Final Fantasy X Masters Challenge Mod - Star Player of the Zanarkand Abes

[@Sukaki_Izamu]

Stoic the damage amount dose mater its Damage received × 30 / Max HP one dark attack did about 140 damage after a cheer and so 140x30=4200/520=8.08% overdrive this would also lower with more cheers and when defending. worrior same but damage inflected x 10/ Estimated damage it has a cap of 16% and unless your getting crits like crazy i don't think its worth Comrade Damage received × 20 / Target's Max HP so its just a weaker version of Stoic unless the enemy has aoe attacks and everyone on it just like Stoic this dose not have a cap healer is Healing amount × 16 / Target's Max HP and seeing this can be used with potions not just cure you get more overdrive to over heal so a mega-potion of 2000x16=32000/520=61.5% but with it being a mega it will hit the other party members so it would max out but only good early and to burn high value items but might have to use this to cheese a boss ie overdrive X-potion to then overdrive again as it fills even at full hp Tactician 16% so you need to apply 7 status note magic break and the other breaks is a status same as Threaten and Provoke Victim 16% when you get a status so if you get hit with 7 at once full overdrive how ever I feel their a more important issue to address with willing get hit by a bad breath spell Dancer 16% for ever evade unless you spam reflex with lulu I don't see the point of this one Avenger 30% when a ally dies good luck making sure the Avenger not the one dying Slayer 20% for ever enemy killed best for mobs you can one shot and worthless on bosses unless they spawn endless adds Hero 20% and is so confusing I'm just going to copy past what on the wiki The gauge fills when the character kills an enemy with at least 10,000 HP, or at least 20x more HP than the estimated damage. For learning this mode, the amount is only 3x more HP. I think is killing bosses or really late game mobs that are as health tanks as bosses I guess? math you would need to be hitting for 100 damage with something at 2,000hp other then just killing anything with more then 10,000 hp Rook 10% when you reduse damage from the nul-spells shell protect and reflect good for if you need ten turns to set up while under mighty guard or something Victor 20% per win yaaay worse slayer (why is this in the game you get this so late compare to slayer in the base game unless your back tracking or clearing mobs with one character) {Yuna with this gets a pass} Coward 10% and I'm pretty sure this mod make this the only over drive mode you can't get witch is double funny how it the hardest one to learn in base game but I think they did that because the overdrive into ap and they probably didn't want you to just get free AP exp to just run away Auron has to do it the most of running away 1000 times to get it. Ally on a ally turn gain 4% man that so op lets nerff it to *3%* in the HD remakes and so the worthless mode is more worthless again I believe its more of a way to get free AP exp not like that matter with this mod Sufferer 16% when an ally take status way better letting your friends tank the bad breath attack so you get a free over drive that or aoe status like sandstorm blind or something. Daredevil 16% while in yellow health this is also clearly so broken just be in one tap range for 7 turns and free over drive need to also be nerff to *4%* for HD remake their now you need to be yellow for 25 turns Loner 16% yay better Deredevil other the when Tidus is alone in the early game and maybe when Yuna in that one part that about it unless you get gear to counter the enemies in a zone on one character.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Oh my GOD there is so much AMAZING info in your comment here, thank you!!! Some of these look epic! Great info on overhealing with healer, bad breath on victim, slayer would have been excellent on the SS liki right there! Rook might be really nice as well especially in some seymour content, unless the masters challenge changed it a lot. Daredevil nerf is brutal... I didn't realise that.

[@Karifean]

