Such a fascinating conversation. I was that swimmer that you described at the end. I only started swimming about 4 months ago. When I first started I was a 2.20ish swimmer, after watching many video’s like this and focusing on technique, I am now a 1.50ish swimmer. I feel after watching this and focusing on the things discussed in this video, I think I could probably take another 5-10 seconds off again. Very fascinating the science in swimming.
@jaymueller24184 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic episode, Brenton. One thing I’ve found helpful is to do pool planks…you float in the streamline position, but not moving and try to keep all of your body as high as possible. At first it’s tough but with practice you can actually log your fingertips and toes over and out of the water and hold it. This trains you to have the entirety of the core supporting the appendicular skeleton. If you go from multiple 1 minute water plank holds to freestyle you’ll feel the connection across the centre and from top to bottom.
@stutone4 ай бұрын
I bought Tracey's book 4 weeks ago. It answered so many postural questions. My balance is so much better (legs up) through proper lengthening and breathing. I am working on her 2 beat kick and now I am able to go longer at the same pace, with ease. I continue to work on timing and I am beginning to feel the "anchoring" effect. I have IMO developed much more in these 4 weeks than the last 12 months. I am sure the speed with come. Great Podcast and Guest...Thanks!
@cigdemaksu78774 ай бұрын
Approach of Coach Tracy to swimming body position throughout skeleton instead of muscle groups really makes things simple for me. One doesn't need to think about all body parts when put everything in right place and let body does its job, and that is when fun and flow starts. In addition to that, ideas on speed as a byproduct of the process not the goal to reach also apply many other aspects in life as well 🙏 just focus to do right thing in one stroke and keep your body safe, the speed will come eventually.. Nice to hear from Tracy in that platform. She is one of the best coaches I have ever learned from and swim with. Thanks to have her 🙏🙏 Greetings from Turkey ❤
@TheTrailRabbit4 ай бұрын
Easier said than done mate 😅
@hatpeach14 ай бұрын
Always enjoy hearing from guests on these podcasts. Just set a personal best on a 400m swim -- shocking how KZbin, esp. this channel, has helped!
@flowerbunny3225Ай бұрын
Totally geeking out on this. Love it!❤
@dennisalters7023 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Thinking of the rotation as the engine resulted in faster rotations with a 2 beat kick. Gained 5 inches on my stretch with less shoulder strain. This insight was a game changer. It’s not how fast I pull or kick but how quickly I rotate. Brilliant.
@TomasMacek-go2me4 ай бұрын
One of the very best interviews at ES! Thanks a lot! I'm going to the pool today bearing in mind what was being said here and will try to apply it. I just wish more people watch this as it's so essential for everybody! @ES: please, more interviews with Tracey! 👍
@taliakatouzi3062 ай бұрын
Tracy's golden rules of disconnected body movements/ rotating body & hands/ not to break the body parts, too much rotating slows us down. Thanks to your immense knowledge, both of you.
@Nataly6353 ай бұрын
Apologies for being a bit "late to the party", but I had to say, what an enlightening conversation!! The concepts and explanations are easy to understand and it all makes so much sense. Huge thanks to both of you! ❤❤
@no-fuse4 ай бұрын
Yesterday we discussed rotation with my dear coach and the topic has became so intriguing for me. Thank you for deep explanation ) Tracey you are so gorgeous!
@jamesduga19004 ай бұрын
This is Fascinating, I am a novice swimmer but a life long martial artist and nearly all of the mechanics she is describing are a part of what are known as internal martial arts like taichi. And I have been swimming like this for a while because I was using the internal martial arts mechanics.
@levanoganezov80673 ай бұрын
The book became philosopher's stone for me in the way of mastering my swimming skills. It provides holistic approach for building of basic freestile tecnique. Loved the book from the first chapter, where was actually proposed to implement mindfulness meditation in all training sessions.
@Alesandro1133 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing all this knowledge, great episode!!
@andrewmason86914 ай бұрын
I’ve been doing Wing Chun Kung Fu for 37 years. Describing the body as the human engine is very similar to how I teaching punching and kicking. Most of the force in a punch comes from and us initiated by the body (centre of movement), not the arms. I can now use the example of swimming when I teach our students.
@Davidparle714 ай бұрын
As confusing as i found this while watching i tried to apply it in my most recent swim and its made a noticable difference. I realised my opposite leg is kicking which must have been working against the rotation.... so i had to focus on the deeper leg when rotating. It brought my awareness into my middle and the bottom of the pool rather that out front and out back simultaneously. Much simpler!
