Finance Bill 2023 | Kenya’s big Conversation (Part 1)

Finance Bill 2023 | Kenya’s big Conversation (Part 1)

[@Mike00254]

Venye hii finance bill inakuwa promoted inakaa AIM Global hahaha

[@CHRISNGULE-qp4ye]

Ningekuwa na Pesa haki ningewapeleka out Hawa watangazaji wote.. well spoken , well trained, kujipanga nayo!!!❤❤. Thanks for helping Kenyas understand this gort ghost.

[@joeyseclipse3117]

Lete heshtegi tuchangishe💯💯

[@azaelsimeon9035]

This is only but abait because the criteria they are using

[@lathafoods]

Shut up falling horse

[@henryrawlings6529]

😅😅😅

[@valentinewaithira-hn2vb]

walai tena huyu mtu ambiwe maisha ni ngumu

[@antidote254]

when this bill is passed we should all take to the streets..ruto is selfish

[@key-ur5vz]

Yuh want us to live on subsidy?

[@geoffreyowenga3958]

Azimio will not take to the streets since we knew this idiot was bound to do exactly that. That is why we didn't vote for him😂😂

[@joeyseclipse3117]

Kwame summarized the housing sh*t like he was taking coffee 👏👏👏💯

[@bostongetuma8137]

for real

[@gabiesanchez8943]

Kwame is clueless and emotional. Kenya has left housing to the private sector for decades and the result has been proliferation of slums. Kwame has zero experience in financing huge projects unlike PS Hinga who has a background in banking and financing huge projects. Kwame is a desk economist who just reads economic papers and makes economic theories. Kwame has not produced or quoted any evidence of places where the housing fund has failed. PS Hinga has quoted studies of 10 countries where the housing fund has been implemented; both successful countries and unsuccessful countries. Let Kwame dispute the PS with facts and research studies, not with his gut feeling. Kwame is asking Kenyans to believe his gut feeling, and reject the bill.

[@joeyseclipse3117]

@@gabiesanchez8943 You know all this noise will dissipate if this bill rests somewhere in a cupboard till the economical tides rests to lessen the burden on the normal citizen. If it's true that the government wants its people to own houses then let them, government/investors do their bidding like in real estate then whoever not everyone nor mandatory but whoever wants to own an apartment somewhere get one, begin the payment procedures in whatever installments there are. The "Schemes" we've got or had in this country of ours has taught us big deal of information and knowledge without forgetting the government itself in matters pertaining refund to those families around SGR land blablabla. Watu si wajinga buana table things clearly not using other countries examples to make us reason with you, coz they're not Us and we ain't them never will be...

[@amosbarasa7384]

​@@gabiesanchez8943 Remember among the 10 studies PS Hinga provided among them were Singapore and Brazil. Singapore is slightly bigger than Nairobi City County, the levy was implemented when their income levels were high compared to Kenya right now. In Brazil, despite the housing project, the problem still exists.

[@gabiesanchez8943]

@@joeyseclipse3117 We have left housing to the public sector for decades, and they (housing investors) have demonstrated that they will only build decent housing for the wealthy 3% that have a monthly salary of 170k and above. The housing fund is meant to cure this problem. Government comes in when there are market imperfections in the housing market, such as proliferation of slums. In principle, most rational Kenyans agree that we have a problem of shortage of decent housing, and a shortage of job opportunities. I'm happy that we are only disagreeing on the methodology of solving these problems. We will eventually come to a consensus sooner or later.

[@bernardoloo2023]

Moses Kuria is the only wrong piece in this puzzle😂

[@janetkiio8211]

Ruto angesema Hospitals, university each county ni sawa . lakini hii ya nyumba a big no no no,😢😢😢. imagine mbona aseme tupe shamba ajenge then after rent for 5years then the rest, after period of that time the house becomes yours and rent also. hii ya nyumba eti you contribute then you buy the same house 1.8 bedsiiter , 2.9million one bedroom and 4.8 m and above two bedrooms. why house why houses???? Ruto Wacha mchezo this will hunt you till 2027 and let's see you get vote, people have already become tired of you. Mr. President ( Ruto) unless you steal we will see come 2027.😢😢😢😢😢😮😮

[@blairreznick]

Royal Media Never Dissapoints

[@kinooboy]

Whatever happens fail or pass we have matured in our democracy, this is awesome

[@johnosumba1980]

That is not a democracy.

