Final Fight MD - No Sega CD Required!

[@ricardobarros1090]

Another Brazilian doing wonders with the Mega Drive! You need to understand the love that Brazilians have for the Sega Mega Drive system, here it was sold a lot and the Brazilian company TEC Toy simultaneously released Sega systems and games, including producing exclusive games for the Sega Master system and Mega drive systems at the time, and the legacy is still alive!!

[@RicardoRandom691]

What Mauro has done with this game is nothing short of spectacular, the guy really knows how to get the most out of the Genesis, and then some.

[@billsuszynski6549]

Awesome translation!

[@TheShibbybear]

Imagine if this had came out like this on the original Mega Drive/Genesis!!! It would have been a system seller and one of the best selling games for sure

[@PutlerHuyIo]

Sega Genesis was already "a system seller" by itself by the time this would come out. Genesis was their first (and their last) commercial juggernaut, a true industry disruptor, a f*cking household name even your rusty Janis Joplin-listening grandma knew by name back in early to mid 90's. 😊

[@paulclinton6414]

But then no Streets of Rage for sure.

[@Tempora158]

I cannot imagine this port getting to market between 1991-1994 when it mattered, because neither Capcom or Sega is going to manufacture an extremely expensive 32 megabit cart that the finished port is going to need for a really old beat-em up game from 1989 and charge $80 for it when Final Fight 2 and Streets of Rage 2 exist for less money. Even Captain Commando, a larger, more advanced Final Fight game from 1991, was only allocated 16 megabits for the SNES ports in 1995 when ROM chips has gotten cheaper.

[@HereticHydra]

@@paulclinton6414 Streets of Rage would've still happened. SOR was a response to Street Fighter 2 anyway, I don't know why though since they're completely different genres. Genesis Final Fight def would've gave SOR2 a run for its money. Streets of Rage trilogy was so dominant that no other beat em up on the Genesis came close. Not even Hyperstone Heist.

[@HereticHydra]

@@Tempora158 I would've loved a Genesis Final Fight 3 though. What I hate about the snes version is the enemy limit.

[@edpinkus8688]

Thanks! Happy Thanksgiving and thank you for your work! Grateful for your videos and entertainment that they bring!

[@SegaLordX]

Happy holidays!

[@Kcalien]

Yes I love it! Thanks so much

[@DavidRomanKC]

100% The best review channel on YT.

[@MaxAbramson3]

Happy Thanksgiving, folks out in SLX Land!

[@leandronc]

Brazil carrying the SEGA Mega Drive/Genesis scene, 30+ years later. Always amazing to see what the system is capable of, time has really vindicated the MD/Genesis hardware. I hope its revival continues!

[@burntyper]

Yeah...Except yuzo koshiro is launching a game for it too next year, Columbus circle continues to launch unreleased games and there are at least 5 shmup projects being finished at this very moment

[@MaxAbramson3]

Yeah, strange that sega didn't just continue supporting the Sega CD console as a budget option indefinitely. You would always be able to buy bargain games, and we would have seen limit pushers for years.

[@leandronc]

@burntyper For sure, there are a ton of new games and projects, even new physical releases. It's truly a revival for the console, I'm here for it.

[@leandronc]

@MaxAbramson3 That's just how the console race goes, unfortunately. But now we are finally seeing some love for old consoles, maybe as modern consoles stagnate, it's time for a retro renaissance.

[@joe-yuugen]

God bless Brazil and your culture. 🎉

[@ninjapirate47]

Jessica was stacked to the rafters. No wonder Guy had to slap him at the end for walkin away from that!

[@yellowblanka6058]

I would be nervous dating a girl whose father was a 6’6-6’8 300 lbs of muscle former pro wrestler with a short fuse, lol.

[@TBONE_2004]

@@yellowblanka6058 Why would Cody be afraid? Look what happened to him, Mike gave him the title of Mayor!

[@yellowblanka6058]

@@TBONE_2004 Lol, true enough, but that was later, I just remember the opening of "Mighty Final Fight" where when Haggar hears about Jessica being kidnapped he responds "Cody! What have you done to her!"

[@popixel]

I was a Nintendo fan back in the day, but I loved the Sega CD version of Final Fight so much more.

