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[@justinsden]

I NEVER knew that anyone was out there reacting to my content, and all of a sudden I come across a video on my homepage for the Granolah Arc. 😂 Wow, thanks so much for this. I’ll be watching your other content as well. Not sure if you’re burnt out on Superhero, but If you’re interested, (shameless plug) I got a video for that too. Keep up the grind! 💯 Also, thanks to everyone else that tuned into the video!

[@TSO_Sage]

Ofc my brotha! And superhero? WE WILL BE THERE 🫡‼️

[@justinsden]

@@TSO_Sage🫡🫡🫡

[@cosmicstudio1]

​@@TSO_SageYessir

[@XanielMarino]

@@TSO_Sage definitely watch it sage they add details that the movie didn’t have time to include and they’re WORTH IT

[@djnight2721]

Another infinity stone collected

[@kinglouie9958]

I love how this arc emphasizes that unearned power isn’t reliable long term

[@harundoener]

Its funny how it is emphasised with almost all enemies goku faces. It helps that its in contrast with him.

[@sc-1918]

Sadly the arc right after erase everything they learned from that arc.

[@XanielMarino]

⁠@@sc-1918 Yeah i get it cause Gohan’s felt unearned in the movie but I genuinely think they’re setting up broly to be the answer to “What if someone with Gohan’s potential took training seriously” to show the difference between earned and unearned power. I ain’t gonna spoil why i think that in the comments just in case but it’ll make more sense when he goes over the Super Hero arc

[@marche800]

Gas and Granola were basically using performance enhancing drugs

[@jantheking7028]

@@sc-1918 Not really. Gohan earned his power. It only feels unearned to people who dont understand how his power boosts have historically worked throughout the series.

[@ChocoExplosion]

I’m more than sure the wish bardock made was meant to help goku and Raditz survive planet vegeta’s destruction. Because let’s be honest raditz did NOT thrive 💀🙏🏾

[@IIIISai]

Hoed him 💀

[@jdudbdjxb7687]

He pretty much got bullied by Vegeta and then clapped by people weaker than him I still don't know what Tori was thinking when he wrote that, unless he's trying to bring back Raditz somehow

[@lavenderpsycho]

That's kinda better I guess ngl I did not like this wish at all my least favorite part

[@michealbanksjr.3630]

@@jdudbdjxb7687raditz is never coming back

[@omarpro1495]

He "Thrived" the word just means that they'll grow up well and both of them did and both of them died together

[@Salt-UNDER_LINE]

Bardock: "I wish for my sons to thrive." Piccolo: "Bet."

[@hussainalaiwi9270]

It's funnier because it also killed goku

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

​@@hussainalaiwi9270 and he got stronger because of it! I call that thriving.

[@elgooodnachesiui4055]

Hasta que crezcan, crecieron y murieron xd

[@diveblock2058]

It's more in terms of goku met grandpa gohan because of the wish and nothing else

[@PokemonProfessorNebula]

I always bring this up too, think of this. Friezas three months of training was just him torturing a soldier, now he spent 10 years alone in a chamber of pure white where the temperature fluctuates from near zero to hundreds of degrees, the gravity gets stronger the deeper you go, and any normal person would go insane alone in that chamber. He got 10 years of excruciatingly hard training to better his body, mind, and spirit.

[@castform7]

I honestly don't know how they can kill Frieza at this point when he spent all this time doing actual intensive training considering the fact he went from being probably under Android 19 to the level of gods in a fraction of it. I'm pretty sure even Gogeta or Vegito get boxed by him in Black form.

[@PotarasMight]

​@@castform7Yeah I don't see how people would think Gogeta would stand a chance when Frieza probably trained for Brolys monstrous growth, and him seeing gogeta in action made him make sure he was EXTRA prepared for everything the Saiyans have We need to throw all of them in a time chamber for 10 years just to even reach anything close to him

[@IIIISai]

How does the time chamber work, his body aged 10 years but mind proccessed 10 days? Or was he literally physically isolated for 10 straight years, because if thats the case thats completely unrealistic for freiza to behave normal after that much isolation and bordom

[@calebokoro.]

@@IIIISaiFrieza will literally in hell for longer period of time and was being mentally tortured, and came back just fine, this is totally different he chose to be in the chamber for 10 years, and frezia isnt a social person anyways he doesn’t need company.

[@IIIISai]

@@calebokoro. oh for sure I agree, but psychology wise a person cant be in those circumstances and come out the same, hell for example was late toriyama not knowing how the constant headache would have made frieza lose his mind again good point with but it just reminds me him coming unaffected wasnt realistic but tbf only vegeta has realistic mental struggles

[@CriticalyDumb]

"who's that" bro ive read this arc like 3 times and I never noticed that level of foreshadowing😂

[@HKambinda]

Timestamp?