@andrewhenderson60974 ай бұрын
The book was so good I bought it for a friend. Brilliant book, and great Podcast thanks both 🏊♂️👍
@scottishwonders48103 ай бұрын
I wish I have watched this earlier, would have prevented my shoulder injury. I like the piece at 11:40 where Tracey demonstrates the natural movemen to the arm and shoulder, something I was not aware of until after the damage was done. Thanks for the video.
@hamishspencer3 ай бұрын
Tracey's appearances have been a revelation. Things I have taken and incorporated - 1. Hand comes inside the line of the shoulder (this is massive) 2. Keeping yourself tall... book on your head and middle joins legs and shoulders together 3. Being joined together in the middle leads to a natural 6 beat flutter that doesn't really need to incorporate the energy-hungry glutes and quads. All of these have felt like real revelations. To be fair, Brenton has described all of these things previously with his ideas of 'elongating the neck', 'core engaged' and 'kicking within a bucket' but for some reason I found it easier to implement the way Tracey described it. The hand being inside the shoulder is a real game changer for me. I'd never really heard it said that way before but since I tried it I have realised my hands were far too wide and it was putting pressure on my shoulders and reducing the power I could put into the pull. Thanks Brenton and Tracey. Best swimming channel on YT by far!!!
@chriskahlson3 ай бұрын
Integrating the mind and body movements- highly informative
4 ай бұрын
Loved loved this episode. So much great info you don’t see anywhere else.
@wendyhopcroft9093 ай бұрын
Buy the book! Excellent
@fernandoscalise72074 ай бұрын
¡Gracias!
@EffortlessSwimming4 ай бұрын
thank you!
@jonathankitto77714 ай бұрын
Catch and hold...such a clever reframe
@johnbarnes61084 ай бұрын
Good to have guest ..listening to what is being shared I think they can best describe it as the catch and scull enable us to rotate and roll the other arm over.
@Alesandro1133 ай бұрын
And the rotation starts at the finger tip
@snowpants22124 ай бұрын
Pan Zhanle is so good at moving his body as a unit in the way described here.
@terencecronin1436Ай бұрын
The latissimus dorsi insertion on the humerus involves a 180 degree twist,when you bend your elbow to pull in freestyle this engages the latissimus dorsi. The lats. is a powerful muscle,it untwists to begin a contraction and has a hawser like action (like climbing a rope) which engages the spine down to the sacrum with minimal effort.When your hand reaches the hip other vectors come into play
@drdecco14 ай бұрын
As an ‘expert’ [myself]😂 on watching YT instructors - at 30:15 when you want to do that [hand] demo of body disconnect…. [it’s funny how our bodies want to work/not work together] just cross your hands over [like a butterfly] and it’ll allow your index/ring fingers demo the leg kick without messing up the other hand demoing the torso rotation
@mikealexander70174 ай бұрын
I never heard of anyone recommending a symmetrical 4-beat kick - it would indeed be at odds with body rotation. The classic 4-beat is a 6-beat with 2 consecutive kicks removed - or, coming from the other direction, a 2-beat with an extra 2 beat "drum fill" on one side. As a musician I think of it as a 6/8 rhythm - you can have 6 quavers (flutter kick), 3 quavers and a dotted crotchet (4-beat) or 2 dotted crotchets (2-beat). Once you get this, you can easily switch between 2, 4 and 6-beat.
@hanumarn78824 ай бұрын
I guess it’s like playing golf, boxing, and other martial arts sports where the power comes from the rotation of the hips… never thought of that with swimming. 🧐❤️👍
@reknirbecurb4 ай бұрын
The thumb being below the eye and the pectoral was helpful for me. I have no idea what angle my rotation is, probably more than 30 lol
@mauriciojr83322 ай бұрын
In this video we can perceive the eternal search for the more fundamental principle to a perfect swimming. Who knows body rotation is the key to become faster?
