FinalMouse UltralightX The Hard Truth

[@QGinHQ]

Join The One Buck Club & Wield Your Sword! kzbin.info/door/kf4j4RqKKu6W6BQgHl0sqAjoin What do you think of the ULX? I don't love it, but i don't hate it. Approximate Weight: Cheetah (Small): 29 Grams - Lion (Medium): 35 Grams - Tiger (Large): 37 Grams. Price $189.99 Check out the ULX here: finalmouse.com/products/ultralightx

[@jamesvandorn2563]

I'm excited I'm going to order one next Monday on batch 2 and pray they fix these issues and I get good QC, I have a SL-12 Tenz M which is my favorite mouse, and I am also refurbishing it with the kit from Meowmouse because my left click died (kind of an important part of the mouse). So if the ULX isn't for me I will still have my starlight.

[@DanielMartinez-hc1nw]

You should get a HSK Pro 4k. It's amazing. I have huge hands. I use the free mouse grip tape and makes it a bit thicker.

[@Alex-oj8po]

That flex is shocking. It's a real shame they didn't stick with the magnesium because the starlight 12 is SOLID and still just as light, I can push down on mine hard and it literally doesn't move at all. I'm guessing the material is just too hard to work with for mass production. Really hope they bring it back for a special edition or something, I'd pay extra for it

[@QGinHQ]

It’s def bc it’s a mass produced mouse. But the price point should also adjusted.

[@010falcon]

I also got the Starlight 12 the Zeus Just a beautiful mouse. Yet I will get the ULX, it seems like an improvement

[@hdnfjtegsges]

"just as light" while the medium starlight weighs 46g and the ultralightx medium weighs 37g (the ultralightx medium is even bigger in shape) The ultralight was also developed for fingertip and clawgrip. I have no idea which finger grip user would press their mouse like that to notice the flex and you should keep your mouse as relaxed as possible for the best aim. Imo the mouse is just crushing the competition

[@aeisbaer8042]

MgAl is just not that great for mice. Finalmouse had huge problems with consistent click tensioning and build quality QC. Even Razer had QC problems with their MgAl mouse, which is btw 115€ more expensive in Europe. Yes, metal is more rigid then the Carbon composite that they use rn, but the flex is literally not noticeable in game and while you use the mouse. Not even speaking about the fact that the ULX is about 10g lighter than the Starlight.

[@Xoilen]

Have you used the Beast X at all?

[@I3asyl]

Hey i have a friend who is offering me the starlight tenz for $100. No build quality or QC issues either. Is it worth just getting that instead of waiting for the ULX. I feel like no matter what carbon fiber won't feel as premium and I don't really care about the weight difference.

[@QGinHQ]

The Tenz starlight one of my favorite drops from FM. $100 is a solid price - def make sure it’s all working properly.

[@alexstefan1693]

I have an unrelated question. I see that you are runing beyerdynamic dt 1990 pro, what amp are you using or what setup do you have for this headset?

[@Grocky.]

BRO WTF 34 Grams u literally got the lowest Medium fm that i have seen so far

[@sghorbi]

Insane this lucky dude

[@Grocky.]

Are you waiting for yours to come too? Im in eu waiting and praying for good qc and just dreaming of this weight lmao@@sghorbi

[@KamtanaR6]

It’s a bad scale.

[@Grocky.]

@@KamtanaR6 also possible but that inaccurate?😭idk

[@dunkinzsoda]

Do you still use the starlight tenz small? I really like using mine but I don’t hear people mention it much anymore

[@DizConnected]

They just shipped my UltralightX today. I hope a get a good one, without any issues. Currently using the Logitech Superlight v1

[@QGinHQ]

They have been addressing the issues, hope it works out!

[@DizConnected]

@@QGinHQ So far, I don't see any issues. All the seams seem to be together; the buttons feel great. The only thing I don't like is how hard the mouse wheel is to scroll, but it might get better with use, it's not a deal breaker and I can get used to it.

[@bellsgg]

How do you feel about the fact that they have acknowledged some of the quality issues and are going to repair them / fix the ones they havent shipped out yet?

