Final Fight MD VS Final Fight Arcade - Stage 5 Complete! (Sega Genesis / Mega Drive)

[@MXRetroDev]

Trabalho de comparação maravilhoso como sempre, o único detalhe é que nesse round 5 reproduzir a 60 FPS faz diferença porque as luzes do fundo usam o esquema de piscarem rapidamente para simularem transparência, igual a alguns jogos fazem com as sombras. Quando puder, faça uma comparação dos rounds 4 e 5 com o SEGA CD também, para o pessoal perceber de vez que não tem nada a ver com o SEGA CD o FFMD.

[@PlumbDrumb]

So, you did not use Sega CD as a foundation?

[@BigBillKelly-x2z]

@@PlumbDrumb No, this is built ground up for the Megadrive, using the original arcade assets, some changed. This has way less dithering than the Sega CD version, more background animation plus tons more. It looks way better.

[@MXRetroDev]

@@PlumbDrumb At the very beginning of development, I used some assets from SEGA CD only as a base or placeholder, but later I replaced them with arcade sprites and scenarios, duly rescaled by 83.33% horizontally, and corrected pixel by pixel. This ends up taking longer than programming the game itself.

[@PlumbDrumb]

@@MXRetroDev Ah yes, I can imagine that takes a lot of work. It looks fantastic. You've done a great job with the colors so far, too!

[@PlumbDrumb]

@@BigBillKelly-x2z Yes, the added animations take it above the arcade version :) You can tell this is a true passion project

[@TheKiman2]

Seriously impressive!!! It's amazing what you can do with time and more memory. Sure the color palette is reduced but you'd never know if you don't have a side by side with the arcade version. We saw faithful translations with Darius and Fantasy Zone in the mini systems... there's even more background animation compared to the arcade. This is peak MD/Genesis! Bravo!

[@abcmaya]

I've always hated the genesis graphics because of the lack of colors available onscreen. But this is truly impressive! It's super close to the arcade. And yes. You wont really notice the difference unless you have it side by side and nit pick the crap out of it.

[@mleolv426]

@@abcmaya only thing I notoce is the primary colours do not pop like the arcade. Blues and oranges are pretty mute. Could be because of the way each was captured though.

[@malcolmar]

Outstanding. I also love the moving car headlights in the background. Little touches like that help to bring the background alive. Very well done indeed!

[@tadeuferreira4059]

This can be one of the greatest releases for the Genesis...

[@neganmessias6940]

Ad the Light effect is a great idea, specially the Road with the moving Car lights on the other Side, brilliant 👏

[@Crystallums]

Simply amazing! I think the MD version is destined to be the definitive one, great job with this FF1.

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

How can it be the definitive version when it's by nature worse than the arcade?

[@yandman26]

Mega Drive does what Arcade don't

[@ajsingh4545]

It looks great. The sunlight effect and how the light is reflecting off the water near the boss area looks way better in the arcade version though

[@jsr734]

STEREO SOUND!! 😲

[@cyberpc1333]

Atomic Runner MD >>> Arcade

[@RheoGamer]

O Background ficou vivão na versão de mega, e as lamparinas acesas, os caras tiram onda legal

[@DarkbluesEXE25]

Excellent Port MEGA Final Fight SEGA Mega-Drive

[@AkumaMotos]

Eu tenho esse jogo original pro Sega CD, eu simplesmente amo esse jogo! Parabèns pelo projeto!

[@thehumbleone1983]

Wow the developer has done amazing work on this I love and grew up with the mega drive it’s a great console

[@davidrivera9061]

😮! The MD version is truly impressive! The city is animated in the background, the overhead lamps flicker, as well as the background lamps. Forget the arcade or the Sega CD version, the MD version is looking amazing!

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

It makes no sense for the lamps to be flickering. The street is completely bright. It's night time. If the lamps were flickering the street should be getting dark and light too. It's the complete opposite of the original artist's intention and looks weird.

[@BigBillKelly-x2z]

Extra movement in the background on the Megadrive also the foreground parallax which is not in the arcade version, amazing!

[@markula_4040]

Nice touch with the moving lights in the background simulating cars driving

[@1985dossantos]

Truly impressive. Excellent work. No words for this amazingess.

[@VirajKathwadia]

This is one game I am looking forward to seeing finished. Keep up the great work guys!

[@crystalwater505]

It's incredible how the MD version has animations that aren't even in the Arcade original, like the lights in the back and the lighting in the MD lamp posts are animated as well. Extremely impressive.

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

It makes no sense for the lamps to be flickering. The street is completely bright. It's night time. If the lamps were flickering the street should be getting dark and light too. It's the complete opposite of the original artist's intention and looks weird.

[@Eso96]

Incrível 🎉

[@LE_FENYX]

Estamos Chegando na Reta Final !

[@RetroAllStar-v8o]

A versão para o MD mostra que o trabalho tá sendo feito com muita dedicação. Olha os Sprints, olha os gráficos dos cenários, até o fundo tá lindo. Olha a diferença da lua tá bem mais detalhado. Meu sonho seria outras pessoas que entendem disso fazerem mais projetos assim, pegado mais jogos do arcade e colocar pro MD.

