Finding HIDDEN DAMAGE 😫 (Fractured Bulkhead = NO BUENO) | EE 148

[@stephenmatthews9378]

The reason your mattress was damp, is because it is laid on the wood surface, a mattress needs to breathe to stop that. You can purchase underlay for your mattress specifically for that purpose

[@Frawggy0ne]

I was about to say that, they make some awesome mesh products for just that use

[@wendybeattie7794]

Yes, we use this in our RV and have not had an issue since. Just make sure when you make your bed, you tuck your bedding under the mattress and not the underlay

[@bhagenouw]

Since the mattresst is enclosed, it may be wise to actively ventilate as well. I myself had a sprung slatted base with a mattress on top. Movement while sleeping makes it work like a lung and moves the air underneath. I had drilled large holes in the overhang. Good luck.

[@lkn4jolly]

Plus you need a lot of holes drilled into the wood to help air the mattress. As many as you can get away with before affecting the strength of the wood.

[@suzannechance5876]

Condensation will get you if you don't ventilate adequately. Ventilate!!!!!!

[@yzScott]

We hope to make a deal on a 2002 Beneteau 50 this weekend. Our cruising life is finally getting really near after many years of planning. We are working toward a retired life at sea. My wife has been especially enjoying your channel. It's not just entertainment, it's practical knowledge.

[@craiglange4852]

👏👏👏 Well, whoever came up with how to integrate the sponsor into the rest of the video deserves all kind of props. Usually I fast forward through those, especially when I'm not interested in the product, as was this case. However, by weaving the product need into your environment and how it affects you, I couldn't do that. The travel to the shop and back, your surroundings, was something I wanted to see. So I "put up" with the sponsor telling even though I'll never use it. Lingoda should pay you extra. And props to your creativity. 👌

[@chadgautier1004]

@ExpeditionEvans - Even though it’s assumed that that athwart-ships V-Berth support appears to “be” a hull support structure, it’s really not. I’ve worked in the marine industry for close to 45 years, and been a boat builder for close to 40 years, I even sold Beneteau Yachts for a number of years in between. Using a bead of marine adhesive like 5200 instead of glassing the marine plywood into the hull is the reason that it’s obvious that was never Beneteau’s intent to make that V-Berth support part of the hull structure. However, if you want to make that into an actual bulkhead that adds structural support to the hull, then you’d need to incapacitate that entire sheet of plywood in multiple layers of fiberglass to make it a true bulkhead. Otherwise, it will simply transfer that new load to the weakest part of the hull structure…the bare plywood.

[@richardpickersgill3434]

I agree, it's nothing to worry about

[@joshstamey4136]

Click bait. Not a real bulkhead. These guys have done enough structural repairs to know that. Stopped watching at 2:42…

[@damientelle]

fully agreed.....nothing to add except that on my Jeanneau this kind of partition wall (it should be the right term to use instead of "bulkhead" which for me is structural) are not evven glued to the hull, just screwed to the frame / stringer.

[@heyhandersen5802]

this was my thought too. As a bulkhead it seemed too flimsy.

[@kamelsr]

"EVERY TWENTY MINUTE JOB IS ONE BROKEN BOLT AWAY FROM BECOMING A THREE DAY ORDEAL

[@delaray7]

Lord, you work so hard, both of you. I am amazed at how much you do each day. Good🍀Luck and Take💞Care.

[@moniquezwart1961]

While sleeping, your body releases moisture into the environment. This happens through breathing and perspiration through the skin. This fluid loss can amount to more than one liter per night - in some cases even 2.5 liters. At least a quarter of that moisture is removed via the mattress and bed base. You must therefore ensure that moisture can escape from your mattress. This can be done, for example, because your mattress is on a slatted base. or on a spiral. You will always suffer from moisture because you lie on a closed board.