[@harrisjnr6553]

If we impeach this executive then i can comfortably say we matured... Till then 😹 ni ndoto ✌🏾

[@TheKaysti]

Priorities and trust; these are the biggest burden this government has to deal with. Their actions since they took over in 2022 have betrayed these two issues. The manner in which they have conducted themselves on matters spending has left more doubt than confidence in the public!

[@bonfaceokoth1536]

I am just disturbed that the same man who promised our kids laptop is promising us houses and we are meant to believe houses are on the way, we never learn I say.

[@winnywin6988]

Only a fool will think this government has their best interest at heart

[@priscillanjeri968]

Ruto... ask kibaki how he revived economy....stop. Taxing a nation to prosperity 😢

[@angelamaiyo2524]

Ask him how even you?

[@katekavundu1459]

Good work,,, now we know something about the behind the financial bill

[@shirokuriah]

If the Kenyan government is accountable for other given mandate such as healthcare, education we can trust them with housing. Let them first articulate their core mandate before taken on others. Already the government has scandals all over let them fix that before taken on additional work.

[@lowk3y_KE]

The way that they cut out Moses Kuria BS was amazing

[@paulmwahe7678]

haha he was talking nonsense

[@rosylenekaari1495]

I was looking for this comment 😂😂

[@Muyumbui_Curtis]

That is what we want as a country. To cut these politicians out cause they talk nonsense all the time. Giving them attention drains us of our energy and imagination.

[@mainagatei6412]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mourice1669]

😂😂A Good comment

[@MosesMwachiroTU-BE-]

Please protect kwame,he is telling the truth 😂

[@WinnieRuttoh]

I am soooo proud of Lulu! The one professional woman journalist for the longest time!

[@mcpaultv4028]

You only saw and be proud of lulu you're clueless of what Kenyans are talking about

[@CharlesfaneG]

Eric Omondi

[@alexsimiyu8582]

diversionary tactics to cover your namesake🙄

[@samikeerthi]

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[@samikeerthi]

​@@alexsimiyu8582llpppppplp😊plp😊ppppp😊plppplppppppppppppplppp

[@munez413]

Kwame has nailed it. The housing fund is not a priority. Lets deal with Unemployment first, lets deal with hunger and security concerns first. The housing fund can and should wait especially in such a financial crisis. Majority of Kenyans don't want it.

[@floraigokiterah1642]

Globally countries are facing the same issues and they have not closed “shop”

[@Zack-w3r]

Watu wa patie njembe tuede kazi, kwani kuna kazi government imeweka pahari 😮

[@DathanMD]

Kenyans reason with their buttocks. How do you address unemployment without creating job opportunities. This is what housing project is meant to do! Create job for Vijana in the construction industry.

[@tonyericksorangeboy1196]

@@DathanMD As if you reason with brains , have you perused the finance bill properly or you are only limiting it to the housing issue?

[@howardokiror9421]

In dealing with housing, employment will be created. The level of employment is immaterial, it's still employment.

[@anthonyinyanya213]

When I look at withdrawal of Linda mama, HELB, Subsidies on food &Fuel and pesa Kwa wazee na Maisha Yameharibika, I can't be convinced on anything.

[@selfieboychannel8338]

Ayub starting " is it slum upgrading or affordable house program"😅 wueh kubaya

[@sophiekitao4114]

CONGRATULATIONS KWAME AND BILLOW MADAM

[@MohammedMohammed-uo5sk]

Royal media excellent 👌 job pliz keep kenyans alert coz we have our constitution coz no leaders are above it .😅😅😅

[@geoffreyowenga3958]

You UDA conmen managed to con Kikuyu's but you can't con us. other communities. That is not what you told Kenyans about creating for them jobs.

[@ferdinardrono6275]

I keep watching citizen TV in my entire life,well planned and managed stages every given opportunity

[@gracemweti4868]

I keep watching citizen tv on your website so please 🙏 me on this as my new opportunity will not have much more!

