Financial aid from U.S.universities is up for renewal

[@mollygrace3068]

The least believable part about this was she was able to get two whole problems answered by the same person in the same building. This would most definitely be a two hour scavenger hunt on a real campus.

[@naomiemoore5725]

And more. The system is ridiculous. I have consoled more kids from UCLA and USC. And gave them viable options.

[@Addiict429]

had shit like that take 6 hours with multiple departments, emails phone calls, and lots of waiting and walking

[@KoderVPX]

2 hour goose chase just for it to lead back to the same person and them telling you to go somewhere else

[@scarface1499]

Don't get me started. I remember I got a scholarship from my college for the following semester and I wanted to know how much it would be (All they said is I got a scholarship). I went from my Graduate Advisor to Grad. Studies, to Fin. Aid to the Cashier's Office all the way back to my Advisor, who literally said, "Oh you should have just started here, I would've told you." Stupidest rabbit hunt I ever did.

[@faithkidwell9757]

I’ve literally been on this scavenger hunt multiple times. Once they sent me to an office that was actually a classroom to meet someone that didn’t even work there and nobody had even heard of. Ahhhhh college.

[@Grinchthanksgiving]

This happened to me. I called the dean and snitched on every administrator that screwed me over. He put me back in my classes. Shout out to Georgia state Dean

[@craigmusa2254]

Fake story

[@Grinchthanksgiving]

@ 100% true😂. While I didn’t call the dean, I did email him and he definitely responded and he definitely instructed the academic advisors to put me back in my classes. My classes were also online so “limited space” wasn’t a big deal.

[@sallyconnolly7874]

​@Grinchthanksgiving I snitched on so much stuff staff did wrong at university after a bad situation last year I was 100% convinced I wasn't going back there...I stayed and now I see the staff I snitched on daily 🤣

[@mikayladouglas2503]

Actually yea this just happened to me this semester. Paid for all of my classes in full back in July but then found out the first day of class I was dropped for some reason they wouldn't even tell me. Tears were had and my advisor emailed the dean.

[@purplebubble777]

Sorry to hear that mate 😭i hope you recover from that plus my dumbass was not even considered for it💀

[@smashitupkcco9073]

"That deadline has passed" Som of the most demoralizing words you can ever hear

[@smokedham5119]

fr

[@QuixoticCowboy]

Not like having a deadline expire without taking the needed action is her own fault.

[@jacksonwells2181]

@@QuixoticCowboybot

[@torreschris.11]

​@@QuixoticCowboythe deadline to renew your life has passed. enjoy the rest of 2024 :)

[@jameshenning7451]

The that old lady life as passed

[@givrally]

Funny how strict the deadlines are when it comes to asking governments for money. But suddenly, when it's time to do the opposite, suddenly the deadline becomes 10 years, extended if they need.

[@Rishith198]

Ikr, the double standards are insane

[@sadespain01]

Or they delay giving back your tax return

[@nicpadilla9836]

It's ridiculous how bad the government is at everything. Our town was destroyed by a flood earlier in the year. 6 months later people are finally getting emergency funds.

[@ValorQuestStudios]

It's not funny at all. Stop giving them power everytime someone sneezes.

[@jazz2313]

Exactly

[@palindromicalyoutube4895]

THIS, I was a poor kid navigating college and grad school purely on scholarships on my own and every year there was some other obstacle to getting my money even though I was constantly checking up on things and running around campus asking every department for help. The only thing that saved me was I worked for the program head and he didn't want to train a new person. They make it impossible on purpose!

[@indidesitourer585]

iam asking out of curiosity, why would the staff bother to keep the student out? what do the staff get for doing something so sinister

[@scottpalmer4438]

​@indidesitourer585 absolutely nothing. It's n9t the staff it's the fact we decided the federal government should subsidize college, and then told everyone if you don't go to college you'll die destitute and alone, unable to feed a family you're whole life. It's not true, and never was this is a literal f*ckton of money to be made without a college degree. I make more money @ 35 without a college degree than any of my high-school friends do with one.

[@reignellwalker9755]

​@@indidesitourer585save money on paying their tuition because they are greedy. no wonder why the Bible says the love of money is the root of all evil...

[@gokitrimi]

@@indidesitourer585 they are americans, they hate it when the poor move up the social ladder

[@yaoiboy]

​@indidesitourer585 while everyone is the main character of their own stories to administrators you're one in thousands constantly needing attention and help for extremely basic things they could have handled if they took the time to read and follow instructions. No one is 'out to get' anyone, people just like blaming a system on their own failings.

[@femmefatalistic]

What gets me is the fact they say it with a smile every time. No sympathy, no respect. No consolation.

[@eiji862]

Those kinds of people have been doing the job for so long that they’ve grown numb to the feelings of others. They are dead inside.

[@thebobbrom7176]

There's something especially infuriating about people who deliver bad news with a smile It's like they're dead inside

[@zixeiyun786]

Maybe they are like me and have a nervous smile?

[@peezerthecat729]

you want the lady working the minimum wage desk job to just bust out a check for each kid who cant pay? can't pay don't sign up.

[@B00GH0STIE]

@@peezerthecat729 that’s more ridiculous than the price you have to pay for an education

[@germphreak]

I have literally been in this exact situation before. The system is such bullshit.

[@atpn39]

If you don't mind me asking, what did you do then?

