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Finding Bucks with DEER TRAILS - We spotted Duck Potato (we think?)

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The Hunting Public

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@chadvanorden5602
@chadvanorden5602 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanx for sharing
@nikolasshay4974
@nikolasshay4974 5 жыл бұрын
I know you guys already know about permethrin but a little tip that you may try. You said you take the clothes off and put them in the trunk. What i do is keep a black garbage bag and the can of permethrin in my truck. I put the clothes in there and give it a little spray. Then seal up the trash bag. Killing all the ticks and preventing them from crawling around and getting into other stuff and then getting transported to other areas. Im just super cautious bc here in TX we have that Lone Star tick that makes you allergic to meat...i think id rather die lol
@Bob_Diesel
@Bob_Diesel 3 жыл бұрын
Aaron, when you talk about that stand setup, are you not worried about bumping deer going in to get to the back of that bedding? And are you assuming those bucks are coming from private into public in the morning, or getting up from their beds and traveling up the hill in the morning? Just trying to pick your brain
@brett7794
@brett7794 Жыл бұрын
After u pointed out how many ticks he had on his pants he said he needed some pants like yours what kind of pants do you have? I thought you just sprayed down anything with permethrin and it worked
@zachturner9698
@zachturner9698 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to come hunt with you guys ????????
@troybankert2930
@troybankert2930 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell it’s a buck bed by size compared to a doe bed or is there something else to it?
@ukjw2
@ukjw2 Жыл бұрын
Do you like to stick to these smaller plots of the public land? Rather than the bigger chunks?
@humbleridge4744
@humbleridge4744 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been hunting for years and the things you guys teach amazes me every time. It makes me think about my hunting areas and what I need to learn about them or what I could learn about them. Keep it up
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
humble Ridge Thanks!
@mthompson
@mthompson 5 жыл бұрын
3:30 What you see there in the video is Water Plantain. Arrowhead has basal lobes on the leaf (making them look like an arrowhead)....these are round/obovate. Arrowhead is in the water plantain family though (Alismataceae), and most species in the family have value as food for wildlife and humans.
@jmotox1
@jmotox1 5 жыл бұрын
Is august too late to scout? Will I bump the deer out for hunting season?
@HTH21
@HTH21 6 жыл бұрын
A little tip/trick I like to use regarding the ticks...I always pack a sticky lint roller in my pack or pocket. Especially at the truck/car. If I notice them piling up I run the roller over myself and it takes most of them off. I also do it at the car before changing to help them not transfer over. It’s a must have for early season and summer scouting! Where I’m at, Lyme Disease is very common among ticks.
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea!
@buck19
@buck19 6 жыл бұрын
Thats solid. Also overlapping all your layers, head to toe, where the boots are the outer most layer, is a great physical barrier. They always climb up.
@buck19
@buck19 6 жыл бұрын
Like hat inside neck gaiter inside under shirt (thats inside long underwear tucked into socks) inside outer layer thats tuck into pants tucked into boots. Be sure to go #2 before you suit up.
@philmcafee343
@philmcafee343 6 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it
@philmcafee343
@philmcafee343 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I could post a picture on here. I had a sheet of roller last year while scouting that prob had a thousand ticks on it lol
@Mericangunna
@Mericangunna 3 жыл бұрын
how do you find public land to hunt i cant find any info or maps anywhere. im in south central tennesse (chattanooga)
@wholeass83
@wholeass83 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao I got shims in my windows too
@mossyhornhunter7022
@mossyhornhunter7022 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite channel by far , I hope you guy's never forget your public land roots when the big sponsors come and start using high dollar guides and outfitters like some others have lately. Thanks for keeping it real .
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594 2 жыл бұрын
When hunting public land back in the day (1970's) before electronics (hunting TV) and such... we used to mark gut piles on a real note "pad" carried in an inner pocket. Back then hunting back packs hadn't even caught on yet. We carried everything we needed in the poctets of our red & black checked "WWooolrich"hunting coats.