[@SACKBOY123432]

​@@HKambinda He's talking about when the Oracle fish notices Gas but doesn't say that he is the universe strongest, hinting at someone stronger such as Frieza

[@demontiming3234]

I picked up on it the first time but nobody else was saying anything about it so I thought I might be mistaken but there were many hints to Freiza. The entire battle we knew Freiza was coming, and not only that but the Oracle didn’t recognize either Gas or Granolah thus they weren’t who he was talking about

[@cryotheamayzo5445]

A huge reason why the Granolah Saga was received relatively poorly was because it was basically constant fighting with monthly chapters, and it took around 2 years for the saga to finish (24 chapters, 1 chapter per month) so it often felt like nothing was changing month to month and characters were just endlessly powering up. And then of course Toei Bardock fans being pissy over Canon Bardock. When you read the entire saga in one go it flows much more nicely. It makes me envious of anime-only fans because when (If) the DBS anime returns they'll have a much nicer first time experience with animated fights, music and weekly episodes.

[@TSO_Sage]

aww man it was bardock fans !?

[@soraceant]

@TSO_Sage not that much really although I do agree that father of goku burdock is cooler than minus bardock.

[@dbstop9194]

Z Bardock was in the manga so he is canon, the problem with dbs it´s that it keeps retconning Dragon ball Z every year.

[@IIIISai]

Lol good points

[@thelettucebarrel7784]

@@dbstop9194Doesn’t matter if Z Bardock was in the manga because he’s been retconned for *years* now. And they made him into a better character but we’ll ignore that for now.

[@xard2803]

This reaction is making me appreciate this saga more. I'm glad to finally see someone actually be cool with the Bardock stuff and gas up Frieza's potential.

[@SageOfLimitlessHands]

So dumb

[@feested3402]

Why would people whine about Bardock appearing here? He's true to his character and it doesn't damage the canon story in any way. Him being able to take Gas has the very simple explanation that Gas was much weaker 50 years prior to him fighting Goku, Vegeta and Granolah which makes total sense. Goku recognizing Bardock's sentence? Absolute peak. No idea how you can hate on this

[@SageOfLimitlessHands]

@feested3402 Yes it does. Bardock didn't care about Goku and Raditz like that, you didn't even see him with Gine during the original story. He wasn't so sentimental, and takes away from the race which gave him visions of frieza's betrayal but having Elec and Gas tell him.

[@user-gk6nt5gi5n]

Because they decided to switch up and make him some good guy instead of the ruthless saiyan that he was. Just copying superman even more ​@@feested3402

[@forbiddenwithin]

@@SageOfLimitlessHandsBy original you mean the father of goku movie? which is non cannon like most dbz movies? His story was bound to change like broly being introduced into dbs

[@VivaLaVerse]

It's funny how Ultra Ego is basically just the Zenkai Boost as a transformation

[@stanleech666]

that's basically what Super Saiyan Rose is lol.

[@alicepbg2042]

zenkai boost but you don't need to almost die and the boost is not permanent. it's actually pretty clever.

[@IIIISai]

Zenkais stopped working since buu saga

[@VivaLaVerse]

@@IIIISai And?

[@VivaLaVerse]

@@stanleech666 Rose is just blue recolored

[@ForeveraBoss117]

Bardock losing one of his shoulder pads making half his armor look more like his original concept art design is peak

[@Da.swaggermaista]

Bardock: i wish for my sons to thrive Raditz: *dies by goku holding him and leaving a window for picolo to kill him* Goku: *dies by heart virus* Meanwhile daddy trunks: nah, id create another timeline

[@Thing_of_somes]

Maybe it only allowed the luck for goku and raditz to escape their ships. I mean goku did thrive on earth and raditz did thrive with vegeta and nappa.

[@Echo-nn8dt]

@@Thing_of_somesidk why people see “thrive” and go straight to thinking it means that they won’t/can’t die because of the wish. Plenty people irl thrive but when it’s their time to go it’s their time to go.

[@Thing_of_somes]

@@Echo-nn8dt well i mean raditz and goku wouldn’t be able to thrive if they died there.

[@Echo-nn8dt]

@@Thing_of_somes I know

[@Echo-nn8dt]

@cameronl1859 thriving ≠ being mr.popular either. He survived, lived his life accordingly, probably even could’ve been seen as pretty successful for a saiyan (especially considering he’s one of the 1% to even survive) and fucked up soon as he landed on earth. I can’t say he didn’t thrive just because he got picked on by his superiors and died at the hands of his brother/piccolo, because Goku died at the same time BUT Goku made friends and they had their own dragon balls to make a completely separate wish to bring Goku back eventually. It just seemed to be Raditz getting in his own way at that point.

[@s3studios597]

My favorite part about this arc is honestly just the idea of having the antagonists wish to be the strongest. Just feels like such an obvious thing for the bad guys to do, yet it's never happened until now.

