Final Verdict on the Broken Trailer Frame, Plus a New Problem!

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Slim Potatohead

Slim Potatohead

Күн бұрын

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@philmoorey1835
@philmoorey1835 Жыл бұрын
Fail to understand the extent of the leak. There is a drain hole below the cupboard . The belly band is usually caulked on the top between the body and the band and rivets are under the belly band gasket so almost no water should enter unless submerged. Yes there may be moisture damage over extended time but not to that extent!
@SlimPotatohead
@SlimPotatohead Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that was not the case. No caulking at all. I have just completed the seal myself. My theory (not proven until it rains) is that the curved hollow rubber collected all the water throughout the entire side and funnelled it to the end at the door, the one place that I was aware of that had a hole. The trailer was tilted to the front at the time and it had rained for 10 days. SP
@SlimPotatohead
@SlimPotatohead Жыл бұрын
Actually, slight change in theory. There's a fiberglass pocket on the inside of the joint that runs under the rubber. It's supposed to protect the inside, but the unsealed metal strip that holds the rubber, just lets it fill with water. The one hole is at the end on the line, so all that water exits there. I have since sealed off both the strip and every rivet all around the camper. SP
@patriciapiper6294
@patriciapiper6294 Ай бұрын
Hello Sp. Gotta hand it to ya on this mystery leak. I'm not patient. I'd be so mad and do a poor job of the fix. Keep going, man.❤😮
@chrisholliday1330
@chrisholliday1330 Жыл бұрын
I'm a tech for a trailer company. I saw the first cracked video, and I knew the other part would need some sort of reinforcement. The fix is actually going to be stronger than the original. I've been welding for over a decade. I would bet a large amount of money that you'll never have an issue again
@lorneomasta9559
@lorneomasta9559 Жыл бұрын
Hi,Slim. The breakage you experienced is common on trailers of that design. My Boler has bee fixed/reinforced at some time in its life. So has half the bolers out there .I am a machinist who works in a fabrication shop. I'm going to build a new frame for my camper and will discuss this situation with our engineer. I will keep you posted on what we come up with.
@paulcole2242
@paulcole2242 Жыл бұрын
I love the way you have changed the logo on the front so the manufacturers are not getting anymore free advertising!
@maryvought9244
@maryvought9244 Жыл бұрын
I used to have a small 21 ft Class C. I had a lot of fun with it over the years, but it started to become a money pit. Something was ALWAYS going wrong with it. I decided to go car camping instead and just throw up a decoy tent to hold my place when I am away from camp. So much easier to drive, wash, park and I find all I have to do is make sure the maintenance is done. Don’t miss my RV at all now! Thanks for the video Slim! I love the calm and centered way you approach your problems. You are an inspiration to me!❤
@rozcoates69
@rozcoates69 Жыл бұрын
One of the many things I love about you Slim…. You take great care of your trailer and suv! You find something wrong, you fix it! Right away and not next year! And you do things the right way! Thanks for continuing to give me something worth watching! 😊
@silaslongshot941
@silaslongshot941 Жыл бұрын
That's the issue with the aluminum frame, it's lightweight but the stuff is brittle compared to steel. The maker should have anticipated that those angled portions would be a major stress point and reinforced the area with extra plates like your repairs accomplished. Good luck with the leak chasing!
@WolfHeathen
@WolfHeathen Жыл бұрын
They did put reinforcement plates in that very spot which, at the very least, shows foresight on their part. All in all, I think they did their due diligence in spite of it breaking. I do however hope they make additional adjustments after this incident, though. Then again, most people don't use their campers like Slim does. They typically don't go "off road" with their campers which would put many times more stress on the frame than what would be considered normal operating conditions.
@ediemarie4475
@ediemarie4475 Жыл бұрын
You sure have had a lot of problems with this camper yet you keep a good attitude. Your a hard worker. 😢
@marywatkins9438
@marywatkins9438 Жыл бұрын
I like how proactive he is, too. Proper prior planning prevents problems.
@jonnycando
@jonnycando Жыл бұрын
A camp trailer as much as we hate to know is that the beating we give them makes serious maintenance necessary. Forgo it and you end up with rotten woodwork and leaks galore.
@bradhall3948
@bradhall3948 Жыл бұрын
I heard it described once, that every time an RV is pulled - it is subject to hurricane force wind and earthquake like disruption. Yet we expect them to stay solid as a rock.@@jonnycando
@ediemarie4475
@ediemarie4475 Жыл бұрын
@@bradhall3948 Humble Road says that. He says that he is afraid for the way some people do a van build.
@javadude666
@javadude666 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure a few beers 🍻 🍻 help.
@talkingbird7529
@talkingbird7529 Жыл бұрын
So much for customer service! My wife and I were talking about purchasing a trailer like yours for next year but seeing your experience and others we’ll be looking for something more reliable.