[@soukoku.s_wife1929]

Same. It was hell 🤡

[@brrrrrrrrino]

How if you have to follow the rules? Lol you renew every single year, they tell you that every year. If you care about school, you care enough to follow the rules for course selection and financial aid

[@soukoku.s_wife1929]

@@brrrrrrrrino it’s not always like that. For someone who didn’t came to the States until I was in HS and that wasn’t familiar with anything at all I still have some trouble sorting all of that out. My counselor never really helped me and the teachers always sent me with her. She never knew what she was really doing and because she was the one supposed to help me, I didn’t knew either what to do.

[@monkhead7217]

@@brrrrrrrrinothen the rules are corrupt and unfair

[@petrovaromanova2309]

Ma'am, I have a financial AID because I'm BROKE. In the name of what logic you think I can give you a check!?

[@sebastianneking3399]

Same logic insurance companies have: aka....it's about the money, not real people 😂

[@ThePockyJocky]

even if they cared, which they don't they are just doing their job, its really not something they can often actually do anything about

[@roebaservant]

Would it be better for her to just tell her that she is screwed rather than giving her the options?

[@TECH097]

@@roebaservant She could be straightforward without acting like it's a simple solution that she gave up her hopes for, like seriously it's almost like she got off on giving her bad news.

[@colinturner6487]

Renew your financial aid then

[@joyjoy126]

“That deadline has passed” is the reason I don’t believe in the inflated, greedy, corrupt version of the “higher education” system anymore. More bureaucracy than education.

[@calebtolbert5454]

Bro ong

[@NebulousArray]

College is a scam anymore! whats the point of higher education if you'll just be paying it off for the rest of your life?

[@goldstinger325]

I am a 22 year old veteran in school in Florida. I've been living there for well over a year, they have had my address of permanent residence for the whole time, they've had my proof of independence (from DD-214) the whole time, and they applied out-of-state fees to me when there was absolutely zero criteria to do so. When I went and uploaded the documents they asked for again, They said they needed abother one 3 days later (but never notified me, it was simply a comment on their form submission. no email, no letter) Then they sent debt collectors after me, which in total has multiplied my year's tuition by 5x. Total bs.

[@sarahcashburger1560]

Always had been.

[@callmedragon4476]

That's why I never even bothered with college bro lol

[@wakkawakka900]

That's real. I went through this b******* every year in college. Just constant having to go back and forth getting signatures. Getting paperwork done. Just constant bureaucracy b******* of filling out s*** over and over and over and over. So stupid

[@littlebear3554]

Yeah that's why I'm not doing it. I'm autistic and would need aid to help fill out the paperwork and I can't read numbers properly. So college wouldn't work. No matter what.

[@drdoctor2362]

"That deadline has passed" was the line I heard after my college stole my tuition money. I never had direct control of the money, and when they booted me I never got it back either.

[@leeoshea2290]

I once had a course or should I say, a course had me I went to my bed, to rest my head when i awoke i was alone, this course had closed So, i lit a fire, isn't it good college wood

[@chaoticmercenary6585]

Oh yeah and then it becomes debt you have to pay back later in life, that's what happened to me

[@karriekattt]

I'm confused. You didn't have direct control of your own money?

[@drdoctor2362]

@@karriekattt we had a system between my high school and the college where we do our fasfa through them and get 2 years for free. Then they sent emails with deadlines, took emails down for maintenance on the o365 server, and by the time we received them the deadline was gone and we were removed from the Promise Program. Lots of upset students

[@drdoctor2362]

@@karriekattt yeah. They had a promise between my high-school and the college. We do our fasfa through them and get 2 years purely for free. Then they sent out deadline stuff, took our emails down for maintenance, and then said we missed the deadline because we hadn't seen the emails until after they got them back up.

[@Sara-dj3nv]

The system is so ridiculous 😭 they never give you enough time for anything and they explain nothing! You gotta figure it all out on your own and if you ask questions you have to ask multiple people bc nobody ever knows anything 💀 the timing is also super weird and not long enough! They’ll be like “oh what do you mean you couldn’t submit an application for [blank], you had all of 2 seconds to do it!!”

[@pokemans9753]

fasfa is open for 9 months how is that not enough time and the rules are pretty straight forward they tell you what to insert into the boxes or what to check off lmao

[@jordantamah9408]

​@pokemans9753 no the system is not straightforward. Fasfa may be easy but there are plenty of hoops that you have to jump through that change institution to institution. I just found out they i have to pay for a class out of pocket because I'm taking it in the second term and apparently scholarship awards are only released all at once. I 2000 dollars worth of aid that will go unused and this is not explicitly stated anywhere. You literally have to go on a scavenger hunt to get any questions answered.

[@ANANG408]

As a scholarship student, and friends with all the scholarship students, we are poor enough to be anxious about all the payments. And its an overseas scholarship, different language with a totally different system from where we all come from. University has a huge gap from high school, where we need to know 100% of everything on our own, a little bit of mistake can cost a lot. I can relate to her, every adults on uni expect us to understand in advance. Not to mention struggling with classes and mental health.

[@Slav_Stiibun]

The wording on the FAFSA is a bit misleading, once you fill it out so many students believed that the form saying your FAGSA application was accepted so that must mean you got paid. All it meant was your institution received an application.