@carypeaden4147
@carypeaden4147 3 жыл бұрын
Why did Brody have so many ticks on him and you have zero ticks on yours? Had you sprayed your pants with something, or where you just lucky or careful or what?
@gerryg64bowhunt
@gerryg64bowhunt 6 жыл бұрын
Videos like this one are why you guys are a breath of fresh air. You guys have an opportunity to teach woodsmanship and hunting skills to a generation that is not getting it from the Outdoor Channel. Keep the scouting videos coming!!
@markgrenier6787
@markgrenier6787 5 жыл бұрын
I've been in the woods alot.. always learn something from you.. thx
@joerichards3491
@joerichards3491 5 жыл бұрын
Guys, he's just re iterating teaching and videos of Dan Infault of Hunting Beast.com. KZbin is the new way to just make your own video of what the experts have figured out. Purchase Dan Infaults training if you really want to learn it. That's what KZbin is all about, just more theft from kids.
@col8179
@col8179 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Richards shut your shithole clown
@cs-cd7ek
@cs-cd7ek 4 жыл бұрын
@@col8179 hahahaha dying
@joshglaubitz6793
@joshglaubitz6793 6 жыл бұрын
very cool idea to walk the trails... i have a small block of timber that has bedding around so i will be using this in that area.... thanks
@shane31wells
@shane31wells 6 жыл бұрын
Most educational, real word hunting channel on the web!
@drawntowhitetails2903
@drawntowhitetails2903 6 жыл бұрын
Best of luck Corndog!
@roberth1568
@roberth1568 6 жыл бұрын
Spray down with a produce called Sawyers. Really helps with them ticks
@doncook3584
@doncook3584 4 жыл бұрын
Talk about an ah-ha moment. Using ONEX to record trails in order to evaluate probable buck beds. I’m one who has trouble locating public buck beds. Pumped to continue late winter early spring scouting now with purpose vs wander around hoping to pin the tail on the donkey mentality. You guys are money
@enjoytheoutdoors1018
@enjoytheoutdoors1018 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, I always learn something new.
@martinfreitas952
@martinfreitas952 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips Aaron
@sethholland7552
@sethholland7552 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure why I’ve never done this before. This is something I plan on trying on a few public areas down here in Georgia. I’m originally from Ohio, and have found myself stumped on a few properties in Georgia. I think this is a great way to take a step back and reassess some areas where I’m struggling to pinpoint buck bedding and transition areas. Love the show! Big thanks to all of you guys for just being “ real”.
@zeefranx4509
@zeefranx4509 5 жыл бұрын
This helped me with scouting so much. Thanks man. Any other videos about teaching new guys to scout and where to put cameras and stands would be appreciated !
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 5 жыл бұрын
Subscribe to the channel! Trying to put out educational videos as much as possible!
@zeefranx4509
@zeefranx4509 5 жыл бұрын
Oh i subbed as soon as i seen this vid lol. First year bowhunter and first year all public since moving to VA. looking forward to the vids man! Awesome work
@chrisshelden6220
@chrisshelden6220 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! Been wanting a video showing how you all use the maps and scenarios such as trails, wind direction, and bedding. Great for any level of hunter. Much appreciated!
@jonchrzanowski725
@jonchrzanowski725 6 жыл бұрын
Once again never thought of actually mapping deer trails, I always walk them to get an idea of intersecting trails for stand locations but I would always forget how to get back to the spot i wanted to hunt. But with on X there's no more of that, I really love the tracker feature and will definitely be using this method this year. Thanks again for all your videos and great information.
@jwayno2550
@jwayno2550 6 жыл бұрын
Jon Chrzanowski I love onx but becareful with the tracking feature i lost over 100 miles of saved tracks everytime i went shed hunting i would use it and make those one color, hunting trips were another , property lines, deer trails, scouting trips you can make them all different and i relied on it to much. I saved new stand locations and camera locations, and one night the app asked to run an update which i did and when i opened the app i lost everything. I am a paying customer and i tried contacting them many times with out any reply. At the same time many people were leaving comments in the ratings and they to had the same issue.