@SlimPotatohead
@SlimPotatohead Жыл бұрын
There are many manufacturers out there with excellent reputations. Consider looking into Bigfoot and Armadillo. SP
@minimaxmiaandme.4971
@minimaxmiaandme.4971 Жыл бұрын
Might I suggest a Little Guy Mini Max by Extreme Outdoors....it is a little teardrop that has a steel chassis with aluminum cage for the roof and sides. Have had mine for 2 years and have been happy. The manufacturer seems pretty good about repairs as I had a few in my 1st year which is to be expected in a new build. So far nothing else in the second year.
@user-nj4bz9dn9h
@user-nj4bz9dn9h 11 ай бұрын
@@SlimPotatohead Interesting., a golden opportunity missed. I mean, 172k subscribers, and many of which probably bought a Lair or Outback because of these videos. Is it really worth losing many potential sales due to not shelling out what is essentially the price that should be allotted due to shoddy work anyhow? Oh well, I know that I enjoy your exploits not for just the FG trailer, although it is how I found your channel, while upgrading my own FG Egg.
@debrasill3678
@debrasill3678 Жыл бұрын
Poor Slim, it's never ending work for you 😖 but, you never sweat it, and always keep a great, and calm attitude. We should all take a lesson from you. It's a good thing you are so handy, that you are able to handle all these smaller repairs on your own. Anyway....keep up the good work, and thanks so much for all you enjoyable videos 😊
@telmore6490
@telmore6490 Жыл бұрын
Slim, You made it through the hurricane last year without much leaking except around the door as I recall. I think you are doing pretty good overall as far as leaks go and are probably experiencing normal travel trailer wear and tear. As far as the frame goes shame on the manufacturer you are practically an ambassador for Canadian travel and OB. Who else gives so much of themselves and all the free advertising you supply
@mishu3271
@mishu3271 Жыл бұрын
Slim. Try reporting to Transport Canada as a Safety Defect In Manufacture. Our trailers are certified as “safe” to be on our motorways. This structural defect makes it not safe. Send pics and any docs from Trillium. I reported failure of the dealer installed electrical connections on my Santa Fe to my Vintage Trillium. They expanded the existing recall to include my 2015 SF. If they already have complaints yours will be a good one to add.
@karincorbin2355
@karincorbin2355 Жыл бұрын
I had a Sunrader which is a molded fiberglass motorhome. It too had that same type of belly band trim along the join line and it too had numerous leaks where there were fasteners. But it only leaked where the installers had drilled a hole that went completely though to the trailer interior. Sealing the fastener heads is just one of two measures needed for leak prevention in that area. The other preventative, must do, measure is to understand the cause and keep the trapped water from getting high enough to reach the fastener holes. What happens in a rain storm is that water gets trapped inside that channel and it rises up high enough to reach those fasteners. When you are parked on a slope it will build up very high at the lowest point the channel which just happened to be that end of the channel by your door. Fortunately there is a solution and that is to add some weep hole slots along the lower edge of the channel. I used a small cut-off disc in my Dremel rotary tool to create a series of horizontal slots for water drainage. Much like the weep hole slots you see at the lower edge of RV sliding windows. That will give the rain water an easy exit to the exterior instead of it exiting inside through the fastener locations. It takes a steady hand to cut those slots some do take the time to tape a piece of thin plywood onto the fiberglass right up against the channel right were you are working to prevent dinging the fiberglass if a slip of the tool should happen.
@SlimPotatohead
@SlimPotatohead Жыл бұрын
Sounds like an excellent fix. Thanks for the tip! SP
@anitamitchell3452
@anitamitchell3452 Жыл бұрын
We had a united sigh of relief about the under carriage trailer getting a form of endorsement. What a relief! I hope the weather stays good in your area for drying out the camper and correcting the last leak problem. It is my hope the company gets back to you about letting other buyers know to Be Aware of the issues. Thank you for caring when so many don't. Stay safe.
@TheWestlandgirl
@TheWestlandgirl Жыл бұрын
What a great idea to put a camera there to spot the leak! Great news that you found it. Hope that takes care of that. Glad your frame is good to go.
@panagea2007
@panagea2007 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want a replacement frame from a company whose first frame failed. I do remember thinking, that when you exchanged the steel frame for an aluminum one, that you would have trouble. A steel frame with a coating of Line-X might have been a better choice, albeit heavier. You do give your trailer a bigger pounding than most travelers.
@jmpattillo
@jmpattillo Жыл бұрын
One thought I had after your live chat where you talked about this was that you could run a coated steel cable or two under the trailer from bumper to hitch. That way you would keep the front and back from separating in the event of a failure. Probably not necessary now based on the engineer’s report, but I thought I would share anyway.
@RossEphgrave
@RossEphgrave Жыл бұрын
First thing I thought about as well. I'm an engineering technologist and I used to be a machine designer many years ago. Maybe even rig up a torsion bar system to join the back and front sections to prevent separation.
@kimbrandom2789
@kimbrandom2789 Жыл бұрын
The manufacturer's response is very disappointing. I would be very upset with that. Troubleshooting the leak was fascinating. I would have never thought that much water could come from such a small leak area. Thank you for all your!