[@thedirkiestdigg4050]

It makes it even better that it's done with a new, monkey's paw like dragon too

[@user-gk6nt5gi5n]

I hate ot tbh just makes it seem unearned and the facy that it happens twice is crazy

[@tiltedxfn3635]

@@user-gk6nt5gi5n They are bad guys lol, why would they care about it being unearned? It would take so long to train to get that far, it wouldnt make sense.

[@user-gk6nt5gi5n]

@@tiltedxfn3635 the fact that they can just wish to be stronger than anyone makes it hollow. Cell had to plot and be cunning to get his power. While frieza was an impossible obstacle that had to be over come. While this is just bs using convenient dragon balls with new rules that contradict the dragon not being able to do things stronger than its maker Just seems hollow then they decide to give gas a backstop to explain his strength like that even matters

[@s3studios597]

@@user-gk6nt5gi5n Yeah, that's the point. It's supposed to be unearned.

[@alexsmith3598]

Goku near the end really said "Fuck feelings? Nah. Return to monke."

[@CodeOhtsutsuki]

27:00 Granolah’s wish basically just made it so he’d have as much strength as he would if he trained his entire life under the condition that he has three years to live

[@soraceant]

Not just that but if he also trained with multiple species techniques.

[@user-gk6nt5gi5n]

Yhhhhhh i call bs

[@NovaViper-x7m]

Nah that was just to strengthen his base, he was also give mastery over op techniques.

[@HabitualThinker]

@@user-gk6nt5gi5nbro it’s a wish granting dragon how is that BS

[@user-gk6nt5gi5n]

@@HabitualThinker wishing to be the strongest os a micky ass power up use ur brain

[@schhffh4682]

2 hours long bro💀 ima watch it tho since you’re lowkey underrated

[@IIIISai]

Fr lmao

[@_WiZ420]

Fr💀

[@devaughnfranklin6683]

I started the other day just finished it today 😂 had to watch it in parts

[@demontiming3234]

Most people didn’t catch the hint to Black Frieza. The entire arc was based around Frieza so we knew he would come into play at some point. But then also the Oracle fish asked Whis, who Gas was hinting that he is not who he saw in his vision of the universe’s strongest

[@Mr.ArtCulture635]

IMO this is the second best arc in super because the different paths Goku and Vageta. Also I enjoyed how Vegeta saw himself in Granolah. I also enjoyed how we got to see Goku’s past

[@IIIISai]

Im a gokutard but goku stole vegetas spotlight this arc, kinda unsatisfying

[@_WiZ420]

@@IIIISaiNot really. He had TUI yes, but no one really won this except Freeza 😂😂

[@IIIISai]

@@_WiZ420 lmaoo

[@GregSmithIII]

@@IIIISai That always happens. It's Vegeta bro. This been happening since Vegeta came into the series lol

[@XenoVibezz]

@@IIIISai nah he didnt he even legit vegeta do his thing multiple times didnt argue or nothing

[@SortofFriendlySM]

After watching you react to the Moro arc I’ve been waiting for this. Cell is my favorite villain, because he’s sick asf, his over confidence that he backed up till SSJ2 Gohan was legendary. And I can also voice Perfect Cell, so there’s a bias 😂

[@ImLactic]

Nbs 😂

[@IIIISai]

Frieza for me

[@IIIISai]

I wanna see a sample

[@GavrielRosario]

should've watch carthu dojo's video not this random guy

[@randomname5646]

Cell also has like the 2nd most iconic theme after vegetas

[@collinleivas9605]

The fact that the wish for Gas to become the strongest in the unvierse kept taking years of hos life to maintain that title as the strongest is insane, especially considering how when he tried to age and surpass Frieza he simply died because Frieza was too far ahead of him.

[@indrainspace2601]

Granola and Vegeta fighting got that Baby Kia music playing in the background. Two of the strongest crash outs in the universe going at it

[@ImResurrection]

Gohan is top 3 crash out say I’m lying

[@commonviewer2488]

We never found out what Elec _specifically_ wished for, but I think Sage was right on the money about the "will always be the strongest" part, and the wish kept going until Gas didn't have any more of his lifespan left to burn through.

[@feested3402]

This arc was peak. Goku Black's arc was previously my favorite but now whenever this arc gets animated it might just take that spot.

[@jonathanharris6214]

You right bro, Black was supposed to be the best arc not only in Super but all of Dragon Ball. And then they rushed things… and super Saiyan Rage… and Trunks Spirit Sword… and Zamasu being kinda dumb… and then the Zeno thing… at least this whole arc flows so smoothly when you see it all go in one go even if it is kind of hype beast

[@cosmicspider9132]

​@@jonathanharris6214yeah like dude we all would love if they didn't make zeno that dumb and make him erase the future timeline where they could only make him erased zamasu or we would love for future trunks and future mai to stay in the preset timeline not go to a different one where they are two future trunks two future mai like what is like they made this as a excuse not to have him in the main timeline

[@marche800]

You know what I need. A conversation between Bardock and Grandpa Gohan.

