Final Fantasy X - What it looks like to fight Nemesis with maxed stats

[@luislaracuente]

The real question is, how does the monster arena dude restrain/keep captive stronger than Sin fiends.

[@RazielTheUnborn]

Lore wise they aren't stronger than Sin. Mechanics don't always translate to narrative. Even if we were to say these things are stronger than Sin, Sin can wipe out entire cities the size of Zanarkand, these fiends aren't causing the same degree of wide spread damage as Sin.

[@Swillo]

@@RazielTheUnborn is there even legitimate lore about these arena monsters? To me it’s a scenario of “this is a video game and video games need gameplay”

[@Northwite]

@@Swillo Well there is lore for the arena itself so I'd imagine the lore for these monsters would probably fit in there somewhere. Lorewise Nemesis ain't Sin so the Crusaders training on it might be good practice.

[@RazielTheUnborn]

@@Swillo As NorthernDragon pointed out, the Arena itself does have lore behind it and is used to train soldiers. The fiends inside have lore behind them before you face them as well. Can't find anything ATM but could have sworn nemisis even has lore behind it as to how it was out into the arena.

[@andchaos1]

em..... Pokeballs?

[@danielpayne7522]

😮

[@desireeheremaia7636]

It was satisfying to see

[@thereddemongaming3109]

All that damage and the battle is still taking this long. That shit is ridiculous 😂

[@unlimited971]

Laugh in penance

[@thereddemongaming3109]

@@unlimited971 isn't Nemesis more difficult than Penance?

[@lospollinos1978]

@@thereddemongaming3109 Nemesis is harder but Penance has a lot more HP

[@ne0n1nja247]

They probably could gave sped up the fight if they wanted to. Set up over drives and stuff but yeah if you wanna spam quick hit and auto attack you can still get it done. Its almost necessary on Penance tho. Those arms

[@Walamonga1313]

@@unlimited971 Laughs in Zanmato

[@ojosama]

The fact that it takes you around 10 minutes to beat this boss shows you how absolutely insanely power it is.

[@kevinw3601]

It took him 10 minutes because he is using celestial weapons and their skills are garbage. If he custom made tidus and wakka a celestial weapon with break dmg limit, double overdrive, triple overdrive, one mp cost and one for Rikku with break dmg limit alchemy one mp cost triple overdrive. That setup could end nemesis in less than 2 minutes if you want to manually fight it. Plus you can just kill him with zanmatto in a single hit too.

[@RienzelXIII]

@@kevinw3601 Okay but like with endgame superboss enemies, the fight itself is the entire point. If you just instantly one shot it with Zanmato just to say you beat it, why even bother? You didn't really gain anything out of doing it.

[@christianrodriguez1527]

And to get a reward for what? Personal achievement that you spent hours leveling up for no reason 😂

[@GG256_]

@@RienzelXIII Agreed, but look at every other sentence in that comment. The optimal strat is super op.

[@2xMoon]

@@kevinw3601 just goes to show there are many ways to play the game lol mine is not necessarily the "best" but it's what I find most enjoyable

[@ssg8335]

End game for all FF... Auto life and normal attack

[@jeremybrandt5779]

There’s auto life in 7?

[@adrianhopcroft9915]

@@jeremybrandt5779 Final attack-revive

[@mohdfadzli7905]

@@adrianhopcroft9915 final attack - pheonix summon

[@Noexistente]

Yeah, same story almost always... I even remember in FF6 ,4x attack + 2 Ultima swords...

[@alexmh6131]

So boring then....it's all about the journey in ffx, once your that leveled, you know nothing is going to cause an issue

[@hitman5782]

Nemesis:"Understandable, have a good day."

[@eightshotringcaps]

Mad respect dude! I just replayed this for the 8th time on switch! Favourite game ever.

[@jesuscastillo9922]

🐐 comment

[@celebrei]

Try the Pbirdman Mod it’s so much harder but fun

[@WalrusMcDonald12n2na2]

8 times? My friend you bow to no one

[@princeecho8317]

OMG I NEVER SAW A GRID LIKE THAT! The perfection! 😅‼️

[@jehremya7330]

I did the same thing on the original damn ps2 version.....lots and lots of arena grinding

[@princeecho8317]

@@jehremya7330 i was trying to do that now on my Nintendo switch. And I agree. It’s ALOT of grinding like you said

[@anagramconfirmed1717]

@@jehremya7330 yea but nobody cares if you did it or not bc nobody's here watching YOUR video about how you did it. Dummy. Stop lying.

[@walmartpimp2]

Mine was like that, but when upgraded to PS5 and sold the PS4 I didn’t copy the save correctly

[@earthpond8043]

So I was thinking... most the walkthroughs of this game all say the celestial weapons are the best you can get for each character. However some of these weapons have slots that are pointless in regards to damage or not helpful in a battle like double ap or gillionaire. It might be interesting to craft weapons for those characters and rather add first strike, some evade/counter, half mp or 1 mp or even alchemy might be dope paired with armour that has auto Phoenix which would then be a full life becomes a mega Phoenix down.

[@2xMoon]

you're somewhat right about this but there is a hidden algorithm with celestial weapons where but the higher your HP the more damage you do (except for Auron which is the opposite) and the higher likelihood of hitting a critical (you can hear the difference in the sound when you strike). first strike is unecessary in the late game with 255 agility and auto haste. auto phoenix only revives with 9,999hp not 99,999. i agree the MP ones are useful

[@earthpond8043]

@@2xMoon ah gotcha I haven’t quite got to the 99,999 HP yet still at 9,999 so didn’t know auto Phoenix with alchemy wouldn’t do full life like it does where I’m at now. I threw in the towel on acquiring Tidus celestial lol. Can’t be bothered.

