credibility -which is a currency in reporting - on the line. Chris has more than sufficient credibility with decades of experience as a subject matter expert to carry that weight.

[@WildZephyr]

Yeah, they were specifically asking for that because they knew it was impossible and if they somehow got something like paystubs, these 'journalists' would doxx the sources instantly. We all know it.

[@outerlast]

we should ask back, get the names of those who're asking and the companies they work for. that way, people know who can be trusted and the media can taste their own medicine when potential whistleblowers refuse them.

[@hope-cat4894]

Knowing how the media likes to write hitpieces at the behest of companies, the hawks tied to Disney are just itching to know who snitched on their bad workplace habits. "Snitches get stitches and wind up in ditches."

[@christophertaylor9100]

I don't think its too unthinkable; this is a story they want to report on but feel they cannot just go on the word of a podcaster. Alternatively though, its a much darker reason: they want to see who this is and get word to Disney.

[@Attmay]

Media oligopolies fetishized blowing the whistle on companies until somebody did it to them.

[@NuttySquirrel_8]

Guys, this is excellent journalism. I'm so glad I discovered this channel. Thank you!

[@mxvega1097]

In my work environment, DEI stuff has just taken a knock and been set back a bit. The level of vitriol and resentment from the true believers is really something to behold. Don't underestimate how nasty the flipside of sanctimony is. Dictatorial little commissars can be vicious when scorned.

[@williampearson6299]

Woke isn't the issue. DCEU is not even woke but Disney made more money than them. DCEU just crashed right out the gate so it's not about wokism. Try again.

[@reginaldforthright805]

@@williampearson6299 haha. Have a little cry for the death of wokism, billy.

[@drdoom246]

​@@williampearson6299You sound like a woke Disney shill.

[@FuLengLives]

​@@williampearson6299look at the loyal little commissar here.

[@NeverForget1776]

​@williampearson6299 are you sure you replied to the right comment because what you wrote doesn't address anything in the comment you replied to

[@sherpashmo7098]

“This is not just happening in Disney…” -Alan ….. you are absolutely correct. It’s happening at most jobs everywhere……. For instance I haveI DEI workshop Monday morning.

[@70smusicfanatic34]

Call in sick. Hopefully you laid the groundwork for that this past week by coughing loudly and acting lethargic around the office. Hell - say that you caught covid.

[@slicedtopieces]

Looking forward to a future where whether by choice or by being forced out, we're all sole proprietors. Big organisations increasingly hollowed out and top heavy but unable to attract talent due to internal political/morality policing.

[@robch4414]

When a creative business hires for quotas rather than talent, however few DEI boxes that talent may tick, it's doomed.

[@Attmay]

We are tired of depicting the oppressor classes as anything other than oppressor classes.

[@cxa011500]

​@@AttmayThere isn't an "oppressor class." There are only individuals committing moral or immoral acts. Collective guilt is as irrational as any racist or sexist ideology.

[@Attmay]

That sounds just like what a member of one or more of the oppressor classes and a supporter of their oppression would say. Defining the oppressor classes out of existence is an oppressor class tactic to further the oppression of those they oppress.

[@LeXofLeviafan]

​@@Attmay "Tell me you're a crazed cultist without telling me you're a crazed cultist"

[@carlovlp]

I've worked in the animation/sfx industry for many years,and I had many friends working in Pixar in top positions. They all left soon after John Lasseter was dismissed. He he's a great guy and Pixar was Steve Jobs jewel of the crown. It was a wonderful studio to work for with such awesome talented people.. Such a shame.. Disney bloated budgets make me think that something not good it's going on there. Always been a kind of weird corporation IMMO..

[@slicedtopieces]

Bruh, why you gotta take it there? 😅 (Also, I agree about what Pixar used to be. Utter shame what it's become in all honesty. I still love pulling old Pixar films out and going through the special features to see what the company was like even up less than 10 years ago.)

[@Blackshadow164]

Are your co-workers pretty?

[@Attmay]

There will be accountability for this warlock hunt against men.

[@Attmay]

That question is sexual harassment. At least regarding female employees.

[@Blackshadow164]

@@Attmay I’m canceled?

[@JWS1313]

A good journalist does not give up their sources.

[@jneilson7568]

Exactly. Even J Jonah Jameson wouldn't give up Peter Parker!

[@Bob.martens]

Nor does a bad one.

[@Blisterdude123]

A good journalist 'should' ask for citation, proof of claims though. It's called due diligence. Verification of information, before you just report any old wild claims. Like that's pretty basic, make a claim and back it up, if you want to be taken seriously. Otherwise what, you're saying it's better journalism to make any wild claims you want and never provide any evidence at all? And take them as true? Sources should be protected, if the situation is such that is required, but the trade-off for that will always be the credibility of what you say, because in effect you're asking people to take your word for it. And the worth of your word is entirely subjective.