[@Oscar-b5b4x]

In my head canon I would say raditz WAS thriving in his own way, but he met up with Goku the OTHER guy that got wished to thrive as well. Here’s the thing they both got fucked up when they met each other, but Goku got the help he needed and raditz didn’t. So in a sense bardocks wish makes sense at least to me

[@15mcollins]

Yeah they both literally died together. Goku just got wished back to life

[@Sorandon-jz2tx]

An underrated arc. People think it's the worst thing ever when you have Copy Vegeta(tbf nobody considers this an arc really), U6 vs U7 where a lot of the early fights are just boring, and started the trend of Buu being asleep. Which the Moro actually kinda fixed a bit. Probably the second best or third best arc overall in super. In the entire series, it's a pretty alright arc. Plus the setup for the future is crazy ngl with how the arc ends. As for Granolah as a character, cool ass design imo, and pretty good thematics. I'll say this the big gripe people have with this arc is the wish that happened in the past, people assume it made Goku destined for greatness. When Goku still had to do all he did, all the wish is give Goku a chance for greatness. And the same applies to Raditz, the wish is basically implied to be the reason they "survive" Plantet Vegeta's explosion. Also people saying Ultra Ego didn't win it's first fight, neither did UI(in the anime). Back to Granolah, the dude is basically meant to represent Vegeta's past, and as for why he still beats Vegeta narratively in their first fight is because of Vegeta and Goku still needing one more push, which they later get in the arc. As for Gas, the dude is pretty ight. Nothing inoffensive when literally bro had to become bones to still keep up. Meaning even without the interference at the end, Goku and Vegeta woukd gain enough strength to fully surpass if the fight kept going. Sorry for the holy yap.

[@IIIISai]

Good assessment, tho the main issues with the arc is well.. Goku as usual is a regressed child of a man he was in Z, dialogue and immature round design showcase this, his presence is not the same as buu saga goku simply being there, blank state mind, but still hes enjoyable because hes goku Granola sacrficing his years and doing everything just to spare gas elec last minute was horrible writing Vegeta was amazing this arc although true ui kinda stole the show but vegeta set up so much for his character here Frieza not only spoiled his way of training which was dumb, he sparred the two, so if in a future arc freiza dies this moment is extremely cringy In super standards this is the closest to S tier we will get unless you count TOP, every arc in the manga flows better and the dialogue is way better than the anime and scaling, i do think the manga is good but we cant ignore baby face goku, I do think this arc is above moro personally, goku giving a senzu and contradicting his character and needing last minute help was not it I yapped more than you sheesh

[@hassentrh2118]

the people that "assume goku is destined for greatness" just use the wish to hate on super cuz the best the wish could of done for him is get him to a power level of 300 and then die heck there's a better argument for raditz to be "destined for greatness" cuz he got to a power level of 1500 before he died see it doesn't make sense

[@i_like_videogames9517]

@@hassentrh2118 Yeah, but Goku also came back from the dead. Multiple times. Whose to say Raditz won’t too? I feel like that was foreshadowing.

[@hassentrh2118]

@@i_like_videogames9517 raditz would never come back cuz he's weak af the only way to bring him back is to wish him back and then put him in the time chamber for 50 years to train and even then he won't even come close to goku and vegeta's powers see even the only way doesn't make sense

[@i_like_videogames9517]

@@hassentrh2118 Well, people can train in Hell, right? Frieza did. So, Raditz could too.

[@senko_12]

57:30 granola was like "oh shi* so u ain't evil after all, but idc it's personal now"

[@jantheking7028]

This was one of my favorite arcs for sure. Great character designs for the new characters, nice job connecting old storylines to the present, and Toyotarou's art and fight choreography improved even more from the Moro arc!

[@gentlepeeps3351]

Honestly this and Moro are my favourite dbs and honestly db arcs outside of z and og db. Anyone who doesn’t like them I think is tripping these are just fire

[@joeysev0792]

It was so cool how the oracle fish mentioned Frieza being the Universe strongest at the start of the arc and asked who Gas was when the fish saw him

[@kaienglish271]

An interesting thing about UE is that Vegeta doesn’t exactly have to get hit to get stronger. It’s a mindset transformation the higher his battle soul or excitement gets the stronger he will get. Taking damage just gets him more fired up.

[@rifarira9160]

This, people mixed it up with him have to be hit first to get the boost. I guess this mean the perfected version of UE would allow Vegeta to constantly boost his power without the need to get fired up first.

