Finding The Most Pointless MCU Post-Credits Scene

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The Marvel Cinematic Universe has been running for almost 15 years! Which means nearly 15 years of post-credits scenes, many of them promising new characters and exciting developments. But which of these scenes added up to the least? That's what I go over here.
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[@captainmidnight]

What is your favorite and least favorite Marvel post-credits scene? MERCH SALE: standard.tv/collections/captain-midnight

[@unofficialmeme5972]

Endgame's post credit scene with Mysterio is my least favorite.

[@M0no]

shawarma

[@onojioboardwalk9748]

.. The most 'Pointless' is actually 'black panther' the movie and its sequels themselves, Being that theyre neither legitimate movies or good.. That makes them something close to big dumb stupid post-credit-afterthoughts made into pseudo-movies made of vomit. Truth.

[@DemonicNightmare]

Not sure about favorite (though the Captain America one is pretty great), but my least favorite *type* of scene are the ones that are just a scene from an upcoming movie. Not a setup, like an actual scene. (The one with Thor visiting Dr. Strange comes to mind, but I feel like that isn't the only one.) The shawarma scene is definitely up there as a favorite for me, I really do love the little joke-y/goofy ones. I also think keeping post-credits scenes are fine, but they should stop using them to tease upcoming movies so heavily, and stick to a post-credits scene and not, like, multiple mid-credits scenes and a post-credits scene.

[@onojioboardwalk9748]

@@DemonicNightmare You or anyone should you use something too often even if its good at the beginning..? Itl turn bad eventually. It needs time to not be seen, Or heard from because a thing's value is best understood that way in this world by us.. Sort of like black panther, Except that doesnt need to be seen almost at all ever..

[@SuperFlik]

Surprised about the omission of Mordro's "too many sorcerers" scene at the end of the 1st Dr. Strange

[@raxxie]

this was the comment I came here for... we waited and there have been NO CONSEQUENCES. we've never even seen the 616 Mordo again, have we?

[@StuartLugsden]

He was suppose to appear at the beginning of Doctor Strange 2 where he confronts Wanda only to loose his head which she later shows to Strange when he turns up. It was cut because they didn't want to give away who the villain was so early. All we know is that he tried to kill Strange multiple times off screen and is still out there.

[@TrevorNWhite]

No kidding - I was sure they’d play that up in Multiverse of Madness, but for better or worse they went with Scarlet Witch.

[@CrashJakFan1994]

Just because it wasn’t addressed in “Multiverse of Madness,” it doesn’t mean we’ll never see him again. Maybe in another Doctor Strange movie in the future.

[@eastsidereviews727]

YO! I forgot homeboy said that. For sure pointless.

[@MrZachtheKingsfan]

I know people are kind of split on Endgame, but I give the Russo’s massive props for not including a post-credit scene. It perfectly ends a 10 year buildup without feeling the need to hop on to Phase 4.

[@theitalianalien8477]

People generally really liked that movie!

[@MrZachtheKingsfan]

@@theitalianalien8477 Maybe it’s the corner of the Internet that I’ve been on lately, but I’ve seen a lot of “Endgame was never good” kind of opinions pop up, which I get it. I don’t agree with it, but I know people find it hard to get behind the whole plot of the movie.

[@theitalianalien8477]

@@MrZachtheKingsfan general audiences are not frequent internet commentators

[@flowersinawasteland]

@@MrZachtheKingsfan I wouldn’t really classify it as high art or anything like that. It’s just fun. It does what it set out to do. Marcus from Cosmonaut variety hour puts it best. Avengers movies are like theme park rides. They’re not anything super deep and meaningful but they can still be a good time if the mood is right.