@christianskibinski337
@christianskibinski337 6 жыл бұрын
Another great informative video! As always, you truly learn more watching one video from your site than all outdoor channel videos combined.
@boomerrangerron
@boomerrangerron 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are great and I’ve learned more in the past three videos about how to better use my OnX Map system. Would love to see you do one where you go into your stand in the dark using the device!
@jackmorrison4382
@jackmorrison4382 5 жыл бұрын
Great video series
@jeff32689
@jeff32689 6 жыл бұрын
These videos are awesome. This is exactly what I was hoping to see you guys do. The information in this one video going to help a lot of us out. Thank you!
@robertduguay689
@robertduguay689 6 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual thanks. Wish you the best Broody. Take care.
@brandonlawhon2097
@brandonlawhon2097 4 жыл бұрын
How did I not ever think to map out my deer trails like that??? It'd definitely help make way more sense of the areas I hunt here in MO. Thank you for a great video fellas. I just discovered this channel a couple of days ago.
@chasesimmons6451
@chasesimmons6451 6 жыл бұрын
I’m here in central MS and I’ve always hunted small private tracts where food plots and stands are already placed. I know I haven’t and many other hunters i know haven’t really went out on a piece of public and really scouted and “put the pieces together”. This is really interesting channel and sparking interest in me to go out on public tracts of land.
@stevehuecker642
@stevehuecker642 6 жыл бұрын
Super informative! I like how you take things we should all know and bring them to light!
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve! How do you like that shirt?
@stevehuecker642
@stevehuecker642 6 жыл бұрын
I love the shirt and the hat! The shirt is super light and comfortable. Especially when it is hot out!
@ILhunter23
@ILhunter23 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Next year will be my first year hunting ever and I’m soaking in all this info . Hopefully I can harvest a deer.
@thereelaccountant9246
@thereelaccountant9246 5 жыл бұрын
How do you get this info on your computer? Do you have to download onXmaps on your computer as well?
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 5 жыл бұрын
Dominik Wilson no you should be able to download the app on your phone and login on your computer using a user/password on their website
@osbornoutdoors8778
@osbornoutdoors8778 6 жыл бұрын
Great info guys, thanks👍
@jamesgentry6864
@jamesgentry6864 6 жыл бұрын
great video guys good luck this fall!
@davetoms63
@davetoms63 6 жыл бұрын
Hey guys how about a video on what you do for ticks? With lymes running rampant a good detailed video of how you treat clothes and preventive methods should be great.
@russbatzer6970
@russbatzer6970 6 жыл бұрын
great video, very informative, like always. 👍👍 never thought of mapping out runways. best of luck to Brody
@dalet6250
@dalet6250 6 жыл бұрын
Great information as usual. Best of luck to Brody!
@mikefeaster8827
@mikefeaster8827 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, with some very helpful information. I love these types of videos it's helped me fine tune a few if my spots.
@Bowhunt_276
@Bowhunt_276 6 жыл бұрын
Love the scouting videos, I’ll be trying to hunt public land in VA this year for the first time. Trying to soak up all I can!! I keep going back watching all the old vids waiting on new ones!! Keep it coming!!
@buck19
@buck19 6 жыл бұрын
For finding trails without electronics we use reflective thumbtacks. Its a good practice if you depend on electronics.
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594 2 жыл бұрын
..... everybody else can follow your thumb tack trail right to your favorite spot too !
@supermoto3453
@supermoto3453 5 жыл бұрын
what app do you use?
@DaddysLife
@DaddysLife 6 жыл бұрын
O thank goodness you got those shims!!!! Sheeww weeee lol. Awsome tips and strategy’s !!!!’
