Find the stronghold with a slab [Minecraft 1.8 only]

nieuh just got a 3:57 stronghold enter with this method in a speedrun! See it in action: www.twitch.tv/...
A pretty interesting strategy I found 2 weeks ago.
Originally bug discovery by test137E29:
/ @test137e29
• Long Range Wireless Re...
0:00 Intro
0:33 Showcase
1:42 Explanation
2:07 Example - shared Hitboxes
The pictures and a more detailed explanation: technical-mine...
Theoretically the strat also works in 1.7 and below, but it's a bit more complicated in those versions. You can check out some unlisted videos on my channel: • Collision Entanglement...
Currently the strat is not allowed in speedruns, but might be in the future.

[@Eliotex]

Here you can see the strat in action: www.twitch.tv/videos/1832525202?t=0h29m3s nieuh just got a 3:57 stronghold enter with this slab method.

[@modestMismagius105]

minecraft: locate the stronghold with a single slab terraria: infinite money with one wood block, a sloped platform, and a single crystal shard The past few days have been interesting lol

[@FavoritoHJS]

about terraria... you can get every item with a _campfire_ and some statue shenanigans to stomp over the metadata of other tiles (see: Philosopher's Stone)

[@HassanIQ777]

​@@FavoritoHJS with a f*cking door too💀💀💀🔪

[@AlFredo-sx2yy]

@@HassanIQ777 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@vulpemarine2057]

i just saw the video about that a few minutes ago

[@projlej]

@@HassanIQ777 part 2 on finding hassan on a terraria related comment

[@kemytz]

Incredible discovery

[@sajato4138]

Hi kemytz

[@sophieee.23]

Doogile junior?

[@kemytz]

@@sajato4138 hi

[@HassanIQ777]

Says the one who created the Legendary Kremtyz brdige

[@egghead6958]

Hi kemytz thank you for making kemytz bridge

[@lewismassie]

This hitbox sharing stuff is such an absurdly specific thing and I love it

[@embeddedt]

1.7.10 modder here, another interesting detail about the old hitbox handling is that if I recall correctly the client and server threads both operate off the same fields for the block hitbox. So its possible by looking at the right blocks at the right time other strange behaviors could be discovered. It's impressive Mojang left this in the game for so long after 1.3.

[@Eliotex]

True, I changed the hitboxes once in the video by looking at something. I walked through the anvils at some point, which was the result of that :D You can also change the hitbox by reloading chunks. So technically the version shown in the video works in 1.7 and below as well, but this was a bit too much to cover in 1 video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4HPn2Rprd5kotE

[@king_of_the_sun4897]

Why not just say, “I am a 1.7.10 modder ” instead of “1.7.10 modder here”?

[@cypphi]

@@king_of_the_sun4897 does it really matter to you?

[@kmatias2467]

@@king_of_the_sun4897 why write this comment

[@jr5000pwp]

The hitboxes are one of the strangest things in old versions imo. It took me many failed ladder clutches in beta before I realized that the shape of the ladder hitbox is determined by the orientation of the previous ladder that I placed, so I learned to place a "dummy" ladder in my intended direction before doing the actual ladder clutch to ensure I have the desired hitbox detection. I never actually reverse engineered the code, but I've always had the theory that Mojang was doing some stupid static variable stuff that they weren't resetting/initializing correctly. Very fascinating to learn that there are versions where the hitbox can be manipulated by the environment rather than the player!

[@caspermadlener4191]

I am impressed how players are still finding entirely ways to use old discoveries.

[@kulled]

entirely ways

[@funkytime69]

entirely ways

[@Taha632RMF]

entirely ways

[@toolazytoedit941]

Entirely ways

[@HassanIQ777]

entirely ways

[@raspberryjam]

:O I remember there was a glitch where you could walk through a corner of double chests by looking side to side really fast. And now I know how that worked! Thank you

[@Eliotex]

Cool :D No problem

[@gyroninjamodder]

The classic usage of this bug is wireless redstone usually with a glass pane with a boat on it being pushed by a piston. By shooting another glass pane in the world it causes the boat to fall differently which can be detected.

[@Eliotex]

Only OGs remember this way of wireless redstone :D

[@CraftyMCFish]

Dude that is awesome, I love how I am still learning obscure weird things about this game from years ago.

[@coluix]

ABSOLUTELY INSANE

[@BakeBakePi]

This would be such an interesting strat to do in runs lol. Viewers that don't know how it works would be so confused.

[@Eliotex]

Yeah, you can check out my pinned comment. The player nieuh got a 4 minute stronghold enter with this strategy in a speedrun, which is really fast :D

[@BakeBakePi]

@@Eliotex that's so cool!!!

[@ashanksundaram]

This is actually so incredibly smart bruh how on earth did people even think to discover this LOL

[@loganh2735]

I can’t help but think about the dev’s reaction. This is a perfect storm of minor mistakes and it’s hilarious that it’s even possible.