[@QGinHQ]

If they fix these issues, which I’m sure they will - it’s a insta buy

[@bellsgg]

thanks for the reply. im currently struggling to go for this on the next drop or try to find a last legend. i really wanted to go magnesium but not sure if its worth it or to just get this one. your opinion would rerally help me here. Thanks again! @@QGinHQ

[@notTerabyte]

so as far as i can tell, the only publicly released finalmouse ulx is the medium (lion), which people are reporting around 37-38g, i have zero clue how the hell yours is scaling in at 34g

[@QGinHQ]

You are the second person to say mine is actually light. I'm shocked they are coming in so high.

[@t3nk0]

what size you got ? it looks like medium size

[@QGinHQ]

Medium

[@t3nk0]

@@QGinHQ i would say you are lucky. you got the lightest medium version of all. others are are between 37g and 39g. you can be happy in this case .

[@ihyily]

@@t3nk0 unless his scale is incorrectly calibrated or just wrong

[@RealKyurem]

Im deciding if i should go for the superlight g pro x 2 or this finalmouse but i think I might go for the gpx 2

[@Brankokovac]

GPX 2 no question… you’ll be happy you did

[@RafaelSilva-yv3oh]

Totally different mice. I can't use a GPX because it's too big. This is a fingertip mouse, barely a claw one, maybe the big size, but it will still be smaller than the GPX. You're not comparing equal mice IMO. If you want a GPX you can compare to a Pulsar X2V2 medium, or Lamzu Atlantis. But the ULX even at medium is way smaller.

[@la009895]

but will they look as cool? we know bling is worth 2x in the price

[@QGinHQ]

I need it bedazzled lmao

[@010falcon]

So I‘d like to adress some of your points. Grip tape: It’s thin and will wear quick: well they kept it thin because of the weight. All grip tapes wear out, this is normal. And there are already grip tapes for the dtarlight 12 from third parties, just buy those. The feel, well we are pushing what’s possible, the price you are paying is not for a „premium“ product, but the marvel of engineering. Getting to sub 40g is very impressive, yes going from 80 to 60 is ok, but the challenge is the lower you get… The build quality of the back part seems sketchy I know. But look, everyone told me when I bought my starlight 12, oh the scrollwheel will break, the buttons have side to side play. It has terrible QC it will break, yet mine is still alive. A Zeus Medium. Is it overpriced, yeah probably. Will the enthusiast still buy it, definitely. Man people spend their money on other stuff, my friend bought a Model locomotive for 2000 dollars the size of this mouse.

[@QGinHQ]

All valid, I don’t hate finalmouse they have clearly changed the game and they have achieved amazing feats. I’m all for a lighter mice and understand the love people have for “lighter the better”, but this mouse is creaking with the touch of a finger, and the back is lifting off of the bottom. I have higher hopes for future batches of these mice, as the problem most likely resides with the factory that is producing/assembling these shells. I own a ton of FM dating back to the beginning, I’m still a fan of the company and will be looking forward to future FM drops. I appreciate your insight, thx for checking out the vid!

[@010falcon]

@@QGinHQ yeah let's hope the creaking gets fixed. Again I think RJN said this was negligible, but it is a problem. Yet again one should consider what really matters, not small details that you won't notice, I mean look at the DPI button, you change the DPI once, then never again, so why have it. Oh, one more think. Why does it feel cheap, I thought about it. Let's look at another story, iPhone 4 vs competitior. They had a all metall, heavy design. Heft gives you the feeling of "premium". So that's maybe a part of the reason why it feels sooo cheap. But that's just speculating now.

[@gobbl1553]

you got the medium variant, it is 35grams. the small variant is 29 grams.

[@Accuaro]

The fact you cannot change your DPI outside of predetermined DPI chosen by FM kills this product for me. I use 1400 and I've been used to it, I don't want to change my habits that I'm proficient in using and cost me hundreds at the same time.

[@abadmixtape]

I'm not trying to come off as a hater but what's so difficult about switching your in-game sensitivities to match 1,600 dpi using a converter

[@zzzap4778]

Hi what are the other alternative mice that you would recommend that are in a similar league weight wise? :)

[@karlkriesel9105]

G wolves htx, g wolves hsk, and BEASTMOUSE are the only mice I know of below 40g

[@zzzap4778]

Thank you man

[@ohimdabiggestbird]

i do agree with you, i am just wondering what are the mouse you would recommend instead?