[@eiji862]

There’s plenty of time to submit renewals and applications for financial aid. The system is bullshit because of how expensive everything is. Financial aid is not the problem, the problem is how the loan companies operate. The only real bullshit problem with financial aid is how some of the programs measure who qualifies for their aid. You need to be at a certain level of income to qualify, meaning that if you’re just above it, then you won’t qualify despite the fact that you have no money. Insurance companies and the IRS charge you based on income rather than wealth. Which for the majority of middle class families is complete garbage. The government doesn’t try to differentiate between people barely getting by and people who get to go on vacation every summer. Financial Aid is not that however. And in the state of Maryland, where I reside, our Governor has extended the deadline for Fasfa. Meaning that we now have plenty of time to renew or apply for financial aid. The Financial Aid system is only as hard as you make it for yourself. Just play your cards right and you will be fine for the most part.

[@Cronoistight]

I got accepted to a college years ago. After the first semester, they refused to allow me to continue my studies because I had "insufficient credentials to register" (They claimed I never graduated high school which I did Diploma and all) yet they still took my money from out of pocket for the first semester. American school system is such as sham from start to finish.

[@abeautifulduwang]

well yes obviously, it was meant to be HIGHER education as in an optional thing to make you look better or to specialize in something. Not to be required education and the absolute bare minimum for most employers to even look your way let alone consider you cause everyone else has been to college too

[@kimillionaire]

It's not just America sadly. There was a girl a year or two ahead of me who was going into her third year of law school only to have issues selecting classes. She went to her faculty office who sent to the admin office who then sent her to admissions then to finance only for them to tell her she's not a student there. She had to gather her assignments and tests and receipts to prove she was then they said lol we're not letting you back in law so she tried business but got more run around so she just transferred colleges 😢

[@sugarymushroom]

You can thank Pres. Regan for fucking up the college system in the U.S. To many undesirables going to college, hippies and minorities, and learning enough to finally realize the shit the government was doing was fucked and protesting. Can't have young americans speaking up to the geriactrics in charge. So they tore down the old system where college was dirt cheap, state paid most of the tuition. They made the colleges into minature corporations. You know who has a hated time paying for constantly rising tuition. Less and less hippies and minorities go to college.

[@CherryMoonMaiden]

As an outsider, it looks like the whole of America is a sham, ridiculous minimum wage, no universal healthcare, no sick leave, hardly any PTO (I think you call it) corporations reaming everyone(tho that’s everywhere) n let’s not get into women’s reproductive rights….

[@Cindy99765]

​@@kimillionaire Wait what country is that? Why couldn't she transfer to another law school with her credits?

[@samanthag1922]

oh man, i got secondhand stressed and upset watching this lol. as an autistic person the world kinda feels like this to me all the time, like i’m just expected to magically know things. it’s endlessly baffling and infuriating

[@Thatguy0096]

Do you have sensory issues?

[@littlebear3554]

Same. It's like ok we'll can you help me!? No , you're fucked. Anyway, good luck!

[@caelnhonig69420]

Such a helpful and beneficial system 👍

[@Thehiddenmoran]

I'm actually serious when I say this. This literally happened to me two years ago, which is why I gave up college.

[@eiji862]

I’d try Trade School if I were you. Those programs actually give you higher chance of getting a successful career than any college can. The biggest problem with college is that only a select few degrees will guarantee you a job that will pay well. Liberal art degrees are practically worthless in this world. Unless you’re talented and very lucky.

[@SolidSnake59]

Sorry to hear that. It sounds like total bs to me.

[@blackdiamond9]

You could also look into a Architect, Interior designer, graphic designer etc....or if you can handle medical, something like nursing? Most hospitals will pay for your schooling.

[@lynettefinnigan9540]

Yep, the rich don't want poor people working their way up to their level if they've got brains but no money, funny though, if they got money and no brains, the world is their oyster still!!

[@AuntieCrabCakes]

Same thing happened to me 10 years ago. Such bullshit

[@anakin50137]

Similar thing happened to me last year. Financial aid didn't hit my account by the time the school needed it and i was dropped from all my classes, no warning, no nothing, just showed up for class and suddenly wasn't on the roll call. Finally got it fixed after raising 9 kinds of hell in the financial aid office, they blamed it on a failure of communication between the admissions and financial aid departments. Thankfully they seemed to have learned their lesson, now whenever a student has guaranteed aid they are put on a special type of hold that prevents the school from automatically dropping them.

[@origindivaz09]

Where did you go to school? That has always been policy for the schools I go to. If you’re getting financial aid they tell you to ignore the payment deadlines because you’re covered and just go to your classes.

[@Makkyddd]

Glad you taught them what SHOULD be automatic!

[@geekume5539]

Same thing happened to me

[@aricalamari]

Good on you for fighting for yourself.

[@lynettefinnigan9540]

It's like they don't want intelligent people to get a good education if they are from poor families, there's always the small print that screws you over!!!!😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@marcusweathers3070]

College is a scam.

[@GoVocaloider]

That's cause it's not about intelligence, it's about keeping rich people in power. Otherwise, education wouldn't have a paywall.

[@julieanna2228]

It’s not small print if you watch the show. She ignored emails and tons of very large posters all over the college.

[@sadjaxx]

They have to keep.space for the dumb rich kids.

[@redditrepo473]

That logic is just as bad as "the poor family didn't want the tuition enough to read the fine print". Leniency should absolutely be provided in these situations, but to blame an already flawed system with things that actually AREN'T issues clog up lawmakers

[@lathe1233]

Can't say for everyone but I had to meet with my academic counselor every semester and we went over my degree plan and stuff like this. I didn't really know anything about college going in because I was the first in my family to go. It was definitely helpful.