[@samstade5598]

I remember seeing the fence item elevator in videos as a kid but no one explained how they work. Years later, I do now lmao. This game is wild.

[@PogbaChauve]

How is this man so smart I will get jealous i swear

[@Eliotex]

Other people (for example test137E29) are waaaaay smarter than me, but thx :D

[@PogbaChauve]

@@Eliotex NOIDONTTHINKSO

[@Jacktherippa84]

@@Eliotex Test has been notorious for years and years.. There was once a group called the zipkrowd that used many of the exploits and bugs test figured out. I hope his stuff is rediscovered for this newer wave of minecraft fans.

[@_wetmath_]

you learn something new about minecraft every day

[@virgurilla4084]

WAIT, IS THE FENCE THING WHY ANIMALS KEPT ESCAPING IN WORLDS? WE ALL HAD WATER ELEVATORS AND ANIMALS KEPT GOING THROUGH FENCES AT THE TIME OH MY GOD

[@TheKd8lvt]

That was actually a different bug. If you had a fence on a chunk border, and the chunk with the fence in it got unloaded, an animal could walk into the space where the fence was, and promptly stop being processed. Then, when the chunk got loaded again the animal was inside the fence block, and was free to walk either back into or out of the pen.

[@Eliotex]

@@TheKd8lvt makes sense, thx for the explanation!

[@Christian10aber09]

I don't have a quastion, but the hitbox thing is used in the parkour community commonly known as the chest glitch. You can jump up on chests, you just have to look at a double chest facing in the correct direction.

[@Eliotex]

Yeah, the same thing happens to anvils, which is also pretty interesting for parkour :D

[@jue130]

ohh, so that's why i was always getting stuck inside of chests in multiplayer when walking near them

[@v1x4z]

Oh, so that's how the fence item elevator worked!

[@Eliotex]

yes yes

[@flaireking606]

jus imagine, notch made the cool technique to find them strongholds and he see "so you place a slab and if nearby slab have an item on top you will find a stronghold" cool video ty

[@eighties-u3q]

i have a world in 1.8 but i updated it to 1.16 a month ago and youtube kept recommending me this kind of videos

[@Sirpalmtree1]

🐐

[@RST]

huh; i never knew why before that one weird fence item elevator worked or why is went away

[@garbagedataraccoon]

What the... godspeed, technical Minecraft players. Godspeed.

[@bingusbongus9807]

WOAH!!!! is this actual 1.8??? like "just before the combat update" 1.8 THATS MY FAVORITE VERSION!!!!! THIS IS SO COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Eliotex]

Technically it also works in 1.7 and below as well, but that's a bit more complicated

[@Zorty420]

🤯

[@TheTroll2001]

That is quite incredible

[@spielside8]

That is such a niche bug I love it tho.

[@Crazy_ADHD_Man]

Great explanation with sources no less

[@FavoritoHJS]

so that's why you can sometimes clip through double chests by looking at each half...

[@Eliotex]

Yes exactly

[@Rechenmaschine9752]

really nice to abuse this two glitches like that

[@buzz10014]

so because in 1.8 generation(stronghold torches fall), if theres a stronghold in your render distance you will know by trying to place a slab between a stair and block like shown.

[@Eliotex]

Yes, exactly

[@Tomatobird8]

Is this why my cows always escaped the pen? 😂

[@Eliotex]

That's actually a different bug :D If fences cross a chunk border and you unload one of those chunks, the cows can escape quickly

[@aconnox]

​@@Eliotex that's actually hilarious

[@zalut_sky]

actually wth this is so broken yet so cool

[@joskcito]

Finally!!.... reseting for a 12 eye is viable feelsStrongMan

[@tamoozbr]

Actually, you couldn't activate a 12-eye at all before 1.9

[@qwertydesigns2485]

his "but"s sounds like squidward walking

[@Eliotex]

Hmmmmm

[@LivingWildLive]

Suppose something like this is why you can't place end crystals on top of obsidian with blocks floating on it

[@Eliotex]

Hmm I am not sure whether it's the same glitch. The shared hitbox bug is only present in 1.8 and earlier versions

[@Bizarctic]

[@miigon9117]

Spaghetti code alert!

[@Eliotex]

exactly :D

[@RedstoneFederation]

That's cool!