[@2xMoon]

@@earthpond8043 haha dont give up, the best benefit of unlocking all celestial weapons is the sense of achievement

[@earthpond8043]

@@2xMoon well I did get 3 seconds and that was good enough for me haha if only one bird would not have hit me. Was at 13 balloons and 2 birds... 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

@@2xMoon gotta point out that it's been tested that 255 agility is no different than 170... so you really could stop at that point and get more evasion or accuracy if you wanted. also, that algorithm for celestial weapons might be why they ignore defense. They still can't ignore armored status w/o piercing or armor break though. any characters you want to spam quick hit on a boss like penance might need these weapons either way.

[@minyaw1234]

I remember playing this game and I got maxed out stats pretty fast by grinding that mushroom that gives teleport spheres in the monster farm. It can be killed pretty fast and I killed that thing for hours - I was a kid and had time - maxed out all characters inside 2-3 days.

[@MetalShadow5]

Which one was that if I may ask?

[@krambob2]

You need erase spheres, lvl 4 everything to max out grid

[@esteveguineueta2328]

I find tomberri strategy faster :)

[@AnimaTweek]

@@esteveguineueta2328 tonberry is faster. Sleep Sprout is an easy kill, but only gives 10k AP a kill. You can get millions with the right gear with a single Don Tonberry fight

[@GRIMLOCK07]

Including "Luck" ??

[@dotmadhack]

Took me six hours straight of just adding spheres to the grid for each character. Can’t imagine clearing spheres and readding to make it look visually good too.

[@demonkingt]

Thats why i beat penance and then decided delete luck sheres to do the platinum trophy. No way am i getting all those luck spheres lol

[@jared5200]

its time consuming. but its so aesthetically pleasing to look at when you rebuild the entire sphere grid like this. generally only the most hardcore completionists will bother doing this.

[@quadblaster69420]

Thank goodness for the steam version of the game. You can speed up the gameplay. It's a huge help.

[@anthrazzit9219]

I remember when i played the game for the first time (for 2 years). This boss was a toast (no character died and wakka killed hm in a few turns with overdrive). but it took me 3-4 weeks to max the stats cause it was my first time to play this game. and it was great!!!

[@ryanshields3788]

Don't even want to think how long it took to get to this stage haha! Enjoyed this, thanks for the video.

[@jakewelsh5782]

I know right? Lol

[@yaboi2945]

108 hours

[@lostregattostregone1289]

@@yaboi2945 How the hell did you do it in 108 hours? I needed about 180 to max them all :/

[@yaboi2945]

@@lostregattostregone1289 I didn’t mean me, I’m at 108 hours and getting there but not maxed, I meant the guy who posted the video when he goes on the menu it says 108 hours and I’d also like to know how, I have beat all the dark aeons but penance beats the shit out of me

[@lostregattostregone1289]

@@yaboi2945 Oh ok, I don't know, if you play on pc you can speed up the game up to x4

[@SunsCam0531]

With auto-phx and 9999 hp you can almost immediately get an overdrive instantly with some of these end-game monsters and use attack reels

[@biggsdarklighter6777]

Yes, agreed. Break HP Limit is a waste, but my guy was just going for the big number display.

[@DaGuyz47]

​@biggsdarklighter6777 not really a waste for most monsters who can't hit 5x9s. Overdrive attack reels is the most OP attack in the game yes.

[@robertsides3626]

This has the ultimate energy of "God damn it. I'm going to grind and beat this guy no matter how long it takes. The main story can wait!" We've all been there....

[@xavierzlotorowiez316]

well at this point u must be near the very end of main story cuz for training center u gotta farm monsters inside Sin ;)

[@amit_patel654]

Lol I had that feeling when trying to beat that weird boss in the desert in X-2 😅

[@najiru1984]

what makes me sad playing FFX is when you have done with super bosses like Nemesis and Penance, and you ended the final boss with only 1 hit. Jecht is like 2 hit, Aeon battle 1 hit ea, and Yu Yevon 1 hit...it feels...soo anticlimatic....

[@c-red4637]

its that weird ff logic where the superbosses are far stronger than the final boss.

[@vexless6343]

@@c-red4637 I guess they leave super bosses as optional because imagine a Sephiroth this strong 💀

[@bmaxime8771]

or finish the game story before going to beat superbosses, i did it that way and had no problems, this dude spoils his game then complains xD

[@destroyermcw626]

@@bmaxime8771Yeah lol game is great. All that and decides to complain

[@otherworldnemesis]

It'll be great if newer jrpgs make a mechanic where if you beat all optional superbosses, there is an option to make the final story boss much more powerful than all the superbosses. I remember Star Ocean Second Evolution did that. You need to do something optional (quite out of the way too) and it makes the final story boss able to cast spells WHILE MOVING and those spells one shot you. I was level 80 when I first beat the story boss normally. After I did that optional thing, my characters were level 250+ and I still couldn't beat the boss without cheesing

[@TheSuperHeroOfLove]

I've done this back on the PS2 Era! Good Job My Friend!

[@anagramconfirmed1717]

You're a liar. You never even owned a ps2. Admit you're a liar, it's better for your mind.