@billrivenbark8983
@billrivenbark8983 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that the best campers were the two piece fiberglass campers. I guess they all have their issues. Plus, you use yours more than the average user does. Considering where you’ve been in it the last few years it’s actually held up pretty good. The frame cracking however is inexcusable from the manufacturer. I hope you keep it longer though as it now has character!
@hotlavatube
@hotlavatube Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you can avoid re-reviting the entire top half of the shell to the bottom, though it may come to that at some point to renew the seal. Btw, when you zoom in on the rivet hole at 18:50, you can also see a little moisture-loving critter walking around between the fiberglass layers. There might be some wood to worry about sandwiched between the fiberglass.
@gumby2241
@gumby2241 Жыл бұрын
OMG I just saw that too! there are insects living beneath the fiberglass and presumably eating the wood from the inside out!
@davemenard5089
@davemenard5089 Жыл бұрын
Great catch 👀. That’s probably not good.
@Maibu-OReiley
@Maibu-OReiley Жыл бұрын
So i told my friend who has the same camper as you about that frame problem. And much to my surprise, He Imediately went and looked and found micro cracks on both sides and is taking steps to get it fixed.
@richardthomas1743
@richardthomas1743 Жыл бұрын
Very good video Slim , an excellent warning to anybody that may have that type of trailer with Aluminum frame. Shame on the manufacturer for being a Weasel and saying that you needed to bring the trailer to them for repair/replacement. ! It is very obvious that they did not design that Aluminum frame properly for that application. Is there any type of Consumer Affairs in Canada that people can call to report and file a complaint about a defective product? Thanks for taking us along Slim. Wishing you all the best with your Camper Trailer!
@ScubaSteveCanada
@ScubaSteveCanada Жыл бұрын
I don't believe the trailer manufacturer makes the actual frame but purchase it from a company that does. It should be honoured under warranty with reimbursement regardless of where the trailer was fixed.
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 Жыл бұрын
I recall awhile back reading another YT small trailer owner had an aluminum frame break, but they replaced it with a stronger steel frame. Can't recall who it was though. Any good hot rod/4X4 fabrication shop could build a new frame, though obviously it wouldn't be cheap, though less than a new trailer.
@outbackwack368
@outbackwack368 Жыл бұрын
If you need to remove that Dicor sealant again in quantity, try using an oscillating tool with a flat scraper on it... MUCH faster and easier! And EternaBond tape is FANTASTIC as well.
@Paul.Douglas
@Paul.Douglas Жыл бұрын
Yep! I've done that one too. Works a treat!
@paclow44
@paclow44 Жыл бұрын
Maybe some warmth from a heat gun could help too? To soften it???
@geraldhenrickson7472
@geraldhenrickson7472 Жыл бұрын
Eternabond tape is awful. Anyone who has gone up on the roof on a warm day can attest to how fragile it is. One mis-step and its ruined. Dicor or other similar sealants are much more forgiving.
@r.j.2571
@r.j.2571 Жыл бұрын
I've used self leveling sealant on a roof vent, worked great for me.
@davesrvchannel4717
@davesrvchannel4717 Жыл бұрын
I always suggest independent suspension. It’ll take away some of the beating of the trailer, especially single axle trailers. Think of the tires as a basketball, if it’s full of air it’ll bounce high, half full it barely bounces. Since we (most people) fill tires to maximum pressure, our trailer is bouncing heavily down the road. Especially small trailers bounce easily breaking frames and mirrors, and causing leaks
@tc2882
@tc2882 Жыл бұрын
I thought a torsion axle *was* independent suspension, as the body of the axle is rigidly attached to the frame, while each wheel is free to move without influencing or being influenced by, the opposite wheel.
@davesrvchannel4717
@davesrvchannel4717 Жыл бұрын
@@tc2882 there are no coil springs, and no shocks. They’re slightly independent to move very little, only by flexing the axle to be independent. System I suggest is 100% independent
@ShawnPatterson402
@ShawnPatterson402 Жыл бұрын
it is true that many trailers just have tires set to the recommended maximum load pressure. I strongly suggest weighing a trailer when loaded for a trip and setting the tire pressures (perhaps with a 20-25% buffer) for that load. My trailer tires say max pressure 80psi, and the dealer had them set at 80psi, but I weighed it and my axles are carrying 6800 lls. So basically 1700lbs per tire. I then checked the tire charts for my size tire to find out pressure would be required for 2200 lbs (plenty of buffer) and that pressure turns out to be 55psi. Thus I have been running them at 55 psi for the last 6000 miles without any issue and a much smoother ride. Nothing moving much in the trailer at all anymore as far as I can tell.... safe travels
@larryboschen1287
@larryboschen1287 Жыл бұрын
I have had the argument for years about the LACK of shocks on trailers! The side wall on the trailer tires are to take the bouncing load.....thats just ridiculous.....thats why trailer tires have a shelf life and don't last. Shocks would help out in many ways on a trailer. For one, the fish plates are a good start, but I would add a support rod truss under the tongue of the trailer to counteract the bending load!! That coming from 45 years of fabrication and fixing problems.