[@btcmr1235]

Let's go elio

[@Zaxtap]

insane

[@nat_cat2923]

Holy cow

[@HassanIQ777]

Grass is a common name for a group of plants that belong to the family Poaceae. It is a type of flowering plant that is characterized by long, narrow leaves, and it is found in almost every corner of the world. Grass is an incredibly versatile plant that has many uses, including food, landscaping, erosion control, and carbon sequestration. This article will explore the various types of grass, their uses, and why they are important to humans. Types of Grass There are over 10,000 species of grass, and they vary in size, shape, and color. Some of the most common types of grasses include: Bermuda grass: This is a warm-season grass that is commonly used for lawns and sports fields. It is known for its drought tolerance and ability to withstand heavy traffic. Fescue grass: This is a cool-season grass that is commonly used in northern climates. It is known for its shade tolerance and ability to grow in a variety of soil types. Bluegrass: This is a cool-season grass that is commonly used for lawns and golf courses. It is known for its fine texture and dark green color. Zoysia grass: This is a warm-season grass that is commonly used for lawns and golf courses. It is known for its ability to withstand drought and heavy foot traffic. St. Augustine grass: This is a warm-season grass that is commonly used for lawns in southern climates. It is known for its shade tolerance and ability to grow in sandy soils. Uses of Grass Food: One of the most important uses of grass is as a food source. Grasses are the primary food source for many grazing animals, such as cows, sheep, and goats. In addition, many species of grasses are cultivated for their grains, which are used to make bread, cereal, and other food products. Some of the most important grain crops include wheat, rice, corn, and oats. Landscaping: Grasses are also commonly used for landscaping purposes. Grass lawns are a popular feature in many residential and commercial properties, and they are often used to enhance the aesthetic appeal of a property. Grasses can also be used to create decorative borders, ground cover, and erosion control. Erosion Control: Grasses are excellent at stabilizing soil and preventing erosion. Their deep root systems hold the soil in place, and their above-ground foliage helps to absorb rainwater and prevent it from running off. As a result, grasses are often used in reclamation projects to restore degraded land and prevent further soil loss. Carbon Sequestration: Grasses are important players in the global carbon cycle. Like all plants, they use photosynthesis to convert carbon dioxide from the atmosphere into organic matter. However, unlike trees, which store most of their carbon in their woody tissue, grasses store carbon primarily in their roots. This means that grasslands can act as important carbon sinks, helping to mitigate the effects of climate change. Why is Grass Useful to Humans? Grass is an incredibly useful plant that provides a range of benefits to humans. Some of the most important benefits include: Food: As mentioned earlier, grasses are a primary source of food for many grazing animals and humans. Grains such as wheat, rice, corn, and oats are staples in many human diets and provide essential nutrients such as carbohydrates, protein, and fiber. Erosion Control: Grasses are essential for stabilizing soil and preventing erosion. This is especially important in areas that are prone to flooding or landslides, where soil loss can lead to property damage, loss of farmland, and even loss of life. Carbon Sequestration: Grasslands are important carbon sinks that help

[@Eliotex]

okay thanks.

[@bringbackdislikes3195]

Touch grass bro

[@Eliotex]

@@bringbackdislikes3195 I already touched grass today, but I can do it again so you're satisfied :)

[@bringbackdislikes3195]

@@Eliotex Thanks!

[@Eliotex]

@@bringbackdislikes3195 :*

[@freezingfire3157]

wow just wow

[@polyquadratus5304]

Is this legal for glitchless?

[@Eliotex]

Not yet. We still discuss about, whether this should be legal or not

[@linuslucke3838]

​@@Eliotex Well it abuses a bug in Terrain generation purposefully, right? That should make it illegal in RSG if I understand the rules correctly.

[@CTAC_HE_AHAHAC]

forsenCD

[@LeandroZut]

So smart !

[@LeWi100]

Does it make me an OG that i was subscribed before the sprinting video? 😮

[@Eliotex]

Yeah basically. I went from 200 subs to 2000 subs with this video so you're in the top 10% subs

[@igorekudashev]

useless bug, you need to "scan" a huge territory to find the stronghold. It's easier to search it with triangle method, or, at least, with the "x-ray" bug

[@Eliotex]

This method might be allowed in speedruns and in this case the bug is very helpful. I guess you dont know how 1.8 speedruns work. There are videos about it on my channel

[@ac2bn]

I still don't understand how does the ' phase through anvils ' glitch work even learning this, is there an explanation out there? Thanks.

[@Eliotex]

It's quite difficult to explain, but this is probably the best explanation kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2LOoKFrjMarbqssi=aEL5ObHyGKuBL8Rm

[@DarkSpirit64]

Wait, the trick is from test? It's been so long since I hear that name

[@DarkSpirit64]

This trick could be used to teleport from any place in the world, I was very sad when they fixed it

[@GregFRDT]

I don't see how an hitbox glitch can be used to teleport around the world, can you explain what idea you thought of?