[@aciarduce]

First playthrough of FFX I went rather quick and did just enough to progress the story. Shortly after getting access to the ship's ability to fly everywhere I went to Omega dungeon. And I could NOT touch Omega. I felt weak and pitiful. I had already had serious issues beating Seymour on Mt. Gagazet. So. After feeling down for a week, I deleted my file and restarted the game. And I did not move quickly. Every area I grinded for a time. I moved some of the characters into adjacent sphere-grid areas earlier. The moment it could be done, I went out of my way to get monsters captured, celestial weapon components, and extra spheres for later. I had no problem with any of the story this time, and went straight to Omega. I got everything ready. Everyone had their overdrives active, and the same for all of my Aeons. I used Rikku's mix to give party buffs then switched her out for Auron. Then Yuna did an Overdrive summon on the sisters. Delta Attack NOW!! So this was the first time I had seen max damage in FFX..... And just for your information, that is actually the exact amount that Omega has in maximum health....99,999 I uh... I thought I was going to have to summon and do this with just about everyone. I was ready for an epic battle, against a foe that had bested me so many times before..... One shot. With 3 characters getting experience at all.... So, with great sadness, I reloaded from the start of Omega dungeon and went back to the boss, and proceeded to have everyone in the party do... something. Because I had to hold back now to not kill him before everyone could get exp. It was at this moment I realized that I may have gone a little overboard. Welp! Nothing to do but everything else now. All celestial weapons, everything captured. Nemesis here wasn't all that hard really, but it was for sure a longer fight. I did not have max stats at this point, but Lulu, Yuna, and Rikku had all cleared each other's zones by this point and Yuna was eating through Tidus'. Damn what a good game!

[@RedSpade37]

Neat!! Any other good gaming stories?

[@mikeduff2070]

really? Both Ultima and Omega were pretty simple after my first playthrough, the dungeon itself was a bit challenging but both bosses were simple to beat. I didnt know about the celestial weapons either till i baught the strategy guide.

[@amharbinger]

Why did they waste their time with the final summoning pilgrimage? This 1 guy made multiple monsters more powerful than Sin and somehow is able to control them.

[@roronoazoro99]

that’s gonna be awhile to get maxed out stats for that fight and I gotta manage to do everything in the bevelle cloister perfect before I get bahamut in order to get the aeon that “Seymour” uses

[@Zharkos]

i think the real takeaway here is that if you have max stats, it's more a button mashing contest than actual strategy. i didn't realize it only had 3 moves, and 2 of them don't really do anything. ultima is basically negligible too just because auto life exists and it only exists to waste 2 or 3 turns healing after

[@YumiYuna.]

Love 10 too much. Still one of my favorite final fantasy game ever.

[@aerowashburns6004]

I wish each character had a couple of sphere grid skills that were reserved only for them just so they could be distinguished a bit. At this point it doesnt even matter who your party consists of.

[@Tehmora]

That can sometimes work well though. Like if you like a certain character but they were weak and you couldn't use them as often. But in this case, you could.

[@norbertsenfglas6591]

It does kinda, because of the speed of the different chars and the ods

[@ballom29]

Yuna : I am a joke to you ? Also I think it already exist : it's called overdrives And what a surprise most ultra lategame comp have rikku-wakka-tidus because they have the best ones, on top of havign some of the best ultimate weapons

[@kevincardona1509]

You have the basics and advanced. The advanced grid allows everyone to learn everything.

[@ballom29]

@@kevincardona1509 hum no, even on the basic grid eventually you can break/bypass all spheres separating all the characters. There is not somewhere a specific character can't go .

[@MaxJohnson13]

Author: maxes out stats in 1000+ hours Me: haha Zanmato goes brrrrrr Nice job, btw!

[@BigTArmada]

I love that background animation/art at the NPC, such a great homage to the older titles

[@tonyelectionfraud669]

that filled out sphere chart was quite satisfying

[@2xMoon]

Haha it was a nightmare to reorganise everything. I'll work towards sharing my layout so if people want to copy it, theyre more than welcome to.

[@jehremya7330]

I did the same thing on the original ps2 version. It took so damn long to delete every node and replace with +4's and all in their own region. I opted to not have the high mp and hp though, it was pointless since you are going to be reviving with auto phoenix for these kind of battles. 255 all stats and i think i got near 50k hp and 500 mp. Nice to see somebody else who grinded that damn monster arena fml it was a chore!

[@dhekar]

Did you get Luck of all characters to 255? I remember that stat being incredibly time consuming to max out

[@jehremya7330]

@@dhekar i had all stats at 255, yes. lol. i wish i still had my old ps2 memory card to back my claim, but trust me....i put in A LOT of FFX hours between blitzball and the monster arena

[@johnpantag472]

I remember fighting him for 4 hours and I screamed when I beat him. I was just stupid to it have grinded enough for HP. I had only 9999.

[@wingman4717]

FFX was the first FF I truly enjoyed, most likely because of the strategy guide, overall ease of finding everything, and the internet. I played FFVII and FFIX, but never completed those games as well as I did FFX. You felt so powerful in FFX with the celestial weapons that made your characters very strong.

[@2xMoon]

hard out! but the thing i really liked about FFX is even when you read a guide and discover some new content. it was still a challenge to complete it. when i first found out about the celestial weapons it took me ages to get the hang of all the side quest/mini games

[@forevergogo]

I love how the very First thing you see after you beat him and go through the loot screen and all the hype starts fading.... Monster Arena man: "Now what?"

