Why Did Final Fight Cause Outrage !?

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In this video, we discuss the Final Fight and why it caused Outrage.
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[@sprnightfire]

Capcom seriously needs to bring back Final Fight and gives us Final Fight 4. Especially with all those great Beat em up games we been getting as of late.

[@GreenTygur]

There was a leak that a new final fight was to come out in 2024 or 2025.

[@jamesbaxter2575]

Although it wasn't numbered as "4", Capcom did release "Final Fight Streetwise" for the original XBox and PS2.

[@Kudeghraw]

I think it is due for a live action movie. Who would play Mike? Who would play Andore?

[@joezar33]

​@@Kudeghrawhire a few WWE or AEW wrestlers , would be a slick casting.. now that I think about it, Kenny Omega would make a decent Axel 😅🤔

[@joezar33]

If they made a part 4 , hope *Gunloc* from Saturday Night Slam Master in the game.

[@hitmanmonaghan6633]

Me and my friends are gonna be Cody, Guy, and Haggar for comic con.

[@ADG.Est.1988]

That is awesome

[@LA-dc8lc]

Who you gonna be ?

[@Pichustrikesback]

I remember dressing very similar to Slash for a party back in my high school days around 91, of course I was like the dime store version wearing denim instead of leather but still felt awesome!

[@JAGUAR-GT]

The similar look between Dan Severn and Haggar is 100%.💪

[@jimgroz84]

And Jessie ventura lol

[@nefariousmex2352]

People always said Don Frye but Severn's dead on

[@toycoma98]

Now i remember where Street Fighter Rolento character came from.

[@ADG.Est.1988]

A final fight streets of rage and street fighter crossover over beat em up would perfect

[@KenMasters.]

*Double Dragon X Streets of Rage X Street Fighter* would be better. Because on the SF side, they have Final Fight characters.

[@Hamajaang]

Hear me out…. plus Ninja Turtles👀👀👀. I mean, TMNT turtles in time was primo game play plus had a vs mode and all the characters had their own set of moves. Yeeeeesss the home port was a bit buggy but, still a solid game

[@joezar33]

Um there 100s of Beats of Rage 2 rom hacks , there is a Final Fight Crossover FF Hagger , Cody and Guy in Streets of Rage 2 rom hack

[@JGreen-le8xx]

I know why it caused outrage. It's because one of the greatest singers to ever live broke up the band QUEEN so he could become a mayor/wrestler/vigilant!

[@morningstar577]

Eyyyyy-yo!!!

[@1stBlood]

....on steroids 😂

[@JGreen-le8xx]

@@1stBlood He only took steroids to fight the aids...

[@JGreen-le8xx]

@@1stBlood He only took the "roids" to fight the aids...

[@JGreen-le8xx]

@@1stBlood He only took "roids" to fight the ...A I D S .....

[@sunniedunbar6889]

Haggar should be a Bonus boss. You gotta earn the chance to fight against him in a fighter.

[@salas0727]

Still play these on my snes, FF3 was so slept on 👊🏽

[@licmir3663]

The music of the first stage of FF3 is amazing.

[@captainmartin1219]

Man I keep hearing people saying that ff3 is great. I need to track that game down.

[@kphillips6102]

Facts lol

[@daredevil350]

Hella underrated

[@jilau7478]

2 still the goat

[@barryklinedinst6233]

I play all the final fight games on my steamdeck. I can't get enough beat um up games

[@JustAskingQuestions8571]

How do you play Final fights 2 and 3 on Steam? (Especially 3). Last time I checked, those were never released on Steam, which is very sad to me.

[@gjergjaurelius9798]

I wish Capcom would give us a collection. Yes final 1-3, mighty, revenge and yes STREET WISE!!🤯🤣

[@Raphael_De_La_Ghetto]

@@gjergjaurelius9798hold the streetwise 😂

[@rml53595]

@@JustAskingQuestions8571 Most likely emulation via EmuDeck. ROMs are pretty easy to find in places like the internet archive.