[@Intr0vertical]

My fav part of this arc is that the Heeters got braids 🙏🏿🙏🏿 we came a long way from commander black lmao

[@IIIISai]

Lmao u funny as hell brother

[@LoopyDreamz775]

We got black aliens now? That’s fire ✌🏾

[@robbiedontmiss]

And then in the Superhero arc, we got a brother with a fade🙏

[@LoopyDreamz775]

@@robbiedontmiss Facts, and a black girl too (potentially gotens future Girl)

[@somsakknownguy1174]

@@LoopyDreamz775 need her to get saiyaned ong

[@pintobean6702]

The crazy thing about this is in guides the gain frieza got from his android saga to his ROF appearance was so great it was compared to frieza getting "Infinitely stronger" Imagine 10 years opposed to the few months he did before 💀 To make it even more crazy narratively it's implied he could be stronger than vegito/gogeta

[@SACKBOY123432]

Just how are they going to explain Beerus being stronger than Black Frieza? They can't move that goal post forever... Makes me laugh when people thought Goku and Hit could take out Champa in the Universe 6 arc just because they startled him lol. I dont even think Black Frieza could take Champa despite him being weaker than Beerus 😅

[@hassentrh2118]

he definetly is stronger than gogeta/vegito it would be stupid of him to witness gogeta's greatness and not make sure to surpass him

[@Crazyee8]

@@SACKBOY123432beerus is a god of destruction, trained by an angel for eons? You have no idea

[@feested3402]

I'm not sure why people hype Black Frieza so much. It's true that he's stronger than everyone there since he killed Gas but Gas was pretty much half dead (still the strongest there) and had just received an emotional shock (him finding out his brother pretty much sentenced him to death just to make him stronger) and after that Frieza knocked out Goku and Vegeta who were just being beaten to a pulp by Gas. Sure he's stronger but saying he'd beat a hypothetical Gogeta/Vegito in MUI or Ultra Ego? Please.

[@pintobean6702]

@@feested3402 Goku and vegeta had gotten a full heal when frieza showed up, he blitzed and one shot a full HP goku and vegeta in their strongest states It's also been confirmed that beerus is on the edge of reaching the level of a destroyer. Don't forget how much stronger he got from his cyborg self in Z to becoming strong enough to destroy a macrocosm in 4-6 months I can't remember which it was 10 years in a time chamber is absurb Also even though gas was half dead he was physically stronger due to the conditions of the wish so he wasn't weak by any means

[@XVERLXRD420]

Fuck a crashout, Granola is a whole 13 car pile-up in the middle of the interstate, NO SURVIVORS.

[@jg5004]

The fact that this man said, “dis ninja is on crack” makes you one of the GOATs already.

[@pagawn1640]

The funny thing with Granolah is, it seems like the reason he’s so stubborn is that he must have been planning this revenge for the last 40 years. When you’ve been thinking about doing something for 40 years, it’s very hard to convince them not to do it 😂

[@zy1an]

feel like this arc gets really mixed reception but i liked it

[@The_Blue_Otaku]

I see the Granolah Arc the same way as Dragon Ball GT, It's full of good ideas and concepts but the whole thing is executed somewhat poorly.

[@IIIISai]

@@The_Blue_Otaku i think it was good, just odd writing for granolahs closure, what wasnt executed well, mind you im critical of super but this was a hit

[@TheActionTourist]

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[@manipulatortrash]

@@IIIISai pretty much the best way to evaluate super, and GT too. Take whats nice about and criticise anything bad about it, its the best way to enjoy it.

[@jantheking7028]

The Granolah arc was straight HEAT. The people who didn't like it was mostly because they weren't fans of the wishing of the power thing. Narratively, this was the best DB arc since the andriod saga imo.

[@bali-4]

Bardock’s comeback is top tier

[@eldinovm8077]

bardock flashback = sage staring in awe and listening intently, no commentary just pure adoration

[@lucalex4271]

I rarely like reaction channels, but I gotta say my man, your personality is exhuberant and on point, your comedic timing and commentary are top notch. I would not have cared about Super manga if I didn't have someone to react to it with me who is more interested in it than I am, so thank you and subbed. Supporting this king now.

[@TheBabyTort]

The glazing

[@Doritochi]

I like the split in transformations. Goku is mastering Ultra Instinct pushing martial arts to the limit, while Vegeta's Ultra Ego pushes the standard attributes of being a Saiyan to the limit.

[@thefitnessgrampacertestisa8483]

That teleporting fight between goku and gas is one of my favorite fights i’ve ever seen

[@Seanny313]

Got something to watch when I get off work, good looks Sage!!🙏🏾

[@thefitnessgrampacertestisa8483]

1:44:00 this is canonically why bardock sent goku off which means gas is the reason for all of dragon ball happening

[@hankitypanky2130]

Beerus saying that in order to grow stronger is that vegeta has to forget all else and focus on destruction which reminded me of toppo during the tournament of power when he turns into his destruction mode he starts saying that justice is no longer his drive if it can’t save his universe he says he’s disregarded all else and only focus on destruction no matter the price

[@alatusedits]

That's why I didn't like it

[@ghosttemplar6989]

The best part of this arch was Goku looking at Bardock through the scouter and smiling literally almost made me cry. A namekian saved Baradock and now Piccolo saves the Earth.