[@iro6758]

​@@Blisterdude123These companies have reported on scoops from other companies _for decades._ "According to a report from:" There's a very obvious reason that they've inverted their motis operandi for this, specific, moment - in such a belligerent manner.

[@Blisterdude123]

@@iro6758 I don't disagree, but this is what I struggle with. Are we saying it's bad when they do it but good when Chris does it then? Is it okay to do bad journalism because other journalists do bad journalism? Shouldn't we be expecting better rather than lowering the bar? Film Threat seem to be suggesting they're offering a better alternative, while using exactly the same tactics you've correctly cited as bad journalism. But people here are applauding them for it.

[@The3rdTurd]

"Activist" types have infiltrated all aspects of entertainment, sadly (it has become noticeable in gaming as well)... so it seems to be checkmate all around. We're learning the hard way that a certain level of gatekeeping is a good thing.

[@williampearson6299]

DCEU crashed harder than Disney, it's not about "woke" that's killing Disney, the production line is corrupt. They want to make money and it's not about the stories anymore

[@jenniferst.george810]

Indeed. I have parked my wallet with any western entertainment. I do plan on opening it up for both Godzilla and the boy and the heron in the next two weeks.

[@romanafuldher7924]

"(it has become noticeable in gaming as well)" you should look at Gamergate, which happened back in 2014, where gamers first noticed how leftwing politics and activism started to encroach in the gaming industry. This was before anything woke even touched Triple A games, now it has infested every corner of video games.

[@SamtheBravesFan]

Gatekeeping on the company's end, yes. Our end, no.

[@Elba.Ginon93]

​@@romanafuldher7924yeah, but those were game reviewers and journalists nowadays they are in site, reason why all modern games are poorly made on top of beibg woke.

[@shteebo]

"Please send us your source's personal financial information." LOL, unbelievable.

[@ExProductions95]

Lol, LMAO even

[@thattinawoman5119]

I worked for a known global company that turned woke in exactly the way you described. People got fired for saying the "wrong" thing publicly and a lot of jobs got outsourced because those folks would do as they are told. I was a 10+ year veteran and I got out as fast as I could after that, along with others of talent. IMO Disney has to be destroyed in order to save it, much like my other company. I landed at startup based in another country just so I could be free to speak my mind...

[@Mereologist]

The ONLY policy you are not permitted to question in the billion dollar company that employs me is the diversity policy. To question any aspect of it, no matter how rationally, is an offense that gets you punished.

[@iro6758]

Media asking for pay stubs proves that they don't respect sources, or journalism as a profession. You should be telling us who those malicious and/or incompetent people are. They clearly don't need or deserve protection, and "the public deserves to know".

[@AverageJoe483]

The media is only fine with anonymous sources if it’s against anything they deem right wing . Then it’s fair game !

[@Experiment_6_2_6]

These trades are all in bed with Disney. That info would have been straight to Disney corporate.

[@markiangooley]

They want to see these people destroyed. These journalists would be happier serving a dictator and ensuring that his opponents are punished, but serving a left-wing Disney is better than nothing.

[@peteg475]

Media respects THEIR OWN sources. They'll even risk jail not to identify them. But the minute one of their political enemies exposes something uncomfortable, then it's time to ask for other peoples' sources to be outed. Hypocrites. Slime. Snakes. Useless wastes of skin, all of them.

[@Slitheringpeanut]

They want the names so they can tell their Studio Masters (Disney owns ABC, WB owns CNN for example) and get rid of anyone dissenting.

[@MissPerriwinkle]

this deserves to be a major story, the way the animators were treated.....unreal.

[@Mereologist]

Sadly, a LOT of programming companies pretty regularly abuse their employees. It is almost standard for 'crunch time' to mean that employees never leave the office and work as long as they are capable of remaining conscious. I used to work for a wing of Nintendo and they went so far as to have beds for programmers to sleep in... and even then they were expected to sleep the bare minimum and get back to work.

[@ad-sd-vids5332]

Back in the 50s, Hollywood would blacklist you if they thought you were a communist Now they blacklist you if they think you’re not a communist

[@catsofsherman1316]

Sad but true. We need to dig up McCarthy and set things right

[@toddcooley5495]

Clever post, but I'd argue it's not communism, thought it's related, for example by dividing the world into "oppressors" and "oppressed." A better term is "cultural marxism."

[@Attmay]

Karl Marx was the problem with Marxism, and even by its own standard it is imperialist like everything to come out of that terrorist shithole he lived in, falsified statistics in, and mistreated his wife Jenny in. Plus, he made Mussolini and Hitler possible.