[@shpookee]

Yooo that evasion and accuracy though. Dark yohimbo would have your ass. 255 in both so no matter how strong your attacks are it don't matter if they all miss. I guess you could double cast blast him with that max magic but it wouldn't beat hitting with celestial weapons ignoring defense. And on that note farming magic spheres and hp spheres is waaaay more time consuming Than agility or evasion. But props for not going in and just Waka overdrive him into the ground entrusting everyone else's overdrive to Waka. Nice vid. Sorry for the rant lol respect to the grind

[@2xMoon]

Hahaha thanks mate the grindiest part was actually fortune spheres i had to fight earth eater around 420 times to max LUK on all 7 characters. Max Luck is better than max acc and eva combined and i can hit dark yojimbo no probs. Infact i farmed him for break hp limit and ribbon accesories

[@shpookee]

@@2xMoon whaaaaaaaat honestly I've never grinded luck for that reason, waaaaay harder than Magic for sure you got me there. I had no idea luck could Trump out the other stats. Thanks for the info! Keep up the good work my dude

[@kazumi1315]

@@shpookee you dont need evasion or accuracy if you have maxed luck, i dont put any nodes at accurary, and it only tooks me 8 minutes to beat 4 dark yoijimbo 😁😁😁

[@Adb07d]

Who is upvoting these dumb comments?

[@ganjapanda25]

lol i love how hes like "ugh... FINE... I'll put auto-life on.."

[@2xMoon]

Hahahaha that is exactly how i felt

[@xavi835]

The main problem of this game is that battles become simple with advanced stats. The progression was not well defined

[@ggarzagarcia]

That is not the case with the Dark Aeon and Penance fights, at least. You need to anticipate attack patterns, counter stats, party usage, etc. But in a sense, you’re right: advanced stats carry you throughout most of the game until you decide to do Monster Arena or Dark Aeons/Penance fights…after 20+ hours into the game. A little bit too late for a challenge, which becomes optional.

[@lucasdarianschwendlervieir3714]

@@ggarzagarcia I just finished all trophies and I agree with the OP, for normal playthroughs that don't involve challenges, every boss is easy with enough preparation. Even penance. My ribbon and auto phoenix set up wasnt working well against penance so I changed it. I used 9999hp, auto protect auto haste auto potion defence 20% for the frontline Rikku, Wakka and Tidus. Used trio of 9999 for 100% auto potion heals, ultra null all for cheer 5, Freedom X for 0 mana and hyper mighty G for the auto phoenix just in case. The rest is easy, just keep arms out of commission and use dispel. If I do another playthrough I will probably prepare less to make the game more challenging.

[@watermelon520b]

@@lucasdarianschwendlervieir3714 well this game was developed over 20+ years ago, the ps2 could not handle a ton of crazy stuff and the game was pretty groundbreaking for the era. we’re spoiled now by all the new tech and forget how far games have come.

[@LeedleLee457]

That's called "grinding".. The higher the level you are, the easier the game becomes. Literally every game is like that, even FromSoft games.

[@jamminen74]

Yeah this was like most boring....

[@koro527]

Maxing out the sphere grid isn't too bad until you get to HP and Luck. The Giant, Earth Eater and bubble dude gets tedious after awhile.

[@koro527]

so usually, like I'll get enough HP and luck to fight the dark aeons and call it quits. Maybe one day I'll really go through and max the damn thing.

[@2xMoon]

@@koro527 haha yeah HP one wasnt too bad i just auto battle coz i was so strong that i dont die at that point and the the spheremorpth was super annoying but atleast you only needed about 30 battles to get all the luck spheres you need.....but earth eater oh my god....i was doing the set OD mode to victor, kill 2 dingos, attack reels to knock him down and then quick hit it to death repeat 200+ times

[@HadienReiRick]

I remember hating how useless kimarhi was post game. I hated that so much plus i didn't see the point in making the bosses damage sponges, Once you survive 6 attacks against a boss you can survive a hundred. Where's the challenge, the fun in fighting the same dude a hundred+ turns? In this fight you had to deal over 110 hits to slay Nemesis (has 10 million HP), and in all that time you had 3 strategies: Attack/Quick Hit, Curaga/Esuna, or Full-Life... for hundreds of turns. once you reached the stats check and figured the formula, the fight wasn't a challenge anymore, just tedious. So one playthrough I enabled a mod that removed the 99999 damage cap (no other changes). The entire story played exactly the same, but once postgame hit it cut out literal days of mindless grinding and fighting arena battles half-asleep (I bet the same thing happened to everyone that grinded postgame). Now, my Kimarhi is an actual beast, he finally gets his moment in my frontline, and deals so much damage in a single turn he can 3-shot Penance.

[@Yoshimatsu414]

Only really played through this game a couple times around the years it was new. Never even knew this version of the boss existed. This boss is ridiculous 😂

[@unlimited971]

It s not even the arch boss. Jrpgs has that notion that the secret boss is way harder than final boss.it s for the obe thzt really grind the mechanisms of the game

[@namonamo494]

@@unlimited971 meh the arch boss aint rly the arch boss neither if you think about der richter strickly following the good strat will prevent him from doing the real bad things (kill the arms!), stuff like magnus sister can be tricker with bad rng

[@demonkingt]

you have to collect 10 of all catchables enemies. i think maybe also win all other arena fights too i think. not sure on 2nd half but i for sure know you need the 10 of every thing,.