[@Eliotex]

@@GregFRDT you can do a pearl hang in your world (have an enderpearl in unloaded chunks for example) and by using the hitbox thing you can load those chunks. So, the enderpearls lands and you get teleported thousends of blocks

[@GregFRDT]

@@Eliotex oh, i didn't realise it loaded cunks

[@DarkSpirit64]

Unfortunately the teleport would trigger if there was a block on the world of the same type as the detector, so it's a hard thing to set up right

[@viktoranderas9541]

I actually saw the old video but I didn't subscribe then. But at least I subscribed now lol.

[@Eliotex]

Nice, thx :D

[@hp824_]

Weliotex

[@theZensored]

tf this is (close to) gamebreaking o.O you may have just revolutionised 1.8 speedrunning

[@Eliotex]

We're still not entirely sure, whether this strategy should be allowed in speedruns or not. It technically also works in 1.7 and below and would have such a huge impact

[@blacklight683]

Sometimes I ask myself how the fok did this happen like obviously they made all same blacks have hit box's for preference, but how does that explain this weird behaviors

[@Eliotex]

The item in the stronghold updates the slab hitbox to a lower slab hitbox all the time. When you place a slab, the game wants to place a lower slab, but later it realizes that's not even possible, because you collide with the slab

[@blacklight683]

@Eliotex yeah that was kinda clear but the fence why do they flip between being a block and not?

[@Eliotex]

@@blacklight683 the item updates all hitboxes when it goes through the first fence. The first fence is not a full block (intended), but this also causes the 2nd fence to not be a full block. It's quite difficult to explain, but maybe the link in the description can help you a bit

[@Moooosha]

nice

[@user-hz4tc2pf3x]

Dude, I made optimization mods for 1.8 and I don't understand what is happening

[@Eliotex]

That's how it goes :D Shared hitboxes are insanely difficult to understand. Maybe this link from the description might help you haha technical-minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Hitboxbug

[@aqwaa3057]

Joa würde ich jetzt nicht "locate" nennen. Eher dass man weiß, dass sich innerhalt von einer gewisser Render Distance ein Stronghold befindet. Da geht es dann doch schneller einfach ein paar Augen zu werfen.

[@Eliotex]

Es kommt darauf an aus welcher Perspektive es man betrachtet. Für 1.8 speedruns ist das schon sehr krass. Ich habe einen Livestream-Ausschnitt in den Kommentaren angepinnt und da kann man sehr gut sehen wie nützlich (und schnell) die Methode ist :D

[@Eliotex]

Aber klar, in einer normalen Singleplayer-Welt ist die Methode ist wirklich sinnvoll (vielleicht aus Spaß kann man das mal machen)

[@nilamelody]

this only work if the slab position are within render distance? no other way around it?

[@Eliotex]

You can also load the chunks with a chunk loader or detect slabs in the spawn chunks, but apart from that... Yeah it has to be in your render distance

[@dejv184]

The Sky Is blue

[@Eliotex]

Roses are red

[@yyhhttcccyyhhttccc6694]

cool

[@saknprofilimebasma1303]

Pro

[@heyitsanotherben]

I read the wiki page and I get it but also I don’t get it.

[@Eliotex]

It's complicated haha

[@shreshta_yt]

U forgot abt blacksmith

[@Eliotex]

1:28

[@Micunymos0]

a wat

[@moth.monster]

Under communism, we are all forced to share a single hitbox.

[@HassanIQ777]

🤨📸

[@Eliotex]

OUR hitbox

[@GamerXTrip3l]

Hearing a strong accent there, you're European right mate?

[@Eliotex]

Yeah, German haha I try my very best to speak without an accent, but that's basically impossible for me

[@GamerXTrip3l]

Hört man halt gut raus sowas. Sprich trotzdem immer mehr und mehr, dein Englisch ist stabil und verbessert sich nur durchs Sprechen.

[@Eliotex]

@@GamerXTrip3l jaa auf jeden Fall. Mein Englisch hat sich schon enorm durch minecraft verbessert :D

[@GamerXTrip3l]

Ich habs anfangs durch Minecraft und YT besser gelernt als in der Schule, also fühl ich sowas

[@abhijiths5237]

this is not legal in runs right?

[@Eliotex]

It's not legal. The moderators made a poll and most people voted to not allow this strat.

[@ucngominh3354]

hi

[@Eliotex]

Hi

[@totiimizictudor]

Stop using eye of ender Instead build this!

[@SpeedBirb]

this is cheats

[@ODAKAB]

cool but just use an xray at this point, it doesn't make it legit either you do this or feel the state of flip-flops inside ram with your superpowers

[@Eliotex]

Yeah, it's definitely a controversial strategy. Not sure, whether it'll be allowed in speedruns

[@whocares2277]

x-ray is an external mod that changes the way the game is shown to you. Placing slabs is a vanilla game mechanics.

[@starfieldgames5976]

i can’t think of a funny comment because i haven’t slept in 22 hours and i can’t think anymore so just pretend i left a funny comment here

[@Eliotex]

Ok, I'll laugh for you: haha