[@popixel]

@@Randerson112 Interesting, I don't think I ever would have noticed. It's been a long time since I've played the arcade game though.

[@781stino]

The music is alone is probably the best soundtrack of any game in history. Straight up early 90’s guitar

[@Thor-Orion]

@@781stinothe best video game score ever is Panzer Dragoon 1. But I do love Streets of Rage 2 a whole lot as well.

[@quadders9198]

@@781stino I found a promo copy of the soundtrack from some magazine at the time and over the years it has become one of my favourite soundtracks of all time.

[@781stino]

@@Thor-Orion Streets of Rage is up there of course. Panzer I think was more orchestral but still great. Final fight cd stuck out to me as a kid because it was cd quality audio. For a game it was cutting edge at the time.

[@jessehayes8052]

Happy Thanksgiving, Sega Lord X

[@thehumbleone1983]

Final Fight MD looks great the Dev has done amazing work

[@nostartia]

I'm totally impressed by this. Final Fight was always an obsession for me in the arcades, the snes port wasn't enough, the megacd was good but this is insane. Incredible talent there.

[@Silks]

Mad props for how well he did the colors

[@paxhumana2015]

Believe it or not, but I told the people that are making the port of the video game about the color issues, and I also pointed it out in detail. This is also why Simons is more like his classic look, rather than the olive green appearance that he had in older versions of the game.

[@deltakid0]

I think this was the first game I've ever played on the SNES here in Colombia in 1992, it wasn't until several months later that I played Super Mario World.

[@vlesmeries]

crazy impressive and you can see it’s a labor of love. Thank you programmer man.

[@quadders9198]

This is astonishing!! I Still can barely believe it!!

[@Badguy10472]

Final Fight with Blast Processing enabled. Great work to the devs. Hopefully they can finish the final level.

[@Bloodreign1]

Surprised Capcom hasn't been on their ass yet with a cease and desist. Nintendo, Konami, and even Sega have stopped projects dead in their tracks in the past. Capcom has also not avoided that sin.

[@Badguy10472]

@Bloodreign1 yeah capcom is not nintendo. I dont think care about one of their games from 30 years ago getting rebuilt and redone for the sega mega drive.

[@ibDirtyGlasses]

Thanks for featuring this! Love learning the history of these ports and seeing the results!

[@Idelacio]

Well, as mentioned we do need to bear in mind that modern dev tools and general knowledge are much better than they were, plus no consideration for memory cost. Still, very impressive.

[@Hektols]

And no time limit to develop the game, being able to program it at your own pace makes wonders.

[@mjdf122]

Survivor Series The Annual Thanksgiving Tradition and I’m thankful for Sega Lord X

[@StevenCusic]

They did a great job with the music, i did a cover of bay area using vgm2midi transcoders for 1:1 measurements then arranged with a DX7IIFD and korg M1 drums which I'm sure the original was produced and down sampled to the 4 OP ym2151 and a 4 bit PCM, and it was still a pain to get the sounds right. i can only how imagine how difficult it must have been to recreate using the YM2612\YM3438 + PSG with limited sound memory. This a great review 😃 thanks for the in-depth coverage and can't wait for the final product of this awesome port!

[@PlumbDrumb]

Right on man, I'll be checking out your channel.

[@StevenCusic]

@@PlumbDrumb Thanks! appreciate you!😀

[@yousefslimani99]

I feel like SEGA Genesis becomes one of the most popular console when it comes to putting homebrew games on it (I’m still bummered that nobody still didn’t make Gradius on SEGA MD yet!)

[@kevinramsey417]

I say this as a Nintendo kid. There's a lot about the Genesis that developers failed to take advantage of.

[@yousefslimani99]

@ I’m talking about the arcade version here! It’s 16bit dude and I knew Genesis can handle it like PC Engine did. Didn’t you see “Genesis does what Nintendon’t” commercial? That means SEGA Genesis is capable of simulating 8bit or 16bit games no matter what game we’re talking about. Dude we’re living in the future and I know Genesis can handle stuff that couldn’t before thanks to modern devs. Well failed or not I’m still hoping for someone to port it on SEGA MD and you can’t stop me!

[@CMCAdvanced]

I wish I knew how to code that, or I would! Hopefully AI gets going so I can make it with the magic of super technology!