@morganames81423 ай бұрын
Tracy, at time 39:07, you discuss your "happy equation" of three things: Strokes per Length (SPL); Tempo and RP (or did you say RPE?). I am a 71 year old Masters swimmer, who recently learned through the marvels of Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) technology that did NOT exist in 1970, when I injured my right (dominant arm) shoulder while playing college football at a U.S. Service Academy. Though doctors always told me that I'd suffered a "shoulder sprain" and though X-rays showed no damage to bones (such as the acromium or clavicle), it wasn't until a recent MRI that I learned that I had sustained severe damage in my right shoulder including a near complete tear (85% torn) through my supraspinatus tendon and tears to two of the three remaining tendons along with anterior and posterior tears to my labrum and an acromial-clavicle impingement. Though I have "lived with" the discomfort for 54 years and tried to strengthen musculature supporting my shoulder, recently while swimming laps I "tweaked" my shoulder while working on improving technique ... this re-injury prompted the MRI that revealed the issues in my shoulder process. I greatly appreciate your discussion of "catching and holding" and "reaching over a ball/barrel" and progressing along a horizontal ladder's rungs. All GREAT ADVICE!!! Kindly clarify/amplify on your third factor of RP (RPE) so that I might include it in my objective stroke technique as I continue my swimming regimine so as to prevent further injury. Sincerely, Morgan
@Alesandro1133 ай бұрын
Great observation
@johnmurray14794 ай бұрын
If you demonstrate a drill or position please make sure we can see what you are doing or we risk doing it wrong!
@reubenmorales79384 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@ktech42464 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this podcast especially the topic on fold. In Tracey's book she talks about executing the fold before the rotation. Can anyone shed light when is this executed relative to the recovery arm? Ie is just before your hand enters the water?
@swimmastery4 ай бұрын
Great question. You will execute the catch slowly at the same time you recover the arm. So by the time you are ready to rotate you are ready to apply pressure (anchor) on the catching (holding) side and send yourself forwards past the anchoring catch, by using the rotation to straighten into streamline on one side. A simultaneous movement.
@ktech42464 ай бұрын
@@swimmastery Awesome thanks so much for the reply! (BTW love the book) So would a good cue be just when the recovery arm passes the head to start the fold (slowly)? Also looking forward to the Sydney camp announcement :)
@ananikolic71624 ай бұрын
The lady is amazing
@wendyhopcroft9093 ай бұрын
Buy her book!
@MaximilianJackson4 ай бұрын
I'm using a 2-beat kick, but my kicks are on the opposite side of my pull. Is that ok?
@swimmastery4 ай бұрын
The press should be with the same leg as your catching arm.
@dekik.9794 ай бұрын
@@swimmasteryin which segment should be my left arm in the moment my left leg kicks?
@MaximilianJackson4 ай бұрын
@@dekik.979 my understanding from the trainers is that as you pull your left arm, your left leg should kick.
@swimmastery4 ай бұрын
@@dekik.979should be beginning to apply pressure on the catch after it has folded (both of these should be timed with the whole body rotation)
@johnsomoza94504 ай бұрын
Great video but I'm confused by something. Tracey basically says that the rotation happens before the pull. However, I have been using the pull as a way of driving the rotation. Is what I have been doing wrong?
@swimmastery4 ай бұрын
If you can try and think of them as simultaneous movements, you will be able to tap into larger muscle groups, fatigue less quickly and eventually be able to create more power and therefore forward momentum. Providing your frame is in place
@johnsomoza94504 ай бұрын
@@swimmastery Thanks for the reply! More generally, I have heard different guidance on initiating the rotation. Some people have suggested that it starts with the feet, some with the hips, and some with the pull. If you don't mind, what is your opinion on this issue?
@johnsomoza94504 ай бұрын
Also, some of the people who say that the rotation starts with the feet seem to be referring to a twisting of the feet while others are referring to a kick on the side of the rotation...
@swimmastery4 ай бұрын
@@johnsomoza9450 I believe that if you are able to connect the whole body from your shoulders to your feet, then the weight shift created by the recovering arm will begin the whole rotation of the whole body at the same time. I believe that if we try and target any one part , as starting the rotation, then there is more chance of disconnecting the body and as a result, increasing the risk of injury because you will tap into, smaller muscles as well as not being able to transfer the energy into forward momentum as the middle line will have been compromised.
@johnsomoza94504 ай бұрын
@@swimmastery Thanks!!! That is very helpful!
@twiggyfitness4 ай бұрын
QUESTION: Any suggestions for someone who swims in a propulsion pool with a tether? I'm 5'5" with a bulging disk at my L5 and multiple shoulder surgeries. After 20 minutes, my lower back hurts.