[@Robert-nl3fd]

Enulation. ​@@JustAskingQuestions8571

[@retrocrypt]

One of my favorite games ever. Think I may stream it tonight 🧐

[@Babook]

You have to press "down" to throw people instead of punching them at the end of a combo, and CPS-1 did not have "cartridges", that was CPS-2 and 3 in a certain way

[@anthonybird546]

Learning how to do that let me absolutely smash Final Fight. Crowd control supreme.

[@jorgejaquez360]

Holding up while mashing attack works too!

[@ViegasSilva]

There is now a WIP fan made Mega Drive version, better than SNES and CD

[@joezar33]

Think they added Maki to the roaster as a bonus , that games out to be coming out soon 🤔

[@jayt1077]

Almost 30 minutes worth of video to basically tell us that the Super Nintendo port wasn't all that great. I owned it, it may have been missing features, but it was a still a solid experience that I prefer to Streets of Rage. It was also an early title, some cut backs were to be expected.

[@joezar33]

Should see the fanmade 2024 Final Fight port on the Genesis/MD . Think Maki was added looks fantastic close to the orginal Arcade

[@able75dev60]

Street fighter is actually a better name for final fight than it is for Street fighter

[@AlphaProto]

12:26 I mean it got a little better by the 90s. Not sure how it is now. I love the CD audio of Final Fight CD.I wish there was a port that had the voices, music, and cut scenes from that game, but kept the graphics of the arcade game.

[@thepeternetwork]

Speaking as a local, I would like to apologize for the bad experience you had visiting my city, and at the same time I feel for you. I don't care much for going outside myself. You don't know what kind of danger is out there.

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

Haha to be fair it just felt like the City I grew up in, London. I'm more than use to shitholes. I was expecting it to be a bit shiny though, considering other media glorifies the place so much!

[@glovedcop69]

22:17 the reason for controversy

[@RikouHogashi]

Most likely due to Poison and Roxy are shemales/futa for some reason

[@joezar33]

Thx wondering when he was final going to talk about that lol he spent more time talking about game mechanics 😅

[@glovedcop69]

@joe77andino i kept fast forwarding. I was like hury up lol

[@io5644]

Leaps and bounds better than all other FF outtings, brimming with a charm games like SOR2 tried and failed to emulate, it is the very pinnacle of side scrollers set in an urban environment. I feel the street atmosphere in this game was matched only in the original Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting games. Oh and SF Alpha 1

[@io5644]

I'd love for there to be a new release in the series, 99.9% sure it would be lacklustre though.

[@alexojideagu]

Streets of rage 2 has much better gameplay. Although Final Fight has better graphics.

[@Hatchyack]

I always wondered if Haggar not crossing over into Street Fighter just had to do with his moveset being too similar to Zangief's. Not that that's stopped them from making a dozen shotoclones but maybe it's harder to differentiate two gigantic pro wrestler guys who already share moves which they're both renowned for.

[@KenMasters.]

Haggar could've also been added to 3rd Strike, without Zangief. But that's still a no…

[@JONNYSORENSEN_AU]

Hes in backgrounds in sf games and in mvc, but yeah no solo main version. Closet second is Darun in SF ex+

[@joezar33]

If Cody the canon Mayor of Metro city , guess that means Mike Hagger a Retired Mayor and Pro Wrestler, why we don't see him ? 🤔

[@vultureguy33]

One of the best arcade games ever and still looks and plays great to this day.

[@jasongass]

I dig your channel, but man innovative!!! I’m not sure what initive is 🙃🙃

[@stofopdenaald132]

As a kid we went to Croatia for the holiday. Autocamp Polari in Rovinj. Near the swimming pool they had a small arcade, and that's where I discovered this truly awesome game. Back home I had a Sega Master System and wasn't aware of the snes having a version of this game. Heck I was in my 20's when I found out. I would have given my left nut as a kid to be able to enjoy this game at home, even with the flaws.

[@CookyArtist81]

What is the game shown at the 1:00 mark?