[@yousefslimani99]

@@CMCAdvanced Really?! If you’re are good enough then try to simulate Gradius 1 and 2 arcade version on SEGA MD! Good luck with that

[@paxhumana2015]

@@yousefslimani99 , Final Fight MD is a lot more technically impressive than Gradius I, II, and III, so, it's not as difficult as you think that it is, and Contra Hard Corps/Probotector (MD) proved as such as well.

[@saturnrvg8171]

This is truly incredible. Thanks for covering it otherwise I wouldn't have known it existed.

[@barryschalkwijk9388]

this guy's a wizard. And i doubt it's modern development tools. Getting the most out of these older systems usually means assembly.

[@kashattack]

We had the Streets of Rage trilogy so I never felt we Genesis owners missed out that much

[@glovedcop69]

Wow this looks really good...I just can't get over those faces

[@LiveAerosmith]

Amazing work from the devs!!!!!

[@Galgomite]

I can understand how the critics would be unkind to the Sega CD port (which I love!). We know Final Fight as a classic to be preserved and enjoyed on its own terms, but back then, it was a four year old quarter muncher that had been eclipsed by console games like SoR and SoR2. It would be like having critics of the day telling everyone to buy a 32X because it could play After Burner and Space Harrier- great replications of the vintage arcades, yes, but not where console games were going.

[@Rockhead84]

This looks so good. That Sega CD soundtrack for this is still amazing.

[@gustsnts]

It’s so clear that both SNES and Genesis had so much power to run many arcade games from those days with absolute fidelity. Both the better knowledge of how these systems work and modern development tools makes games like this one possible, with a handful of developers, while in the past poor ports would be made by teams of dozens of devs.

[@JPWestmas]

It's nice to see this! I'm pretty sure the greatest limitations of the Genesis/MD in the 90's were the cost of cartridge storage sizes and perhaps developer inexperience.

[@lupinzar]

There are unfortunately a lot of Sega CD games that seem to just be Genesis titles stuck on CD because of ROM cost.

[@ItsPaybackTime89]

Share holders were the problem.

[@ajsingh4545]

I was surprised with how people don't understand this simple point including our own Sega lord X here. It's not so much the hardware, Developers were limited by rom size which affected how accurately they could make the port. Also the developers of the time had to deal with tight time constraints from publishers. For example Probe was given 6 months to develop the port of mortal kombat for the Sega Genesis without any extra help. Also, development tools have come a long way now.

[@ItsPaybackTime89]

@@ajsingh4545 This game will only use the standard genesis 32 megabit rom capacity thankfully.

[@ajsingh4545]

@@ItsPaybackTime89 is it confirmed? That's amazing

[@avjaarsveldt]

Awesome, thanks for the update Sega Lord!!! And all the best for the developer in 2015! I REALLY hope that once this game is done, there will be difficulty settings. Worst thing would be to have this on our Mega Drive, but it is too difficult.

[@FrancoAlmiron-f6o]

Is amazing seeing the ports made to the Sega Genesis this days, seriously this port is just amazing!

[@forcedfeedbackclassicgamer5499]

Holy hell in a handbasket. This looks siiiiiiiick af. Serious kudos to the dev putting this together.

[@EhHold]

This is awesome, very impressive. I wish Sega would just make old school game cartridges again for these old school systems.

[@duxzu]

I love that games are being both "demade" for the base hardware like this and remade for the Tower of Power like Doom CD 32X Fusion. There is still so much untapped potential

[@cd5sircoupe]

I'll be keeping an eye on this project for sure.

[@anglo-saxonconnor817]

If megadrive can make final fight run and look so well on it I am curious how a port of night slashers would look as well.

[@jasontodd1896]

It prob could

[@EmmettLBrown2015]

As a huge Final Fight fan, I have to say this looks absolutely amazing! And I love the soundtrack

[@tangreen7267]

Complete excellence. Sega and their fellow travelers did the best they could with the economics of the time, and the time they had, you always wish to see that dev, years later, smashing the capabilities of that time just because they make the time to prove a point. Major Kudos, mauroxavier

[@dusanpiscevic6213]

Judging from "press start" caption blinking in upper right corner, this is 2 player co-op game. I saw max 5 enemies at once! So, even with some sprite flicker, this is alredy miles better than SNES version which is only one player game with max 3 enemies at once and that ugly sprite which replaces Poison (present in MD version of course)! As it seems, sprites are extracted from PCB and not "arcade-like sprite-aproximations" like SNES! On a side note, Amiga 500 also get new version (homebrew) of Final Fight, righting the wrong of original port with added acurate enemy placements, on screen objects, all enemies, all acurate moves, animation frames, music and FX and color and background corection from original rushed job! Sprites were extracted from original PCB even in original port but now they added most of missing frames! And it runs and plays preety good!