[@benzs255]

Napenda vile watangazaji wa lugha ya Kiswahili,,ongera kwa kuboresha lugha

[@albertnyangoka6756]

Am very surprised how David Ochieng is a government representative instead of a representative of the people

[@johnmwakilili]

When you are elected on an odm or UDA ticket you put your party leader first or else....

[@albertnyangoka6756]

@@johnmwakilili put the people who elected you first, not even your party leader. Ochieng is simply a disgrace

[@Infinity74856]

David Ochieng has never been a representative of the people, & he never will. The guy is a representative of his own stomach.A real tumbocrat politician😅

[@joeyseclipse3117]

@@johnmwakilili One thing is for sure, if the higher ups aren't satisfied with your game you become a liability. No one wants that in their Resume...

[@georgeogot-o8q]

Ochieng always think that he will be taller than his size...

[@CHRISNGULE-qp4ye]

Amazing royal media a love all the watangazaji. Doing good job

[@fredwanjala1792]

Wonderful pairs of presenter,I love these guys.

[@therapconnect]

Feels good to know Lincoln Njogu that unique sound from Radio citizen😅

[@mosesmbadi4158]

This boda boda guy clearly does not understand what this bill is all about. There will never be a "watu kutoshanishwa" bs!

[@eshiyosalat7211]

Citizen is just different level…well trained journalists

[@linewangui8997]

STAND STAND DON'T BE BLACK MAILED BY RUTO.... SHAKAHOLA DECEIVER. SWEET MOUTH FOR NOTHING.

[@joseskinyua4627]

Why did you people bring moses kuria.. This guy keep talking nonsense

[@mcpaultv4028]

Moses Kuria alikua ametoka kwa choo akaanza kuhara maneno 😢😢😢😢😢 calling Wangas name like afool

[@kyaloNdeti]

Can we first build classrooms before houses, I personally patriotically will pay that additional 3% for classrooms, how can this government that cannot build classrooms builds housing?

[@edmondanyonaombaye3340]

Kuria cut off nicely, Journalists very organized and professional, Hinga just a Hinga, Kwame thank you for waking up this mediocre government

[@josephmwangingure3259]

Moses kuria is drunkard why is soo arrogant 😢

[@valentinewaithira-hn2vb]

the things is the president is working on less important issue feed the nation first the income is so low are many people are suffering out there and please make it clear

[@ngunjiz]

So the only available jobs ni za mjengo 🥴

[@davludi2612]

This jobs/tenders and supply sheared amongst kales trusts me watu wataliya kwa choo

[@jacquelineindia1087]

Kwame you are brilliant...

[@bobohk3655]

Ofcourse this was the best and biggest conversation .thumb high loyal media well trained journalist 🎉

[@anthonyinyanya213]

The 57year old guy nailed it. Watu wa boda hawawezi elewa chochote. Hao kudanganywa ni rahisi

[@josephogutu5723]

Layal media.? NO, it is royal media.

[@josephogutu5723]

Kwame Owino tell them ..this is a white lie aimed at woodwinking gullible Kenyans to fund the greed of our corrupt Gvt officials period.

[@stove7197]

Thank you Kwame!!

[@JosephLumumba-e6u]

Kuria, must you mention Homabay for you to convince kenyans.

[@felixmuthoka6104]

😂😂

[@nyamaieliud3637]

He has no other way to convince people

[@jumabrando1181]

Kuria is just rude..This government is full of chestthumping hooligans

[@edwinkuhora6645]

this Kwame guy needs state protection..very smart guy, if any kenyan has ears let them hear.

[@mcpaultv4028]

Huyu anaongea Nini Moses Chietha

[@ritahmutheumuia1604]

Ofcourse kwame should represent ndii but politics of rewarding mediocrity could never give him a chance in govt. you can’t talk to people about housing and they can’t feed themselves. What we having in this country is a crisis. We need short term interventions . Si story za abunuwasi.