[@eeddieedwards3890]

@ad-sd-vids5332 Truth!

[@Doomweapon66]

@@toddcooley5495 Cultural marxism did splinter off of communism though. The end goals are similar too. That's why people get communism and cultural marxism lumped into the same thing because they are virtually the same thing. The unfortunate thing is cultural marxists still fall for the typical marxist trap that they believe that it can be done (through force if needed). The problem is said cultural marxists also fail to understand that because any type of communist/socialist/similar system requires someone to enforce it, "equality" under cultural marxism is physically impossible on any scale larger than a group of 10 people in a backwater village. At least it's funny that if you try to explain any of that to anyone supporting such systems, the very concept that the only way to enforce a social system is through some group enforcing it (i.e. police) will fly over their heads. Still can't tell if it's because their heads are hollow and metaphorically "bend" to avoid any concepts they can't understand or if they do understand the concepts and are just huffing so much copium that they'd become balloons if it got switched with helium.

[@wolveric0]

One reason why this productions are costing so much money might be related to the fact that "activist" are really good at illegally funneling money from positions of power they are able to hijack, i'm quite sure some heads of production are over reporting or bloating the budgets.

[@iro6758]

Independence Day: "You don't really think they spent 40 thousand dollars on a hammer, and 30 thousand on a toilet seat, do ya?"

[@Charmayne7]

Exactly. There is some money laundering going on here.

[@Attmay]

These are shakedown funds disguised as something else. The government does it all the time. Nobody pays $400 for a toilet seat. It’s a toilet seat plus whatever they don’t want you to know about lumped in with it.

[@Attmay]

Were they made of gold?

[@psytrancedj]

BLM is a perfect example of this.

[@jford6898]

Though now retired, I worked at Disney for many years and towards the end interacted with much of what is mentioned here. An outstanding memory from the early 2000s is sitting around a meeting table in Disney Burbank and people would still say "Walt would never approve of that" or "Walt would like this" as if he was about to walk into the room. "Virtual Walt" was alive for many years after his death. All things change of course but the core values of Disney were alive for a long time gently guiding the creative process. They appear to have almost all disappeared now.

[@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769]

Its interesting that you guys think that the pedophilia in old Disney movies is ok but you draw the line at a black person

[@Stonehorn]

@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769what pedophilia, weirdo?

[@EndingSimple]

The comment about having parents make cartoons for kids goes right to the heart of the first rule of writing: write what you know. They got a lot of people with only second hand experience of human life.

[@kenamaro3942]

And a lot of cats..

[@bommie]

Incredible seeing Film Threat at the tip of the spear to take down Disney with this exposé. Reminds me of the film "Shattered Glass" where The New Republic got taken down by a small indie magazine for fabricating stories. Great film, stars a young Hayden Christensen. Keep going, guys!

[@toddcooley5495]

That movie showed that Hayden Christiansen was actually a talented actor.

[@scaryhobbit211]

@@toddcooley5495 Hayden Christiansen can be legit great in the right roles and with the right script. There's even flashes of it in the SW Prequels, though sadly much of it got ruined by Lucas' wonky writing style. (George definitely can't write romance, lol.)

[@Nutmeg142]

As a girl, I just want good movies, I don’t care how many lines other women get. I’m smart enough to recognize (and old enough) that talking a lot doesn’t make for a strong character. Fighting someone physically doesn’t mean you’re a leader and not every woman has to be the hero. Sometimes it’s nice to support our families too.

[@coldbeer8899]

I cannot wait for this article. I hope it causes as much internal panic at Disney as the Panderverse.

[@Attmay]

“Pander” is a slur. The correct terminology is “cater to a demographic whose tastes are good enough to have earned it.” LGB representation is here to stay, and the sooner it becomes 100% of all media 100% of the time, the sooner social justice can be achieved.

[@coldbeer8899]

@Attmay work on your troll game, it's not even novice level

[@Kratosx23]

@@Attmay I notice you didn't include the final part, lol.

[@johnhoran9840]

"LGB representation is here to stay," Why did you delete the "T"? You're obviously a transphobe!!! 😤😤😤@@Attmay

[@APsychicMonkey]

​@@AttmayWhat about the Ts, bigot???

[@DarthBalsamic]

So "journalists" are doing more work to investigate Film Threat who was reached by Disney employees for collectively telling the truth, rather than wondering not only why these employees didn't reach out to them, but why they have been shilling, covering for, and making excuses for Disney for over a decade now as they demolished every legacy franchise. The audacity, hubris and credulity of these "journalists."