[@roberto1519]

There are many arcade games we all wanted at home from the late 80's to the mid 90's and even as a kid we knew these consoles still had much untapped potential, this is redeeming to many, many of us, we knew it!

[@elone3997]

That's an insane undertaking..amazing work. Is it just one developer doing everything?

[@theconsolekiller7113]

Looks great. Will have to check this out whenever it drops.

[@SharifSourour]

This goes to show how important the developer is to the game quality. Hardware power can only limit so much for awesome developers. I always point to Mighty Final Fight on the NES as an example.

[@frankiev-tech4630]

How many megs would it have taken to come out like this back in the day? No way with 16 megs!

[@MarkSpencer-u4i]

The attention to details is superb . Imagine getting this version back in 1990 . I’d love to see Golden Axe redone on the genesis , anything in the works I wonder

[@ajsingh4545]

Just no

[@Craig_in_SSF]

This looks & sounds phenomenal! Further proof that "Genesis does, what Nintendon't"!

[@davidsaialreal]

It´s one of my favorite Beat 'Em Up now make MD Cadillacs & Dinosaurs pleaseeeee!!

[@MagisterHamid]

Played this a few weeks ago and this is hands down one of the most impressive hacks I’ve ever played. Imagine if we had this back in the days!

[@purplehaze2342]

It’s not a hack, It is an independent game made from scratch. How can it be a hack 😂

[@MagisterHamid]

@ well you know what I mean.

[@opaljk4835]

@@MagisterHamidusually it wouldn’t matter, but in this case I think precise language is more in order. The amount of work that went into this is nuts.

[@tappersreviews4677]

This port is amazing. If we’d had this back in the day… wow.

[@Optimusprimez-fg6vt]

Just WOW!! That’s amazing

[@MrStrangermoon]

played this and cadillac and dinos md version and mk1 arcade md with friends on crt. one of best night since 90s for us.

[@DigitalPhreak765]

I remember playing the arcade game back in the day 😀😀

[@damin9913]

Glad this game coming out now and being made with care and time and not rushed

[@brunoauriema5561]

One thing ppl forget is that nowadays they can make these games with no limitations. At the time, a 16 meg cartridge would be much more expensive to manufacture. The SNES version for example had only 8 megs. So a Genesis version at the time wouldn’t look like this cause it would probably have less memory.

[@ajsingh4545]

Exactly... Thank you

[@garethjones2746]

So impressed with this. Gonna get some hate now but I don’t care what people say about streets of rage,and I love turtles in time and the punisher but…..Final Fight is the best side scrolling beat em up,and Haggar is my buddy so you’ll have to answer to him if you object :)

[@atvega7]

Quite literally one of my most favorite game ever. I have fond memories of dumping quarters into this in the arcade back in the day along with owning so many variations. Super Famicom, Sega CD, iOS, PS3, Switch and more often than not, I end up playing it in SF6 instead of actually playing SF6😂 The colors are definitely more vibrant. However, as great as a port this is, I am seeing more flickering than on the Sega CD. Also, Abigail's stage, City Slums has an animated background that the arcade or any other console version had! Nice!! I wish Capcom gave this franchise a lot more love. I sometimes day dream of Capcom re releasing this game with updated graphics (similar to how they partnered with UDON Entertainment on SSF2 Turbo HD Remix) and giving us all three players at once in an ultimate multi-player brawler. It would be the same game, same characters, storyline, etc. Just HD graphics, 3 player action and maybe a few hidden bonuses paying homage to the games lore.