[@belladolce85]

My mom spent every New Year’s Day for 4 years doing my FAFSA god bless her

[@minervasanchez8431]

Show:The middle

[@babu_moshai]

Thanks

[@CharveeLegacy]

Thank you 😊

[@chxerry.x7537]

thanks!

[@christinebrito9644]

On where?

[@benjamincervantes1497]

Every year it was this bullshit even if I had everything filled in on time. Bc they required a deposit. I was on a full academic scholarship. I signed up for classes, then I’d get the drop for non-payment, then I’d have to go in person for them to say there was nothing they could do because the scholarship will only disperse after the first day of the semester. Meanwhile I’ve been dropped from all my courses. Later to be told the scholarship will also not disperse if I don’t have a course load.

[@AnastasiaBeaverhousn]

Dude!!! 😮‍💨😩🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 WTF 🤦🏿‍♀️🤪👀🧐🫣🙃💔💔💔💔

[@thaddeuszukowski4633]

That's some ugly Catch 22

[@valermink]

Wow. absolutely unbelievable…

[@slam6802]

Weird. I had a full ride as well and never had this problem

[@joannakuyt1512]

That sounds like the office staff and the university are not doing their jobs properly and they might have been very biased. I hate being the one telling you this but it sounds like really biased treatment in an attempt to get you to quit.

[@KayleeANNAytbe]

Education should be accessible for everyone...

[@CharveeLegacy]

That's why Im happy to live in Denmark

[@BorisHrenPopadesh]

What do you mean? There is no free education in your country?

[@jtowensbyiii6018]

​@@BorisHrenPopadeshin America education costs 10-400x as much as most countries of equal status, American greed loves to punish the pool and needy

[@CharveeLegacy]

@@BorisHrenPopadesh are yo asking me?

[@LilTurtle353]

That's the best part, it is "accessable" barely. If she renews, and qualifies, and gets it in by the deadline then she can technically get an education but gotta make her jump through hoops first cause poor people are circus animals

[@LT_1856]

I was on my own at 18. I had a single mom who didn’t go to college and couldn’t afford to send me. I got myself into college and got a full-time job to pay my own way. I lived WELL below the poverty line. I went to the financial aid office and they wouldn’t help me. At 18, 19, 20, I was still considered my mother’s dependent and wasn’t allowed to apply for aid based on MY salary. I wept in that office. They didn’t give a shit. They told me if I didn’t like it, then I could change my dependent status by getting married or getting pregnant. Basically, I was trying to make the right choices and better myself, and my school was only willing to help me IF I’d be willing to fuck up my life. Nice

[@matthewnations5237]

I hate the American education system so much.

[@bob101nano2]

This is college, not public school

[@Bigfudge2429]

Yes which as they stated resides in america ​@@bob101nano2

[@mangjitnijjhar1390]

Then you hate freedom. Cry harder from your "calm you nissed" country 😂. This is literally the best system in the world. Why should the poor get anything for free? I had to work hard for my parents to give me a $500k passive income logging forest and houses. Do you know I had to sand and paint the walls of their houses all summer before they'd give that to me? Unlike some people, I know the value of hard work. Maybe if you just filed an LLC and built an innovative website instead of complaining then you could collect passive income and be rich too! What's your excuse?

[@manicmax7909]

I had a very similar situation to this and had to drop out at 19 :(

[@happycowasmr5591]

Me too :( I’m sorry

[@marsjade-rr6sv]

😅 where my college drop outs @? 😢 sad but not sorry tbh

[@notcarsonn]

just had to drop out at 19 because my financial aid got messed up🤦🏽‍♂️

[@xxawesomedxx]

​@notcarsonn so bc you didnt read the terms and conditions of your financial aid? Stop blaming everyone but yourself.

[@drpeppersnumber1fan]

@@xxawesomedxx sthu ppl like you are so annoying

[@theonionqueen3519]

I’m so unbelievably fortunate that my parents saved meticulously since the day I was born so I could go to college without any debt. I know it’s way more complicated than just saving up, but if you have kids, I recommend opening a savings account just for college as early as possible. America is a fucked up country that hates poor people, and the American college/university complex is evil.

[@dorimosher9800]

I had six kids who I made sure would get scholarships. They all have scholarships and FAFSA.

[@alderorion40]

America doesn’t hate poor people and you can get the hell out of my country for speaking like that. Few places are the poor treated so well. I’ve had friends go to ivy leagues on full merit and need based scholarships.

[@MangindDerous]

​@@alderorion40 my friend, I'm not American, but i do and have always loved the American landscapes, all the American theater, cinema, music ive experienced, and ⁹7-98% (there are some dickheads in any group) of the American people ive had the pleasure of meeting... but although the majority of Americans may not hate poor people, the majority of your elected representatives and the richest 1-2% of the population that fund their campaigns and spend billions lobbying them - DO rally appear to not only hate poor people but are actively building systems to keep them that way... your medical, insurance, legal and education systems are all either completely screwed or close to it because of the way you've let yourselves become so divided over things that don't matter. And what's worse is I remember a time when the USA really was the UNITED States of America but you've let the rich 1% who incidentally own and control all if the Media, News and Information sources you get divide you into so many groups that shouldn't matter - i remember when you were just American - now your a straight gay white black cis trans latino Christian Jewish Muslim east coast west coast northern southern left right Republican democrat conservative liberal etc etc American and I'm not saying those things aren't important but you used to be American first and all those other descriptors were secondary didn't divide you if you weren't the same now all those otherthings come first and being American an afterthought - your government and your richest want you divided like that because it makes it easier for them to keep screwing you over and the craziest part for me is watching every group blame every other group for the problems instead of stepping back and realizing the problems are largely manufactured by the rich and powerful to keep taking more for themselves and making the rest of you fight over the scraps that leave (except Floridians - cause lets be honest they're a special case)

[@theonionqueen3519]

@@alderorion40 “Get the hell out of my country” 😂

[@theonionqueen3519]

@@dorimosher9800 but they shouldn’t NEED scholarships in order to have a good education.