[@QuatrinaVR]

I say you guys should include who exactly asked y’all to doxx your sources. Thank you for having integrity, guys!

[@Kittensinurface]

You guys should get in contact with a youtuber named Ya Boi Zack. He has an expansive channel that has documented the activist takeover of Marvel in great detail, from Squirrel Girl to the creation of Ms Marvel. I find that Disney had become infected by these same activists, it's sad but fascinating to see how culture can literally rot away into a dark age if people begin to worship harmful ideologies. The state of Marvel comics is 100 times worse than what we see coming through in the movies.

[@greygorygaming]

I've read a lot of those comics and the movies like Love and Thunder or shows like She-Hulk are on the same level at this point.

[@natandtheguy1]

Great reporting keep up the great work , Disney is a dumpster fire

[@funnydonut9769]

I am a mom of 2 boys in her late 40's and I am so grateful for this channel, along with The Critical Drinker - my goto's to listen about modern movies. I remember watching a KZbin clip about Chris ranting about modern movies today and how they lack good storyline and creative thinking and that's how I started following this channel because it resonated with me so much. I used to love taking my kids to the movies but over the last 5 years, I've noticed a big deterioration in quality and storyline. Now going to the movies is a big chore and time suck! It started with the Star Wars The Last Jedi and it seems most Disney movies since then have been awful! I remember Rotten Tomatoes giving The Last Jedi a 91%, so I thought it was going to be great, but it was SO bad. I don't trust any of the big outlets anymore for honest movie reviews. They all seem bought off and if your movie checks all the boxes or has a certain political storyline, they will love it. It's really sad because I used to LOVE Disney, my favorite animation being Moana but now I don't want to watch any of their movies!

[@progste]

Last jedi was definitely the movie that made me stop enjoying star wars and other new movies. The quality had been going down for a long time before that but it wasn't so evident yet and I just wanted to enjoy movies, but after that I couldn't ignore it anymore.

[@lance134679]

These media outlets seem to want to expose the animators telling you what's going on inside Disney. It's almost like they forget the very foundation of journalism, which includes protecting your sources. Modern media is such a joke.

[@Blisterdude123]

I mean, there is a fine line to be threaded. You say modern media is a joke, and it is, but you should be expected to provide some evidence of your claims, or citation, if you want to be taken seriously. Otherwise you could just say anything. Make any claim and insist it's true, but you can't ever back it up? If I don't know someone personally, the value of a man's word to me is limited, dubious. I don't trust the media, but I don't necessarily trust a stranger on the internet either. And nor should anyone. One should always question, and doubt, always exercise your own critical thinking, because people always have an agenda. Whatever Chris says, how he chooses to frame and choose his words carefully, of course Film Threat has an agenda too. He wants his brand to be successful, so even from a basic business sense, that's an agenda. This isn't an act of altruism. He has an audience and he has a vested interest in seeing that grow.

[@captainfrandad1138]

@@Blisterdude123For decades I’ve been hearing professional journalists say they never reveal their sources, that they protect their sources because they need to keep the flow of information going, and in some cases lives and careers can be at stake. Whistleblowers are sources and we have laws in the UK protecting whistleblowers. The fact that these mainstream outlets are demanding proof of identity of FT’s sources says to me that they are not journalists, they have no journalistic integrity but are indeed mouthpieces for their paymasters in the industry. They want to identify the sources so they can be punished, cancelled, for speaking to FT. There is no clearer indication that the mainstream outlets are bought-up mouthpieces of the industry than the fact that they are demanding proof of identity of sources. That one single act should set so many alarm bells ringing.

[@markiangooley]

Most journalists want to live in an LGBTQ+-friendly version of the Soviet Union. They want a Stalin to adore and serve, preferably a minority female one but a dictator who will destroy everyone who disagrees with them.

[@peteg475]

It's always possible for anonymous sources/whistleblowers to be bad actors with agendas, or completely made up. This is a risk. However, a free society can't really exist where anyone who chooses to expose corrupt or unethical behavior by powerful people will automatically be outed. All consumers can do is listen to the information, and decide how credible it seems through the details and subsequent analysis. There's no real other way.

[@Attmay]

That’s because so many Disney adults are gullible enough to believe them, and even some of the ones who are not still don’t follow up on these sources. Things can change in an instant for no reason whatsoever. I have even heard someone who claimed to know somebody from Disney who said that they were going to make technical improvements to the uncut-ish *Bedknobs and Broomsticks* to make the reinsertions fit better, but then they canceled that and said “nope, we’re going back to the short version.” That movie is too good to be at the mercy of a studio that treats it about as well as Bill Sykes treated Nancy in *Oliver!* I was boycotting Disney before it was cool. I was boycotting it on principle. I still am. And it looks as though that boycott will be indefinite.