@kingstonsean
@kingstonsean Жыл бұрын
@@larryboschen1287 Are you talking "service life" or "shelf life"?
@Troutay
@Troutay Жыл бұрын
I am glad you checked out the weld. I bet you will see more on this issue from others with this type of frame & trailer. Better to be over safe than sorry.
@joannsilva4715
@joannsilva4715 Жыл бұрын
Tator, when it rains it pours! Be glad you found the spot before things become much worse! And the frame, that was a nightmare, but now you can have sweet dreams sleeping under the stars in some really beautiful & cool location! Rest easy! ❤
@karenebarker9244
@karenebarker9244 Жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to see a Slim upload! I love the theodical way you approach problems and find solutions. We RVer folk are always finding issues to deal with. It's all part of the game. All the best
@bafergs
@bafergs Жыл бұрын
Sure appreciate the positive attitude you share regardless of issues beyond your control. Seeing your issue with a leak in the rivets reminds me of another camper who makes resealing the rivets under the trim a yearly maintenance project on his trailer. As always, I’m looking forward to your next adventure.
@barfass
@barfass Жыл бұрын
Your concern for your fellow camper is warranted. Wow. I have shared the video and have 2 friends who believe they have the same frame. Just sent them messages. I hope the company comes clean and acts accordingly. This could break them, but then again I was shocked that you only paid $1500 for the frame! Sheesh. Great deal, well... almost.
@SlimPotatohead
@SlimPotatohead Жыл бұрын
The price on the frame is $1500 as an adder on their website for new trailers. I traded in my old steel frame as part of the deal. SP
@Badgeweefixstuff
@Badgeweefixstuff Жыл бұрын
Well there you are someone said not to change the frame keep the steel one. But now it is fixed better than new awesome job. The response from manufacturer is normal. BRING IT BACK WE WILL FIX IT. yep not worth it good video. Live and learn 🛠️🇨🇦🛠️🇨🇦
@bobw9297
@bobw9297 Жыл бұрын
We added a shock suspension system to our 20-foot single axle ,it made a huge difference in the ride . Also, change your trailer tires for light truck tires , they are also much more flexible.
@campingboy9213
@campingboy9213 Жыл бұрын
Your frame issue is common on Boler and Trillium trailers too. Failure is always at the weld at the drop frame point. Good point .. inspecting your trailer does not take long, yet could safe major grief or catastrophe.
@P_RO_
@P_RO_ Жыл бұрын
Didn't know Boler had this issue; this is the other one you mentioned 😱
@brianevans4525
@brianevans4525 Жыл бұрын
Slim hi I'm Brian and I'm a retired diesel mechanic and I wanted to tell you when you was getting the aluminum trailer that as much off roading you do i would have kept the steel frame.and. I kinda worried about that happening and unfortunately it did but it could have been much worse. But we used to have aluminum trailers and we would find cracks on them all the time and usually when that happened we would scrap the trailer if it was on the main frame. . Just keep a close eye on it because aluminum is prone for cracking and as much off roading u do it's likely to happen again just keep an eye on it I been watching your channel for about 3 years. I'm just very thankful that you found it when you did. I think u have a guardian angel watching over u. Thanks be to God. Enjoy your channel and keep up the good work. I'm retired and now days I live in my Dodge caravan in Las Cruces NM. And as soon as I get my disability check approved I hope to be out on the road and hopefully we can meet one day have a great day. I'm from new Orleans. Moved here 3 years ago and I was heading to Arizona but ended up having a couple problems and decided to stay here.
@Paul.Douglas
@Paul.Douglas Жыл бұрын
I know you've had it inspected, but I'm concerned your frame will crack again, right at the weld where the doubler is. It's going from triple thickness and weldment right to the thin-section frame material. Please watch it like a hawk.
@hipdogdsv
@hipdogdsv Жыл бұрын
Brilliant way to find the leak. We saw it drip right down that rivet hole.
@anthonyguenther6008
@anthonyguenther6008 Жыл бұрын
Glad you found your leak. Thangs like that drive me crazy.
@omerfaruktatl1613
@omerfaruktatl1613 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching you and what you do, and I also learn English with your wonderful and understandable English.Thanks Slim ❤
@rrhopewell
@rrhopewell 9 ай бұрын
That was very scary. Glad it’s ok now.
@user-nv3kv2ir8s
@user-nv3kv2ir8s 6 ай бұрын
Thank u for the information we love it and thank you for the pictures be safe love you
@GoingNoWhereFast
@GoingNoWhereFast Жыл бұрын
I think your Outback has been talking to my Aliner!! It has a few hidden leaks I'll be fixing this winter!! Hey if your in the states in May 2024, The North American Aliner Rally is in Western NC, You could be my guest!
@SlimPotatohead
@SlimPotatohead Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick. The big solar eclipse is in April, I'll have to see where that takes me! SP
@GoingNoWhereFast
@GoingNoWhereFast Жыл бұрын
@@SlimPotatohead I will hopefully be camping at ground zero at Rend Lake Missouri for the eclipse. Can't make reservations until 10/8 Near St. Louis.