@TheMatthewKline
@TheMatthewKline 6 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. I have scouted spots that look good but would love to have you guys with me to explain WHY they're good and how to setup. I usually pick up a tip or two from each video, thanks
@thesupremefishingteam585
@thesupremefishingteam585 6 жыл бұрын
Soo insightful
@timbo6082
@timbo6082 6 жыл бұрын
Crazy! I was literally just explaining this scouting technique to someone yesterday. Check my phone and this video is up with overlays. Great information at the perfect time. Thanks THP for current time of the year relevent tips.
@steveesser6807
@steveesser6807 6 жыл бұрын
I really like the setup of this video as well as the explanation of why. If you explain the 'why' you are doing it before the 'what' you are doing, it is a lot easier to follow and comprehend. The visual aids don't hurt either. Keep up the good work and stay healthy! Don't need any of that Lyme's.
@jimboice1453
@jimboice1453 6 жыл бұрын
Another good video guys. Love the content you guys are putting out, keeps me thinking, Thanks!
@billstev100
@billstev100 5 жыл бұрын
Professor Aaron! Good stuff brother!
@Gumshara
@Gumshara 5 жыл бұрын
Awsome stuff it's getting closer Grate video ✌OUT man
@greatlakesbowhunting3007
@greatlakesbowhunting3007 6 жыл бұрын
I know exactly where this spot is just from watching your videos ;)
@cantgetenoughoutdoors3258
@cantgetenoughoutdoors3258 6 жыл бұрын
Should rename it to buck potatoe! Aaron that’s very noble of you! Good luck Broody!
@mtreese9412
@mtreese9412 6 жыл бұрын
I've had very little luck with OnX and marking trails. Running the GPS with OnX absolutely blows through the battery. At most, we get 400 yards of trails and that's it. Anyone else have this issue?
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
Are you saving the map as off - grid?
@mtreese9412
@mtreese9412 6 жыл бұрын
Not really sure. I'm actively running OnX, which uses the GPS, while I was scouting. This was on Private. Tracker was on. We were trying to mark property boundaries for access. We had OnX on two iPhones. It drained the battery for both. We are 10 miles from a tower which does have an impact b/c we have to use more power to get the GPS. Is there a particular setting that you need to apply to save battery? I can see A LOT of opportunity to use OnX. But it's not that helpful if we can't use this to and from spots, stands, or for marking trails.
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
We don't have the same issue. I think because we're saving the maps before we go and using their off-grid feature. Your phone won't need to load the map continuously if you do this. Should save a ton of battery. Brody and I were out there for about 3 hours with the tracker on the entire time and had plenty of battery to spare.
@CryptoBridgeMan
@CryptoBridgeMan 6 жыл бұрын
Atta boys! great video!
@jacoba5131
@jacoba5131 6 жыл бұрын
MURICA
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
Yes sir!
@icet6668
@icet6668 5 жыл бұрын
Im a rookie hunter. But i just want to say that you did so good of a job with this video that i feel like i could go out there right now and sucessfully do what you just did because of the way you explained it. Its so much nicer to watch you vs these idiots that are always promoting or selling something in every video. Thank you much.
@travisbrewer6998
@travisbrewer6998 6 жыл бұрын
Hey I’ve been watching your pad cast for about a year now. I’ve leaned a lot but Im not sure what to look for as far as where a buck could be bedding on on the area maps
@timbunao878
@timbunao878 6 жыл бұрын
What trails lol solid video per usual
@georgiaboyzoutdoors5610
@georgiaboyzoutdoors5610 6 жыл бұрын
Super insightful video! Do you guys not use permethrin for ticks and chiggers?
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
yes
@thereelaccountant9246
@thereelaccountant9246 5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how people just go out an pick a random opening in the woods and hunt it. Then they wonder why they aren't seeing deer. Good stuff in this video!
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594
@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594 2 жыл бұрын
..... but, IT had such a picturestic view; it "looked" like a good spot ! [ N0T paying any attention to the wind ]
@travissmith-wz5nc
@travissmith-wz5nc 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Ill be re walking state ground i havent hunted in a few years and trying this over vacation during the 4th. You have a video on old rub lines? For off season scouting.