[@lisamercer9517]

When I say this show taught me to be on top of reapplying for FAFSA!! I feel that "poor enough" 😭

[@emm21118]

What show is it?

[@kenshin5150]

​​@@emm21118 the Middle. One of the best series for the family.

[@kenid0t]

The Middle. NGL but I always though the middle was very similar to Malcom in the middle and I love both shows though

[@yanaomda]

Thank you youtube for more motivation to apply for universities in Spain

[@MarceloGrisa]

The system is not failing. The system is working exactly as intended.

[@mefisto123456789]

Yeah if you are to stupid to file few paper forms on time to renew your financial aid you definitely don’t belong to college.

[@aspecttnd]

This literally happened to me this year as a junior in college, I had to go home. Worst setup ever

[@jordaniif3626]

And I have people in my country wishing THIS kind of education system?! 🤦‍♂️ They do seriously deserve the government we have 🙄

[@MsEmilylovesya]

My sis was told by a counselor she was good to go for next semester with the classes she planned to enroll, fast forward to that next semester and she finds out she was missing a prerequisite for one of the classes, this held her back a full semester. I had the opposite experience, my counselor after looking at my transcript realized I was halfway through finishing a minor I wasn’t enrolled in, I got enrolled and added that minor to my degree. You really have to be careful with deadlines, financial aid, and counselors. You can’t always trust they know everything, double check everything yourself

[@ArtoriasB]

Same thing happened to me! I went over everything with my counselor, she told me everything was good. Find out later that she lied and I was actually short a few credits and had to take another semester.

[@UnicornsPoopRainbows]

This. I had 3 different counselors for my major program within 3 years. I don't know why they kept quitting or were moving around but it was a consistent "I think this is right, let me check it again" I get my major wasn't very popular but you'd think they'd actually be more in the loop than the students

[@MsEmilylovesya]

@@UnicornsPoopRainbows maybe I’m giving too much grace but the counselors I spoke with did seem like they had to be knowledgeable in a LOT of majors, like all of liberal arts perhaps, so you’re right they’d often state something and then they’d check the paperwork to be sure they were correct 😂 they would even tell you too to double check everything yourself to be absolutely sure. But I do always mention that minor addition story as far as counselors because that was genuinely impressive the counselor picked up I was well on my way to finishing it when I wasn’t even enrolled in the minor, I wouldn’t have done that minor unless I spoke to that counselor, I had no idea about it as it wasn’t connected to my major

[@tinydancer7426]

Get signatures too. On a formal document. Document. Document. Document. Hell, in today's world, whip out your cell phone and record them signing the document(s). And record a voice confirmation. and then insist on a computer printout that matches and confirms the documentation and verbal statement captured in a recording.

[@swrry_bae1012]

thats fucking insane, i still cant believe yall dont have public 100% FREE NO TUITON universities

[@crs290]

This girl did, but couldn't be bothered to renew her financial aid.

[@coalkingryan881]

@@crs290financial aid is not no tuition. You still very much have to pay all that back eventually

[@swrry_bae1012]

@crs290 in my country we don't need to do that, like we genuinely study for free ! you only need this type of financial aid if you choose a private university

[@swrry_bae1012]

@coalkingryan881 yeah in mu country we cont need to pay unless if we choose a private university or if we don't pass the public university test

[@crs290]

@@coalkingryan881 Financial aid is very much made up of grants and subsidies. Financial aid is not loans.

[@XOXODANiE]

This is so real. I had to miss a week of classes because financial aid was $1k short covering tuition. I had to write to the dean and admin to return.

[@FoxVyars]

It makes so much sense the computer screen has Indiana State on it.

[@FIRING_BLIND]

Thats a lie. The deadline is always literally at the end of that whole school year. You can apply for aid during the year

[@chikki2597]

Some colleges have different deadlines and won't accept it . other have a deadline, but you can still renew it, and they do accept it. All this depends on state and college.

[@markdasaro9045]

The deadline is with the state it's literally at the year but they tried to bulshit you to get money out of you.

[@ms.j6425]

Or you can still apply, but still.must wait to get fin aid. It's horrible.

[@ideologicallychallenged]

no. youre wron​g. the deadline for FAFSA is July 30th of the Spring Semester for all semesters within that academic year. I applied for aid very late in the year and they reimbursed me for summer, fall and spring semesters. I go to a state university. @chikki2597

[@siryarianthefirst3360]

@@chikki2597 yeah and payment is due by a certain time so if you miss it, your classes are getting dropped

[@farrahfarmer9287]

I got my ex step fathers income count against my financial aid it was dropped.