[@QGinHQ]

If you are trying to stay as light as this mouse and that’s all your trying to achieve, I’d say just try to get a starlight from fm or a lamzu maya. If you’re not so into weight and don’t mind a 52g+ I’d go with the pulsar x2h or x2v2.

[@ohimdabiggestbird]

@@QGinHQ isn't the classic thats everybody going for the razer deathadder v3 pro a better option? or should i really go with the pulsar x2v2, because i have both of those options also just curious, i havent heard of the pulsar x2h a lot, is it a better version or a worse version of the x2v2?

[@QGinHQ]

@@ohimdabiggestbird The x2h is my favorite mouse of the year, but it's def not for everyone. Check out my review of it and maybe it can help you out. -kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2qZdXZ8bN6FjrMsi=ceAn3Lo_vyAzTOFh

[@AlejandroSuntay]

I appreciate the honesty of your review and not giving into the clout chasing of ripping on it/loving it to death while ignoring problems. I just purchased one, and I hope it doesn’t have any problems, but I’m prepared to order another/RMA if needed. Though it was expensive in terms of average “gaming” mouse prices, I do feel that they will eventually work out the kinks with constant production. Knowing what you know now, would you still order or just wait for something else, and if so, what mouse would you wait for?

[@QGinHQ]

I mean it still performs well as of right now, mine could be worse than others. The price point for how fragile this shell feels id have to skip it. The FinalMouse tenz is still one of the best they dropped. My main mouse I keep going back to is the pulsar x2h. I think it’s one of the best of the year.

[@eleesium8407]

@@QGinHQ Yeah, I think it's just bad production and perhaps even the material's qualities when producing it. Some are saying it's rock solid and they show them genuinely squeezing and only showing the palm area as being squishy. But then some people are showing it being fragile, or some areas are fragile and some are rock solid. One had it where nothing was squishy/flexible and even had M1 & M2 moveable. It's obvious there's poor production quality here.

[@JoshTechgamer]

Great review. Hmm, I saw a new pawang but sold out storm breaker. But these both mouse sold out

[@QGinHQ]

JTG! Yeah I saw the storm breaker It looks cool, i need to get my hands on one.

[@JoshTechgamer]

@@QGinHQ I want one 2 sold out

[@xBelowZerox]

I love your reviews, wish you reviewed more mice. Either way though keep it up ☺️

[@QGinHQ]

More to come!

[@mikerzisu9508]

I honestly like it. I don't feel like I squeeze the mouse enough to damage it. It doesn't feel as premium as the starlight series though, no question. It feels like plastic. Stupid light though

[@QGinHQ]

I’m glad that you like it! It preforms well it just has that plastic feeling for sure. Maybe I’m just to used to the magnesium 😢

[@mikerzisu9508]

@QGinHQ that said I just got the maya in the mail today, and it is pretty good too

[@XVisionsProd]

i used to squueeeeeze my g pro wireless so hard the shell would pop off all the time, never happened with my Tenz Ultralight had it a year or more

[@XVisionsProd]

i dont like the side buttons on the last legend. Tenz > TLL

[@QGinHQ]

I absolutely love the Tenz FM! I will die on that hill!

[@jasonjennings8465]

As much as I want to try that mouse out, I dont think the shape is for me. I also death grip, probably not a good combo. Nice looking mouse though. Design is on point for sure.

[@QGinHQ]

Death grip will most def cause some squeaks. FM did crush the design, cool looking for sure.

[@MCR.88]

Is the base any stronger than the previous SL12? I death grip and my first gen SL12 crumbed at the base where the magnesium pins/screws meet. @@QGinHQ

[@julioc918]

I have not received my unit so I cant comment so far, but many people dont like this mouse after having it in hand but there are people that love this mouse as well.