[@unlimited971]

@@namonamo494 ozma in ff9, ultima weapon in ff8 etc

[@unlimited971]

@@namonamo494 by the time you arrive to der richter the whole dark aeon was the warm up

[@callmeshaggy5166]

With default compatibility (Never used him before), Grand Summon yojimbo will use Zanmato around 25% of the time with just 5000 gil, for those trying to tackle this stuff underleveled. With full compatibility and Grand Summon, it's about 32% for 5000 gil. Edit: it's 1/3 default, 1/4 at zero, and about 1/2.5 with full compatibility. And it's 512 gil, not 5000.

[@2xMoon]

I find it funny if i decide to use zanmato on someone like seymour. since he talks so much shit in every cutscenes and you just slice him in half with one hit. Even Tidus says "you talk too much seymour" during one the battles xD hahahaha

[@AndresFnt]

I played this gams to death as a teenager and i can’t remember if i beat this guy but i likely did

[@blueboi12jj]

Ultimate version of Utlima and Omega. I don’t think I ever beat him but then again I got this game when I was 12 so lol. My favorite thing to do was raise everyone up in each new area until we overkilled every boss. Bro, I actually had the guide book from my local library to find all the celestial weapons. Fun times 👏🏼

[@2xMoon]

Thats so cool lol i remember the first time i discovered celestial weapons. At first im like what is this useless no ap thing that i cant sell haha

[@blueboi12jj]

@@2xMoon bro right?! Remember how hard it is to get each sigil. I used to be so try hard that I would try getting the one where you have to dodge 100 lightening bolts. Oh man I wanna go play now 🥲

[@bayumahendra1797]

Took me 30hour to full grind max hp other stats is easy to grind but grinding luk into the max is the real pain

[@longebane]

How does it feel to spend 30 hours of your life to that task

[@bayumahendra1797]

@@longebane super boring af, but its much better compared to grinding luk

[@anagramconfirmed1717]

I think you're lying.

[@Magerquark]

Damn you have played the game a lot. I kinda wish I started playing the steam version earlier instead of PS2 so I had old safefile I could play once in a while like this

[@I_amBackPack]

I was never motivated enough to dodge a hundred lighning bolts

[@DerekMoore82]

Wasn't it 200 lightning bolts?

[@douglaswilson2375]

Yeah, nope.

[@CaptainBuggyTheClown]

Wait seriously someone tell me where this came up in game? I sort of speed-ran through FFX/X2 a year or so ago and I never did any of the after game stuff that it seems like all final fantasies have.

[@pushfrog18]

All that work and it’s still a hard ass fight

[@clintferguson6599]

Man, that's hardcore grinding right there.

[@kaczan3]

I can't believe I used to have so much time that I could grind this

[@anagramconfirmed1717]

You didn't, and you most certainly did not "grind like this." You never came close to achieving anything near this. Stop lying your way through life.

[@rakakakarakakaka4907]

Dude, what’s your problem? Plenty of people have maxed the sphere grid and beaten penance, it takes less than 200 hours to do.

[@anagramconfirmed1717]

@@rakakakarakakaka4907 post a video, liar

[@x-bowstriker3789]

Spam dark yojimbo to get armor with 4 slot break HP limit, ribbon + 2 empty slot for auto protect & auto haste. Just don't defeat all dark yojimbo and you can back to cave to farm. Including dark matter & master sphere.

[@kazumi1315]

Poor dark yojimbo, getting trap in a loop, just to make a farming fiends for dark matter, weapons and armor 😂😂😂

[@TeeTarik]

how to makr the sphere grid looks like that？I thought my hp only can get to 9999

[@2xMoon]

it was a huge grind lol it's basically the same process of stat maxing any stat, there's an item called the "clear sphere" that you can buy from the monster arena for 10k gil each that erases sphere nodes on the grid then you fight bosses from "species conquest" section which you unlock by capturing 10 of every type of that monster. These bosses drop stat spheres that you can place on empty sphere nodes. they will always give you +4 stat or +40MP or +300 HP as opposed to the crappy ones your start the game with. For HP specifically you need to kill Ironclad (unlocked by capturing 10 of every iron giant) and if you're a perfectionist like me, you need to kill him around 166 times for 332 HP spheres (330*300 = 99600 HP taking into account the lowest base HP character Rikku and all your party should have 99,999 hp) I rearranged the entire grid but you dont have to do that to get 99,999 hp

[@shaquantucker7463]

@@2xMoon especially for those luck spheres they was a bitch to get and too bad we couldnt get this stronger before facing yuniesca

[@Guitarmaster7272]

How did you change nodes on the sphere grid from what they originally were, is this a hacked version?

[@mohdfirdausaminddin3919]

There are 2 grid you can choose when you start the game, original and expert. Of course each has their pros and cons

[@2xMoon]

there's an item in the end game called "clear sphere" that you can buy from the monster arena which you can erase a node and replace it with a better one. no hacks needed just takes a bloody long time lol because it requires a lot of game knowledge and preparation (i.e. 3xAP 3xOD OD>AP weapons to get sphere levels fast, capturing 10 of every monster to unlock bosses, kottos sphere extractions to get power/magic/speed spheres etc.)

[@GiorgioGatti89]

Ok... What's going on with the sphere grid?

[@2xMoon]

i had a lot of free time clearly hahaha

[@Guiff]

All those hits at the crouch, it was necessary?

[@wiganeldar]

I did this on ps3 but only maxed 4 characters and im sure i was hitting 300 hours. How you manage this in just 108 hours lmao

[@2xMoon]

haha when i did it on PS2 it took me over 350hrs too. PC version has a 4x speed feature which makes monster capturing much faster

[@xTheBigDripx]

This man grinded the luck spheres. That alone should be the achievement!!!