[@zahara7785]

Same. My mom got married to him 2 months before I applied. AND she didn't even raise me, I was a ward of the court for the last 2 years of high school. But because I was in a group home and not foster care, I didn't get any extra help or aid AND my mom's and step Dad's income counted towards my financial aid.

[@siryarianthefirst3360]

@@zahara7785 how did that happen? you’re not even under their care 🤦‍♀️ and you couldn’t select foster care because it wasn’t? but it technically was, that’s messed up

[@alyssahuffman9315]

@@siryarianthefirst3360it doesn’t matter, I have friends in college and some of them haven’t even seen their parents since before puberty and yet financial aid found their information and said they’re parents make to much money so they can pay for it even though the parents have no contact with them 😢 it’s really unfortunate

[@Mtt-c1h]

Such a disrespect for people struggling to try to get a decent job after studying

[@democatto]

Man this brings back. There's nothing you can argue to this bunch of greedy and soulless business people. That said, the best thing in higher education system are lecturers that actually cares and friends in classes. 2 of my professor tried their best to fight for me to take a course that I failed to pay tuition before deadline, they still couldn't, I really appreciate them to try

[@Pransie]

She should’ve been responsible, I had to renew mine every year, and I’d set myself a reminder one month before so I’d do it in time.

[@Bubbles-kk9zs]

Had something similar happen to me. I almost cried myself into a hospital. THANKFULLY, the financial aid office realized THEY made a mistake. I got a $600 gift card to the book store and was able to buy all my books that semester. Including the almost $400 Psychology book 😅.

[@TamarMebonia]

ONE of your textbooks alone cost $400??? This is so horrible. Can they at least be found in a library?

[@Crownslayer013]

I agree what the fuck is that robbery? My most expensive book was 40€​@@TamarMebonia

[@Bubbles-kk9zs]

@@TamarMebonia nope. That was the thing. That professor and a few others refused to give resources to us students about WHERE to buy the book. Couldn't find it at my local library branches or book stores. Some books, by professors, they ONLY sold in the school store. I made photo copies of the chapters I needed from friends or classmates who would let me borrow their books. The library allowed for 10 first pages free and every page after that 0.05 cents. Saved me lots of money, but I have horror stories about paper cuts. So many paper cuts.

[@Bubbles-kk9zs]

@@Crownslayer013 You would have HATED the accounting classes. Had two friends taking the course, a year apart, so the first one had NO choice but to buy the books: 4 totalling about $900. The most expensive was a $600 book that they used for only half a semester. She sold the whole bundle for like $200 to the other friend who was stressed out about having money for books. It was a rough first few years for all of us.

[@rakkis1576]

Damn. Ngl I really feel so blessed that my uni over in Malaysia just gave us a bunch of slides. Never had to buy a single textbook the entire time I was there. Granted, this was computer science. Medical and law likely have textbooks, bit I wouldn't know.

[@lismarisoto3979]

The way she said “JUST” need to write a check for the WHOLE YEARS tuition is crazy when she just said her family was poor enough for 4 years

[@brim3439]

College is so stressful. I had to register for a capstone that was 2 credits so I ended up taking 17 instead of 18 and I lost my scholarship, even after maintaining the requirements for 3 years. Just because I had to take a mandatory end of program capstone course 🙃 So that next semester, I applied for a lot of study abroad scholarships and studied in Korea (saving myself $1,500 as opposed to going back to the US campus)

[@littlebear3554]

Wouldn't it be impossible to study in South Korea with a learning disability? The math there is much harder and the way they solve problems makes zero sense.

[@swaydutwa9596]

As a student worker in the financial aid office at my university (in the US), yes, you have to renew your FAFSA (the financial aid application) every year, HOWEVER, there is no “deadline.” You are welcome to fill out the form at any point throughout the school year (be careful about dates towards the end), just know that depending on when you fill it it out can result in payment delays, assuming you are eligible and have accepted any aid that needs accepting (i.e. loans)

[@umarhussain3732]

😮 july 15th that's my birthday 🎉😅😂😊❤

[@patriciajump9511]

YES!!!! This is real! This was my experience!!! The complications were endless!

[@notsoheroiclink3020]

This fills me with so much anger as someone who was also burned by the education system. 🙃

[@Idkanymorehonestly11]

Exact same thing everyone ik and myself are going through with college, wasn’t like this when I went a couple years ago wtf happened in 3 years bruh 😂😂😂

[@samm8697]

Man “The Middle” was a great show, wish it was still on the air 😂

[@darko-man8549]

At my university (in the UK), I had stayed for my MSc I would pay half the tuition myself and half on loan. The loan came in three loads. The university didn’t pay attention to the notes I wrote and stated that I was considered full payment myself. So, they locked me out the system halfway through the year, after I had already had a phone call explaining the situation and forced me to pay the rest of the fees plus a £100 late fine or else I could not submit any more work

[@chyane2314]

This just reminded me to check fasfa luckily it won’t be open until December

[@zoerimel3920]

Surprisingly, this actually happens. This happened to me and a few of my classes were dropped before the semester even started. The system had made mistake and I had done nothing wrong. Thankfully I caught it in time, and I was still able to get more classes. It was insane though.

[@Lycanthromancer1]

What do you mean "surprisingly"? Anyone in the US over the age of 16 should know about this by now.

[@daveo1002]

One of the many relatable trials and tribulations of Sue Sue Heck. Every story has ups and downs, but her story arc had so many more downs than ups. Her amazing positive attitude throughout it all is something to aspire to.