@johnringoo756
@johnringoo756 Жыл бұрын
This camper would have drove me nuts by now😜🥴😵‍💫
@southhillfarm2795
@southhillfarm2795 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with so many of your commenters. I think you’ve had this trailer for a while and it’s been good to you. Things will break and deteriorate, the environment is hard on manufactured goods and they require maintenance and some restoration over the course of its life. Wise move on the engineers opinion. Provides a level of comfort.
@costa2984
@costa2984 Жыл бұрын
My goodness, I don't remember your Aliner ever giving you this much headache. sorry for all this, but as always, your upbeat positivity is second to none. You really uplift all who encounter your videos.
@SlimPotatohead
@SlimPotatohead Жыл бұрын
Memory fails as you get older. Did you miss the 100 mods I did, or that the Aliner frame finally failed? I remember it well! SP
@mfi-cf7sp
@mfi-cf7sp Жыл бұрын
soooo glad I found you again! I used to watch your channel when I was dreaming of traveling and now that I have bought a big van to convert, I remembered how you for the shower into that little teardrop trailer and immediately thought of Potoahead 😂 missed you bro! I just duck off media a lot
@janewardguaraldi7975
@janewardguaraldi7975 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your adventures. Campers are like boats. Something is always shaking loose. I’m glad you have resolved your frame failure and hopefully, resolved your leak. We have had a few leaks along our travels, too, but it’s all part of the adventure 😊. Many safe and enjoyable travels ahead.
@andrew81632
@andrew81632 Жыл бұрын
Slim, I'm in Calgary and I've had issues this year with the manufacturer as well, and I wasn't even trying to have something fixed. Last I spoke to them I was told Joe is sick and has left the company. They also told me they moved to Carsland. My 2004 Outback has a steel frame and so far no issues, however water was a major problem. I was going to just sell it, but because your videos have been so inspiring I ended up replacing the completely saturated wood, then glassed it all back together. Too much to write in a comment, really looking forward to your belly band fix.
@alannachristie6495
@alannachristie6495 Жыл бұрын
Love the old switcheroo at the end ❤
@suzyfoster623
@suzyfoster623 11 ай бұрын
I hope you can get it all fixed..🙂
@bettyjeanpetrinovich7373
@bettyjeanpetrinovich7373 2 ай бұрын
Excellent patience!!!
@HuckWinnie-fu4dr
@HuckWinnie-fu4dr Жыл бұрын
I have a vintage fiberglass camper (one of the original Trilliums from the 70s) and I follow a lot of groups, forums, etc. related to fiberglass campers. You are certainly not alone in your aluminum frame problem. Lots of folks have shared similar issues in the FB groups - serious problems with the frames and radio silence from the manufacturer after the first few days of reporting the problems. If you visit the “Trillium Trailer Owners” group on Facebook and search “Outback” “aluminum frame” you will see that this is not an uncommon problem. In fact, I just saw a for sale post in the group when searching and the seller is quick to share that theirs does NOT have the aluminum frame, because of the reputation. I’ll stick with my nearly 47 year old original Trillium vs these new ones. Belly bands have had their (fixable) issues for generations, so the Outback folks building them should have known that doing it this way was going to be problematic. Sorry you’re having these problems, but sadly - not surprised. Your advice to steer clear of them is good advice.
@jimnjele.bean-dayone3505
@jimnjele.bean-dayone3505 Жыл бұрын
Great video sir ! I feel you are absolutely right about sealing up the rivets. I have a 6x10 converted cargo trailer and I need to check out the welds. As far as I know there are no problems BUT to check the welds will give me peace of mind and cost me a bit of time verses loosing my rig. Thank you for sharing
@marzymarrz5172
@marzymarrz5172 Жыл бұрын
Yep, its good to keep the nest clean.
@DoRC
@DoRC Жыл бұрын
Just FYI the lap sealant is really only a secondary barrier and it's designed primarily to redirect water. The primary seal is between the thing and the roof. If it's leaking that seal has failed and that is the seal it actually needs to be repaired. This requires removing the vent and replacing sealant between the vent and the roof. You may also find when you remove the vent that is cracked or damaged in some other way. If that's the case then you want to replace the vent.
@SlimPotatohead
@SlimPotatohead Жыл бұрын
Keep watching the video. The cause will be revealed later on. SP
@DoRC
@DoRC Жыл бұрын
@@SlimPotatohead Yeah I saw the whole thing I was just saying that if you suspect something is leaking simply removing the lap sealant and replacing it isn't the right way to fix it.
@jamesb9780
@jamesb9780 Жыл бұрын
That's crazy about the frame. I remember watching the new frame video years ago and was surprised to see the title of this video. Glad it's all fixed up now.
@carolynmesser7199
@carolynmesser7199 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you feel better about the welds and the engineers report .I know how I would feel if it were me . Thx Slim .😊
@campingboy9213
@campingboy9213 Жыл бұрын
To remove the caulking, heat the tip of a 1 inch metal putty knife. It glides through the caulk. I do about 5 inches and then heat it up again. Note to others. Only use this on Aluminum or fiberglass roofs.