[@albertoluna4302]

Gran juego, estaría bien ver una comparación con el Final fight de Mega cd.

[@cyberpc1333]

A versão do Mega tem música e iluminação melhor que o Arcade, trabalho insano da MXRetroDev!

[@edmocaldas]

Obrigado por mencionar as músicas, mas o trabalho não é da MXRetroDev, tampouco se trata dum grupo. Na verdade o trabalho é da CFX, composto por Mauro Xavier, Master Linkuei e Edmo Caldas.

[@ArthurPTX]

Sera que essa maravilha vai rodar no everdrive chines?

[@fornieles89]

El trabajo de esta gente es para quitarse el sombrero, enhorabuena por el esfuerzo

[@juarezmiranda]

Incrível como ficou esse trabalho, gráficos, som, paleta de cores, tudo incrivel. Até o som esta muito parecido, apesar do Mega Drive ter apenas a metade da capacidade sonora do Arcade, os caras deram um jeito do som ficar parecido usando alguns timbres diferente.

[@ajsingh4545]

Amazing effort team 🎉

[@grgmj1980]

Wow! Better than the SNES and Sega Cd

[@jsr734]

Each one has its own merits. The SNES version has positional stereo sound effects and the CD version has a nice remixed sound track and less slowdown and sprite flicker.

[@240pgames4]

Imagina se o Final Fight estivesse sendo codificado em assembly..... Daria pra extrair mais desempenho ainda do console. Mas vai ficar na imaginação mesmo porque assembly é pra quem manja muito

[@J4mesB0nd-k9q]

SGDK está evoluindo sempre. Acredito que não há perda de desempenho por usar linguagem C.

[@PorcoZio79]

Não é questao de manjar. É produtividade e ciclo de desenvolvimento (depuracao etc.). É uma pessoa fazendo o trabalho de varias.

[@juarezmiranda]

12:32 esse degrade esta mais bonito do que o Arcade, o Mauro Xavier e a Galera do Staff do Projeto esta de parabéns. Espero os próximos projetos pelo andei sabendo vai ser autoral, projeto totalmente inédito, seja tão bom quanto, esse do port do FF MD.

[@ateuquantico3699]

Tão deixando a gente sonhar

[@TheBattlefield1942]

Poderoso e saudoso Mega Drive... 😌

[@jason.kchantziaras8456]

I wish Capcom brought ths out back in 1990 on the Genesis I always knew it could pull off amazing arcade ports just look at Strider and Mercs I wish some make a version of Street fight for the genesis

[@PlumbDrumb]

Amazing achievement here!

[@ccledman]

Sensacional

[@stewartbladensb]

Still amazes me what the Mega Drive can do with just more cartridge memory. Just think what we could have had if memory was cheap back in the day.

[@ghostbombl8034]

Md has more back ground animation,like the moving traffic and flickering light.The buildings are in different detail quilty. Md is simple big,The arcade more detail and small in the building's. The moon has more detail in md than arcade surprising. 😅Some bad guys are different colors.

[@BigBillKelly-x2z]

Also the Megadrive has foreground parallax where the arcade does not!

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

It makes no sense for the lamps to be flickering. The street is completely bright. It's night time. If the lamps were flickering the street should be getting dark and light too. It's the complete opposite of the original artist's intention and looks weird.

[@scorpionsbox2195]

GENIAL!!! 🤩

[@ledorzejean-etienne3747]

Imagine such a port was released back then....

[@fdtdev]

Deberia publicarlo capcom y venderse a precio full. es el port que deberian haber hecho.

[@jsr734]

No creo que Capcom hubiera querido gastar en un cartucho de 4 Mbytes allá por 1990. Ya el port de Super Famicom que era de sólo 1 Megabyte y costaba como 70-80 dolores de la época.

[@fdtdev]

@@jsr734 pero luego hicieron el de megacd mas tarde. Osea que interes en el juego habia. Y a esa altura ya eran mas frecuentes los cartuchos de ese tamaño.

[@heinrich3582]

Os cara tão tirando a maior onda, muita graça mesmo

[@juarezmiranda]

7:00 no SNES essa musica da parte do banheiro publico é um show de horror.

[@williamguile1788]

Most impressive!

[@raymiecall]

In quite a few ways, the MD looks like it's outdoing the original. Impressive!

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

Literally looks worse than the arcade in every way.