[@ajdz1840]

The anecdote about the millennial woman saying “can we get a woman to run this place” is exactly the type of overconfident, know it all, insufferable, entitled and sexist woman that Disney’s output of Girl Bosses for the last decade has been indoctrinating. And they’re coming to a workplace near you soon

[@x0rn312]

You know that the college kids have been gen Z for nearly 10 years now right question mark? Stop calling everyone younger than you a millennial

[@FOGHORNNC]

So hows that worked out for Disney Star Wars??? Yup.. Spot on comment. Too many XX with, in Han Solo's words, "Delusions of Grandeur."

[@slicedtopieces]

@@x0rn312 ??? The anecdote from Chris was that it was a "young millennial woman".

[@reginaldforthright805]

The money went straight to Hamas, didn’t it

[@reginaldforthright805]

@@x0rn312 spoken like a true millennial.

[@zombygunslinger]

About 4 years ago I asked some of my friends that work in CGI if they wanted to work for Disney, they said they would never work for Disney, that Disney was the worst place to work as the pay is terrible and it's not a good environment. They said that people want to work at Disney because of it's reputation, and Disney exploited that. Sounds like it's got much worse.

[@scottkirby5016]

the 100 year celebration should have been a new version of Fantasia. A couple from the original, a couple from the 2000 one, and some new ones with all the new 3D computing power...a celebration of the art.

[@rosemarypec158]

You would think that a company with a 100yr history would have been preparing for this celebration years in advance. That they would pull out all the stops, spare no expense and produce something to not only lovingly honor their past and project a bright and exciting future. Continuing the legacy they have, it looks like they are closing up shop.

[@winterwolfsden]

Should've been re releasing the classics into theatre culminating w. Major new film. Highest quality, major homage, max respect for the franchise history. Total ball drop here instead.

[@NeverForget1776]

With over 100 million in wish's production cost seemingly unaccountable I'd say it sounds ds like Bob Igers got the money for a huge personal celebration

[@RaycrowX]

I worked at a company like this and I can definitely confirm that The Message comes from all levels. Woke executives hire woke employees, and then when the executives want to do something outside of the woke agenda, the executives are taken to task by the employees they hired.

[@Fairred6507]

I lived in Burbank over 50 years ago, and Disney was where you tried to start your career and then got out as fast as you could and got work somewhere else where you were paid and treated better.

[@Stonehorn]

I mean, except that’s nonsense, animators used to stay there their whole careers.

[@ColKlink-pk9yx]

Thank you for your honesty in your opinions and character in protecting sources. You guys do such a great job. Take care, stay safe and Merry Christmas 👍🇦🇺

[@Radioman-pv5np]

Man, you should have led with the Cars 3 story. That's the perfect example of how diseased and broken Disney is. I'm just rooting for the total collapse. Long ago I gave up on ever wanting to see them pull out of this death spiral. They have brought this on themselves.

[@scaryhobbit211]

What happened during Cars 3? I hadn't heard of that movie being particularly bad (unlike Cars 2, but that film failed due to *other reasons).

[@ReasonablySkeptic]

The fact that you're so protective of your sources tells me that *MORE SOURCES ARE GOING TO COME YOUR WAY!* Any journalist that will burn their sources will find themselves without sources real fast! And now that whistleblower see that you guys can be trusted they'll know to come to you.

[@E3Ops]

Disney was a big part of my childhood. I loved all of the animations from snow white, peter pan, cinderella, pinnochio, princess and the frog etc...I'm so saddened with the current state of the company. Bring back proper animation. People would show up to theaters in droves!

[@naturalistwarrior]

I like the part where King Magnifico says "Merry Christmas Ya filthy animal!", It gives me chills down my spine! I also like the part where Asha sings the new song ''I Squeezed Out the Baby, Yet I Have No Idea Who the Father Is.'', That song was so rock n' awesome that everyone in the theater just got up from their seats, drop there popcorn and drinks and start dancing!

[@tituspannell6009]

I didn't know that you guys started off as a reporting media for indie films? I just found you through reviewing and commentating on mainstream films. I agreed with a lot of what you were saying, because it was my own personal thought, and it was great seeing someone speak the truth to the world. Knowing that you guys have a website, blog, and so forth I will definitely be looking into a lot of the things that you guys put out.

[@FugueState1]

I hope Bob Eiger and Elon Musk settle their feud with a No-Holds-Barred Cage Match!

[@MarkXHolland]

How about a cock fight? 😂

[@SkwisgaarSkwigelf-69-420]

Hell in a cell!

[@arandomchick7510]

Thank you! Courage is hard to find these days in media.