@dustyroads834
@dustyroads834 Жыл бұрын
Hey Slim. If you still want more reassurance with the frame issue go to a hardware store. Buy 2 lengths of 3/8” aircraft cable and cable clamps. Loop one end around your axle and the other to your safety chains under the trailer loosely on each side. Zip tie them up out of the way. If the frame fails again at least the trailer will safely stay with you.
@SlimPotatohead
@SlimPotatohead Жыл бұрын
Good non-intrusive solution, Thanks. SP
@tc2882
@tc2882 Жыл бұрын
One issue I see with the frame is that the problem area is part of a span that runs from the tongue jack to the axle. All the load is carried to the ground at those two ends. You could take a lot of that load off the joint by adding stabillizer jacks at the front corners or by using something like bottle jacks directly under the joint when parked. That would alleviate some of the stress the joint takes, including when you're moving about inside the trailer.
@lawrenceliketheriver
@lawrenceliketheriver Жыл бұрын
I know right? Why hasn't anyone else mentioned this? not sure if slim has the 13 or 15' trailer but the span between tongue wheel and axle is looking to be about 10' yet the manufacturer is only using a 2 x 3 ALUMINUM box beam to support part of the trailer weight AND people AND gear AND snow. I'm 250lbs and I'll bet that all I need to do is jump once or twice and that beam will be bent if not cracked as well. I am guessing but the crack is probably dead centre to axle/tongue wheel (or really close). For $30-40 aluminum stabilizer jacks would fix the problem (or at least stop making it worse) when stationary and camping.
@DepartmentofWackyIdeas
@DepartmentofWackyIdeas Жыл бұрын
I drilled out and replaced the rivets in my fiberglass trailer. The replacements I purchased have solid heads. I put a dab of Micor gutter sealant in the holes before inserting and “popping” them. Another place I’ve had leaks was around the windows. I found that it is important to keep the drains in the rubber seals cleaned out.
@tdiddle8950
@tdiddle8950 Жыл бұрын
I think an orbital hitch would be a great investment for you if you're planning on doing more off-road towing. It can help to prevent bottoming out and improve handling, which can make your camper safer and more enjoyable to tow.
@JakeGraveling
@JakeGraveling Жыл бұрын
To answer the question about the frame design change - we had the same thing happen about a month after Slim’s Michigan video was released. In talking with Outback trailers they said their prior welder was not installing a reinforcement plate on the bottom of the frame that was on the blueprint for the aluminum frame. At some point they caught it and changed them going forward and have a different welder with aluminum welding background but it was implied that all early Outback aluminum frames are missing the plate.
@davemenard5089
@davemenard5089 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this valuable PSA. I like the final clip where you get rid of the old "Out Back". They owe you IMO
@billdonnelly1134
@billdonnelly1134 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting video. Welding job certainly looks stronger and more durable than original. I like 👍 the way you methodically tracked down that leak. Shows a great deal of patience. Well done 👏!
@danielsweeney6742
@danielsweeney6742 Жыл бұрын
Slim watching you remove the sealant off your vent. I watched your vent move.
@AndreaCzarnecki
@AndreaCzarnecki Жыл бұрын
Hey Slim - I can completely relate to this and have had a similar scary experience! I have a Trillium and have had many, many issues with the Calgary manufacturer. When we had them weld a bike rack on to the back of the frame, it fell off WHILE WE WERE DRIVING, with bikes on (and no, it wasn't overloaded with too many bikes). Fortunately, we were driving out of a parking lot when this happened, but we were nevertheless on a highway with cars behind us. Had we been going full speed, there would have been a terrible accident. The manufacturer offered no explanation or anything, and certainly did not show concern. We had a different welder work on the bike rack after that and have had no problems. We also have had many other concerning issues. As well, my last email to the manufacturer was not replied to. It is important that people be aware of these structural/welding issues.
@Tipledan
@Tipledan 11 ай бұрын
This has been an interesting set of videos. Thanks to you, Slim
@maryvalent961
@maryvalent961 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for your repair issues. The selling point of fiberglass trailers is no leaks!
@thomasmurray4407
@thomasmurray4407 Жыл бұрын
Hi Slim going back to Ronald Regan "trust but verify" that I'd to say keep a sharp eye on the frame going forward for what may happen. Have a nice day. Tom at the NB-NS border
@LilyWasHereMB
@LilyWasHereMB Жыл бұрын
When you featured that mirror I liked it so much I bought one. I broke it within a week.
@bengalipeau1968
@bengalipeau1968 Жыл бұрын
Sorry about your mirror. I had a clock affix to the wall of my unit with velcro and it also fell off. I put the clock back up with the same adhesive velcro but added old fashion tum tacks to secure the velcro on the wall. This summer I went to Tuktoyuktuk (1876kms, 5 days travel there & back, average speed 52km/hr, you ain't seen nothing on gravel roads until you drive the Dempster) without anything falling off the wall. Cheers.
