Final Cut Crushes this technique... (better than DaVinci Resolve)

[@WierdGuyLiam]

It a good feature for sure but. If you just alt (opt on mac)drag the audio in davinci you get the exact same effect with a fraction of a second slower than final cut. You don’t need to move you video up on the timeline.

[@jakefelzien]

But that doesn’t let the audio tracks slightly overlap does it? 🤔

[@WierdGuyLiam]

@@jakefelzien if you drag it one layer down yes. when you hold alt (opt)you can drag it around sepertly however you want without the video moving up and down or side to side, so just pul it one layer down then to the same thing as in final cut.

[@jakefelzien]

@ oh. But you still have to “pull it down” I wish there was a way to auto do that 🤔

[@WierdGuyLiam]

@@jakefelzien ME TOO. but it dosent take enough time for be to want to switch to final cut. especially cause I'm a fusion fan boy an do a lot of motion graphics! enyways I enjoyed the video!

[@qiyuxuan9437]

​@@jakefelzien I think you can use the alt(option)+arrow key to move it down, which can be a bit easier than draging it down with mouse.

[@Papy57]

Merci beaucoup pour la traduction Française, du coup, je suis peut-être le premier à souscrire à ta chaine. Superbe tutoriel, j'ai beaucoup appris de toi. 🙏

[@jakefelzien]

No problem! 🫡

[@JamieMorris-p5z]

Your channel has so much potential to be a go-to for Final Cut Pro content! I’ve always taken for granted how easy J and L cuts are in FCP, and your comparison made me realize just how different things are in DaVinci-super insightful. Since I’m a relatively new fan of your videos and want to see them get even better, I wanted to share some constructive feedback. Totally unsolicited, so if you’re not into critiques, feel free to skip or delete-no hard feelings! Either way, wishing you the best. First off, if I don’t mention something, it’s because I think it’s already amazing. Your camera work, lighting, sound, and thumbnails? Absolutely on point. Some of the effects, like the radio effect, prism, and magnetic mask, felt a little random. The magnetic mask made sense when you showed the DaVinci timeline behind you,. I think edits feel the most satisfying when they’re directly tied to what’s happening on-screen. About the “Dorky Daddy” references... maybe it’s just me, but I’m not really into it. If your audience loves it, go for it-I might be the odd one out here. The pacing could use some tightening up, depending on your goals. If your videos are meant to feel like just hanging out and vibing, then you’ve nailed it. But if they’re more for engagement, then I think a faster pace would help. We didn’t get to the timeline segment until about 4 minutes in. A 9 min video should have some solid key points, I felt like I only got one key takeaway: It's easier in FCP. The ending also felt a little long, depending on what you’re going for. Criticism is usually hard to hear, so props to you if you’ve read this far. I know feedback can be helpful in getting a pulse on your audience. All that said, I really like your content and can’t wait to see what you post next!

[@jakefelzien]

Wow, thanks so much for all the feedback - I really appreciate you taking the time. I'll keep all of this in mind ☺️

[@josealcoy]

+1 for the dorky daddy references, not my thing, but otherwise great channel, bit less interested in final cut stuff since I edit with Davinci :-)

[@AgentProduction88]

For someone who hasn’t touched Resolve, I really love watching this FCP/DaVinci Resolve comparison. It gives me a little understanding of what it feels like using Resolve.

[@jakefelzien]

It’s interesting looking and learning about the track based world huh?

[@Rob_Kandels]

In Davinci you can option click (on mac) and only move the Audio to a new track while keeping it linked to the video. if your keyboard shortcuts are close to default, if you click on "T" it will change your selection mouse and give you the same ability to trim just the Video if as long as you Option click the video other wise it will trim both the audio and video

[@jakefelzien]

I know. This is still clunkier than what I showed with FCP tho 🫡

[@ELTExperiences]

Just subscribed and pleased to see you explaining how to go about including the J cuts in FCP. Not sure if you have a video about this but could you explain how you GarageBand to record your audio and sync to FCP with your video? I do this but I notice that you have multiple audio layers in your video and curious how you use the multiple audio clips with FCP.

[@jakefelzien]

I could make a video! I just record my audio with Logic (or GarageBand) and then export that audio when I am done and sync it in FCP to replace the camera audio :)

[@daguerratype]

Great technique! Totally agree this is a great way to keep the pace flowing for internet video. Before you even showed how you do it in Resolve, I was like, you can do this, just stack the tracks. Maybe I've been working in track-based editors too long, but this looks completely normal. If anything it looks tame compared to any real track-based project. Don't get me wrong, while I mostly work in Premiere and Resolve, but I think FCP X/11 is great. But this is one of those things that I think is more just 'different' not 'better' or 'worse'.