[@kabukimanindahouse]

andore cage match in the arcade: gritty, rocking sound, perfect for the situation. cd version: daytona usa guy WOOOOOAH WOOOOOOOOOOAH WOOOAH just doesn't really fit

[@captainblackheart999]

the comparison i,ve been waiting for cant fng wait to play this on my megadrive with my powerstick II

[@alfonsobonzo3782]

A thing of beauty. Bravo to the programmer. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@dominiquejean5830]

Gotta love the stage 3 Batman music at the end😊 And that Final Fight project sure looks amazing. What I also like is that Capcom is usually ok about those, unlike those pesky Square Soft managers.

[@libertyordeath555]

Absolutely amazing !!

[@marceltiel7919]

THE best brawler fighting game that is absolute #1 on my list for more than 30 years... Used to play this in the arcades and then on my home system, the Amiga500 which was a letdown but still played it...the great snes version along with SF2 around that time really made me buy a snes... This conversion seems awesome, a great novelty by creating this....awesome...

[@opaljk4835]

I assumed that the size of this version would be huge but at its current state it says it’s 2MB, which is half of the largest game released for the console. Pretty cool. Not a huge final fight fan, but I’m definitely playing this

[@ItsPaybackTime89]

The rom will only be the standard genesis 32 megabytes.

[@cammelspit]

The reversed engineered ports and from the ground up recreations that are happening these days is just so insanely impressive to me.

[@TheGorillafoot]

This was one of my favorites in the arcade.

[@xTerrySunderlandx]

This is great, nowadays tools like sega sdk are powerful tools that let programers do things that in that time where FAR more complex (not to mention that nowadays costs for those rom are much cheaper too if you want to do a physical edition and they are much faster and better too) what im super sure bout is that the snes version was kinda rushed and that is the reason it ended up with less content. for example, in the files you CAN find the factory stage (incomplete, but it is there) and there are partial codes for 2 players (that are not used) and it was not because there was no room (even when the rom they used was the cheaper one) There is even a hack that makes the 3 players selecteable and has a 2playes coop active mode (like i said the code DOES have it, but its incomplete and enemies do not try to seek for the 2nd player) it would be nice to have this amazing genesis version and a COMPLETE version of the snes one (more complex to do as its harder to actually program for the snes and assembler is a pain).

[@heilong79]

The snes was kinda weak on its own for this kind of game, I am sure with an added chip(Super FX 2) it could pull it off but with overall lower resolution blurry graphics.

[@xTerrySunderlandx]

@heilong79 and yet the hack exists and works ;) Its Just not complete (and like i said i have seen the code and what i mention IS there, its just incomplete) , hence what i said about conpleting the Game...

[@ChaoticHoly]

This is one of those games that I absolutely love and wish someone would remake the SNES game for greater arcade accuracy...

[@steveno7058]

Can’t. It doesn’t have blast processing

[@EliteGamersUnited]

the snes version was absolute trash. SoR destroys final fight in every way

[@maroon9273]

It will need a SA1 chip, st018 or another cpu with a blast processing dma channel as a new enhancement chip.

[@jacobprayer8656]

It would require an X6800 processor

[@AlexxxPerales]

Yeah that would be nice. Or even just 2 players would be awesome. Nothing beats sor but snes had some good ones. My fav is Turtles in time.

[@MaxwellsUnearthly]

Mauro and the team are doing a fantastic work with this version for the Mega Drive, it looks even better than the super nintendo, wow!! I hope somewhere down the line soon Capcom decides to give the original arcade version a fresh coat of paint, kinda what like Tengo Project has done for Ninja Saviors the return, Wild Guns Reloaded, The shadow of the ninja, or just let Tengo Project handle the refresh, they've done a stellar job so far, great video.

[@sega-re-trop-vieux]

That is a fantastic port. Truly amazing ❤

[@lepuke6854]

If Sega could have found a way to source lager capacity memory chips cheaper the ports of arcade games could have been amazing... Those space restrictions really held dev teams back at the time.

[@jimb12312]

That was as good as it gets. They were buying hundreds of millions of ROM chips. If there was a cheaper supplier, they would have got it. Any cheaper supplier would have taken their business.

[@maroon9273]

And a hardware decompressor like the snes Sdd-1 and others. It is strange how the genesis never used them. Will a faster rom/decompression chips and even software compression development would've drove the prices of genesis cart games?

[@jimb12312]

@@maroon9273 They used software compression.