[@DJaquithFL]

Okay .. then what other ~34g competitive mouse is available under $200?? 🦗 Personally, I don't like small nor medium sized mice, I have their Poseidon and it's too damn small. My ideal shape is a GPX Superlight and I'm waiting for the ULX Tiger (Large,

[@outdoorogre4279]

The wlmouse beastx is magnesium almost the same size and same specs and is having no qc issues. I sold my ulx within a day of having it. Imo it’s a piece of junk. If it was half the price I could look the other way but mouseclicks are wobbly sides flex like hell. It’s trash idc what anyone says

[@QGinHQ]

I want to get the beastx in hand!

[@quixoticstar]

Maybe they will do something about the shell stability in the future, if enough people speak up.😶

[@RafaelSilva-yv3oh]

Tbh, the flex isn't a big deal. People who press their mouse hard enough to flex it, need to be working in other aiming skills before looking at spending $150+ on an ultra lightweight mouse. When you fingertip, you barely apply any pressure, and that's the grip this mouse is designed for. Work on proper mouse control before going down the rabbit hole of buying expensive mice. No need at all to grip hard as that tires your hand/wrist/arm causing inconsistent aim.

[@FishFPS]

The flex on my mouse is already becoming a problem (after about 20 hours of use). The sides noticeably creek without putting ANY pressure on them, just during normal use. I don't expect this mouse to be very durable. People have laughed at me for this -- But I'll keep saying it. This mouse DOES NOT FEEL LIKE IT'S MADE OF METAL. Carbon fiber shouldn't flex like this. It feels like cheap plastic. Probably going to pick up a Razer Viper Mini SE, when it goes on sale this Saturday.

[@QGinHQ]

Sounds like we’re in the same boat

[@FishFPS]

@@QGinHQ Ya, unfortunately, FM support hasn't responded to me at all and in their Discord, I just get laughed out. :/

[@Casevil669]

Sorry but why would it feel like it's made of metal if it's not?

[@yomamasboyfriend]

​@@FishFPS damn after reading a couple of messages like this I feel like the main/biggest mouse reviewers were all bought out and now I am regretting buying a tiger version of it. Might be able to sell it for the same price I paid if I don't like it though.

[@partzlol]

The small is 29 and 30 through 50 grams is not a heavy mouse

[@K1ngPIN27]

I didn't get mine yet but I'm excited. I might have to test how far the back bends.

[@QGinHQ]

🔥🔥🔥

[@sam2theammyk9]

something about them lying by 5 grams is crazy. so 34 grams, 40 grams, and 42 grams. ill just get the Maya for half that and same weight

[@fish4736]

He has the medium they say the medium is 34 grams.

[@TonyTheTiger1000]

Thank god I didn't get one yeah finalmouse has a lot of QC issues like come on now for price point of $189 they should be 0 QC issues like WTF...

[@QGinHQ]

I agree ☝🏻

[@Ratatwa]

Thank you for keeping it real with us!

[@SxrrowR6]

you are not paying the prettiness of the mouse nor the durability of the shell, youre paying for a mouse with one of the fastest response time clicks out there, youre paying the insane sensor, ure paying for the insanely low weight, stop poking at your mice guys, it wont break if you dont try to break it

[@lostboy2637]

Dude 34G is perfect, I have seen other guys like the TheWhale who have gotten a 39G copy

[@fwabble]

Great honest review, that flimsy piece of plastic is worth £69-79. Considering the Attack Shark X3 is £33.99

[@baddog3211]

It's not plastic lol

[@malamar1837]

Carbon fibre

[@Decki777]

​@@baddog3211it's not 100% carbon fiber it's a plastic + carbon fiber

[@klubhead7070]

Glad I didn’t buy it back in August. I almost did but I’ve heard to many QC issues.

[@QGinHQ]

Yeah it’s unfortunate, I’m waiting to see some other units. Thanks for checking out the vid.

[@jiszle697]

Finalmouse should have learned from that submarine that imploded at the titanic shipwreck lol. That vessel was made of carbon fiber too and obviously that didn't end well. Carbon fiber is just inferior.

[@Thin_Limbz]

29g for the small bro

[@Decki777]

This is not a 100% carbon fiber mouse. It's a carbon composite this mouse may have just 25% carbon fiber because this mouse is flimsy as shit carbon fiber is extremely light and stronger than steel.