[@asgacc8789]

@@flowersinawasteland I like that before phase 4. There are parts/scenes that different people would enjoy, hence an almost perfect movie-series for family evenings The fact that it has continuity between movies also help with easing reality in after the movie ends, instead of throwing the audience out back to reality

[@Orochi2345678]

Gotta be honest, the post credits scene for Doctor Strange should’ve taken the top spot. Not only because it wastes a character (Baron Mordo) but because, unlike Vulture, they completely skip over the entire plot that the scene set up within the MCU itself! Years waiting for Doctor Strange 2 to feature Mordo coming back to hunt down Strange, Wong, and the other sorcerers. Yet Multiverse of Madness completely blows right by it while still referring to it! When Strange meets Illuminati Mordo he literally says that Mordo, from his universe, has tried to kill him various times! That means that the plot set up by the post credits scene did happen. The big shots at Marvel just decided not to give it to us on screen. 😂 Like that’s a colossal failure no matter how you look at it. And Chiwetel Ejiofor is also a great actor who basically got bypassed so Multiverse of Madness could focus on Wanda instead and give us a pretty meaningless version of the Illuminati.

[@Coolcoolcooldude]

Maybe in Scott Derickson's script 616 Mordo was more involved, but I don't know if that is true.

[@akilbrazier1421]

100% agree. That’s #1 for me with the Homecoming ending being a close 2nd. I remember I was really looking forward to seeing 616 Mordo again and seeing him face off against Strange and Wong in a sequel. But then we never got it. Such a dumb decision and huge wasted opportunity by Marvel.

[@WCA_Arts]

I totally agree with this… one of the weirdest moves the MCU has done.

[@Angel-Otk]

They could he saving him for the last of the movies as the big bad

[@alexmalcolm6309]

@@Coolcoolcooldude from what i've heard there was a scene that got cut where it would have turned out Wanda killed him offscreen

[@Bambo_waffle]

Adam Warlock is the longest wait for me

[@JamailvanWestering]

Probably Guardians 3

[@Bambo_waffle]

@@JamailvanWestering fingers crossed

[@tevcon317]

@@Bambo_waffle he's already confirmed and cast

[@BlueBlazeKing]

@@JamailvanWesteringor captain Marvel sequel. So it’s in the cards to be a possibility

[@loganbigmo]

@@JamailvanWestering Probably? You mean definitely. We know he's confirmed & even who's playing him

[@moxiemaxie3543]

Harry Styles getting hired for so many acting roles is proof that you don't have to have talent, just a popular personality

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Or a good agent

[@keem4154]

is he that bad?

[@Emiturbina]

@@keem4154 He's meh, not bad but not good

[@fanerv3304]

Isnt he fired already?

[@ssshar2176]

Or too much hype. Same can be said for Taylor Swift and her “acting”

[@IcyDiamond]

Scorpion and Mordo’s teases still haven’t gotten payed off, but hey at least The Leader will eventually come back in Captain America 4

[@anubusx]

I really wish that version of Mordo was in Multiverse Of Madness.

[@anubusx]

10 grand to create Scorpion. In today's economy lol. I always wanted Jason Statham as Scorpion.

[@thedick009]

What's frustrating about the Mordo one is it did pay off, we just didn't get to see it. Based on Strange's reaction to meeting 838 Mordo in Multiverse of Madness, is seems like 616 Mordo got an entire villain origin arc and at least one confrontation with Doctor Strange, off-screen between movies. Kinda lame.

[@anubusx]

@@thedick009 I agree it is annoying. I would've took the return of Mordo over some of the mcu films and shows.

[@ecurb_2558]

@@anubusx He was gonna get decapitated by Wanda. I'm glad he wasn't in it. Would've hated to see that

[@LegacyCreator27]

I think you're underestimating how much this post-credit scene is important for homecoming. The reason we have that scene is to make us realise that even Toombs, with all his flaws, recognises after seeing Spider-Man's strength and integrity that he is worth protecting. He's the kind of hero who will risk his life to save the Vulture and Toombs is an honest man. In saving him, Spider-Man proved to Toombs that he was worth protecting, and I think the scene is really effective in showing that.

[@quintusaquila34]

Exactly! The scene isn't entirely a pointless set up. While it slightly teases Mac Gargan's possible return as the Scorpion it really serves as a cap to the Vulture's arc at the end of Homecoming. Given the choice for revenge on Peter, he decides to instead protect him from Gargan. Also I feel that No Way Home's ending really kind of makes that scene (outside of the character stuff with Toomes) pointless as Toomes will (at least in the MCU) have forgotten that Peter is Spiderman.