@01maxxer
@01maxxer Жыл бұрын
Well narrated Slim. Always like tuning into your videos.
@pamhutzell8268
@pamhutzell8268 Жыл бұрын
They say it's not if it's going to leak , it's when! Glad you found it early it could have been worse.
@pattynelson9915
@pattynelson9915 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your next video
@anitasimmons3599
@anitasimmons3599 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video. Trailer inspection is very important especially with older travel trailers. Aluminium is lighter, more corrosion resistant, more flexible than steel and saves on gas over the life of the trailer. That said the welds are often the week point and aluminum can fatigue at places that have a lot of torque points and will break or the welds with fail a lot sooner than a good steel trailer. It is good you had it looked at by an engineer and did the suggested extra plates. I like to use the snap caps on any exposed rivets and fill the rivets with Dicor before I snap the caps closed. Thank you again for taking us along on your adventures. Safe travels.
@jessicahighleydanner5713
@jessicahighleydanner5713 Жыл бұрын
Hi Slim - we really enjoy your videos. Would like to see more on what you are reading, and your philosophy videos, as well as of course your travels! Thanks
@ralphd.4857
@ralphd.4857 Жыл бұрын
DAP Dynaflex 230. Have used this stuff for years and it is great. Water cleanup but cures to a flexible seal that seems to last.
@paulwilson3219
@paulwilson3219 Жыл бұрын
Hi Slim. The comments by Silaslong & OKelly regarding aluminum are worth revisiting. Steel can flex indefinitely as long as it's elastic limit isn't exceeded. Aluminum has no such feature. Any flexing aluminum structure will break at some time. The trick is to design high bending moment area's with tapered cross sections so the crack doesn't know where too start. As I remember aluminum isn't normal for this manufacturer this could be the origin of the problem. It should be safe as long as you inspect for cracks daily .The next crack will show where the thin cross section attaches to the thicker repair.
@randomspirit
@randomspirit Жыл бұрын
I've seen several videos on different channels of those frames breaking right in that area. It's a known problem.
@SlimPotatohead
@SlimPotatohead Жыл бұрын
You're generalizing. I am referring to a specific frame for a specific camper. SP
@randomspirit
@randomspirit Жыл бұрын
@@SlimPotatohead Perhaps...but the ones I'm referring to are all on those small fiberglass Scamp-type trailers...
@SlimPotatohead
@SlimPotatohead Жыл бұрын
@randomspirit , that is exactly how facts get distorted. This is NOT a Scamp, and the Scamps have STEEL frames, not aluminum. Please again, do not generalize. Thanks! SP
@jcbuffalogal1328
@jcbuffalogal1328 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for considering the safety of others…Very informative!
@mattrichardson7882
@mattrichardson7882 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video...I need your patience my friend...ty
@jeroenklein4579
@jeroenklein4579 Жыл бұрын
Thank the maker we europeans have galvanized steel frames for our RV/caravans. Alko frames are German made quality products that last forever. Mine is still going strong after 20 years. The stability friction hitch is another piece of gear you might want to check out.
@jmpattillo
@jmpattillo Жыл бұрын
That would be nice! I’m not aware of US manufacturers that galvanize. I’ve seen videos where some people who we’re restoring trailers had the frames galvanized.
@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549
@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 Жыл бұрын
I used to call a creative solution for a problem a "MacGyver" but now when I do something ingenious to solve a complex problem I say I "Potatoheaded" it! Thanks Slim!
@ronleblanc9832
@ronleblanc9832 Жыл бұрын
has been said if you want a continues job get a camper it will keep you busy . have had 3 this last one a 41 ft park model am always doing something to it .ladt job was restring 4 window blinds they wanted 27 + for a kit but i bought 100 yards of string for 20 bucks in nova scotia canada on amazon but it never stops
@todddewell6314
@todddewell6314 Жыл бұрын
Nice job on repairs. Much better than you found it. Should serve you well for years now!!
@WheresJoseToday-im1gr
@WheresJoseToday-im1gr Жыл бұрын
Dr. Slim, as an off road training instructor, let me offer some opinions. Don't want to force my ideas on you, just offer some options… 1. I don’t believe the weight savings of aluminum, nor the corrosion resistance, is worth more than the strength and easy repairability of steel. I know steel rusts, etc. but you can always paint with rust converter, prime with POR15 and a good paint. Aluminum is, in my opinion, too brittle for this application-especially with the stresses of going on those rough roads. 2. When you are ready for another vehicle, I suggest Toyota: a 4Runner, Tacoma, or, best of all, Land Cruiser 60, 80, or 100. You can find used ones for a good price, though not too good on gas. But they are very reliable. 3. First things to do to an off road vehicle are:___A. better tires (your choice of BF Goodrich AT was excellent). Always go with an LT tire. You need the extra protection off road. Other good brands are Falken, Cooper, General… ___B. Suspension upgrade. I think the best for the price is the Old Man EMU from ARB. The nitro charger version is more than excellent for your application. 4. For extra capability off road, at least a rear locker will help in situations like when you were stuck in the mud with the trailer. Without a locker, the tire with traction will not turn, and the one without traction will spin. An ARB Air Locker is an excellent choice. 5. Without the locker, you can sometimes-gently-apply the breaks as you are trying to power out. This sometimes helps the tires get power. 6. Also, rock the steering wheel left to right. This helps the front tires gain some extra traction. NOTE: As the Brits in Land Rovers say: “As slow as possible, as fast as necessary”. 7. You can also use some kind of snow traction setup, as well as MaxTrax. 8. Having jacks is good: you can, if necessary, jack up the vehicle a bit and stack traction aids: like even rocks, under the tire. 9. Cheap clay Cat litter can often work great to help with traction on snow and ice. Check out the article about modifying a Casita trailer for off road on Expedition Portal: Just search for : Off-road Heavy Duty Casita Build I hope this helps you a bit. Thanks for all the videos, I really enjoy your channel! Hope to bump into you sometime once I get my HJ45 finished! I am looking into getting a Casita or Scamp, or similar myself! Regards: Jose
@ShawnPatterson402
@ShawnPatterson402 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your next travel adventure for sure. As always, safe travels......