[@jakefelzien]

have you ever used FCP though? As someone who has used both extensively I can tell you it is worse. I have borked so many more timelines in Resolve because of this and have borked zero in FCP because it handles this exactly how it should :)

[@benderbi]

The magnetic timeline is awesome when you learn it and embrace it

[@jakefelzien]

1000%

[@motionblurgamer]

As a Resolve user, this is one thing I miss from Final Cut Pro. Sure, it isn’t much slower if you know how to effectively use shortcuts. But this was one thing I hoped Resolve would bring to its simplified Cut page. (Not the Edit page). But in general I just find the Cut page in Resolve annoying when working with audio. On the other hand, when it comes to audio in Final Cut Pro I miss a proper track mixer. Sure it’s possible to work around it in Final Cut, but that’s one thing that’s less optimized compared to other NLEs I feel.

[@jakefelzien]

Feel the exact same way on both of these 🫡

[@ThuanPhamYT]

In my workflow, I raise the second clip to Track 2 (bolting audio and video, my shortcut is Alt + R), overlap it with the first clip, and hold Alt to trim the video to the desired point. If I want to create a J-cut with the third clip, since the second clip is in Track 2 and the third clip is in Track 1, I simply move it into the second clip.

[@jakefelzien]

Seems like a good workflow. Still not as smooth as what you can do in FCP I don’t think which bums me out :(

[@gabehobbs]

Could you not just move the audio of that video clip to track 2 and do the effectively the same thing?

[@jakefelzien]

Yes but not as easily. It’s kinda just not my favorite way to do it. Easy to break the edit etc 🤪

[@LaurenceLee]

Especially once that timeline starts getting busy and has a lot of tracks. Its so annoying to have to move track up/down and have to worry about accidentally overwriting something

[@jakefelzien]

@@LaurenceLee this is a fantastic point. I should have mentioned that as well. anything gets complicated and FCP makes it so much easier for sure

[@LaurenceLee]

@@jakefelzien Thats probably one of the biggest reasons I'm back with FCP. With track based editing, there is just so much thinking that has to go into movement and what you're doing on the timeline. I want to be able to move as fast as I'm thinking without worrying about how each individual track is acting. Once you learn how to utilize the position tool in FCP everything changes.

[@gabehobbs]

@@jakefelzien Yeah I hear that. I see the FCP automation, and think it would take the pressure off a bit. But when I organize my projects I have dedicated audio tracks so I don't think about it as much. First 2 tracks are always the vocal mix (running through to a bus so they have the same processing which is a big upside to this process -- genuine question, can you do that in FCP?) so I can always keep everything straight and keep it from breaking.

[@shadowwwlegend2937]

Oh boy the davinci fan boys are gonna come for you 😂.

[@jakefelzien]

Oh boy. I’m a DaVinci fanboy as well 😅😅

[@Hi-HK]

It is more of a final cut pro fanboy.

[@jakefelzien]

@@Hi-HK you haven't watched enough of the channel then :) haha

[@MINIPRO27]

in davinci you can just hold alt and place your cursor between the audio or video clips to make a fast j cut

[@jakefelzien]

But still doesn’t do the interrupting 🤔

[@MINIPRO27]

@jakefelzien same thing, hold alt to only select the audio and make two cuts and hold shift and drag to bottom track so you move the audio clip under the next one

[@projectnextek]

Hi! In DaVinci try "Layerd Audio Editing" in Timeline + "Show audio track layers" in View. This way you can adjust the audio to overlap (pressing Option) and keep the video on a single track. P.S. Not as fast as FCP but doable 🙌

[@jakefelzien]

so i have played with this and it doesn't work for me. It just selects one rather than keeping the audio from both? am i crazy?

[@jakefelzien]

yeah i just confirmed this doesn't work again. I remember testing this months ago thinking i had found the best thing ever. just only picks the top one to play at a time which is annoying

[@projectnextek]

@@jakefelzien yep, you are right, but in this mode I believe you can have 2 audio crossfades and better adjust the waveforms and it's all on a single track

[@mistersquid]

@3:48 You’ve well documented FCP J-cut affordance, but the result does not yield interrupting audio. 😖

[@jakefelzien]

No? 🤔

[@oo0Spyder0oo]

I’m learning FCP since I purchased a Mac mini a couple of weeks ago and so far I have to say davinci pisses all over FCP in the keyframe, editing dept. I like motion for the effects, easily powerful and simpler than fusion. I can’t get over FCP not having a simple fade/dissolve by pulling back on a clip’s opacity as PP, davinci and others do. Still, I appreciate each has strengths and weaknesses, just feel FCP has sat on its laurels while others have moved ahead. Hoping apple starts injecting some effort into improving it soon.

[@jakefelzien]

I think the 11 launch shows they are injecting life into it. Granted I agree with everything you said. Despite what some might say I love DaVinci and Final Cut both so much and FCP has a lot it still needs (which I’m working on a vid this week about)

[@kansaitraveler]

I got distracted watching Logic on your large monitor recording the audio.

[@jakefelzien]

You’re who I did it for ;)

[@kansaitraveler]

@ Egad! I fell for his fiendish plan!

[@skkver_runs]

Really cool and on time. Thanks

[@jakefelzien]

On time??? Sweet 🫡

[@stephanes.]