[@lamoskgr]

Name of the show?

[@BrotherCarver]

My college was a lot more accommodating, but that was because they have less than 1,000 students, so they needed to try to keep whoever they could. Even when I left the college for an education break, they were actively reminding me to set up a payment plan for tuition up to every deadline. Even though I already had my classes dropped and everything squared away with the school.

[@invoke4485]

In my uni, they gave me the wrong course code and then said I couldn't apply as I had missed the deadline and gave the wrong details, even though the uni gave me the details.

[@igorsoares5036]

I once got denied my tuition by the school, I got the tuition but they didn’t accept it because I was under 21 and my parents were not citizens/were not in the US. Best thing was that they told me when the semester was over and they were sending my bill to collection :)

[@JamesonJonas]

So what happened to the money?

[@r.j.9822]

Literally dropped out of college because my sister went to college before my mom changed her last name, and apparently the system and no one in it could help me. They said I’d have to create a new account for my mom, but i couldn’t because it was the same social security number still, so they said they could just erase her old account, but then they accidentally banned it so I couldn’t use her social security card for a financial aid program and since I wasn’t old enough I legit couldn’t do anything about it.

[@tyeshiataylor]

Name of show?

[@abandonedgod]

College, one big scam.

[@olliesjoblom]

I feel like I’m getting Deja Vu because this exact thing happened to me almost verbatim. School advisors didn’t get back to me for two weeks and I ended up having to apply for classes the same day they started

[@AnastasiaBeaverhousn]

So you paid out of pocket

[@chrissyellem7397]

I had this issue in the 80's. Had to prove I was NA every year like I would automatically transform into another ethnicity lmao. I was a stickler on that renewal though.

[@loftysalex]

These exact situations are what caused me to lose a full ride scholarship and my only chance at university!!!! YIPPIEE!!!!!!!! Now I’m back at being broke while paying for technical!!!! I love these systems!!!!!!!

[@WendyDarling1974]

I’m 50 and I still have nightmares about this scenario. Didn’t happen to me, but it could have.

[@Tinmann_77]

That's why you are supposed to read all the instructions and talk to the administration staff to make sure you are doing everything you need to do to make other people pay for your continuing education.

[@otie9237]

They kinda fuck you with conditional shit IRL - we require up front payment - I have government-backed financial aid - that wasn't applied for a 2nd time But no one mentions / mentioned needing to reapply when it's a multi-year thing you're applying to pay for the first time. Like with a bank and a house or a car, it's assumed or understood it's gonna take several years / it's a multi-year thing. With school, they kinda force multiple years, even though, technically, since your whole life is about that 1 thing (school) you could do a 6-year Master's degree's worth of classes and work in 1 year. But the financial side somehow treats it like it's a per year thing, even though (in North America) it's a 4 year thing.

[@kilerog]

It's definitely mentioned. It's in the paperwork that you get. You have to be sure to read all those terms carefully to not miss stuff like this because it is literally the source of your money.

[@otie9237]

@@kilerog I don't know if I've ever gotten paperwork for being employed lol I took papers to them for banking deposits, and once every couple jobs I have to sign my name saying I'll come to a certain building at a certain time (hours?) But I haven't received papers

[@meredithr9824]

I don't miss college. At all.

[@jasonuchiha3748]

This whole process can last either an entire day or 2 weeks

[@ideologicallychallenged]

yea, usually takes no more than two weeks for FAFSA.

[@nownotavailable]

As a current college student depending on financial aid to get me through these four years, this video made my stomach squeeze into a knot, this situation has appeared in my nightmares too many times

[@McGlovin96]

A lot of people are dealing with that where i am. Look up North Idaho College discreditation. They wronged so many studets. Passed those who shouldnt (i had several people in my class due to bumping grades), looked passed those who needed help and did not inform their future students. As a graduate from ths community College. I should have had to retake a few classes, which fafsa and scholarships could/would have paid for.

[@91rummy]

Sometimes I don’t understand if the system and government are made for the people or the people are supposed to live and work by the system and for the system!! Isn’t the system made by us to make our lives more orderly and helpful to our lives? Especially to those who work hard and deserve the support? I don’t understand these ridiculous rules..

[@kilerog]

This is a private university. They are a business. The students are their customers. It's not by the people and for the people. It's, "if you cannot pay, then I am not selling." If you are talking about FAFSA--the government financial aid. The renewal is important because people's financial status changes. Each year, she has to provide updated information. Yes, she qualified for four years of financial aid initially. But what if she drops out of school? Or only takes part-time classes? Or takes a semester off? Or dies? Or wins the lottery? The government wants to be aware of all these things before it disperses money for another year of tuition.

[@peaceout8230]

@@kilerog yes but in that case should not we help students and actually NOTIFY them about these stuff via automated mail or call or message?? Like sure, I agree u should update your status aka renew it, but it could be also helpfull to notify ppl about renewal.

[@ShamsaA-k5s]

What is the name of the series

[@lexytomasella9404]

I’m pretty sure it’s called the middle

[@veraa91]

Malcom in the middle

[@ShamsaA-k5s]

@@veraa91it’s worng but it’s called the middle

[@drofpercussion1700]

So even tho she got the 4-year package YOU STILL HAVE TO RENEW IT EVERY YEAR THAT IS BS

[@bluz1864]

Yeah. I don't get the logic either

[@AlexanderTheBloodraven]

This is not a problem in my own country of Sweden. Our education is completely free and paid for by the state.