[@SACKBOY123432]

Yeah I got goosebumps when he recalled his past

[@jdcreator4477]

Gas was always being gassed up in the arc only to be hot air. 💨

[@maskedrecruit4571]

There are a couple things I really enjoy about this arc in regards to the fights. One: I love that Toyotaro is starting to include unique abilities to where every fight isn't just "who hits harder." Granolah being extremely precise and tactical with his attacks feels like what Hit was supposed to be, and Gas's ki constructs are really cool to see in action. Allowing weapons to have some relevance in fights should make combat feel alot more dynamic and less same-y in the future. Two: Toyotaro actually let people that aren't Goku or Vegeta have a sick fight. Granolah got a huge section of the fight dedicated to just him and Gas which was a huge breath of fresh air in the series that had been the Goku show for so long. Technically, Granolah also got the kind of "finishing attack" on Gas. He didn't actually kill him, but realistically that was the end of the fight/the most important attack. After that point, it was shifting into payoff for the whole rapidly aging thing as well as setup for freeza. It just felt so good to see what felt like the series becoming more free. It's not just an exchange of fists and beam struggles anymore. This started as far back as the Goku Black arc in the manga and arguably a bit in the TOP in the anime. It's just coming to a head in the Granolah arc.

[@Omega-AlexGt]

How can it be that I like this arc even more after rewatching

[@theosophical5197]

THIS ARC NEEDS TO BE ANIMATED

[@CodeOhtsutsuki]

13:50 the Cerealian red eye is closer to the Byakugan than the Sharingan

[@Averrrrrnuee]

Granolah vs Gas is just a battle with Max Stats turned on💀

[@MentaAzul]

I wanna see that animated

[@UriahandDad]

You may have the best reactions on this platform and it so underrated idk if you’ll see this on such a old vid but you the man!!!

[@ray0064]

Anybody else notice how gas and his siblings look like Bojack and his minions?

[@7evenseas975]

Frieza legit scares me, I dont feel fear from characters in fiction but he shook me and made me bug eyed

[@DS123-gb8tf]

Vegeta is pretty booksmart not just battle iq he figured out the deception and backstory very quickly, he just decided to crash out with grabolah 😂until gas came

[@marzelbell8175]

“Do yall have dragon balls im not trying to be racists “ is crazy work 😂😂😂

[@castform7]

I do appreciate Sage for opening this up with "Ayo support the creators". I did not understand the comments for the Moro reaction especially since a multitude of people asked for it. "Well I didn't", there saved people a reply. People can condense the manga story however they feel fits their content best. There's nothing wrong with Justin going over every detail. There's no problem with Carthu just talking about the very important story bits while also chiming in to review and give his takes. It's 2 different styles of recap and if you don't mess with one, that's cool too, but there's nothing inherently wrong with either approach.

[@cantu7214]

see I would agree, had it not been for Carthu's obnoxious takes that interrupt the story and him nitpicking and complaining about things that he purposefully left out so that he would have something to complain about

[@indrainspace2601]

1:32:20 "Gun to yo back spit a bird man verse"

[@Sdfkiller]

I said that shit at work today lmao.

[@zeldagameryt4018]

“Gun to yo head now you know he dead”

[@MileHighAlumniEnt]

Maaaaan bro this granolah arc is liiiiiit i watched it awhile ago but bro you made this shit waaaaay more fire wit your commentary 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 im definitely a subscriber now

[@O0Ga.B00ogA._]

2 interesting things Justin's Den missed in the video: The Dialogue on Planet namek with Elder Mouri (around 21:40) implies that Namekians don't originate from Universe 7 (I would also assume this applies to U6 as well) but seemingly migrated there from another universe (or somewhere else in the multiverse) all together (The goat Carthu brings it up in his Granola arc video) Also True UI isn't a 3rd unique state of Ultra instinct, but is Goku just using UI Omen to better tap into his emotions better (I think you did pick that up, but generally people get confused about that so I figured it way worth pointing out, especially since post Superhero manga content still doubles down on the silver hair MUI being Goku's strongest form). Overall, I like the arc more than I did originally on this rewatch, but still feel comfortable saying I like Moro & the TOP better. Generally I just find this arc a bit messier than those 2 despite its peaks (which it has some strong ones, but it's lows do irk me personally). I'm not a fan of how the Bardock wish kinda implies Goku only survived throughout OG DB at times due to the wish rather than his own hard work (or at least I feel like it kinda undermines a lot of OG DB stuff imo). Also I find the conclusions for Goku's & Vegeta's character arcs in this saga kinda underwhelming & leaving things to be desired imo. Still a great arc though.