[@priestwilliamson2135]

0:51 haven’t watched the whole video yet, but I know the whole Poison thing gonna come up. Lol.

[@tewodrosii2875]

Haggard is in Saturday night slam masters, a fighting game more suited for him. Please review it or send me a link to yours. I'm genuinely curious on your opinion, top hat

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

There you go :) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWizo5mrYq-dlbcsi=TsgsUbrJJdD2o8gM

[@gjergjaurelius9798]

Great beat em up. Final fight CD is definitely the best one. While final fight one on GBA is good too. Both these games are better than the SNES and arcade games. Final fight on SNES for obvious reasons and the arcade version just becomes cheap. Even if you download the arcade version it becomes cheap in later levels. Your just feeding continues because of the difficult spike. It's not fun when you can't have the balance.

[@joecrackin3783]

Man, this era of beat'em ups was magical. The Simpsons, TMNT, Final Fight. These are the greatest games of their genres still to this day. The sounds these games made in the arcade are burned in to my soul.

[@BishanMash]

Played it again last night in Capcom arcade stadium, I only visit that place late at night! 🤘🏼

[@Immortalsouls]

You're the most accurate and overall topic covering gamer out there! Thanks for all your hard work and coverage!

[@F1ghtGam3r]

Please do videos on the two D&D beat em ups, the bouncer, urban reign, mortal kombat shaolin monks, the scott pilgrim vs the world game, dragon's crown, & mighty morphin power rangers mega battle

[@Tre_Ason_Number7]

It’s always a pleasure Top Hat

[@mikerussell9075]

Wasn't Haggar in one of the Marvel v Capcom's?

[@bluestripetiger]

Is it just me or in the thumbnail does Haggar's face resemble Freddy Ray Mercury, lead singer of Queen?

[@darthbrooks4366]

Final fight and Magic sword dbl pack was amaze ballz.

[@BrimarBrimar-gv5lc]

I loved final fight as a kid, Mike Hagger looked like my dad on steroids 😂😂

[@geckoo9190]

I think that the characters in final fight were designed based on characters on street fighter, so haggar was supposed to be zangief and because their move sets are so similar I think that they decided not to put two so similar characters on the same game.

[@barryklinedinst6233]

You might upset a few people talking about new york city the way you do

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

Upsetting people has never bothered me before haha

[@evansusmc]

26:04 yeah this version brought back a few more things but the graphics, sound and frame rate were terrible.

[@SonicFrake]

It's amazing how much better something can be when you don't know what you're missing. My parents got me this game along with a Super Nintendo for Christmas and I absolutely loved it. Little me never heard of Guy or Poison or anything about this game aside what my SNES told me and I was greatly satisfied with what I got.

[@PaulGirdlestone]

Haggar has appeared in MVC3 at least. But yeah, I wanna see him in SF6.

[@jamesbounds]

A true classic right here.

[@allenniumfalcon]

Still a masterpiece ! Bring back Mike Haggar for SF6

[@youkai3785]

I think at this point on the timeline, Haggar would be retired from both city politics and street fighting.

[@allenniumfalcon]

@@youkai3785 There's a character called Oro who fights and he's over 120 years old. Nobody retires. Plus how many years has Sakura been a schoolgirl? yet they keep dragging her back each game for thirsty weirdos

[@chavacado5168]

Forgot to mention Hagar is a playable character in MvC3

[@Robert-nl3fd]

I have all of these on my SNES mini

[@ThunderForce222]

Actualy. Haggar was in U/MVC3

[@Juice2Fifty]

Came here to say the same thing 👍🏼

[@apollolux]

That's still not him being playable in Street Fighter yet, though.