[@dantescaliber35]

That sounds like Heat Man stage on MM2 if you listen to it carefully enough

[@PONTOCRITICO]

Mesmo com muito menos recursos, pode se dizer que o Final Fight do Mega Drive está bem mais próximo do fliperama do que a versão do SNES e isso não é hipocrisia. Os gráficos simplesmente são mais sólidos e torneados, sem a distorção sofrida pela baixa resolução em proporção 8:7, o grande calcanhar de Aquiles do console 16-bit da Nintendo. Ainda que com uma paleta de cores tão inferior, o obtido no Mega Drive impressiona, que também roda o jogo mais rapidamente do que o SNES, o que não deixa de ser curioso... Durante muito tempo o console foi acusado de não ter recursos o bastante pra portar o Final Fight, contudo, sendo essa questão estritamente legal. Onde mais se nota perda de qualidade graficamente é ali no cenário do WC, um problema crônico do Mega não só de cores simultâneas, mas até de tons disponíveis. Mesmo assim, na saída do cenário o desenrolar da fase vai sendo bem executado com o paralax e uma quantidade razoável de inimigos. A parte da estátua da liberdade também foi visivelmente simplificada, principalmente no pedestal. Ainda dá pra melhorar se houver interesse.

[@protossevolution3361]

Eu entendo sua empolgação, mas ao fazer uma comparação, se você não leva o contexto em conta e analisa de um ponto de vista anacrônico do jeito que fez, fica parecendo uma análise tola, sinceramente. Recomendo se informar sobre o desenvolvimento e época de lançamendo do FF no Snes.

[@CanaldoCosmog]

quando sair vou imprimir a rom e dormir abraçado

[@pedrobatistalopes2833]

Muito bom

[@giovannibocchi9686]

this port is INCREDBILE, i hope you can finish it soon! Really thanks for it! Is this demo available? thanks!

[@ironhell813]

It shouldn’t be, it’s not legal.

[@giovannibocchi9686]

@@ironhell813 the previous demo were available...

[@latinosalpoder1429]

I didn't know Final Fight was on Sega Genesis.

[@MJRIDS_]

It looks like there's a error with the pipe/ sword swing animation. I like how there's one more enemy on screen than the Sega CD version.

[@frankcastle5393]

Se não ficar esperto, diz que do Mega Drive é do Arcade kkkkk PODEROSO MEGA DRIVE!

[@juniormena8065]

Esta melhor que o original do arcade! Impressionante

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

It's literally worse than the arcade in every way.

[@marcovalenti2278]

Hi, will the game be produced and marketed once finished? Thanks

[@CurtindoAqueleDrama]

No Mega a estátua da liberdade 🗽 não está mijando no sol 😂

[@IamLegend32]

Would this have been realistically possible to be done on the actual hardware and the game woikd fit in a Megadrive cartridge?

[@ajsingh4545]

Yes but you gotta remember that this would require a big rom size which would be more expensive so you would have to pay a high price to buy the game.

[@carloscaribe7740]

CPS1 Capcom Arcade System = Megadrive

[@jsr734]

still not. Its clear that the CPS has less trouble with so many sprites on screen and the MD version has a lot of sprite flicker and there are hints of slowdown here and there, and that is in single player mode. Still an impressive use of the MD/Genesis color pallette, oh, and also great sounding music.

[@Alex-wx7vn]

Will this be able to be ported to a cart to play on the Genesis?

[@TransCanadaPhil]

is it the same graphics ported over from the Sega CD version or a totally different rework?

[@Vegeta-79]

This is build from ground . Totally new work,only based on the arcade assets

[@malant2719]

Development of this game still continuing.....am still waiting for completion of shinobi arcade for the mega drive which started way before this 😢

[@TiagoxInside]

SNES ok mas ate o Arcade sendo surrado pelo Mega?? kkk

[@gerdmuller8258]

ARCADE 🔝

[@Bashento]

Genesis still does!

[@AlcaldeDeMetroCity]

Pero está terminado ya???

[@ryudj5574]

Jamma-Drive

[@yoyoyonasa]

😮

[@Dealwithitretro]

Link

[@Vectormantudeoz]

Es igual, eeees igual

[@juanjoserivasgarcia2336]

Increíble cono los fondos son superiores en esta versión de magadrive, con animaciones donde l aversión original de Arcade es estática. Insisto, si puedes lograr que la versión de megadrive soporte 3 JUGADORES de alguna manera, sería increíble. y de lejos la versión definitiva. de todos los tiempos. recuerda que puedes valerte de recursos como el 32X ó el Sega CD para optimizar memoria ó liberar a la megadrive de la reproducción de la música,.

[@jim1508]

Que horror essa suposta versão do mega

[@Luke-gu2tw]

Se isso é horror, então a versão de Snes e Sega CD são indescritivelmente horríveis, com exceção da OST do Sega CD

[@cyberpc1333]

Faz vc melhor no SNES, só toma cuidado com o processo da Nintendo!

[@cesaru3619]

Snes have the best music, arcade the best animations. Also, Andre is fat, ANDORE is muscular and brutal… not the same thing.

[@ricardonunes838]

só falou merda!!!

[@ajsingh4545]

Snes version could have been so much better. I hope someone hacks that version to add the missing content.

[@jsr734]

Yes, i like the SNES music. The jazzy tones really do well with the SNES soundchip. But this MD/Gen version has also very good soundtrack, similar to the CPS original but now in stereo. Overall both sound better than the original arcade regarding the BGM.