@swimmastery4 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that. Yes even more important to get your head on right. And space between your vertebrae. Imagine you have a book balancing on your head and your are swimming it to the front end of your pool, and away from your feet. As if you are trying to get air in between each of your joints all the way down the body. It is important to ensure the tether is positioned correctly to minimise it pulling you out of alignment.
@twiggyfitness4 ай бұрын
@@swimmastery appreciate the information. Thanks 😊
@brunopiar64434 ай бұрын
Amazing episode ! Many thanks from the south of France ! If you may, I would have a question concerning the trajectory of the hand during the catch. Tracey says that, during the catch, the hand "must come INSIDE of the shoulder line”, whereas Brenton usually says that, during the catch, the hand “moves OUTWARDS and finishes wider than its shoulder”. Isn’t it contradictory ? I have to struggle with shoulder pain, so a clarification would be so helpful...
@swimmastery4 ай бұрын
The best way to minimise pain in your shoulder is to imagine that once you have rotated your whole body forwards into your streamline position, imagine that you are going to fold and hold the water around your hand and lower arm, and keeping it in place, rotate your whole body past this point. If you have set up your streamline correctly, your joints will ensure they go into the correct position to keep your shoulder safe. I try coaching students to put their joints into positions and allow them to articulate correctly, especially with the catch, rather than telling them where to move their catch. As technically once you have held onto the water, the hand and lower arm should be completely stable and not move at all, it is your whole body that is moving forwards. I hope that helps.
@brunopiar64434 ай бұрын
@@swimmastery Thank you so much Tracey. I just ordered your book and I am looking forwards to learning a lot from it.
@swimmastery4 ай бұрын
@@brunopiar6443 my pleasure
@snowpants22124 ай бұрын
Good idea to replace talk of "pulling" with talk of "climbing"
@atoms-to-atoms3 ай бұрын
great video..but for Adhd ..I would have preferred graphics
@mister-kay4 ай бұрын
What puzzles me a lot is the 30 degree rotation. What should happen with the recovery arm? I often see in (TI) swimmers that the bent at the elbow recovery arm forms an equilateral triangle with the surface of the water when it passes the shoulder, which means it's a 60 degree angle between the upper arm and the water. But if the shoulders are turned only by 30 degrees, doesn't it mean that the upper arm of the recovery arm goes way behind the scapular plane?
@susanbaum49843 ай бұрын
I have the same question! If rotation is 30 degree, it seems hard to bring the elbow out of water for recovery!
@yourfitday4 ай бұрын
What do you mean “ press” the bottom leg! I’m not understanding what this means. Is there a video that demonstrates this?
@wendyhopcroft9093 ай бұрын
Buy her book
@IT-fr4wb3 ай бұрын
elongate forward w t forearm that’s going to pull (love t stretch here) rotate to engage t bigger torso muscles as you pull back/ lovely..
@jwalantmehta44763 ай бұрын
How about breaststroke?
@swimmastery3 ай бұрын
I love love love coaching and speaking about breaststroke. I have also written a Breaststroke Voach Training Certification smile😊
@ananikolic71624 ай бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@ableasdale20004 ай бұрын
I have recently had the exact same epiphany. Years of working on catch and cadence, then a chance session on body line and... zoom. Like Daoism, try less.
@cinmac33 ай бұрын
that's quite annoying i paid for. No ads, i do thank your tips right now i am going f swimming and needed the shoulder tip my shoulders having been giving me allot of movement pain...... 🙂↔️😮🙃😑
@snowpants22124 ай бұрын
"so long as you're pressing water back at the moment you're rotating, and not using the press to rotate"
@henrileroy24854 ай бұрын
To sum up, rotate with your legs, not with your arms.
@swimmastery4 ай бұрын
Rotate with your whole body. Shoulders to feet. (What we call the Frame). Limbs are there to use as levers to anchor on the water.
@henrileroy24854 ай бұрын
@@swimmastery I meant: the rotation of the whole body is performed by the kick of one leg at the right time. The arm should propulse only to the front. Not to help to rotate.
@rolandfisher4 ай бұрын
Who's limbs are falling off, and why aren't they going to a doctor?! If your limbs aren't connected to your body, you need medical attention right away.
@rnies6849Ай бұрын
would you please try to speak English? Your Australian is hardly understood. I give you a thumbs down
@royfr81362 ай бұрын
As always with swimming, why explain something in a short, concise and simple way when you can go on and on for a 47+ minutes....