[@TTEREVE]

all im seeing is normal final mouse QC quality

[@QGinHQ]

Mans out here preaching

[@2141mario]

Finalmouse loves your scale

[@ashy3340]

If Shane Gillis reviewed mice

[@KamtanaR6]

The 29g advertisement is for the Cheetah only, and that’s without paint and skates. Apart from that the flex in the back is normal, the gap at the bottom right is a screw problem, you just have to get new skates and tweak the screw. The $190 is because it’s the cheapest Wireless 8k mouse

[@QGinHQ]

I will def try to fix the issues I have, and 8k is wired only.

[@DarkIdrees]

My model d wireless is more premium that this shit at 69 grams and the omron mechanical switches are crisp...side buttons have no wobble, build quality is great I squeeze pretty hard on my mice and it's never even creaked, the 2.4ghz wireless at 1000hz is seamless...to me the model d is all I need until this mouse dies...I bought it at 80usd and rn its 48 on glorious website

[@ishi...]

...flex does not equal "easy to break", it's probably the opposite. They never stated the (M) Lion was 29 grams, 29S 34M 38L, I think. The Price I would say is in line with, what is on the market right now (50+gram Chinese mice or less feature rich mice for 90-120€), even though I don't believe in all these fancy new features like ultra low weight, 8k pooling and optical switches, so I got a 50€ darmoshark m3s instead.

[@Casevil669]

Carbon fiber composites are much more durable against expanding than they are against compression, so in this case it's definitely not 'the opposite'. Flexing inward will cause micro-cracks in structure which will definitely lead to noticeable wear over time if you happen to grip / use the mouse in a way that flexes the structure.

[@ishi...]

@@Casevil669 from looking at some other reviews, I think this flexing only really occurs in the back hump of the mouse and would not actually happen during normal use.

[@sirolt]

the hard truth, or am i hard becuase of the truth?

[@vdbmario]

Final mouse has never produced anything worth making a video for. Horrible QC at insane high prices. It’s amazing how they have worked the FOMO from their audience. $200 for a bad mouse and people buy it, incredible marketing makes people just throw their money away. Much better options out there for WAY less money.

[@officialteamroc]

bro the grip tape is the best on the market i think!!!! but the mouse is trash!!! im selling mine

[@QGinHQ]

I don’t have any issues with the tape - but pulsar has the best tape out rn.

[@Robinss0n]

bro look like he would eat the mouse for breakfast

[@QGinHQ]

Daddy hongry, ima eat you!

[@Robinss0n]

pls dont papi@@QGinHQ

[@realest_JoJo]

I was initially interested in the Large drop of this mouse but these things look laughably bad in terms of build quality, was shocked when i saw the flex on the rear of that shell you could literally punch a hole through with your fingers if you really wanted to lol

[@Veroxus]

You were lucky enough to get the 1% rarest weight Finalmouse, and yet you still complain about the price. Buddy, the Finalmouse wasn't meant for the ordinary consumer, it was meant for esports players who need the edge or wealthy collectors. The average consumer is not Finalmouse's target demographic. You can always buy a Razer Deathadder V3 wired if you are a lower to middle class American. No one is stopping people from buying a cheaper mouse, but I find it odd that you will use a high price as a negative, when in reality, the high price is because of its exceptional 8khz polling rate, industry leading sensor implementation, and ultralight weight and #1 wireless mouse in terms of weight. Furthermore, it is lighter AND significantly cheaper than Razer's Viper Mini SE, but I don't see you complaining about that one. And who are you to talk about price? You're a grown man with so many expensive toys around your room. You shouldn't be complaining about price, of all people.

[@QGinHQ]

My mouse is literally splitting in two. I’m talking about price for the average consumer, you think I have an issue with 189 dollars? I don’t struggle with money, as you can see by the “toys” around me. I haven’t used the Viper mini, so why would I speak on it? I own 90% of FinalMouse products. Most releases dating back to day one, and I can prove it. 8k wired is great that’s apart of the reason I said this mouse still performs well. I review tech, and I influence people on what to purchase. If you think a mouse that costs 189 dollars that shows up almost falling apart and squeaking is an industry leading product, you’re just wrong. This mouse isn’t meant for a certain demographic, it’s meant to be in stock at all times for everyone, meaning the average gamer to the pro.

[@MastRYT]

lmfao. ok