[@2xMoon]

yep... 60 luck spheres and 420 fortunte spheres...

[@xxSideSwipexx]

Wasn't there a way to craft weapons that gave you your LB faster? I swear I remember crafting ult weapons with max stats and triple lb

[@2xMoon]

Yep you can craft weapons to give you double/triple OD. but celestial weapons are not crafted, theyre earned through side quests/minigames. highly recommend crafting or getting 3xOD 3xAP and OD->AP weapon if you want to max stats

[@xxSideSwipexx]

@@2xMoon I know but you could craft weapons and armor just as good if not better than the celestial weapons

[@2xMoon]

@@xxSideSwipexx not necessarily, celestial weapons have hidden algorithms that give it critical or armour piercing strikes. It also does more damage based on your characters %hp. If you need something for mid-end game content then crafted is more than enough but end game superbosses id highly recommend celestial

[@Heliess69]

Ah Don Tonberry, I knew him well.

[@destroyermcw626]

@@xxSideSwipexxCelestials better and ignores defense screw that crafting crap lol

[@Its_Poco_Loco]

How do I even get to fight him? I don’t have him unlocked yet

[@2xMoon]

You need to capture 10 of every monster in the game and beat every arena creation boss at least once then talk to the guy again and he will unlock it

[@Parmenter1983]

I use a 9999 build for the end of the game. Easier to fill overdrives. Then use multihit overdrives like tidus and wakka.

[@nekogod]

Indeed and the ability to fully heal much more easily. Break HP limit in 10 was more of a hinderance than a help tbh.

[@tonim89]

Break HP Limit is a big waste of slots in the Sphere Grid. Max defense + Max Luck + Auto Protect can keep you alive against almost anything, and it's a lot easier to keep your celestial weapons within the max damage HP.

[@jonathanabgrall6075]

@@nekogod Depends how you build. I have one tank character (Kimhari) with Break HP Limit/Ribbon/Auto Phoenix/Auto Protect with Dancer Limit mode as his Ultimate Weapon has Evade and Counter, i just leave him in Sentinel stance most of the time so he soaks most of the damage going on the group and can survive basically anything. Whenever he has his limit i just Entrust it to whoever else i need it on at the time (usually Yuna to use Anima's Oblivion, otherwise Wakka/Tidus if i don't feel like sitting in the summon's animation lol and sometime Rikku if i need Hyper Mighty G in a pinch). On more offensive characters i agree its kinda wasted.

[@Vincrand]

@@jonathanabgrall6075 I always played the end game with pretty much 6 times the same character (except for overdrive). I like your take on it with the tank, although I think it's clearing speed will be slower. You'd also need to grind longer for hp and other spheres just so 1 out of 6 has more hp. So it's sounds inefficient, but more fun in role-play.

[@jonathanabgrall6075]

@@Vincrand Oh yeah its def not a speedrun strat or anything. Nowadays i play games just to relax :P It does save me time on other annoying grinds like Ribbon on all my characters or stuff like that tho.

[@gramyotron7243]

Hmm. I used to farm limits on all characters and use entrust to Waka who was spamming Attack Reels like crazy. Much faster approach.

[@2xMoon]

yep that would be a faster way but like i mentioned in the description i wanted to show case that you can do it without overdrives or aeons with ease when you have max stats

[@anagramconfirmed1717]

No you didn't. You saw that "strat" in another video or in a guide or something and added it into your reply here as though you knew by firsthand experience. Admit this was a lie and just congratulate the guy on what he accomplished.

[@markledbetter5960]

I'm curious how you maxed out in just over 100 hours

[@2xMoon]

Lot of game knowledge on how to min max and 4x speed on pc version while monster hunting

[@italobrilhante1769]

Congrats, great fight!

[@DerekMoore82]

What's the perk that auto heals all the characters after every move?

[@2xMoon]

Auto Regen. technically Auto potion is better but i cant be bothered always burning through potions and replenishing it lol

[@DerekMoore82]

@@2xMoon okay, thanks!

[@MTSpade]

I never understood this, I’ve been playing my game for what seems like forever & I still dont have maxed out grid, then you have to get all the spheres, & then what, delete most of the old ones to add new luck hp & strength I guess just to get high enough lvls? That seems like its not even worth the trouble for the amt of time that would take

[@2xMoon]

I'm a bit of an OCD completionist when it comes to video games hahaha

[@christopherharbauer8374]

But Nemesis counters with Ultima for each overdrive used

[@SmollPinkCat]

Is it not possible to get 255 on every stat on every character?

[@2xMoon]

unfortunately there arent enough sphere nodes on the grid lol but acc and eva is negligible when you have luk

[@TsukimiAsep]

Wait, so remastered version could surpass HP 10k more? If i remember correctly, PS2 only cap 9999

[@2xMoon]

nope you were always able to go over 9999HP as long as you have break hp limit on your armour. dark aeons drop amour with break hp limit or alternatively you can craft one using 30x wings to discovery which you can get from killing shinryu from monster arena. maybe i should start making guides hahaha

[@Sehbius]

How come you didn’t give 255 evasive and 255 accuracy in sphere grid?

[@2xMoon]

255 LUK gives the same benefit as a combination of 255 ACC and 255 EVA as well as other hidden algorithms like crit. Late game bosses will hit you regardless so theres no point having evasion. A base of 30 is sufficient and the rest can be thrown into ACC as a buffer

[@justinnelson4530]

Why didn't u jus use an albed potion when they got poisoned?