[@jenniferst.george810]

Even Disney friendly Reddit is calling wish bad. Ps congratulations on 100k subs

[@alk3rio97]

MeToo was just a hostile takeover. The head of it was Jar Jar Abrams wife, and now people from Bad Robot are behind nearly all of our fandoms being tanked

[@Attmay]

It was also responsible for the persecution of Kevin Spacey.

[@gjtrue]

The 'Wish' movie took only about, if true, *three* to *four* months to animate. . . And it looks and feels like it too. Ever since I saw the reveal trailer Wish just seemed rushed, unpolished (or rather, not as much as it should have been), and "off" to me.

[@lazylady8591]

Didn't Disney claim it was five years in the making? I heard that reported somewhere else. Those millions are going somewhere, but not on the film

[@gjtrue]

@@lazylady8591 Same but I'm now hearing conflicting stories. Whatever the case, yeah. That money clearly didn't go into Wish. 🥴

[@whistlingsage9817]

@@lazylady8591 There are rumors that the originally project was scrapped and radically altered after activists rose to ascendancy in the company. That could explain some of the massive over-expenditure.

[@Attmay]

Even the Gay outer space movie didn’t look this lazy and harried despite being every bit as cold, clinical, calculated, and soulless as this.

[@miscielrossvillegas6307]

jesus that sounds like a sweatshop business?? just three to four months for a feature length film?? 1 year is close to pushing it but just 3 months??

[@hoegild1]

A Mainstream European newspaper wrote "there was a time, when a new Disney movie was something you rushed to. No more. Wish is a mediocre, forgettable movie, filled with messageing".. I work with children, and they stopped care about Disney a long time ago!

[@Mereologist]

14:02 This was my thought too... just from the trailers the city was unidentifiable because Disney so very obviously made it so diverse that it couldn't exist in reality. It was diversity to the point of no diversity - everything is just put in a blender and so loses all its character.

[@jwhite5396]

“Where did that money go?” Exactly.

[@LanceCorporal_Waffles]

This is why I love Chris and Alan. They are willing to listen to people who have different opinions and still be civil.

[@leelewis445]

You guys are awesome. Like Chris mentioned, I imagine the animators who brought this to their attention know that the mainstream outlets will twist and spin whatever they had to say. Appreciate Film Threat and you've got our support. Love the shout out to Coffee Brand Coffee. Jeremy would be pleased lol.

[@ssl3546]

This cancer is everywhere, even big tech companies like Google, Microsoft etc. Unfortunately those companies are not going broke.

[@MartenFerret]

How was Wish 200M to make if it was thrown together over several months with people working 60hrs/wk? These animators are either supremely rich or Chris Pine was paid FAR more than he's worth.

[@RadicalValkyrie]

There is no such thing as a rich animator.

[@seastriker4437]

I am almost coming to the conclusion there is some kind of money laundering going on with a lot of these projects with over bloated budgets that look incredibly cheap. I mean compare Wish to something like Klaus which had a much lower budget and you can tell all of the money went into making Klaus as good as it was. Then you look at Wish and none of that shows in it’s huge budget.

[@scaryhobbit211]

@@seastriker4437 Spiderverse 2 was similarly revealed to have an insane crunch just like Wish did, yet that movie turned out to look FAR better...and most importantly, was FAR CHEAPER and FAR MORE SUCCESSFUL. Whatever Disney spent on this movie didn't go into the animation.

[@genxtasy9914]

Love the channel. I want to support these guys

[@welsthe3rd]

This is the case at all corporations now. There's a HUGE talent vacuum from people leaving/retiring and there's ZERO effort to find/train new talent. All my coworkers are contractors. They just say work HARDER!! FASTER!! CHEAPER!!

[@bunberrier]

The way to signal a recovery is for a new CEO to publicly announce a return to walts vision with a big picture of Walt and Roy on the stage, to which at some point he stops talking, turns his back on the crowd, and just looks at them for a moment. Psychology matters, as does results.

[@CosmicMage]

Disney is an institution that I deeply love and hope as much as possible gets its ship turned around. I hope that in the tradition of epic Disney storytelling this happens In a beautiful and unexpected way.

[@HB-zi3og]

I dont think its so much them getting into trouble for what they say, it's getting into trouble for what they DONT say. Good luck guys. Keep up the great work.

[@neilengel3715]

When I was there, I would get an assignment and I'd go straight to the boss and say "Good Fast Cheap PICK TWO"

[@Hawkingsly]

This story has pushed you guys to the top of my algorithm (and a guy named Mike Zeroh) and I’m happy have discovered fellow film nerds.