[@AnnahMwangi-l1v]

Moses kuria ni kelele tu😂😂😂

[@MohammedMohammed-uo5sk]

Wakenya siwajinga kitawaramba coz ucan fool people sometimes but ucant fool people all the time hakuna pesa bwana.serekali watafuti mbinu ya kuweka peaa mfukoni then watukate hio ushuru but kwa sahii noma sana.wanakaribisha maandamano 😅😅😅

[@bonfaceonyangooiye3318]

Hii ni ukoro

[@solproduction254.]

Kwame is a big deal,he has knowledge on the matter 💯and I agree with his points 💯

[@zillahmalia4577]

The housing levy is not the only issue in that bill. Why are you focusing on it only

[@johnsonmuturi4537]

l love your orgerzation @ Citizens

[@kithinjikaimenyi8402]

moses is seriously incompetent

[@benmathenge]

First create mechanisms to fight corruption, grow industries, factories small businesses, agriculture, innovation, employment, etc then people will not have an issue with the bill. How do you tax without first creating opportunities to make money

[@financeforwardwithdaniel]

The intro from Jeff🔥...RMS is something else

[@lilianmutheu7719]

This was really entertaining to watch.

[@anthonyinyanya213]

Why can't the government solve the problem of food. Why do they want our 3%

[@sucrase]

Kwame Owino just told Kenyans what they want to hear.

[@juliettunje8092]

Moses Kuria..missing the point! Are we talking about housing or unemployment...Be focussed...Government has no priorities....Is housing the real need of the kenyan citizens? Many promises and zero actions. why can't the government address real issues that citizens are facing? - Youth unemployment, food security, affordable health services,water access,etc

[@Gavinmiano]

Kwame is telling you what you need to hear

[@ruthameka]

Is the investor being leased the land or just given free land? When you buy or get this house will you own the land the house is on? This scheme is BS. Why can't the govt give Kenyans land to build their own houses? We still have displaced people from 2007. What is cheap to you guys that make millions is not cheap to mama mboga. So, to tell people the house will be cheap, depends on who you are talking about. These representatives are always taking Kenya for a ride. Ruto talked about them getting loans for 3%. Kenyans should be allowed to borrow where Ruto borrows for 3% so they can build their own house at a lower cost.

[@kiprotichaviator3935]

Hii nguo ya Lulu imeweza❤

[@loicendulevenzuki5591]

Kwanini junet, sifuna na babu owino hawakuitwa hapa😂😂😂

[@brucemwangu]

They are considered anarchists they always set the government on fire

[@victorpapillon831]

What's mosses kuria even saying 😂😂😂

[@timggdvs7981]

Kuria na pombe can be used interchangeably!

[@victorpapillon831]

@@timggdvs7981 really blame us Kenyans for giving positions to some of these people..

[@ruthameka]

Ruto sir, you people make very fat salaries. Cut your salaries in half and build Kenyans houses if your care about them like you say you do. The poor works want to keep their little money to feed their families. This is a way for the rich to launder stolen money and get free land in the process. Governors should turn down giving land for this project.

[@brigidharrietmunayi8917]

Very good, by President Ruto. Who blocks somebody to also climb the ladder cannot come down after climbing. MPANDA NGAZI USHUKA.

[@adamjackson1553]

The majority of people who have no home they paid 20,000/= to 7,000 so it means no real hustlers will fit in this program

[@mohammedmajuto1784]

ii kenya ina ujinga kwani serikali inataka kupangia vyenye nitatumia mshahara wangu? this is bullshit.....ni wizi mmepanga!

[@djtrev254]

Kuria ame bleach 😅

[@piusouma6387]

Kwame is the real deal❤

[@joseskinyua4627]

Am left wondering how you guys planned 4 panels running simultaneously. Kudos royal media. The conversation was great

[@ggke7802]

@Kuria is such a nuisance. Need soapy water and a tough thristled brush. Utoto nao?

[@AMMOHL]

Kwame deconstructed Hinga completely

[@jesusprotect1438]

LGBTQIA ILINGIA NA MULANGO WANYUMA KAMA RUTO PIA HII, MUSIPO CHUNGA, ITAINGIA...KWA MUKUNDU

[@dorisflorenceokila6963]

To Moses kuria and Nyoro nyinyi ni kupora tu hamjui vile tuna umiya hapa chini haki Mungu atawa angamisha and you might not see the end results your leadership ni kama ya sauli munatumakiza

[@dorisflorenceokila6963]

Moses kuria Mimi sitaki nyumba ,I don't need it tafadhali 😢😢

[@joeyseclipse3117]

We need employment to the younger generation buana...