[@Juice2Fifty]

@@apolloluxYou’re not wrong, but I’m not sure if he considered that. I would’ve have expected him to state, “Although appearing in the Marvel v. Capcom series, Haggar has yet to make an appearance in the Street Fighter series…”

[@yourlocalFrostingfan]

​@@Juice2Fifty but he would be in old age if he does now, because haggar was born in 1940s and he was in his 40s when first final fight take place,

[@Juice2Fifty]

@@yourlocalFrostingfan Not saying he should be featured in the series or future games, just that he was already featured in MVC3. Simply agreeing with @ThunderForce222

[@anthonybird546]

Abigail was the second to last boss, and joined Street Fighter V

[@jobforafrank]

Bro came out swinging at new yorkers lmao

[@maza36]

I enjoyed final fight for snes even though it was limited to what it was

[@UToobUsername01]

Capcom should give Final Fight a HD remaster like they did with Super Street Fighter Turbo. Add a few extra characters as unlockables just like the Gameboy Advance Port. (SF Alpha Guy and SFAlpha Cody) Then do one for FF2 (a total remake of the game) and HD Remaster of FF3. If they don't want to do it, maybe a reboot of Final Fight inspired by the Yakuzxa games?

[@WillieTroxler]

I hope Capcom brings back Final Fight and give us Final Fight 4. That would be awesome!

[@bahmat]

I don't understand why SoR, Double Dragon, and TMNT all have modern day sequels, but we still have to see anything from Final Fight.

[@suryans5851]

Because, unfortunately, Capcom doesn't want to take risks with their other IPs and make games that might not sell well (even though fans have been quite vocal about games like Final Fight, Darkstalkers, Rival Schools, etc)

[@liquidghost]

Am I the only one wanting a serious project remake of THIS game! I mean all the RE Remakes have been great, but I want a Final Fight 1 Remake with serious added in depth story line. I want a slight back story connecting Zangief and Haggar having the same Coach/Trainer when they were younger being the reason as to why they have a similar move set giving a nod to Ryu and Ken. They wouldn't have to train together at the same time just have the same trainer. Which means I want Hagger to have the Spinning Piledriver in FF1 Remake. I want depending on what character you pick that you'll start off in a different location of the city kind of like how Leon and Claire split up and have different paths in RE2. For example if you picked Cody you'd start at Jessica's house going to pick her up and realize she's not there, Guy you'd start out at their gym while receiving the news from Haggar or Cody. If you pick Haggar you'd start out at the Mayor's Office thus giving different paths/playthroughs and a chance for times where the heroes meet up at different locations of the city to fight together before getting split up again. I want the heroes to have walkie talkies or something to communicate like Leon and Claire did throughout Racoon City. Have the last mansion be more grand and have all the team eventually meet up there for the Final Round. It'd be great if the bosses where somehow more epic too plus giving insight to how sadistic these guys really are thus having their fights be more dramatically invested of the outcome. Give the characters specials and voice actors because Don Frye would be the perfect voice for Hagger and the Japanese audience are somewhat familiar with him as a fighter. Lastly, I want a full on unheard of license/sponsorship collaboration with Nike and Adidas for Guy and Cody officially wearing their products 😂. Capcom could even collaborate with Red Wing boots or something for Haggar 😅 Hey a fan can dream, and to be purposely over dramatic, my heart yearns for this game! As a child there was no cooler m'fer on the planet then Cody!

[@vickyx3154]

all haggar move set are the same as zangief

[@TheKaindemonic78]

Sodom was inspired from the German thrash band Sodom. Notice the character and the logo

[@hattorihanzo2275]

Other than the name I see no connection.

[@ghosturiel]

Check out Final Fight LNS. A modded version of Final fight and play as tons of capcom characters. It is awesome!

[@stevenrodriguez3891]

Haggar has been busy in the recent Marvel 🆚 Capcom games

[@NYKgjl10]

Prior to Street Fighter 6, I was hoping Haggar could finally be a playable character, but once again, Capcom dropped the ball.

[@goldenglowmaster8510]

I'm assuming you have never played Saturday Night Slam Masters that is the other game Hagar wasin

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

I have, I've made several videos on it.

[@goldenglowmaster8510]

@@TopHatGamingManChannel well the way you described Hagar it was like he wasn't in any other game.

[@chickenalaking1319]

Haggar wearing braces?!

