Finally Doing My First Surface Run!! | Hades II

[@C__NguyenTruongHongHai]

"Do we need to bathe?" typical gamer moment.

[@nickwilliamson9115]

the fact that eris increases her damage using the same mechanic we use with her aspect in the original hades is so good

[@mrtrumpeter7113]

Retro: "How could they wait so long to give me a whole goddess?!" Demeter in Hades 1: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@mugiwarat]

Bro Charon's ship is Dripped out of its damn mind

[@MetalMockingjay]

So that's what he uses all the gold for.

[@StonedtotheBones13]

Dude's got the coin 🤷‍♀If you look beyond the exit, you can actually see literal piles of money and stuff

[@Giguv05]

Love all the evil eye designs on Polyphemus! Surprised I haven't seen the two combined before, this is such a cool idea. Supergiant have done such a great job at making a fusion of various modern influences with Mediterranean inspirations in their character design. It feels so fresh in a genre of adapting the Greek mythos despite it being one with countless other great works of art.

[@HarrisonHeiser]

Nightcaps aren't used for anything other than selling for bones btw so you can feel free to sell those. Same with the fish once you get some of those.

[@Mich1.]

Cap

[@LBC3246]

S-Dust is in the game currently, you'll be getting access to it within a few underworld runs.

[@ManlyPicnics]

The game has finally opened up. Crazy that all this is in the game and it's only EA. Already larger than the first game, by quite a margin. Although with the Fear system, I do hope there is an equivalent of Extreme Measures. Alt versions of these already amazing bosses would be godly.

[@mike6605]

The chaos boon is an excellent first or second boon because the chaos buff is permanent after you take it off and the high rarity ones are amazing.

[@yadamspiezer]

Nice. Didn't know that. The extra hammer lasts a set number of encounters from that keepsake too.

[@silgado106]

This and Charon keepsake (+200 gold) are my favorite ones to start with and then quickly remove after first boss!

[@loganswalk8621]

Ok I have two ideas for who will be the final boss of the surface route 1. Is a brainwashed Zagreus I can even see each fight has him using a different weapon(except the rail) and 2. Is Typhon one of the biggest and deadliest monsters in Greek mythology.

[@blackpaladin225]

The surface locations seem very interesting. They really went all out.

[@michaelkawamura9296]

To give you a little more info on born gain, most magick regen in this game is based on fulfilling x condition (stand in cast, sacrifice % hp, hit enemies and get bubbles, etc…) to get y magick/sec. Hera’s magick gain will kick in once you use your entire magick pool. Say in an encounter you have 140 magick, once you use all your magick it will prime X amount every time (let’s say X = 10) and your new pool will be 140-X (or 130 in this case). You can continue to prime magick but your pool will continue to diminish (140, 130, 120, 110, 100, etc…). What’s so great is that it will reset every encounter, so it effectively makes you have infinite magick

[@Giguv05]

This sounds like it could get troublesome in a bossfight. Am I missing something?

[@michaelkawamura9296]

@@Giguv05 It’s not really a problem because 1. You can easily expand your magick pool 2. Priming 10 magick is the extreme (common level 1), I’ve had a few runs where it goes down to priming 1 magick but on average I’ve primed 6 3. If you’re unable to defeat a boss utilizing a magick pool that’s effectively 1.5k+ (on the low end), you might have a problem with your build and not your magick gain

[@DaemonInWhite]

Very excited to see how Poseidon reacts after that Polyphemus fight - and very excited to see what happens if we fight him with a Poseidon boon

[@utlukka950]

Hera literally said in her introduction that she only agreed to help if Melinoe proved herself.

[@akiipy22222]

Bruh you can't expect youtubers to pay attention to anything.

[@Giguv05]

"Hera: she alone has the capacity to keep the other gods in check" Well, maybe _most_ of the other gods, but definitely not Zeus judging by the sheer amount of myths about his extramarital affairs :D

[@StonedtotheBones13]

The fact that she's the goddess of marriage makes it so much worse. Def throwing shade with the vows thing lmao

[@Justicetom21]

I'm pretty sure you cottoned on to it, but from what I can tell, the design philosophy behind uppies is that it is more of a Draft-Type Run where the run itself IS harder, but you get to hand-pick your build a lot more. Getting 6 guaranteed major finds + a few random small ones before the first boss lets you pick and choose a lot more easily. I do think it's harder, definitely (just beat my first 32 fear surface run yesterday and Oh Boy) but it's a really fun alternate run Anyway, I died like 6 times to Charybdis, and did not realise that it was just a miniboss until my final successful attempt, because of how much I was struggling with it, so your confused "That was really easy?" made the gamer in me shrivel up and die a little bit. I will say, though: the Hermes 'ranged shots move slower' boon is absolutely incredible in uppies runs. All the bosses and Charybdis have a ton of ranged shots that hit like trucks. And, similarly, I don't even know how many times I've died to Eris.

[@phunguyenquang1342]

born gain is the most broken mana regen in the game

[@Retromation]

does it continuously cap your mana regen every time it refills? like do you eventually end with 0 max mana? or is it a one time thing?