[@McDLT999999999999999]

Do yourself a favor and block Mike Zeroh, he’s the opposite of the journalist integrity that Film Threat has. He basically makes shit up.

[@Attmay]

He’s just another scorned former asskisser, a poor man’s version of the already overrated Clownfish TV.

[@richtes]

@@McDLT999999999999999MZ never has a link to an actual source. Blocking is the best approach

[@Hawkingsly]

It only took 2 videos to figure out what his game was, thank you for your concern!@@McDLT999999999999999

[@BecomeTheKnight]

I can't say I'm totally surprised, but it's good to hear some people starting to speak up. Even if it is just anonymous. Thank you for reporting!

[@mhug86]

"I'm Meltzer-ing this"😂😂😂 As a lifelong wrestling fan hats off to you Alan!😂😂😂

[@lifegood3322]

Alan is my hero! 😁👍 Chris is ok too! 😂

[@gregmize01]

"A frickin' ikea chair"

[@jeffc3455]

“Disney’s Wish: 100 Days in the Making”

[@christophertaylor4722]

Publish the names and what news outlets they work for, that demanded, You give up your sources. Who was it that demanded pay stubs and I d cards??? It's amazing how one journalism organization demands another journalism organization give up their sources.

[@toddcooley5495]

I trust Chris and Alan way more than the legacy media or the industry trades.

[@greenjihad3390]

Good for you all for being the medium for the animators to speak out!

[@nimdro]

And ofc there will be trouble down the line when you recruit based on boxes and not talent and competence

[@fallous]

Great content, shame about the thumbnail. "Get's"? Also, I absolutely agree with Chris that engaging with opposing viewpoints is a great way to improve your arguments and understanding of your own position, but it isn't the only way to improve.... failure is the greatest educator you will ever meet and its lessons are the ones that will stick with you the longest.

[@tacticianAlexandra]

Failure can be a great teacher. If you are able to understand why you failed and are willing to learn from it. Companies like disney. Have shown, well. Not everyone can learn from failure but rather keep repeating the same errors again and again. Of course disney [at least these in charge of the company] is also rather stubborn, where even when others point out why they failed in detail. They still refuse to learn.

[@namugriff]

@@tacticianAlexandra Sadly at times the highers up are blind to what is going on, cause they surround themselves with yes men, and anyone that points out what's going on, is often moved on, or moved sideways, to keep the highers up in their little world where nothing is going wrong. Also they often will refuse to listen to anyone on the ground or the customer base, cause to them, they don't manner. We pay you to do, not to think, is often what they use on the staff, even if that staff member has been there from the start and knows more about how the company runs compared to the higher ups. There are often many people in the lower runs that could help turn around a company, but they are often ignored, cause they are seen as a problem, not a solution.

[@dikysahertian8659]

13:40 FUCK. YES. That's exactly what I'm feeling

[@CallMeChato]

Great job.

[@barcodebattler2587]

I assumed the title wish was a knowing reference to the website, "we have disney at home, honey"

[@FugueState1]

Film Threat: Hollywood's Finest News Source

[@kytoober5137]

Hearing that it took 3 months highlights one big issue... Render times. Animation is one thing but to do all the rendering in that time tells me that they had to really drop the quality just to process the sequences in that timeframe. Look at the antagonist eyes in that closeup in the trailer. The irises show pixels...

[@kirbyjackov5081]

thanks for getting this out there!!!

[@hope-cat4894]

I appreciate you guys risking your statuses in the industry to help the little guy. 🙏

[@jonslade17]

Disney used to be the dream. Now it's where dreams go to die

[@Hawkingsly]

I wonder what percentage of movie “budget” had to go towards Disney’s overhead for properties, assets, etc…. I mean, where else do the budgets go?

[@martinjohnson5498]

21:00 the power of the woke employees was obvious when they forced Chapek to oppose the Florida parental rights bill over a year ago.

[@johnselden9257]

I love how both of you have such excitement about sharing this news with us. Great info….I mean, I knew all these things generally but the clarifications are very valuable. Disney is an utter disgrace…they don’t deserve Walt’s name anymore. The company name should be something else entirely so that Walt can rest in peace.

[@el09gato]

Lasseter is a genius who was misused by the company! I’m glad he’s moved on. I will be supporting his new work at apple with SkyDance animation.

[@shrimboi8909]

I will financially support u guys!

[@onehundredpercentmaxnochil9720]

Congrats on hitting 100k fellas! Been loving your reporting on Disney. In fact I'm more interested in that. 🎉

[@TheVFXbyArt]

8:52 When I worked at disney 25 years ago, though OT was rarer, we did get meals catered as well as ordered out. And yes: its to keep you there working.