[@2xMoon]

I was stubborn I wanted to do it without OD Aeons and items lol which is why it looks really inefficient to some people 😆

[@michaelsierra70]

How you did the sphere grid like that

[@2xMoon]

LOTS of (arguably unnecessary) griding and knowledge about the game lol.... involves the monster arena.

[@stest2935]

Probably spend like 20 odd hours playing this game the first time in 2003 to beat it. Don't think would have the time to grind this out to get max specs. Might be much easier to use a hack to max the specs and get the auto life and ultimate weapons. Still the bosses are crazy.

[@robertarrowood3651]

Why doesn't be have ribbon on each character? That would cancel out that status effects. 2 why dosnt he have each everyone's overdrive set to ally so when one person goes the other overdrive goes up? He he spent all that time maxing character and reseting the grid and is still fighting wrong. 3 he should have went in with overdrive already full and ready to to go. Overdrive tidus 3 times. Just entrust your overdrive from the other two characters.

[@2xMoon]

lol please read the description. this is a showcase that you dont need overdrives to beat this boss when you have max stats. to your other points, 1. i don't really like using ribbon on all my characters unless the boss has instant death/petrify and shatter. that's my preference i rather have an auto healing. 2.this is not an overdrive show case. 3. wakka wouldve been better than tidus with attack reels but again the point of this video is to show you dont need OD or aeons to beat him

[@robertarrowood3651]

@jLyf but you've re did a the whole grid when there are other faster ways to go about what you did and easier methods than what you showed us is what I was trying to point out. You have a spell for auto res that would have been better than putting it on an item but it is a person preference I can agree to that.

[@2xMoon]

@@robertarrowood3651 oh yep i agree with you there're definitely faster and easier ways to beat this boss with my stats but it just wasnt what i was aiming to show in this video lol

[@robertarrowood3651]

@jLyf so why make it more difficult? And the fact you re set the whole grid seemed like a waste of time to me?

[@2xMoon]

@@robertarrowood3651 everyone likes to enjoy games their own way i guess :P

[@arziel340]

Rikku have not only 9999 potion,she have 99999 potion,too with her limit break. Together with Auto-Portion its still different yo fight in speed and HP heal. By they way i remember i always grind luck first in FF10,cos is a pain so i Starting it first. Best Strategy: First completely activating Spero Table by Grind in Omega-Ruine,than grind luck and in the End Grind for empty spheres and 4 States gems. Don Tombery Strategy is very useful for grind after one workround in Omega-Ruine. 1Million AP /per 15-20 Minutes. But i find crafting weapons better than Solar ultimate weapon. Yes i now they have ignore defense and HIGH CRIT, More Dmg by full Or High HP Bar. But Ability like MP 0/1 for example are l way better than many solar weapon Abilities or defense 20% working even after 255 in scaling. Best regards from Germany and good Gameplay i now how pain it is to grind this States bro *hug*

[@2xMoon]

good insight and great tips, thanks! ive set up my playthrough based on how i find it fun but definitely there are many ways to reach and play the end game

[@michaelc.brownsr4680]

The Calm Lands are powerful! They have the ability to hold every single Monster in the book! And..... Keep them from escaping!

[@Josh-cn5yp]

You rearranged the whole grid??? Takes commitment 💀

[@2xMoon]

Haha yep i have a template drawn out and nodes counted precisely enough to max stat and everything.

[@Josh-cn5yp]

@@2xMoon thats crazy, I've never even completed one character's grid in my 14 years of playing this game , let alone that😂

[@datagrab]

*It's called PC gaming a.k.a cheats. Good luck doing this in consoles.*

[@Ubu90]

@@datagrab no its 100% doable normally, just takes alot of work

[@Josh-cn5yp]

@@datagrab its perfectly legit it would just probably take you 200 hours or so

[@willmccutcheon218]

Lots of nostalgia in this video. Your overdrive mode should have been set different, Warrior or something. Continuing to watch probably should have also used overdrives lol.

[@2xMoon]

It is set to warrior but i think i got cursed. I wanted to showcase the fight without using aeons or OD otherwise its too easy lol

[@light1888]

i played ffx tons of times but never got to beat omega ruins because i was so under level, this time i'm determined to be somewhat be overpower and beat all the bosses

[@bravefrontier1725]

I was amazed by your sphere grid, after that i realized that you beated the whole content in 108h. Now i am wondering how that is even possible, can you enlighten me?

[@2xMoon]

i did it on the HD remaster which has an option to 4x speed and increased encounters. Helped a lot with monster capturing which is the part that usually takes the longest. I did this on PS2 once and it took over 250hrs

[@JacobRyuu]

I never fought him without max stats. Was kinda just the norm I thought?

[@usamarafieck1715]

How are you still leveling up.

[@senokkubrick7849]

How many time of playing for this?

[@dudenotsoperfect9366]

The real question is: how long did it take you to max all stats?

[@2xMoon]

My latest save file i did it in under 90hrs from starting the game then killed all the side bosses and finished the game in 96 hrs or so. Stats maxing alone probably took 50hrs if we incl monster capturing. Even on PCs 4x speed. Im thinking of making vids/guides on it to show my progression method

[@JG_Wentworth92]

@@2xMoon yes please

[@georgeguero6138]

It would’ve been nice if they had other secret boss is throughout the Final Fantasy games that we just ran across. That would be so very interesting.