[@3dtoni]

The Prime resets after every encounter. Prime stacks in the same room but ive rarely primed it more than twice. Only a Chaos boon can mess it up. ​@Retromation

[@zFrizzi]

​​@@Retromation I'm pretty sure it stacks every time you run out of mana, but it resets after every room so it doesn't become a problem in the long run

[@jingwei558]

​@@RetromationIt primes 10 magick each refill, but the priming disappears each encounter and will prime once you refill again. You can make it prime negative with pom upgrades. It's basically infinite magick.

[@Retromation]

Ehhhh, as good as it sounds I am not sure I'd want the possibility to be completely manaless at the end of the final boss, which is frankly the only part of a run that concerns me.

[@StalxD]

Charybdis in mythos is a sibling of scylla

[@Giguv05]

Ngl I was kinda hoping they would give it a rock/metal spin as well

[@3dtoni]

FYI Aspect of Pan with Aphrodite Special Boon is absolutely broken... especially Duo of Apollo is disgusting....like I felt bad for Chronos 😅

[@patricker113]

Fun Mythology Fact! Charybdis was a Daughter of Poseidon that got cursed into a monster by Zeus out of pure jealousy, because she was so successful at expanding her father's kingdom. ^^

[@patricker113]

AKA she helped Poseidon flood so many places and sunk islands, that Zeus was like "fuck you niece" and turned her into a monster.

[@Gle3k]

I’ve struggled to beat Eris so much and he just made her look like a joke.

[@Giguv05]

It's because of all the accumulated disdain Reto had after losing because of her "boon" during his first few runs :D

[@lucasenraraujo]

"AoE is not good for bosses" Immediately followed by a boss with multiple body segments getting wrecked by the Hera binding boon and AoE attacks hahaha. The irony worked in your favor this time.

[@lucasenraraujo]

Also, as soon as I saw the Golden Apple icon in the boss room I knew it! I just wish her fight was a bit more chaotic and less big numbers (although doubling power every time is interesting hahaha)

[@smacc3968]

not quite doubling but i getchu

[@CalamitasCalliope]

Despite the iffy Eris system, it does make finally fighting her very satisfying

[@benjaminfrost2780]

As examples of your skill at these games vs the average players. You smoked Nemesis first time and many if not most lose to her half the time or more. You thought Charybdis was too easy to be a full on boss but yet a sizeable amount don't beat it their first run and a decent amount beat it with having a hard time their first time. Massive majority don't get past Eris their first time. Appreciate your own skill Reto ;-). I appreciate your videos for sure :)

[@ezze_pz]

The boons that slow down projectiles make the Charybdis fight really easy since the explody bombs that it shoots out dont reach the stage and they dont split into the smaller bombs 🤔 That was my experience at least

[@DSi381]

If Zagreus were free, he would probably beg Melinoe for that curse cure incantation

[@Linkbond]

Indeed

[@CalamitasCalliope]

Borne Gain is literally busted. I've only ever completely run out of mana in boss fights after having no mana upgrades and a low quality copy of the boon. It scales exponentially with poms, rarity, and mana upgrades. It's probably the only boon that I'm confident in saying will be nerfed in the future

[@Endocrom]

I was kind of hoping the surface would be modern day and with Chronos opening up the underworld it would be the aftermath of an apocalypse. Who knows, maybe the exit you come out of is in an abandoned village in Greece and Dawn of the Dead is happening just outside your path.

[@mica4977]

Wonder if it's random whether those extra rooms open or if it's a rule set like "beat the room in X mins/secs"

[@olicatthethird741]

I really hope retro realizes how overpowered born gain is, if you're spending over 5000 mana in a boss fight you have bigger problems in your build lol

[@ieasy12]

8:12 Don't think you skipped one. From what I've seen it goes from 0 to 4 extra rooms in them, based on RNG.

[@akiipy22222]

Equivalent of two zones? IT WAS TWO ZONES?! Am I taking crazy pills?!

[@flameheart7666]

"I got a rock?" XD

[@Linkbond]

I swear Eris is working for Chronos. She hampers you for a fair amount of runs(unless you are Reto) and also tries to kill you on the surface as well(better question is how the heck she is able to be up there in the first place). I am expecting a betrayel from her, not going to lie.

[@TheLongWind]

Born Gain is fantastic.

[@millieplaint4087]

Any chance you'd go back and do a couple runs in the of Hades? Just to kinda test out how different they feel in terms of game play?

[@matt-thorn]

Quite unfair how Scylla gets to be a boss, and Chharybdis is only a miniboss.

[@irishkracken3281]

For the surface with the pylons, would you be able to leave certain encounters without destroying the pylons and be able to then seek out all the rewards? Or does the game force you to destroy them before leaving the encounters?

[@karimabenhammou1753]

Been waiting for mommy hera since the first hades

[@hazel7296]

It took me 7 tries to bet Eris, I am truly bad

[@romo141]

The axe omega attack with the slow down time arcana makes everything simple.

[@beatrizherculanodeoliveira7935]

Reto is to good on this game, don't use him as a reference of normal ahahushshshs

[@xelphiem]

A little behind, but still enjoying the series so far

[@claytonharting9899]

Wait is Hera’s status effect *marriage*??

[@ieasy12]

10:30 Not all of them seem to have pylons, no. Though, whether that's a good or bad thing depends on the run.

[@CalamitasCalliope]

No they all have pylons.