[@madgeararcade4274]

Happy 35th Anniversary to my favorite game of all time!

[@KenMasters.]

A 35th Anniversary, and still no Final Fight comeback from Capcom themselves.

[@maruoshi7931]

Did you use IA to generate that guy on the thumbnail.

[@registereduser]

17:47 How I’ll always say it. :D

[@user-kp9kz3tg3b]

Isn't Haggar in Marvel vs Capcom 3? ❓❔

[@skykid4000]

Let’s talk about the OUTRAGE!!!! It didn’t cause!! OUTRAGE!!!

[@alexstroud7250]

Hagar is just zangief

[@fanchfustec8697]

Notice to mention Axel and Slash from guns n' Roses featured in thé game! You know where you are?!! You re in thé jungle baby!

[@KenMasters.]

My only problem with this franchise is that it plays nothing like Street Fighter. Good thing Mighty Final Fight and Final Fight Tough were the ones to do so by adding special moves.

[@jks1311]

it was a massive success when it came out in 1990 on the super famicom this is a complete lie they also did SF2 which was another incredible success

[@bigshorty4855]

That speedo "character" from streets of rage...

[@io5644]

The Super Famicom version is amazing for the time. Limitations and all. You had to be there tho.

[@alopexau]

I was there, even clueless young me was very disappointed by the state of this port.

[@nefariousmex2352]

I still liked the Snes version, I even liked the music better than the Sega CD release

[@LuciferHunter-kt7pm]

Fellow FF Sega CD lover!!! I still have the game but not the Sega CD.

[@jamesmcgeachy5433]

🎉

[@michaelrussell3890]

Didn't mention arguably the best port: Final Fight One on GBA

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

Its not a port, its a different game, hence a different title. I've made a whole video on it previously though.

[@skibidi.G]

GODDAM KZbin, theyre deleting comments everywhere, mane.

[@Demoncradle]

Haggar being in marvel 3/ultimate doesn’t count as a street fighter game unfortunately

[@brawnzen]

Nope; Hagar's got no time these days for rumble appearances.Too busy with day-to-day admin.

[@ShiitakeWarrior]

23:27 - *_"DISGUSTING!!!"_*

[@milestrombley1466]

Street Fighter: Final Fight.

[@shadown5757]

Well to be fair in a way the character design,and weapon designs give an air of streets of rage all over it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@UndeadEggmiester]

Ots weird that you say " people were do upset and hated the snes version because it wasn't as good as the arcade version". Because honestly no kids back thrn cared or brought it up when talking about it. It at least ehere i lived they didn't. But then maybe its just where i lived snd in some places people cared.

[@Buckdawg]

It didn't. You just wanted a clickbait title.

[@timalice-2833]

I never thought of Nintendo of America as Bible thumping. After all, they used to remove all forms of Christian symbolism from their games. Like removing crosses and bibles from castlevania and such. Definitely trying to be family friendly though.

[@ENiceGeo]

Yeah, back then it was so they wouldn't offend Christians or get bad publicity. It was a probable reason as to why they didn't take Wisdom Tree to court for making unlicensed NES games.

[@aznluvr7]

I don't know why you keep referring to Final Fight for the SNES as a disappointment. Were you even alive when it came out? It was one of the first games I got for the SNES and I thought it was great. Since I was not even 10 years old, I hadn't even played the arcade, so it didn't bother me. Most people would consider Final Fight for the SNES a great port, except for the exclusion of the 2 player mode.

[@blumiu2426]

It's safe to say everything about Poison's design is biological female while making up whatever to say she isn't. I never knew there was post-op trans in the 80s that could do that level of work lol! A tell they would have is in anime they will hire a male VA to get it across and often give tells away in the design. However, sex sells and Poison is a better seller as a woman than trans. I didn't know they gave a statement of one thing being true in the West and another for Japan. It reminds me of, but nowhere near egregious as Arc Systemworks retconning Bridgett to be whatever they thought would get sales in the West, only to piss everyone off.

[@mich722]

In the video it's mentioned that in Japan, Poison is considered not post-op.