[@MiaRabinovich]

​@@maroon9273 i dont think they needed it tho. wouldn't had help with the two real problems, the number of colors and the samples. the 68k cpu can do decompression just fine

[@ItsPaybackTime89]

This conversion will only use the standard genesis 32 megabit rom.

[@willrobinson7599]

The demo was great and one hell of a job , hats off to the guys who put all effort int9 it I've got the cd rom version on the megadrive and love it I did think bar the cd music the base megadrive could of done it on a 32 meg cartridge

[@albertfroz]

Amazing

[@ryanimay]

What an amazing accomplishment 🎉

[@artificialunderground]

Great review, gonna load this up on my PSP GO.

[@stofopdenaald132]

Bought a cart on Ali a few months ago, but that turned out to be a demo of two levels. I was quite disappointed as this was not mentioned, but am still looking forward to the whole game, it looked and played great.

[@sirblew]

Amazing! Such a shame that the Mega CD version doesn't do as good a job as this does with colour. There is more slowdown and sprite flicker though. Does this use the Beats of Rage engine or a new engine entirely?

[@miaouew]

Final Fight rules. I rented it for SNES as a kid not knowing what it was and still remember how blown away with the game I was. I think I sat there for 6 hours straight playing the first night.

[@thecunninlynguist]

I've been casually following this project. looks fantastic. I love how all these labor of love projects showcase the genesis. Another channel i sub to did a side by side w/ FF CD and FF MD, and MD had far better use of color

[@sabin1981]

Mother of GOD this is an impressive conversion! It's legitimately astonishing how visually similar it is to the arcade, and to include all characters AND a banging rendition of the soundtrack too? Magnificent. God, can you imagine if this had launched when the Mega Drive was in stores? KILLER APP.

[@Reprogrammed_By_SEGA]

Was this the same port that experimented with a 30fps 3 player mode?

[@stryfespoint304]

Would always wonder how the SNES version would fare if it received the arcade port then, remembered 90s censorship was something else nonetheless, thanks Sega Lord X for highlighting this bowl of awesomeness.

[@LM77va]

I played through all three levels. The game is just over 3.5 megabytes, I'm amazed with the audio, it is high quality and close to the original. Can't wait for the side by side comparison. I wonder how much of it is sound samples vs hardware playback. Sega Lord said the gameplay was harder than the arcade, i found it to be a lot easier than the arcade. I blew through the first 3 levels with no problems. Once the enemy is knocked down you can spam an attack as they get up. Cheap! but fun. (Still waiting on Sunset Riders!"

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

Final Fight MD is amazing, if this was released back in the the original retail lifetime of the Mega Drive, this would have been considered “arcade perfect” and the colour palette being closer to the arcade original as is the music and is absolute proof that the Mega Drive could have done a great port on it’s own and it really didn’t need the Mega CD at all. It’s a testament to the talent of this individual and to the Mega Drive’s hardware which shows that the Mega Drive was powerful enough to handle arcade ports like this thanks to the modern tools we now have at our disposal.

[@xii_7-y7m]

May the Beast never die.

[@jaymorrison8419]

i don't understand how the speech is so clean

[@paxhumana2015]

Paprium had clean speech samples as well, as did Thunder Force II...it's not really hard if you a. program things right, b. have the right sized meg carrying chips, and c. know how to properly record speech into said chips.

[@djvoo19]

Hope this gets released for original hardware. One of the best games ever

[@SickBoy353]

These new games for Genesis are ashaming what most programmers did in the 90s with Genesis color pallete. This looks so good

[@usepinlove]

It looks fantastic, but I remember there was a demo, like 2 years ago, were there was an extended intro, and 2 extra caracters, one of them captain comando. Are these extras not comming for the final version? Is there any information about It?

[@thebookkeeper3508]

SNES reviews were fairly critical at the time. Missing Guy character, no 2-player mode, reduced enemy roster and number of enemies on screen were cut. It was Final Fight though, so it still got a bit of love. The Final Fight Guy version was released in the states, which I don't think we got in Europe.

[@SegaLordX]

That's what was so weird. The reviews had no issue mentioning the SNES shortcomings but it wasn't reflected in the review score. The Gamepro review I showed here still gave the SNES game perfect scores across the board.