[@2xMoon]

do you mean bosses that appeared in previous games? Omega weapon does makes a reappearance from FF8

[@georgeguero6138]

@@2xMoon no my bad what I meant to say is it would be cool to find some lore in going into these old games and still finding secrets but in 2023 we pretty much have all of that accomplished

[@2xMoon]

@@georgeguero6138 so true haha but you never know.. in FF9 they discovered a hidden cutscene like a decade after its release

[@georgeguero6138]

@@2xMoon just cause I feel like you know what you’re talking about. I’ve only played Final Fantasy seven and eight and I’m currently playing it. What would you recommend for me in the next final fantasy series that has a lot of those secrets or battles ext like final fantasy 7 does

[@2xMoon]

@@georgeguero6138 if you like hidden challenges and exploration to find optional bosses/items then I'd suggest FF12. Ive sunk 250hrs on one run on PS2 and i still havent got half of the stuff lol there's so much side content for example there's a boss that can takes hours to kill and bosses that only spawn after certain conditions (e.g. weather, game clock time etc)

[@FilmFan-iv7sz]

I am 105 hours in and no where near max stats and I only using wakka, rikku and yuna and auron

[@zhakken5702]

It takes a long long time for this level, lots of dedication

[@minhdo3482]

I'm guessing this is over 200hrs, coz I was over 200hrs & my stats wasn't nearly as high as thid

[@2xMoon]

my latest save i got there in about 90hrs on PC because of the 4x speed feature but my PS2 version took over 350 hours lol

[@brandonodom5316]

I have beaten nemesis on ps2 but I now play HD remastered on ps5. Nemesis counter attacks everything I do.....why?

[@sebastianstyles9750]

Would have been nice to read the description of the Arcane Ring for winning the battle but.. never mind.

[@2xMoon]

haha woops at that point in the game, no drop interested me so i just sell everything. it wouldve been something like a 3-4 slot with break HP limit on it

[@kaikwonfu2633]

This is def not max stats. Even rikku does max damage with any given attack. They all do.

[@Shadoefax760]

Why didn't you have auto remedy on? And you should of been using aeons to take the hits

[@2xMoon]

I wanted to do this without aeons or items or overdrive lol that's why it took so long. I did put it in the video description but no one read that 🤣

[@Shadoefax760]

@@2xMoon lol well fuck me huh lol my bad man I totally didn't read it either but knowing now that it was a conscious choice to beat it without the crutch of using aeons to take the hits or auto health items is pretty fucking impressive bro. Mad respect man!

[@daltonaguiar5322]

Legends say Nemesis is still drying his nails painting to this day...

[@stephensturges5711]

how do you Max the stats like that?!

[@matthewlin1182]

Is this Final Fantasy X or Final Fantasy X HD Remaster version

[@2xMoon]

This is the HD remaster version but you can achieve the same result on the original. i've done it before on PS2 but it will take significantly longer

[@JonesCrimson]

Do the Celestial Weapons have counterattack?

[@2xMoon]

some do, each one has different abilities

[@pirxie1127]

Nemesis be like: Why do I hear boss music playing?

[@codycockerill2885]

Thought you said max stats not everything 255 i love this i did this on my ps2 lol

[@2xMoon]

haha maybe my title is slightly misleading but as you know theres not enough spheres slots on the grid for it...evasion at 30 plus 255 luck already caps out your evasion rate so i just chucked the rest into accuracy. It mustve taken close to 300-400 hours on ps2 for you

[@codycockerill2885]

@@2xMoon ya i gave up for bit around 350 hrs

[@A_rose_if_by_her_thorns]

The amount of grinding to accomplish a complete sphere grid for every party member gahdahmn

[@rawrdino7046]

How so you get all those spheres?

[@2xMoon]

a LOT of grinding lol ... fighting the same boss anywhere between 30 - 400 times. some are easy, just quick hit repeatedly but some have mechanics that you can't just attack

[@lewis9s]

I can’t help but wonder… *HOW LONG WAS THAT GRIND THOUGH?!*

[@2xMoon]

If you know the way its about... 50 hours on PC 4x speed and increased encounters or... 250+ hours on the original PS2 😅 I actually lost this save file (total hrs was about 80-90hrs incl storyline) when i reinstalled my PC so i have to replay through it. Maybe I can demonstrate my way of getting there from scratch

[@_morethanjake]

Is 255 luck necessary? I think I read on a forum that after about 100 you reach the point of diminishing return

[@2xMoon]

it's not necessary but having 1 luck is the same as having 1 accuracy and 1 evasion amongst a few other hidden stats so rather than max two different stats you can do it in one. 100 Luck is a good baseline in my opinion to do well against most end game content. generally you can beat arena bosses with 150-170 stats but i'm a completionist :P It is incredibly time consuming because Earth Eater (fortune spheres) and Greater Sphere (luck sphere) cannot be easily killed with mindless attacks...

[@nezkeys79]

Magic is useless tbh. I ended up with 255 in luck accuracy and evasion and took from magic

[@Killercutsvideo]

Should have thrown in a few spells and maybe a summon just for kicks

[@josephmoore5949]

Maxing most stats isn't too bad. Though maxing HP and Luck takes forever. So satisfying once you get there though.

[@kazumi1315]

Not really if you know the trick

[@anagramconfirmed1717]

You wouldn't know if it's satisfying or not bc you never did it. Stop lying.

[@captaincook8283]

What is thats beasts Hp?

[@2xMoon]

10million 😆

[@captaincook8283]

@@2xMoon probably yeah, close to it

[@c_losgarage71]

How do you max all stats??? Can I get this on the ps4?

[@2xMoon]

absolutely just need alot of grinding and patience and game knowledge lol