@paulOTW25
@paulOTW25 6 жыл бұрын
Great video once again! Keep up the good work. I can't tell you how much I've learned from you all and I truly appreciate it. I have one long winded question for you: Do you have any tips on determining if the sign you've encountered during offseason scouting indicates deer use of that area the following season? I've noticed some spots with all kinds of sign that deer seem to have vacated at some point in the fall for one reason or another (food, cover, hunting pressure, etc.). My trouble has been "time stamping" that sign and deciding whether or not those areas will yield deer activity the following season.
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Flicek we have the same challenge. Rubs are helpful because bucks will often rub the same trees year after year. Those ‘signpost’ rubs tell us a lot. On our way into this spot we saw very few old rubs. Once we got to the back however they were everywhere. Chances are good that bucks use that area often and when we come in to hunt, we’ll be looking for those rubs to see if they’ve been opened up. That tells us a buck is potentially bedding close by. Simply finding a rub has no bearing but finding them close to a bedding area like this helps tremendously. They will still shift around a lot for the factors you mention but at some point, they’ll likely be back in that spot.
@paulOTW25
@paulOTW25 6 жыл бұрын
The Hunting Public Thanks for the insightful response. I'll keep that in mind while scouting in the future, and hopefully continue to put the pieces together. Best of luck to you all out there and I look forward to your future videos!
@simondejonge3486
@simondejonge3486 6 жыл бұрын
Will the bucks bed in the marshes or on the ridges more
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
Both depending on where the most hunting pressure is occurring.
@casualobserver77
@casualobserver77 6 жыл бұрын
Never seen your channel before but I loved the vid. I found it so informative, I subscribed. I bow hunt the public flat land/swamps of Central Florida with a bow and there's almost no hill features. I've got an opportunity to hunt 150 Acres that borders the Shawnee National Forest in November. I'll use your channel (and others) to help me :) I'm trying to study up how to bow hunt deer in the hills LOL
@TimberHillRedboneDogs
@TimberHillRedboneDogs 6 жыл бұрын
Wow
@kidiraq8381
@kidiraq8381 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and content! I used OnX last season, my 1st season of hunting. I really like it. I can't figure out how to save a new map without all my markers on it from last season though. I'm hunting the same area and I have so many markers, I can't see the map lol.
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
Go to the "My Content" section on the app and deselect your locations. Should be able to uncheck a box and hide them. Let us know if it works!
@kidiraq8381
@kidiraq8381 6 жыл бұрын
Worked perfect, thanks brother! Glad I found the channel and appreciate the reply! God Bless, gonna go watch the rest, season 2 this year in SC, ALLOT to learn!
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
Learning is the fun part! Good luck!
@shannonblane
@shannonblane 5 жыл бұрын
I would far prefer to watch videos like this, that teach skills and help us to better understand deer, rather than watching a cable channel show where they kill huge whitetails on some high fence ranch or farm, and spend half the show shoving products down your throat via commercials.
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 5 жыл бұрын
Shannon Lane Thanks
@joehorton01
@joehorton01 6 жыл бұрын
How do you know the difference between a buck bed and a doe bed?
@thereelaccountant9246
@thereelaccountant9246 5 жыл бұрын
all the buck rubs around/in it. Also, sometimes you can tell by the size of the tracks heading in and out of the bedding area.
@MrPaulluma
@MrPaulluma 6 жыл бұрын
All them ticks reminds me of Missouri. Couldn’t walk in the woods without getting a ton on me everytime. The seed/cloud ticks are the worst though!!!