[@ocean_kin1922]

I really hope you guys see this. And I know this is a weird video to comment this on but I just want to say; your videos and channel (both the good side and the bad side) has made me want to get a boat to live on. I’m 23 turning 24 soon and I discovered that I’m very nomadic and adventurous. I told myself if I still want to get a boat 5 years after getting my trade skill (cosmetology) I will get a boat to live on. I will also become an interpreter (me and my bff are gonna learn languages together) so I can work remotely if I do decide to go down that route. I will love being able to just pick up and move from place to place and come back to my home town (which is costal) whenever I want! Thank you guys for showing me it’s possible to do anything you want to do! ❤

[@fred6319]

It seems to me that it is not structural but installed as a divider or to mount something on it(because it was installed after the gelcoat was applied)

[@robm.4512]

Mmmm, inadequate build procedure is kinda historically a Beneteau thing. They pretty much throw them together and the details of exactly which construction corners get cut is luck of the draw. Whether the half bulkhead is a critical part in structural terms or not, it should have been tabbed in properly to prevent it from fretting against the hull and eventually causing localised weakness of the cored hull’s inner skin. No matter, they’ve fixed it now.

[@damientelle]

Exactly that is only a partition wall, not a bulkhead. Dońt forget that this boat was existing for somes market as 4 cabin (front cabin divided in half) this partiion wall is thus not existing at all. I could agree that using a 5200 PU to glue it directly on gelcoat (probably not even cleaned after demolding) is not the best quality standart. But it is nothing else that multiple configutation desgin. The only risk of such design is cracking noise at sea. Dońt forget that this boat was grounded. a friend has grounded his 42 feets beneteau (at 8 nds....) exactly the same dammage as Expedition Evan around the keel area (we are on the way to fix it) but we found also similar "crack" on non structural interior panel (back seat, fridge) It is obvious that with such grounding impact the overall hull is twisted, impacting also secondary structure. Nothing abnormal or to blame Beneteau

[@awesomedave8484]

Thank you for sharing! Pro tip for anyone cutting foam, use an electric carving knife just like the kitchen one you would for a turkey. I use to cut foam for v-births and couches and when our foam saw went down the electric knife was a great backup.

[@robm.4512]

I was about to post the same tip. Bingo! 😎👍🍻

[@mango8918]

The comments are filled with all kinds of good advice, so I'll not dispense any more. But I'll just tell you how much I love your channel and wish you could just find a (painless) way to show raw footage of your activities. IMO, one post every two weeks doesn't satisfy my hunger. I need more Bret and Jade!

[@MyDesertSunshine]

I love how much Jade's Mom gets to sail with you😊

[@nikafrost2775]

Ventilation is a better solution to moisture problems than sealing off areas of the boat. Up the ventilation through the hull front to back all levels, no more mold.

[@terrispigarelli8249]

Have you thought about adding something under the mattress such as Coirpad Coconut Coir Mattress Pad ? These are common in the RV world to help prevent moldy mattresses.

[@jordy5625]

Cork is very good. Its also protection against electromagnetic waves if you believe in things like this =)

[@genevievemay3461]

We bought sprung wooden slats from Beneteau which stop mould and condensation under our mattress - also makes sleeping more comfortable.

[@markhopper3895]

I hope the new mattress works out beautifully for you. Just an FYI, some people are allergic to latex (myself included). It never expressed itself until I slept on a latex mattress. If you have any odd rashes or breakouts over the next few days/nights just know it may not be mold but latex. I sincerely hope that’s not the case for either of you.

[@rw7131]

The moisture is your body sweat, it’s on the bottom because water runs down hill. Stops at wooden platform.

[@virginiachase6008]

I love how you two LOVE your fur babies

[@simplecountrydrummer]

electric turkey carving knife I find works perfect for cutting foam just so ya know for next time. Also camping I get that wet under mattresses I found a product that is like a 1/2 inch thick honeycomb mat to allow airflow under it. I suppose you could build some type of lattice under it to do the same if you keep getting that moisture under it.

[@robertbryant6939]

All the old fishing boats in the Northwest have holes cut in the wood underneath their mattresses, or sometimes a lattice type of framework, kind of like the teak grates in some cockpits or head/shower enclosures - to allow moisture to escape.

[@marmoose30]

Love your dogs even more. They love blanket caves! Too cute!

[@perjorgensen4228]

on our oceans we have wooden slabs over the plywood to lift the mattress and let it breathe. Our last boat, the mattresses had a netting on the bottom that let air circulate. The moisture is from your bodies. So probably any mattress placed just on top of the plywood will create some mildew.