A few notes on all of them from experience as well: Stoic and Comrade are bread and butter, but they do rely on taking damage. They're at odds with trying to play without taking damage, so anytime you're inflicting debilitating statuses or doing NulSpells to negate damage you're kinda working against your own overdrive building, so they can be rather awkward. Having to take 3.33x or 5x max HP in damage to get a full overdrive is also rather steep, so they don't build very fast unless you're up against an enemy that hits you for a vast multiple of your max HP. Warrior is quite good especially since the estimated damage does not take elemental weakness into account. If you hit a weakness on an enemy with 0 Defense (which is a lot of enemies), you usually get a roundabout 15% boost per attack, which is really damn good. Eventually the damage cap nerfs it, but that's not relevant for most of the game. Do note that damage inflicted *by* an overdrive doesn't count, so you don't get a partial refund when using one. Healer is anecdotally really terrible. You have to heal even more than you have to take in damage with Comrade more to get a full overdrive, and overhealing DOESN'T count. You often want to heal outside of combat which doesn't count, either. I've never found a good use for it. It just charges far too slowly. Both Comrade and Ally tend to be better Tactician is solid, but it does require 7 status inflictions to work (inflicting multiple statuses on 1 enemy doesn't count multiple times) which is a lot early on when MP is limited. A nice thing about it is that overdrives do count for it, so using a Wakka or Kimahri overdrive that inflicts statuses gives a partial refund of 16% per enemy hit. Victim is not awful but almost always outperformed by Sufferer. It's extremely rare that you get inflicted with a status more often than you take a turn with a status on. Dancer is alright if you use Darkness a lot, especially on enemies where you can provoke a counterattack, otherwise it tends to be too slow to charge to full. Avenger is unbelievably niche and almost always worse than Comrade. Slayer is good, 20% per enemy killed is a lot, and overdrives give a partial refund with it if they kill enemies too unlike Warrior. If you keep getting one-hit kills it's better than Warrior, but if you need multiple full power hits to kill, Warrior tends to be better. Hero is a strictly worse version of Slayer and I don't believe there's a single reason, ever, to use it unless you don't have Slayer unlocked. Rook is situational but really good at the right moments; it's similar to Stoic but it's not dependent on damage taken, simply getting hit 10 times will charge your overdrive. It does require having Shell, Protect or Nuls up to get any charge, but it's always one to keep in mind, since you do tend to use those protective buffs a lot. Victor is solid enough, but needing to have the characters in the frontline can make it a hassle to work with, and you can only get an overdrive every 5 fights at most with it. Nothing to say on Coward. Not relevant for this mod anyways. Ally is a standard consistent pick but rarely better than alternatives, and having to take a whole 34 turns to get an overdrive is a LOT. Rarely the best pick, but you can work with it if you do use it. Sufferer is incredible when applicable. 7 turns while having statuses on is really not much. If up against an encounter that uses fairly harmless statuses frequently it's an easy great pick. Daredevil is really really bad overall. Only in specific situations like combining it with SOS Haste and SOS Overdrive it has a place, but otherwise just use Ally instead; you'll likely easily take enough turns while outside of yellow HP to make up the difference. Loner is always the best pick for solo fights, full stop. It charges incredibly fast. Outside of solo fights it's not very useful since it requires keeping yourself in a very dire situation to make use of it, so it's a very high risk option at best but there's typically safer options that are also better.

[@Sukaki_Izamu]

@@Karifean there is a contradiction in our information from the wiki The gauge fills when healing an ally, even with full HP. (Such as with Pray, White Magic, items) I assume your information come from your own experiences which leads me to assume you didn't heal a ally or the heal you used in question was weak leading to very little overdrive gain. or the wiki is wrong. @WoodenPotatoes we need your help for your own sake equipped with Healer and after saving see how much high, mega, or X-potion gives if any on a full hp character and maybe see how much if it dose work doubled with Wakka alchemist or Yuna big heals staff

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Oh man you guys I'm definitely talking about this in the next EP!

[@Xenrian.]

10 years ?! I‘ve been watching you for 10 years ?!?? Holy hell … i started watching you at like the middle of your FFX let’s play … you are amazing dude and even tho you don’t know me, you are a part of my life for a long long time now.

[@wasdicay473]

Glad to have caught up on your streams now, and eternally thankful for your dedication to projects like this that are long form. The original LP is my favorite LP of all time I watch it often, and I'm excited tomsee you challenged with problem solving bosses with this mod.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

I'm excited to see the later bosses for sure

[@q5123]

Hey WP. Loved FFX back in the day, and got into your channel with GW2. I watched your let's play of FFX when it came out and absolutely *loved it*. I genuinely think it's one of the best let's plays on KZbin. I've recommended so many people to watch it. It was apparent that you clearly loved the game, and it was almost a demonstration, or long-long form love letter, of that. I learnt so much about the game that I never explored in my childhood/teenage years with the game - and you presented in such a way that was perfect for someone like me who played it years past but never got too deep into its intricacies. I fell off GW2 at some point (the joys of adulthood and full time employment), and thus haven't kept up with your content all that much. Always been subbed and keeping tabs though. Crazy to believe it's been 10 years since then. Thank you so much for that series, WP. And can't wait to watch this. :)

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Thanks so much! Glad you liked the series and I hope this one is fun, too!

[@Somebody374-bv8cd]

Just wanted to say, I appreciate the amount of work you've put in for doing so many videos in a short span of time I hadn't even managed to watch your last few poe2 vods.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Hah that's not a problem! I actually think doing this FFX stuff is going to be easier than Poe2 because I won't be playing it off camera, lol.