[@mildaayuma5700]

​@@joeyseclipse3117 nyumba na kazi zinaendana aje sasa??😅😅

[@joeyseclipse3117]

@@mildaayuma5700 The largest age group is the youth na hatuna hizo kazi wenye wanazo miaka imeenda na wanasema you pay for like 25yrs...

[@mildaayuma5700]

@@joeyseclipse3117 hii kenya unadhani hata hiyo kazi mtapata na hiyo contract ikiisha mtaenda wapi??

[@joeyseclipse3117]

@@mildaayuma5700 Now that's the gigantic problem

[@davidmuturi4332]

Kwame there is a cult of ignorance in Kenya...

[@georgeandhoney.]

Even after all this, Ruto is still covering the ears and moving forward...

[@brejamotieno244]

RMS asante sana. Ayub Abdikadir thanks man.Erick Omondi our very own content creator submitting our struggles. Owino Kwame umewaramba😂

[@blessingstown7063]

Wasee wa Bottom up😂😂😂mnaibiwa..walai saa hii weed ingekua ready for sell wajackoya walai you were right 😂😂😂😂chilling with house levy with kenya kwisha

[@irungumg]

It’s smells like a con

[@shantalonyango4067]

What about people retiring in one year. Why should they pay the levy and they aren't going to get the house.

[@mourice1669]

This guy has not answered the question what criteria will be used to award the houses who gets a house first and why?

[@kamaugb5027]

Who will be the managers of these deductions? Is it a sacco or which bank will take care of the fund? Everybody knows we were taken for a ride wth hustler fund working like mshwari. Its as if its meant to swallow another institution. (Moi methodology.

[@MikeWere-ko7ee]

Good Lincoln,Ayub,LLulu,Rashid,JK&Trevor thumb s up

[@prakelianent943]

The 2008 financial crisis began with cheap credit and lax lending standards that fueled a housing bubble. When the bubble burst, the banks were left holding trillions of dollars of worthless investments in subprime mortgages. The Great Recession that followed cost many their jobs, their savings, and their homes.

[@charlesnyagah7423]

There was a stock of housing units. Mortgage brokers were pushing to subprime clients. Investment bankers were packaging MBS. Credit default swaps in the derivatives. In Kenya our capital markets don't have the depth to trigger a bubble. The uptake of the stock of units will be by the middle income not the targeted low income person.

[@ojwangbrian5286]

Awuoro Homabay😂😂

[@elijahogaya8837]

Stuff only Royal Media Services can offer. Brilliant journalism. Bravo.

[@thomaschege7843]

Kuria has zero knowledge ni kelele na kifua tu

[@priscillanjeri968]

Revolution loading 😢😢

[@edithwandolo4284]

Oh Kwame, wise one you are!!

[@teresiawachira1034]

Why don't this government make industrial manufacturing, people get employment, then the same people buy their own houses?

[@ruthieopiyo-RN]

Very true..and but their houses according to their needs and abilities

[@josephogutu5723]

Can anybody sane believe Moses Kuria?

[@nuruhumphrey6273]

Kwame just summarized everything

[@wildlifeterritories6790]

Kuria was the most useless to the debate

[@januarymutuku1853]

I love the Good work Citizen 💪 keep shinning....

[@kenlurther]

I think those investors should use their own money at their own cost.... And build those houses 🏘️ Then when does government houses get tenants they will get there money back after some few years They should not force people to give money end month Kwani those investors don't have enough??????

[@ediekipchumba458]

Shows cleverly that this is a daily robbery

[@josephmwangingure3259]

Kwame needs to be protected at all cost

[@kelvinmiyuyi4867]

Do we really have enough mason ,carpenter name them to work on this project once it commences, ama baadaye tunasema tunaupungufu wa wajenzi ndio maana ujenzi haujaanza