[@Valerie_Dawn]

Bravo. (one of the only words I know in Spanish) That was probably the absolute best presentation of a sponsored ad I’ve seen on any KZbin channel. Way to go. It was real context for the importance of learning the language in a foreign country.

[@raymondparr1]

You can buy something like this from most marine shops.. check it out it stopped that damp and smelling under your mattress.. Dry-Mat Mattress Ventilation take a look see what you think. Hopefully it helps.. xx

[@tomriley5790]

If you improve the ventilation under your mattress it should help with mould etc. traditionally it was wooden slats but you can also get some hydroscopic underlay's now. Othewise I expect you will get mould on your new mattress too.

[@dmcgarry2020]

Jade, the quote is "Every 20 minute job is one broken bolt away from becoming a three day ordeal"

[@Defender40]

You may want to add slats under the new mattress. The cover can mildew in humid environments unless you let air pass from top and bottom. At least that's what happened to ours in a coastal city when it was on a solid base.

[@JamesRook]

When you have to move something around that's heavy and floppy like a mattress, and especially if it has no handholds, get a couple of ratchet straps. Fold the mattress over, cinch the straps around it and tighten. Now you have something to hold onto for moving into position. Easier to get through doorways and such as well.

[@GoofieNewfie69]

You need to drill a ton of holes in your bunk Mold love dark moist air that don't move Moving air is the key to keeping mold down Need much more moving air under the bed Also it's best to run dehumidifiers as often a possible

[@kenmcvie6350]

As has been stated, the mattress will get wet unless you ventilate it. You could try standing it on edge every day when it's not being used, or get the special underlay as some have advised.

[@janeising3585]

I wil write this Dutch. Vervang alle houten panelen onder je matras en maak van die panelen een soort lattenbodem. Zaag in alle houten panelen en dwarsbalken, 10/ 12 mm gaten( heel veel) voor de heel belanrijke ventilatie. Succes.

[@rslats3232]

Jade! This video was one of the best storytelling videos you have done. Love it

[@belindachappell9875]

Even with latex you’ll get mould without a way to get airflow underneath. I had a latex mattress on a wooden floor and the body heat from our bodies over winter created enough moisture between the mattress and floor that both the mattress and floorboards got mould within a year.

[@blueygolding8176]

I have watched the vids of your restoration project from the beginning and I take my hat off to you guys. I have built a boat in every decade since the 1970s, so I know what it takes. On your current issue: Firstly I doubt that plywood is a structural bulkhead. If it was intended to be such it would not be simply edge glued to the hull gelcoat, but be installed with substantial fillets and glass tape reinforcement, as you have now done. Even a 50' hull will "oil can" to some degree when pushed hard in rough conditions, which is likely what has happened to cause the gelcoat to pull off the glass. If it was my boat I would have used a polyurethane adhesive sealant to secure that bit of ply.

[@Leith.D]

Hey guys. For future reference, the best way to cut foam is with an electric kitchen knife... think 2 bread knifes side by side. Quick easy clean cuts, even when you have to trim a little extra off an edge

[@davidhendrie6935]

Hi guys! I want to echo the comment about having a breather layer under your mattress. If you lay your mattress on a solid platform, your sweat has nowhere to go as you sleep and, once it reaches it, it makes a film of condensation, which goes sour and ends up black. Virtually all upholstery foams are 'open cell', which means moisture will permeate them. I'm not too familiar with latex. It may be 'closed cell', which means your sweat won't go through. But... even so, allowing air to circulate under your mattress, means it will stay fresh for longer. All the best!

[@davidhendrie6935]

Well.... it looks like your latex mattress has been designed to breathe as you sleep. So you should be good to go. You might need a layer on top to bridge the holes though. They certainly left their marks!

[@perniciousprogressive8333]

There are also long razor edged blades that are, or used to be, used in garment factories in a jigsaw looking kinda hand-held device that was used for cutting multiple plies of fabric at once. I have one that's probably 40 years old that I still use for vutting foam and composite textiles.