[@Somebody374-bv8cd]

3:28:22 WP: "people have been waiting 10 years for this!" Damn straight.

[@Somebody374-bv8cd]

"The opening of this game is like an acid trip" That sums up most of Nomura's writing 🤣 Later in the vod: That comment you mentioned, about how someone said FFX's story is done and they can't add anymore to it, clearly hasn't played kingdom hearts and seen what a full powered Nomura smoking the best crack can come up with. Also 10/10 stream moment, you explained how the explain tutorial button again was defaulted to yes and it annoyed people - and you hit yes later.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Hah yeah you may have a point...

[@Somebody374-bv8cd]

I really love the Besaid island theme - the original version. FF10 has a lot of great music, but this theme (as well as the Gagezet theme and To Zanakand) I am especially fond of. The theme always gives me the image of running down a sunny beach with the wind on my face, always makes me nostalgic of days gone past.

[@JAM0LO]

Hey WP! I am so excited for this LP! Your FFX and FFX-2 LPs are my absolute favourite LPs ever. When you started doing FFXII I was super excited about it evolving into a similarly memorable playthrough but I assume something about that series didn't quite work out for you. I'm excited for this playthrough and interested to see how it works as a live playthrough. Have a holiday period and a happy new year!

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Basically I lost my PC and would be starting from zero again, heh.

[@simondalefjeldstad888]

I can’t believe it’s been 10 years since your last LP. Remember watching it while commuting to work. Crazy that I have been watching your videos for over 10 years… Something to think about: It’s been as long since your last LP as the timespan between Jecht and Tidus going to Spira 😂

[@soniaf8875]

Sinspawn Ammes at the start really reminds me of Penance, the top half and the way it wiggles like a leech, the way it glows as well

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Interesting, I never really saw that or thought about that comparison!

[@zeppo3K]

ever since you mentioned the fade cuts in this game in the original lp i haven't been able to not think about it

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Hah I don't actually remember talking about those at this point! Funny how some things stick and some don't.

[@tirzahbauer]

This mod is impressive. The person who did this should go apply for a dev job. I am definitely trying it out!

[@gmasterzach1592]

Can’t wait for more

[@Sukaki_Izamu]

so with the kimari fight it seems he goes for two dark attacks fallow by a burn so I think your meant to cheer on the dark attacks or heal and block the fire also having loner for the fight seeing as each turn gives you 16% of over drive and then the overdrive attack to ignore the blind debuff.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Yeah loner would have been absolutely massive for that fight

[@Sukaki_Izamu]

so the sin fin fight I believe you did it right at first kill the adds and tank a spin hit then kill it after or before it cheer again they should be small enough that any of the physical damage dealers if they also had max cheer. it would also be funny if you had Null-tide at that point you could block the sin wave attack. for the underwater sin fight you forgot a important mechanic swap weapons I believe is the fastest acction you can do beside defending both you and waka have two weapons at that point so insted of defending you could spam swap weapons to remove the blind quicker.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Whoa! The weapon swapping is great!

[@wet645]

Man I started a comment series on your FFX-2 videos and you came out with this. I cannot believe the last FFX let's play was 10 years ago. This is the first time that I've felt old because of a piece of media. Excited man. I hope you have all the success in the world, your videos really turn my day around.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Oh man I envy you to be honest I get that "old because of media" a lotttt now!

[@Sukaki_Izamu]

2:00:00 you maybe could pincer attack it you just can't use it on the first turn, after that you can ether use free 50hp or defend or heal and tank the hit after that you should have been allowed but you never used the free 50hp again because its a bait don't use it.

[@Phaymyr91]

That jellyfish battle at the end was so bs, lol. Like one thing is to make battles hard so you have to think about strategy, but that was just unfun: blind while forcing you to use physical attacks on a boss that can heal itself... so you are just waiting for a coin toss to go on your favor on a crit or a dodge? Hopefully it gets better with more options on the next part!

[@WoodenPotatoes]

I've learned since that weapon swapping could have cleared it quicker so not too bad!

[@Sukaki_Izamu]

1:22:20 assuming the all the tutorials cheats are the same you missed a X-potion in the Ruins "Hall" aka the door that explodes. ether way not a perfect 100% run do over.

[@bobbit_the_hobbit]

I think Waka might have been blind in this episode... 🤔

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Just for a moment!

[@Sukaki_Izamu]

2:40:45 Potatoes you failed FF shopping 101 never buy a status healing item the chest will provide more then enough you will ever need.

[@gknucklez]

I don't know what I would have done differently, but it feels like you wasted a lot of resources on Kimahri and Echuilles, I hope you don't need them later 😅