[@blumiu2426]

@@mich722 I thought he said the opposite...Post op in the West then.

[@suryans5851]

The actual character designer says Poison is a "new half" in his notes so you can use your imagination to figure out what that might be

[@mich722]

@@blumiu2426 Post-op in the West, 'tucked under' in Japan.

[@mich722]

@@suryans5851 'Newhalf' is the Japanese term for Transgender, who are usually not post-op.

[@beagsx3]

I thought the Vegans may have kicked off because your character eats burgers and joints of meat! 😀

[@longtallshorty5791]

Durrrrrr I thought the vegans durrr durrr durrrrrrrrr!!!! Imagine being such an insecure, nothing loser, that someone else's life choice that affects you in no way at all, infiltrates your mind to the point you have to bring it up in situations that are in no way whatsoever related. You are such a weak waste of space.

[@katerinaquinn5482]

Am I the only one who sees the irony that he's from the country that originates the English language but he can't speak it can't pronounce simultaneously controversy or innovative what is it with KZbinrs

[@SofaKingWeTodEd666]

The game lied! This wasn't the final fight, there were other fights after it!

[@nateword]

Zangief is clearly Haggar!!

[@mich722]

This explains all the trap cosplays of Poison.

[@Ruperth316]

why dafuq does Haggar's suspender switch sides depending on which side he's facing? lol

[@metamorphicblood]

Same with weapons switching hands… video game physics just worked in a strange way back then, haha.

[@billcook4768]

It didn’t. Clickbait is part of your charm, but this is a bit much.

[@omersarcadeadventures2152]

Looks exactly like Cadillacs and dinosaurs

[@danielhager8399]

I don’t understand why pretending to beat women is preferable to reading the Bible? Great work other than singling out Christians as being the biggest problem with the world in or outside of this game.

[@alexpage4355]

In all that talk about characters crossing over into the Street Fighter franchise, I'm surprised you didn't give at least a cursory mention to Haggar's appearance in Saturday Night Slammasters, instead, which may be part of the reason he's been so slow to make the jump over to SF. He's already _in_ another franchise, albeit a far less successful and recognizable one. Also, bible thumping? From the company that infamously removed all crosses and other religious iconography from their games? NoA's censorship was rather infamously heavy-handed, yes, but you can hardly blame it on religious zealotry. If anything it was the opposite: a determination to be as bland and inoffensive to as many people as humanly possible.

[@The_Texorcist]

I love how they were like “oh no no no we can’t have you beating women, we should just say they are trans, yeah beating trans characters is okay… right?”

[@cajampa]

I had no idea Poison was a trap in the Original Final fight. How sneaky making her a male to "skirt" the morality about the violence controversy.

[@misterpinkandyellow74]

She wasn't

[@titantim]

I'll never get the hype for streets of rage. It looks like a poor man's version of Final Fight. Yes, it was two players, but I'd take Final Fight over it any day. The sprites look like an impressive 8-bit game or a terrible 16-bit game.

[@mich722]

Streets of Rage 2 has excellent graphics, amazing soundtrack and great gameplay.

[@titantim]

@@mich722 But it REALLY doesn't have excellent graphics. Look at 24:39 Just pause it. It looks like a later generation NES game. The sprites are tiny and pixelated to heck. Music is subjective, so for me it's only...ok. But graphics were super behind in the times, especially compared to Final Fight. Edit: Ah you said SOR2. That's two different things then. FF was in competition with SOR1, which was released two years after.

[@gunman48100]

Posion is a female.

[@Marc_Araujo]

...not exactly.

[@io5644]

Well... she is though. As originally concieved anyway. Check out what was going on in gaming and culture in general to find the ultimate answer

[@KenMasters.]

@@Marc_Araujo Now she is, because the secret is out that her being trans is just a lie. But the alphabet community wants it to be canon.

[@suryans5851]

According to the character designer, Poison is a "new half" so use your imagination what that might mean

[@kylehawes4287]

Nerd 🤓 lol wow