[@jenspetersimonsen4235]

LOL - you guys are so sweet (most likely repeating myself) ... "we've got this - it's just a one-day project, right?" 😅

[@SirCarlosMusicBMI]

🎉🎉🎉 You kids are so awesome 👏👏👏 I’m always looking forward to watching your new videos. Your friendship together is amazing 🤩. Keep safe and healthy my friends. I always love your content. Blessings,Carlos ✝️🙏❤️😊🇺🇸

[@lilyrose_gracexo]

You are living the dreaammmm!!! I could never though I get way too motion sick haha! Hope your loving your best life out there! 🌊❤. Do you ever get sea sick?

[@mykgrauss9872]

A great video Jade and Brett. You both make me smile. Glad you found that mold and bulkhead damage and the mold filled mattress. Now you just need to put a ventilation system under your new mattress and you'll be set. I'm sure you'll both feel and sleep better too. Love and hugs to you both. Myk ❤🤗

[@justincase5272]

Pull it, grind it, sand it, and glass it back into place. I successfully used this approach on the rust-ravaged '74 Chevy Vega. Bicycling: Helmets, please. I've love to show you the gouges in my helmet where a TBI would have been.

[@chrissavill8713]

Great educational video again, so thanks! I think I'm gonna need it as whilst watching this vid I got a phone call saying that I am now the (proud?) owner of a little MacWester 26ft yacht. I say proud? with a ? as It was abandoned at a boatyard and hasn't been used for 10 years so it's not looking great at all. lol. Still, for £175.00 what could go wrong? 😂 Getting a mooring with it is the real winner though as everywhere where I am on the south coast of the UK there's a waiting list for most marinas, and for £68 a month it's not gonna break the bank either. 😃

[@johnbeck2797]

I continue to be impressed by your resourcefulness and attention to detail.

[@helenhall3705]

We use a product called aeromesh to go under the mattress in our van. It keeps air flow under the mattress = no mould

[@petermarsh5762]

Even though the mattress is latex you will still need a way to vent the mattress. Latex holds water like a sponge. Furniture manufactures use latex in their high end products by bonding one or two inches on top of urethane foam. Foam comes in varying firmness levels. The two materials will easily bond to each other with contact cement. Latex is only mold resistant, if mold can grow in diesel fuel it’ll grow on anything. Love your channel and energy levels.

[@klaushinzer854]

Good idea to switch matress in a mold environment😉But please NEVER put a mattress in direct contact to a flat wooden surface. Use AIRmesh 3D fabric of about 15mm underneath your mattress for ventilation. That’s works great to prevent new mold growth. Good luck and nice dreams on your new mattress and keep up your lovely spirit! Cheers, Steffen

[@virginiachase6008]

Happens slowly over time and wear and tear. And it is frustrating and a reminder of our mortality. BUT life is good.

[@ToddManOut]

Jade/Brett, that opening was top freaking notch! TV quality stuff, nice job! This episode could easily have been a 30 minute segment in a Discovery Channel series. Traditional TV networks are in trouble when KZbinrs are putting out content like this.

[@diverbob8]

TV has been in trouble, I haven't watched for years...YT every night!

[@ivycycles]

An old electric Turkey slicer works really well for foam believe it or not. It will slice through foam like butter...

[@garlandmoore6285]

Electric carving knife works great to cut flom

[@caleccopest]

I HAVE BEEN WITH YOU TWO....FROM THE BEGINING...BECAUSE I WAS A PILOT........BUT I'D RATHER SAIL WITH YOU THAN FLY!

[@reusinkinstallatietechniek6256]

Hello? This is Mike from Amsterdam Holland perhaps the mattress is not ventilated enough. It's best you make a lot of holes in the wood underneath the mattress and also in the front of the board where you stand so fresh dry air. Cancel calculator when you sleep you Sweat a lot and the air is also moisture.So when you fantasize after you sleep or while you sleep then the batch they all got perforated board underneath it

[@G-ra-ha-m]

Matresses _always_ get wet of the back of them is on a solid surface. That's another reason beds have slats, it allows them to breath. Without slats, you will need to buy a under-bed-breathing layer, that allows air to circulate under the mattress. People in campervans also learn this quite fast!

[@joecoty3981]

Hello, I've been enjoying your channel since the beginning, kudos on your content development. The ad featured in supporting this weeks episode was very creative and compelling!