It’s Final J Cut Pro 😂

[@jakefelzien]

Bahahaha I love this 😂😂

[@seanmartinflix]

I don't know what others have said yet, but. It's hard to explain... but you can move the video in move the second clips audio down a track and push them together if that makes sense.. It would look better on the timeline I think. LOL then you could change color of the track if you would want tan or something purple make it pop. I'm kind of making fun of you, but I also get it.

[@jakefelzien]

I appreciate the humor 😂 But yeah this is still so much more painful than doing it in FCP. And I meant to mention it. But what if you do this on back to back clips. Organization becomes awful

[@Sorcnado]

DR IS KING!

[@jakefelzien]

It’s very solid

[@texashammer4]

FCPX foreveerrrrrr. Just too good and fast

[@jakefelzien]

You betcha

[@channelname-h4z]

Very simple to do this in resolve, adjust the video and audio together to get your desired cut, bring just the audio of one clip down to an empty track, adjust just the audio length for both clips. Why does final cut think I would want to edit with the video and audio being on the same track? What in the world? At least tell me that there is a default setting you can change to automatically separate the video and audio! That's absurd. As a full time editor, I cant down grade to final cut, resolve just has too many things that I do actually use that final cut just doesnt, I also do not like the magnetic timeline. I can see how it is amazing in a particular workflow... but I find it horrendous for pacing and seperating out sections of the video. It might be faster, but at my level of editing any of the things that make it faster also make it less capable. (within the same time frame, obvously you can get the same result if you put a ton of manual work in) For anyone looking to learn how to edit, but learn on a program that does make it easy to learn and still has a very high celing, Final cut is a Great choice. The magnetic timeline just lets you focus on editing and the video, and not have to worry about things not matching up. However, it also doesnt let you pick your own way of organizing your timeline. For anyone wanting to become a professional editor, (basically go beyond editing traditional style youtube videos) I would advise against Final Cut. Neither is a bad program, but some programs are bad for certain workflows.

[@jakefelzien]

Agree it can be done like that in Resolve and it is much clunkier than FCP 🤪 And I guess my concise comment on the rest of this is “right tool for the right job” I preach that constantly on my channel 🫡

[@sharchik916]

You could just not have audio and video linked all the time. I pretty much never have them linked so you can just kick the audio to a 2nd track for that moment in the edit and leave the video alone. Same as Final cut tbh :/

[@jakefelzien]

Kinda. Still not as smooth 🤔😅

[@Realist-m9c]

I just call the “rude” edits. I n Davinci I’d just do a slip edit with the speed editor.

[@jakefelzien]

Slip edit with the speed editor. Doesn’t that lose the tail of the starting clips audio? 🤔

[@karensurgery3845]

2 minutes in and still not just getting to the point... holy...

[@jakefelzien]

are you new to editing? or? have you used both? what is confusing? this comment isn't helpful to me ☺️

[@2424rocket]

Hey my Ford focus car holds my groceries Much better than my Lamborghini. But I think I’d rather have a Lamborghini. Nobody in Hollywood uses final cut… Not anybody! Gee, I wonder why. But everyone uses da Vinci resolve. So when you start comparing these programs, it makes you sound clueless.

[@JimineyBob]

It’s a false equivalence to compare software choices to cars like a Ford Focus and a Lamborghini. Creative tools are not about prestige but about functionality and purpose. Final Cut Pro and DaVinci Resolve cater to different needs, and dismissing one without context oversimplifies the discussion. The assertion that “nobody in Hollywood uses Final Cut Pro” is not grounded in reality. While DaVinci Resolve is lauded for its color grading capabilities, Final Cut Pro remains an invaluable tool for many editors, even within Hollywood. Notable films such as The Social Network and Focus have used Final Cut Pro. Beyond Hollywood, FCP’s speed, efficiency, and seamless integration with macOS make it a favorite among KZbinrs, corporate editors, and indie filmmakers. Moreover, the notion that “everyone uses DaVinci Resolve” reflects a sweeping generalization. Software choice depends on the project's needs: Final Cut Pro is unmatched for quick turnaround times, while DaVinci Resolve is renowned for its grading tools. Suggesting that one is universally better than the other disregards the diversity of the creative industry. Finally, reducing the debate to personal preference or an unsubstantiated claim that one tool is “the Hollywood standard” does a disservice to the nuanced discussion this topic deserves. Let’s not confuse personal bias with informed critique.

[@jakefelzien]

For Hollywood, I am fucking clueless 😌 I edit for the internet. That is my context. That is my story. I work for internet professionals. That is where I’m coming from. (Even in the intro I talked about how it is an internet technique) I wish I didn’t have to give my resume in every video but I maybe should start doing it so people know what angle I am talking about and save me some time 🙄

[@michaelocunningham]

@@JimineyBob Well said 😊

[@Okiyah]

Not for editing they don't.

[@filmplayer333]

FCPX (Honda civic) VS DaV (Ferrari)