[@Leffrey]

I remember first signing up for Uni here in Germany. To get into uni I needed to show proof that I was ensured as a student. To ensure myself as a student I had to show I'm in a Uni. Luckily it worked itself out, but you'd think they'd manage to streamline a process like this after many decades and thousands of students coming and going

[@kennysanchez1381]

So they failed to notify her of financial help renewal then didn't notify the she needed to pay tuition or she'd lose her classes

[@kilerog]

This assumes they failed to notify her that the renewal period was coming up rather than them sending her a letter or email, and her ignoring it because she assumes she's already covered. Her initial financial aid package should have also informed her of the need to renew. This is why you always need to read these documents super carefully to make sure you do not miss any important terms of your financial aid.

[@starchrissy6084]

This happened to my but I realized it when I looked at my bill getting changed in the middle of the semester. I went up there and they changed my financial aid to dependent even though my independent status hasn't changed. Turns out it was because the government thought my mother was alive. She died 2 years ago.... At 32. (I was independent before cuz I was word of the state) It got fixed immediately when I brought in my mother's ashes to the financial aid office and her death certificate.

[@Slav_Stiibun]

I've been the last behind the desk. No matter what pur department told the school no one would listen to us about updating our website or having notifications sent to students about renewing FAFSA or when payment deadlines were. Honestly felt horrible for students who believed they were set for their college career.

[@nealmorgan9037]

This is why as an American, alongside dozens of other demoralizing reasons, I will not be pursuing college here in the states.

[@cassygarcia2964]

Hate this because I was struggling the day I found out that something was wrong in my financial aid, and it made me pay out even more out of pocket. At the time, my dad was the only one that worked, and I got help with my financial aid on a community college workshop. Even after I saw how much I’ll be paying, I had to drop out of Uni. I was crying and my family felt so bad because they had to come pick me up while I had to say goodbye to my friends and wasted a month of studying, school, and money.

[@LilFletch926]

This is a life lesson that is very useful - it stretches far beyond just education. Always save "receipts" - always make sure you cya by having backup proof to use. Teaches you organization skills too. It might seem frustrating but at the end of the day, it's your responsibility.

[@adamisty5697]

Exactly why it’s bs to go to college unless you ARE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN on what you want to do. Otherwise good luck digging yourself out of the hole you created.

[@joelynnmccoy9977]

what is this?

[@fanofmany71]

US is crazy with tuition... but unless you live in poverty, there is NO excuse why you can't save up for your kids' tuition in Canada. Too many kids - that was your choice and your kids should not suffer. If you were able to go on vacations, own a car, have smartphone(s), get lessons for your kids, or anything that your disposable income went towards, it is ABSOLUTELY the parents' or parent's fault for not saving up in Canada. You do NOT need to be rich to learn how to save before/after having kids. You just need to make wise spending and saving choices - so yes, kids, blame your parents. But those whose parents were living in poverty should absolutely get financial aid and it shouldn't have to be difficult.

[@eduardobraga9216]

Graças a Deus nasci no Brasil 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@robm8897]

The rest of the world is laughing at us while we ask our 17-year-olds to take out loans in amounts equivalent to those needed for a small house.

[@URKingKitty2889]

Yeah I got dropped off from my uni 4 years scholarship as well because the renewal system that fking unnecessary whatsoever. 🎉

[@rustinstardust2094]

The community college I attended only allowed you to call to reach a counselor one day a week between like 5 AM and 7 AM. So EVERYONE is calling then, and you can never get through. Why is college administration such a joke?

[@whitewatcher85]

Most important lesson at a university. You can forget the analytical approaches to differential equations right after the exam, but never forget how to navigate in a hostile administration!

[@DI-ry1my]

A lot of schools want you to pay in advance and then reimburse you when the financial aid kicks in. They make it so the easiest way is to get a loan because it’s the only reliable way to have the funds by the payment deadline. My community college lets me make payments throughout the semester, which is 4 months long. So I pay 1/4 per month.

[@itsdillon1217]

Man, Sue always had the worst luck. Used to watch this show with my family every Wednesday

[@immortalsofar5314]

It's endemic in the whole of society. I had a parking company insist I should pay a fine for a spot I paid for because I didn't appeal it within 30 days. I'm moving to a less "developed" country.

[@crimsonscarlett9904]

I remember I once had an issue of randomly getting dropped from a class and when I went in person to report and get an explanation for the issue I was moved here and there by 3 sets of people telling me different ways to handle the situation and to this day I have now clue why I was randomly dropped. The good news is that since I was dropped before the official day of record and was pretty early on I had no financial problems but bad news I had to reapply for the class

[@krulen12]

Which show is this?

[@iceyr]

Name of show or movie?

[@DarkWidow1110]

I had something similar happen with me, I took summer classes and told right after the deadline to drop without needing payment that my financial aid was revoked. When originally I was told that financial aid would cover the classes.

[@j.w.31]

Exactly what Big Education is like

[@robertdiehl4384]

What show is this?

[@raymondmesa8258]

Sounds about right that’s how those crocks get you. Four year package needs to be renewed every year sounds pointless!

[@aajpeter]

The university rewrote their website after I called them on their own policies around crap like this. So that they could get away with it of course not so that they could improve their processes to be less awful and dehumanizing.