[@Chris-zo5ze]

I've seen on several boat channels...They sell things that lift the mattress slightly off the wood to form an air gap. I think I saw it on the Wynn's way back when they were outfitting their leopard.

[@KnottingleyGuns]

Also invest in a Karcher window vac. Brilliant for clearing condensation.

[@Sailing_Antrice]

Running a dehumidifier would really help. I have one running on my boat all winter and no damp or mould and the U.K. is a whole lot damper, wetter and colder than Spain.

[@timmyg6815]

old man pains start at 30 and are in noticable by 40 in full swing by 50

[@ponymanr]

An electric "carving knife" for carving your turkey is the best thing to use when trying to cut any kind of foam. It works really well.

[@1sheinz]

When laying up glass to bulkheads you REALLY need to get the gel coat off, sand back to glass then lay up the new glass bobding glass too glass. Gell coat will just pull away from either itself or the glass layer. It is not a strong enough bond for stress and strength areas. CHEERS AND SAFE Steve h.

[@FromThePrairies]

You need to find someone in Canada to send you a measuring tape. Most have both Metric and 'Merican units. And, you need air circulation under the mattress. I'd think about drilling many, many, many holes in the top of the compartment under the bed to allow for air flow.

[@vendter]

The best way I have found to cut foam is with an electric carving knife.

[@Mechone11]

Did you do both sides of the bulkhead? We only saw one side.Froli springs under mattress allow air flow and save your back.

[@ddevil4980]

The good news is you guys know how to fix it and make it stronger than before. 👍👍

[@DBLB14]

40....things change at 40I I had no ailments through my 20's and 30's. My neighbour gave me a card for my 40th that read 'Welcome to 40, if you don't have an ailments 1 will be assigned to you shortly.' 2 weeks later I learned about tennis elbow!

[@danielmclellan7762]

Y'all are the most physically attractive sailing couple (close with SLV) in my eyes lol it's like watching Ken and Barbie, but Barbie is a badass in this one, rather than a flake.. . actually, also I have decided that fiberglass boats need a small air compressor for removal of air bubbles

[@mr01steam]

I very much doubt this half bulkhead is structural. If you do bond it to the hull, make sure there is a soft foam gap between the actual wood and the inner hull, so as the glass and epoxy cure and shrink slightly it does not pull the wooden bulkhead tight into the hull. If you are not careful here the wooden bulkhead will make stress cracks on the gel coat on the outside of the hull. All bulkheads should be installed in this way so they are not pulled hard-up against the inner skin of the hull. Once installed you will not be able to detect this as the glass join will hide it. All GRP boat builders are aware of this. This is not a problem with Foam floor structures covered in GRP, but is really critical on bulkheads, where the thinner hull sides flex. The bulkhead makes a hard point in the hull where it is seated. Hope this helps.

[@kevind767]

That last bit with Penny burying her head in the bed, made me Laugh out loud!! Dogs are the best!!

[@Verb130]

It's a bulkhead. It's probably structural, but not a major structure. It's secondary. Life is hard. Keep working. Y'all are doing great.

[@PeterStuckey]

I think the moisture is from your body sweat. It migrates through and gets trapped between the mattress and the platform..Latex is definitely the way to go! We had a mold issue with our old foam mattress as well. Latex doesn't seem to have the issue.

[@johnjunior6101]

It is nice that you found the problem with the bulkhead and mattress while you are still in port and and working on upgrades to your boat. And really Brett, you are shocked that the new mattress weighed more than Jade. I think a sparrow weighs more than Jade. hahaha

[@giles-df9yu]

I lived in Spain for 18 months years ago, its a wonderful place with wonderful people and the food is unbelievable. Try some garlic yard bird., the Spain ham and potato eggs dish is wonderful with spainish bread

[@bigmikes2140]

You need to get a Froli under mattress system. They are extremely comfortable and slow ventilation user the mattress to keep it dry

[@nautidreamscatamaran]

Hypervent, I get mine from defender marine. It's works awesome. It creates an air space under the beds, I get condensation puddles, that never touch my mattresses. To

[@gordonclark1711]

So sorry to hear that your old memory mattress has amnesia. I have had the same problem and also pillows.