[@RaginDragn24]

"especially since post Superhero manga content still doubles down on the silver hair MUI being Goku's strongest form" it was said by whis at the beginning of the arc that goku needs to learn how to use UI all the time in his base form and use MUI as a last resort. it still applies at the end of the arc with goku using it against gas with the avatar form

[@agrronz8981]

Well, it is known that the creator of the Dragon Balls was a Namekian and one as powerful as Zenosama if I remember correctly, so surely the Namekians descend from that great Namekian.

[@WebbedManiac]

Well now it's confirmed in Daima that Namekians originated in the Demon Realm

[@Theremustbemorelight]

@1:40:42 The Oracle Fish NOT KNOWING who that was means Gas is NOT the strongest in the Fish’s prophecy

[@Dakingalbert2]

This whole arc was amazing becuase it pretty much was hard work and dedication vs short cuts and easy paths to power and hard work and dedication won in the end even down to frieza he trained for his new power! Great arc 💯

[@Swampboiii]

Personal favorite is Zamasu I know he wasn’t executed the best but the concept of a Kai going insane just resonated with me man His “holy crusade” was damn near a reality and I loved seeing it unravel

[@mr.goatgetaofcl]

1:14:12 Ayyo! Why'd bro pause on that frame in specific. I know it's because of what just happened, but still. It's so funny the angle the manga panel was drawn at.

[@dralx2042]

This is my favourite arc in DBS. Great fights, characters, development, and transformations. All around, a very solid story❤

[@Sa.Dboy7]

Vegeta is def #1 for most enjoyable winning fights , BUT crash out gohan is a close second cause he swears he’s not one but when it happens he loves being a crash dummy

[@evildosess]

I like how the writer gives the azzz pull wish a weakness and also show that even though you are and may be the strongest experience is still a factor which makes it much more entertaining

[@soraceant]

The main reason people dislike it is because of reading it monthly. It didnt flow as well as it does reading it in one go and they didnt like the dragonball powerups.

[@lelxd5811]

monthly*

[@soraceant]

@lelxd5811 thank you for the correction. I forgot.

[@rafaelvega1242]

I just recently came across your channel and I love the content!!! Dbz/dbs are one of my favorite anime’s and i never got to read the manga so watching your video along with reviewing the manga is heavenly for me!! Helps me catch up

[@rabbitt7516]

yo sols... please please consider watching the superhero manga arc, might be a drag but it'll be a full circle considering it was the last arc before toriyama passing away and the manga going on a hiatus, it also has a little tribute at the end

[@robbiedontmiss]

Tbh, it's only a drag because the movie came out. I think the Superhero arc was the best arc in the manga. Toyotaro was really in his bag that arc.

[@rabbitt7516]

@@robbiedontmiss oh for sure, it definitely felt less fan fic ish than granola

[@sc-1918]

​@@rabbitt7516thats the contrary beast and cell max are the most fan fic shit of the franchise.

[@rabbitt7516]

@@sc-1918 thats fair, goku black arc felt like an DB AF manga lmao but i still enjoyed it

[@HYPEGODDRAE]

17:48 I’ve always thought of this when he said it in the Resurrection F movie… I was like so we just gonna not talk about this or?😂

[@Julio9j11j]

Granola ark is peak dbs

[@SirThomas_II]

Let's go man!! I'm actually interested in seeing how this arc feels in one go compared to how dragged out it felt monthly

[@MarkITEXE]

I do kinda feel like this Arc, while it does have its flaws, is Severely Underrated in my opinion, hopefully when the Anime DOES come back, that they fix a lot of the problems that people have with this arc.

[@IIIISai]

Thats all super manga tbh, its good but not great sadly

[@T_money808]

@@IIIISaiWell people regard cell saga great yet it’s nothing special narratively it’s character writing is good but I think this arc nails the overall story better, such as having foreshadowing, good themes, a narrative and character focused development and the story coming full circle with everything set.

[@IIIISai]

@@T_money808 i hate cell saga lmao, anyways good points

[@cristobalvarela3135]

Im sure the Raditz thing with the wish is that both sons were in a death battle, so either one prevailed, or both died

[@O0Ga.B00ogA._]

W vid. Need more longer vids

[@eraea9179]

Raditz and Goku thrived but Raditz just had to go and piss his bro off lmao

[@jadencedras6878]

1:26:16 Ngl this kinda feels like a reminder that the other aliens in the universe just as broken as the saiyans caused I feel like we forgot Saiyan's like Vegeta broly are anomalies and goku has had a very specific journey to get his power on average the average Saiyan was kinda looked down apon amongst the other alien races in terms of base strength and skill

[@jackmanleblanc2518]

Dude COMPLETELY missed that Goku asked Monaito to give them their original clothes back instead lol

[@AhmedHussain-ju6xd]

50:18 goku: "thats vegetas technique"

[@conchadeconchos]

Funny how brothers blessed by dragon balls died together. Double edged wish

[@ieatpotatosalad535]