[@zeedee3929]

Impressive most impressive! Dev has mad skills! So many fine programmers putting out so many great Genesis/MD games. However, I do wish devs would develop some new Sega CD titles. So many bad FMV games and so few Sega CD games that pushed the hardware and utilized scaling/rotation. I believe the limited ram in the CD and the slow access time could have been overcome by a ram/rom cart inserted in the Genesis. I would love to see just what the Sega CD could pull of with modern software developers! With the faster CPU, graphics ASIC, a ram/rom Cart in the Genesis, and utilizing all the Genesis hardware. Someday...?

[@Taro73]

They should also port Final Fight 2 and Final Fight 3 to the SEGA Genesis/MegaDrive. Those games were only on the SNES.

[@paxhumana2015]

Pyron did a LOT to correct the issues that Final Fight CD had, and his efforts should not go unnoticed.

[@mukiex4413]

The Sega CD being $300 alongside a $200 Genesis really put it in an awkward spot for expectations. 32X similarly so.

[@maroon9273]

32x was a bandaid after failing to increase revenue with the sega cd. Knee jerk reaction to the jaguar and 3do.

[@paulclinton6414]

I liked Sega CD. Most owners did.

[@eponymous7910]

I think most people saw sega cd as a high end, almost experimental system. 32X was an unmitigated disaster though

[@timsohn7057]

I actually got the sega cd at the tail end of its life when it dropped to $99. Also, Lunar 2 just came out as well! I had an amazing time with the system. Alot of the sega cd games at the time were really cheap: Popful Mail, Lunar 2, Shining Force CD etc. Still own them!

[@RetroGamesBoy78]

​ @@eponymous7910for what it is, 32X is an awesome bit of kit, and I bet there were plenty that were happy to get one, (especially when they were almost giving them away!) but if you've got a more advanced bit of hardware coming less than a year down the line, (turned out to be even less than that 😱) probably best to have kept it an idea and not make it a reality!

[@darthv72]

In that car beat up bonus round... did it use the arcade sample of "oh my god" or the SNES sample of "oh my car" (like the CD ver did)?

[@SegaLordX]

Arcade.

[@cristiankiper2727]

What's the ROM size? Could it have been released on a cartridge back in the day, or is it too big?

[@JudgmentStorm]

The one thing keeping Sega from doing this kind of Final Fight port in MD's heyday might have been cartridge cost. Arcade version's full ROM is nearly 26.5 Mbits (3.3 MB). That'd probably mean about $70 for a cartridge. At least.

[@opaljk4835]

It’s on the same size as the latter release of street fighter 2

[@sweetamiao]

Barring the color limits, the stage 5 is even better than the arcade in many ways. For example, the fence in foreground has parallel scrolling, which the arcade version didn't have.

[@PlumbDrumb]

I'm guessing the main advantage of the CD version was the storage size of the media. To get all this "stuff" into an affordable cartridge at the time might have been an issue. I'd be interested to hear what size this game ends up being, so we could determine which size cartridge would be needed, and how much it would have cost back in the day :)

[@freddyvidz]

The carts weren’t “affordable” anyway.

[@SegaLordX]

This demo is of the almost finished game and it's less than 32 megabits, which was the size of a number of Genesis games back then.

[@PlumbDrumb]

@@SegaLordX Ah, yes that's not overly large. Not unaffordably so, at least.

[@PlumbDrumb]

@@freddyvidz I know what you mean, I was a broke kid at the time.

[@freddyvidz]

@ Me too

[@kidgruesome407]

Damn, building a game from the ground up is a huge deal!

[@blknmild]

I really wonder what the cartridge's size would've been and how expensive this port would've been on genesis back in the day. I remember Strider boasted about having "8 Mega Memory" on the cover and it was a great arcade port. Would this have been double or triple that size?

[@ItsPaybackTime89]

This conversion will only use the standard genesis 4MB rom size.

[@blknmild]

@@ItsPaybackTime89 First of all thanks for the info! Secondly, thats AMAZING! Considering the colors, sprite size, animation, sound quality and music, I cannot understand how all that would fit onto a standard official Sega cart!

[@weswhile]

Awesome video as usual dude. The only question I have is how did you not use Guy at all?!

[@SegaLordX]

Guy is in the video.

[@weswhile]

@@SegaLordX Haha I guess I missed that one part. I see it now thanks dude! Again, awesome video!