@tomrobinson2919
@tomrobinson2919 Жыл бұрын
I liked your Subtle Slam of the manufacturer 😊
@debbiezipoli3768
@debbiezipoli3768 Жыл бұрын
Hey, love the change from Out Back to Out 'n About! Good luck with all the repairs.
@Jean-qn4fy
@Jean-qn4fy Жыл бұрын
OMG! This is so familiar! The tiniest leak will cause a big problem and can be so hard to find!
@CoastGord
@CoastGord Жыл бұрын
Sorry about your misfortunes, Slim. The engineers stamp was a smart move on many levels. Glad you found the leak (hope it's the only one). I will say this - you've made it easier to hunt for a small trailer because I've eliminated THAT manufacturer off the list. Cheers from the other coast. (Yes I know there are three) 🤟
@dirtdigger949
@dirtdigger949 Жыл бұрын
When your warranty runs out like his did you are own your own got to remember were you bought it is were have have to return it for repairs they are all the same if they dont have faciltys around the country then you may get a break, if not must take it back were you bought it!
@ScubaSteveCanada
@ScubaSteveCanada Жыл бұрын
Be wary of that brand of trailer frame ... other trailers may use it too.
@CoastGord
@CoastGord Жыл бұрын
I've worked amongst qualified trades...THAT would have never left the yard.@@ScubaSteveCanada
@garygower702
@garygower702 Жыл бұрын
Also check the windows and door gaskets and all the little exterior doors around, including de fasteners and rivets.
@MargueriteL-y5i
@MargueriteL-y5i Жыл бұрын
would Flex seal work??? I am glad you found the Problems with the leaks and also got the frame fixed!!! I Love your Videos --- Margie ----from -----Florida-----
@dizzle6709
@dizzle6709 Жыл бұрын
I had to get my computer module replaced in my Honda($1800us) and the guy at the dealership didn’t put the air conditioning drain hose into the hole outside the car…at first I thought a water bottle had spilled…then I thought maybe the door is leaking. After a week I pull back the carpet and see that my air conditioning had been pouring water into the floor of my car. It was bad. I ran a power cord to the car and used a box fan in my car every night for a week or so and it dried it out pretty good.
@diann546
@diann546 Жыл бұрын
Leaks can also come from door seals. Even if you condition the rubber every six months, like instructed, especially in a blowing wind. I would check that, if the flood returns.
@lynbarnel
@lynbarnel Жыл бұрын
FYI Slim, should use self-leveling sealant on the roof, anti sagging on vertical surfaces. Yours is the second little egg type trailer I've seen with a broken frame in nearly the same spot. The other one was a 20+ year old steal frame with some rust. I was surprised your nearly new alluminum frame failed as well. Strange coincidence for sure. Hope the welds hold up for you!
@jsmith3964
@jsmith3964 Жыл бұрын
slim i know it was for batter millage and a lighter load , but the time iseen your video going toward the north pole area and roads were gravel and not made well ,i was figureing furture issues. what i would suggest is steel where its breaking and alumin where it not that way you get both light and strong,,if i was ever going to buy a camper i would go light also, keep em reeling..not every video but 8 out of 10 i watch and always interesting to see.
@craigl7773
@craigl7773 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2004, almost identical to yours and I am in Calgary. I reached to the manufacturer via email and phone the past three summers looking to buy parts and get a quote for some maintenance / repair work. I have never gotten a response.
@CJJPstepintotheblue
@CJJPstepintotheblue Жыл бұрын
The engineer was being very "safe" throughout both report's. I'm much like yourself and I am always cautious! To appease my mind I'd do a welding course also to better understand these processes. I drive myself insane 😂
@n8rlvr876
@n8rlvr876 Жыл бұрын
In my experience those ceiling vent covers can just lift right up with the right wind in a good storm, and then the rain gets in right through the fan.
@wildeone1636
@wildeone1636 Жыл бұрын
Love the new driveway.
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