1:29:40 sage, Gas made a wish to be the strongest like granola he wasn’t this strong when he fought Bardock

[@prince_finesse9345]

Bro, watching this low-key made me realize that Barris is trying to scare Goku and Vegeta by saying that he’s stronger than them, but he’s scared of them because they get too powerful and he doesn’t want them to repel against him. That’s why he brought up the fact, freezer wiping out the saiyan race

[@wingedhussar1453]

I had an idea of an arc where earth is surrounded by a force from a different universe where a technological race sucks the ki out of the planets.meanwhile all the sayians lose all their ki and can't even fly. They have to use their actual martial arts skills only which would have the sayians use stolen mechs from the alien beings which patrol earth to take ki from earth. Lots of people on earth die let's just say in the end the sayians do get outside of the earth ki bubble by using guns grenades and mechs and in the end fight the aliens own mechs

[@AbdulmailkSheikh]

In DJ ghost voice: Next up Dragon Ball kakumei. But on a serious note you gotta get into that manga you won't be disappointed

[@dejuanTblanton]

Hot take: Kaioken is criminally underutilized. Even if Goku doesn’t use it, some characters like Krillin could benefit

[@lavenderpsycho]

Real shit

[@jdudbdjxb7687]

Real, should pair beautifully with Ultra Instinct as well

[@soraceant]

facts. shouldn't be exclusive to goku and chichi

[@xavierwalker6470]

@@soraceant Chi-Chi has the Red Blazing Aura, not Kaioken.

[@XenoVibezz]

it wouldnt make sense for krillin to use it i hate when people want people to use kaioken when it would kill the user instantly thats why king kai doesnt teach it to nobody and doesnt use it himself but goku dumb enough to learn about it and use it and make it work but super anime makes no sense how he can combine it with blue when blue is super saiyan god and super saiyan ccombined already and having a hard time controlling it from the start and didnt perfect it till future trunks arc

[@Hensley_Jb]

1:41:17 nice to see chat caught on to gas not being the one

[@Kaijicade]

I've enjoyed your reactions to the manga quite a bit. I really like Gas. His design and powers were very interesting. I especially liked his decaying state. Gas goes hard

[@MentaAzul]

He's really overhated :((

[@user-jd2kv1mr7m]

Goku finding his own version of ultra instinct is him finally catching up to prime time Gohan

[@MarioBusters]

Huge respect to Carthu for his Moro video, but just think this will be good for a better in-depth story. (Plus never seen Justin’s lol)

[@GregSmithIII]

22:08 "You like krabby patties, don't you Squidward? 😏"

[@javiusbaker4543]

Bro Ian gon line been feining for this one sage you be having perfect takes about the scales when you claim not to be a scaler 😂😂😂

[@IIIISai]

Rs

[@302ColinXx]

56:15 The only other character I like to see get his get back, is Piccolo 💯

[@Akiraspin]

"I wish for my sons to thrive." Blue Dollar Store Fent Shenron: "Stop the cap."

[@Kevinmentell098]

lmaoo

[@Kevinmentell098]

my boi Raditz got hoed🤣

[@abdulrafaykhan5252]

Goku with ui is like ALI While vegeta is like Tyson

[@DerriousGamez]

Oh oh Justin's vid was soo much better you should've watched that🤪🤣

[@JustJaeYT]

Yo sage analysis is dead what im thinkin at the exact same time 😂. This y i love this channel

[@alatusedits]

Definitely the Arc that represents everything wrong with dbs

[@IIIISai]

Explain, i mean I can kinda see it, goku stole the spotlight even tho moro arc did him good, granolas character was all over the place and frieza stole the kills, or do u have different reasons

[@T_money808]

Nah this arc has good themes, foreshadowing, nuances and even narrative and development. This arc is better than Moro and easily one of the best written in the franchise

[@alatusedits]

@@T_money808 you're on something, if you think this arc has anything on dbz

[@T_money808]

@@alatusedits Tell me objectively what the cell saga has besides good character writing? The plot is mid, they literally pin ball back and forth on whether to let cell absorb the androids or not, nostalgia is crazy. Granolah has better themes such as greed, the development of Goku, Vegeta and Granolah, the story coming full circle at the end etc Gas comparing Bardock to Goku and not seeing the same resolve on Goku’s eyes as Bardocks, even the narrative with the heeters, saiyans, Granolah and freeza coming full circle. It’s a better narratively and character driven story than Cell objectively speaking my friend. It’s some of the MOST in depth writing DB has ever had

[@redd-jb-]

​@@alatuseditsway better than the boo saga that's for sure

[@KT-ly2tr]

Can we take a moment to appreciate the pun of Oatmeel and Granolah being part of the "Cereal-ian" race

[@Guilherme_Guerreiro]

I have so much fun watching your videos brotha you are super entertaining. Btw you should rank all db arcs on a tierlist just saying