[@ChuckShiley]

I have that an electric food carving knife with dual reciprocating blades is great for cutting foam.

[@GonzoMallorca]

It is not bulkhead - only a support for your bed. You get what you pay for... Use some spar bond or similar to glue to the hull after a bit of sanding (and a slatted frame/drill holes in the platform if you do not like mold).

[@Jccj93486]

I have been watching y’all since you were refitting. Let me tell ya…. Y’all’s editing skills are top freaking notch.

[@hexhex7220]

the pups seal of approval!

[@yoyomismo5486]

wellcome to Spain and enjoy your time here

[@zekevaltz9843]

Beneteau - the gift that keeps on giving. Glad you found it. Glad you (clearly) have the skills to repair it. Here's hoping for not too many bonus surprises. Z.

[@LivetolearnMama]

Nice work! 36 years-old here, and the other day my husband asked me if I was okay. I was completely confused, because I was just fine. He told me I made a really awful noise when I leaned back in my chair. I'm here to say, one day you just start making those old person noises, but they don't always wait until you're actually elderly. 🤣

[@timothyflynn9479]

Next time you need to cut foam like that use a household electric carving knife. No fuss no muss.

[@guydriver]

You guys (mom too) are just great!

[@sailingsomeday5975]

It might help to drill some holes in the bed tops. It will help circulation around the mattress…..

[@MichaelOrr-t1h]

Hi guys, what you've been told is all totally true.. so why not look at drilling a few at least 50mm (2 inches) holes through yr base board & add a vent to the case board The other problem you have is lack of moving air, yes a window wks .. is there anyway of creating a ceiling extraction fan ? Or better still can you move your bedroom arft ?

[@kindsailing]

Hypervent matting will take care of the mattress condensation, as long as some air can get to it.Namaste. 🙏

[@Davidspurs1882]

You need a dehumidifier for your bedroom. Keep up the good work guys.

[@Peterix11]

I have the base to allow the air circulate under the mattress but also have condensation, the solution was isolate the wood base by the side of the hull with adhesive insulation for cars (the one with one aluminium face)

[@daviddelrosario828]

"Old Man Grunt" I resemble that remark! That was hilarious . Good fix on the half bulkhead in bow. Looks likeyu guys will be sleeping better now,

[@mikemoxley9477]

SUPER content, love love love your adventures!!!!

[@jimramm701]

It's really nice of Penny and Dingo to share their new bed with you!

[@freyja4954]

I took a break for a bit But coming back to the channel and seeing you two. Jade, I have to say you look so healthy. Congratulations, I know it's been a constant effort. Sorry to see the bulkhead failure. But it's a good thing you guys caught it in time.

[@garythornton4523]

Electrical craving knife works great of that mattress (it has two blades)

[@ricktaylor14001]

21:43 - Jade… the grunts are progressive for sure, but they SPEED UP really quickly! And it’s not 65 that is happens, you may look forward to the grunts, cracks, snaps and pops to show up around 40!! When you begin hearing your knees crack just from walking…. you know you’re fully into it and it’s all downhill from there! 😂 Exercise… if you keep exercising in some way and keep stretching, it will go a LONG way to easing all of that. Walk, biking, push ups, squats… do a combination of most of these everyday, and MAYBE the groans and snaps will be minimal u too you’re 60-something. (For the record, I doubt it, but keep exercising anyway… it’s good for you!!). 😜👍🏼☮️

[@jayhays9192]

The grunts and groans come earlier depending on the number of times you’ve jumped out of a perfectly good airplane with a full pack. If you know what I mean.. Cheers 🥃 to being young Gumby’s 🏄‍♂️

[@STEVEKRSNIK]

Be aware your latex mattress with will get mold on the bottom if it can't breath as well. Try to create a slat base for the mattress to breath.(i know latex doesn't get moldy but the wood will if there is no circulation

[@markspindler9477]

As mentioned earlier an electric carving knife is the professional tool used by foam installers.

[@RichardSwinton]

Great to get my expedition fix. Looking forward to u guys sailing this year. I hear Scotland is amazing. Cheers, stay safe