@jamesbender1967
@jamesbender1967 4 жыл бұрын
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@dublelung1
@dublelung1 6 жыл бұрын
And for the rest of the day I'll be feeling those ticks crawling on me. #tickmagnet
@teamflanneloutdoors5631
@teamflanneloutdoors5631 6 жыл бұрын
I know right
@snoopy1529
@snoopy1529 6 жыл бұрын
I hate ticks. I bought a product this year that you dilute with water and then spray your clothes with. You do not want touch it until it is dry. Extremely toxic to cats. I treated clothes for my son and I both. Once treated the clothes will stay good for 2-3 weeks. It does have a bit of a smell so I would not recommend putting it on any of you deer hunting clothing. It's cheap and it works. During the turkey and mushroom season we found one tick between the two of us. I got it on amazon but it can be bought any farm store. "Martin's Permethrin 10%, 32oz" less than $25 and will last for years and years.
@iswinguillen8159
@iswinguillen8159 6 жыл бұрын
cool 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍☺😉
@iowajohn883
@iowajohn883 6 жыл бұрын
Im very familiar with this spot....the parking lot is a dead giveaway and the addition of the topo map is a instant way to verify the location. I was actually planning on stopping there this weekend. Thanks for the latest info on deer activity and I’m sure we will meet this fall...hopefully it’s not so easy to figure out for everyone else but I’m pretty much positive that spot is now burnt. No place anywhere can this kind of advertisement and not get hammered
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
We don't notice much difference when showing spots like this, unless it's someone who's been there as in your case. Won't be back there again until it's time to hunt and likely will only hunt that spot one or two times all fall. It's hard to teach people without showing the maps.
@catchemalive
@catchemalive 6 жыл бұрын
Yalls videos Aaron wouldn't be half as informative if you didn't show what you are doing on those maps!!! I know some/ VERY FEW people will realize the places y'all are showing us but I don't think it will be near enough to matter!!! Thanks again and good luck
@leafinitup1
@leafinitup1 6 жыл бұрын
You guys really need to pick up an auto sponsorship! Lol. My last car had 365 miles on it, and every hunting trip I would go on was a nail biter. Believe me, the new car payments are worth every penny in terms of peace of mind when you're out in the field. You only live once and you guys are due. Very interesting info - thanks for the insight. How do you know buck beds from doe beds? Are you just saying that they are more likely to be bucks using it based on the rub activity?
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
We wish we could afford the new car payments! But wood shims are the only thing in the budget for now! Bucks tend to be in spots more favorable for sight, sound (hearing), or wind advantage. And many times you find rubs in the beds yes.
@cantgetenoughoutdoors3258
@cantgetenoughoutdoors3258 6 жыл бұрын
Didn’t even start to watch yet but I will already thumbs upping check out first setup through final on utube please! I’m spreading the word guys!! Is there jewel weed out there? It grows by creeks and such, it’s real juicy and I noticed they love that too! That on x is gonna be a good bday present from my wife! I can’t get over how good you guys are really serious, what’s the total years experience hunting from you guys?
@bennylee1044
@bennylee1044 6 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity but what kind of mosquito repellent are you using when you are scouting during the summer months? You're brave to be just wearing a short sleeve tshirt
@TheHuntingPublic
@TheHuntingPublic 6 жыл бұрын
Just your garden variety Repel or Thermacell works great also
@mattkingsley3556
@mattkingsley3556 6 жыл бұрын
CORNDOG NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
@iswinguillen8159
@iswinguillen8159 6 жыл бұрын
😎
@williamlittle2814
@williamlittle2814 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome at scouting. SC does NOT offer open enough woods in most cases to scout like that. We are typically very flat with hardly any contouring but fresh water is key. Food is so abundant that transitions and water are where you find heavy trails. I love it that you can break down what you see and analyze the info you gain thru technology to optimize your hunting success. I look forward to seeing you guys hunting again this fall. Thanks for the scouting vid. Makes me want to go scouting but with heat indexes in the hundreds Im enjoying the AC during the middle of the day. Season opens here Aug 15. Its gonna be super hot and no chance for any saving meat if you cant find your deer. Shot placement sown here is critical for getting your full velvet buck
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