[@Attmay]

They are basically lovebombing you with carbohydrates.

[@bryanhaycock672]

It’s hard to learn from those who believe that 2+2 can = 5. There isn’t always something to learn from people who disagree with you.

[@diamondplate]

Keep up the good work Alan & Chris. GREAT report.

[@platingandetch]

My observation about training new workers is that companies no longer want to spend any money doing that. It's more expensive to have a master and an apprentice than to just have a master. So ditch the apprentice and save some money. But this, of course, causes a problem when the master dies, retires or is forced out. Companies don't seem to care about this problem. Maybe they don't even understand that it is a problem. It's all very puzzling.

[@Attmay]

Disney did not trust the process Walt created even though it worked when managed correctly.

[@alicianieto2822]

People making the choices make their money from bonuses for short term and mid term returns. Thinking long term can get them replaced. I don't know how 99% of large companies are standing...Oh yeah! Sorry, I do know, we saw it in 2008

[@irvhh143]

There are two billion Asians more than happy to work in the promised land.

[@TheRuizsByTim]

DO NOT trust mainstream media with the lives of these animators. You shouldn't trust them to be fair to you either. They would crush you and end you if they could.

[@Shifft-This]

2:53 This is why I watch you guys. Both Chris and Alan are very much "on the ground floor" with this stuff more so than most other outlets. I also appreciate that Chris and Alan typically have very different takes on some films which helps to balance out the viewpoints when discussing films and other pop culture stuff. That variety of opinion is important and that's something these sort of hive mind outlets have lost touch with. In fact, I'd wager that when Chris and Alan do agree with each other when criticizing a film it makes the review much more potent because their views can at times be at odds. Anyway, l really enjoy hearing Chris and Alan debate films so I hope you guys can keep doing what you're doing.

[@jeffa5524]

You guys are so awesome. Love the inside scoops. Really great reporting 😅

[@domm6812]

I've never seen anyone nail what's currently wrong with Hollywood and entertainment in general more accurately than you guys here at Film Threat. I stumbled across some interviews with Chris early 2022 and was so impressed with his great observations and ability to articulate it all. The fanatical far left crowd are so entrenched in in positions of power in the entertainment industry (and quite a few media outlets) that i believe it will take maybe another decade for the puritanical hysteria to be pushed back. And I say that as a centre left person who is utterly tired of it. These people are toxic and their behaviour mirrors that of fanatical cultists. You can't reason with most of them, and they believe they're on a righteous crusade. They will cling to power for as long as they can. Yes, far right people do this too, but extremes on either side are bad.

[@TWGarg]

Kudos to you both! Journalists don't reveal sources.

[@mayrahemmerechts5867]

Yes talent should be put first but don’t eliminate actual talented people based on them not being a white, straight, sis, Christian, physically, mentally and emotionally healthy, hyper masculine man between the ages of 30 and 80! Keep in mind that those people have already told their stories and had the chance to actually be able to prove that they have talent and that they are not the ones who are being marginalised, caricatured, reduced to supporting roles, having their identities stripped away to fit in, segregated, repeatedly threaded with harm or worse, having laws be passed that take away their bodily autonomy, being called terr0rists, having no proper representation in governments, not having proper acces in buildings that everyone is supposed to be able to enter, suffering trough pain or misunderstandings their entire lives, forced to stay in abusive relationships just because and so much more!

[@Mitzoplick]

- Disney teams with Pixar and makes hit movies - Disney attempts to make it's own 3d animated films and they are much less successful - Disney teams with Pixar again and the hits return - Disney acquires Pixar and takes control - Disney / Pixar stops being successful Once Disney takes total creative control of an IP or production company that was successful, it eventually falls flat. Pixar, Power Rangers, Lucasfilm, Marvel.

[@therationalblackman957]

If the a Disney animated movie takes a 1 to 3 years to make, then that means there is probably an animated version of the original script.

[@garygreen5670]

"A bit too handsy" sounds like the muppet currently playing the role of president. Where's his enquiry?

[@shep68]

Did you care that much about “grab em by the pu$$y”? If not, then handsy shouldn’t bother you either.

[@MephiticMiasma]

I thought that one was a bit too nosy

[@eagletrigger]

Honestly, the fact the budgets are that high, I'm really wondering if their isn't some laundering or embezzlement going on.

[@Attmay]

How else do you explain something this cheap and shoddy-looking being so expensive?

[@suburbanbanshee]

Some? Pretty sure it's a lot. And that would explain why Blackrock keeps passing out the money... because a big chunk of that same money is coming back to them.

[@itchimo82]

I like Alan's new hairstyle!

[@dbut5427]

You are not suicidal, say that too. In this day in age. Be safe out there.