[@V3myyy]

But then Morbius appeared and "uh oh" he doesn't care about protecting Peter anymore.

[@martinchuma]

*Toomes, not Toombs. Thought you were referring to Tombstone and got confused lmao.

[@thorjelly]

This. That scene was meant to be the closure to Toome's character arc. And it nails it. Makes it I think one of the best and most important MCU post credit scenes. It wasn't meant to be setup for the next spiderman villain. If and until MCU actually decides to do anything with the character, the Scorpion was just an easteregg for fans. Just like Aaron Davis. Just like the Tinkerer.

[@emiharith]

@@V3myyy i hope marvel ignores that and say "it's not 616 vulture" or something. sony wants the mcu hype but forgot to make it make sense

[@rogueguardian]

They really did botch scorpion in homecoming. What makes it worse is that they literally pulled vulture out of the MCU just to tease the very unlikely possibility of a sinister 6 movie.

[@IcyDiamond]

One of the major things that made Vulture compelling is that he was doing this all for his family, without his family in the Morbius universe, what are his motivations? To get back at a Spider-Man who’s done nothing wrong to him? How is that at all interesting?

[@diersteinjulien6773]

@@IcyDiamond the worst is that Homecoming's post credit scene shows him actively protecting Peter's identity, probably out of respect since he saved his life. He's the rare vilain that could have been redeemed. Hell, one of my friend was even arguing that they could have done an unlikely pairing of Vulture and Falcon, since they're both tech flyers with bird themes. Sure, they played the "redeem vilains" card in No Way Home in a very satisfying way, but the Vulture was Holland's redeemable vilain, he was missing

[@IcyDiamond]

@@diersteinjulien6773 Yeah you’re right! It’s almost like the people making Morbius didn’t care about Vulture as a character and just wanted Micheal Keaton and a vague MCU connection in the movie to sell tickets, but that couldn’t possibly be true right?

[@diersteinjulien6773]

@@IcyDiamond how Sony managed to make both the best MCU Phase 4 movie AND the worst squandering of opportunities at the same time is a mystery to me

[@IcyDiamond]

@@diersteinjulien6773 It’s because Marvel Studios helped them with No Way Home, without the help from Marvel Studios, I doubt the movie would’ve been as good, Sony has tunnel vision and thinks about the toy sales and spin-offs they can make before thinking about the plot, that’s how we ended up with Spider-Man 3 and The Amazing Spider-Man 2

[@Adamatronamus]

Hulk scene blew me away when I saw it. At the time, i had not idea the two films were connected. As an audience, it was the first hint of the MCU.

[@AndrewDukes]

Dude they mentioned stark industries, shield , and the super soldier serum in the movie lol you didn’t catch that the first time you saw it?

[@wolverineiscool7161]

@@AndrewDukes doesn't always mean its going to really be connected, nobody at that time even imagined something like it

[@AndrewDukes]

@@wolverineiscool7161 marvel isn’t the first company to make an interconnected universe though

[@StarryEyed0590]

@@AndrewDukes On the scale of the MCU (even Phase 1 MCU)? Yeah, they were. Nothing like it existed before, not on the big screen. Television shows sometimes had large connected universes with crossovers, but not movies.

[@AndrewDukes]

@@StarryEyed0590 yes there were, universal had crossovers with their monsters all the time. Also these characters crossed over in the comics for 80 years and they were made by the same studio making references to each other left and right, it’s extremely hard to miss them

[@BugsyFoga]

Knowing the mcu, they usually take years to ever acknowledge some of these characters again.

[@stormtraitor6545]

That actually is true. We did go 14 years without seeing Abomination.

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@stormtraitor6545 and it wasn't worth the wait Imagine the disappointment in future characters

[@BugsyFoga]

@@ninjanibba4259 I honestly wasn’t too disappointed with where they went with his character.

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@BugsyFoga they did literally nothing with him and made him a useless suck up....how are you not disappointed with that?

[@lovecraftianleviathan8918]

Probably the multiple mid-credit scenes of the big purple guy who smiled and then said he’d do it himself? It’s too bad nothing ever came of that.

[@jrobertlysaght]

I hear he's a minor villain in the second Deadpool or something. not sure though.

[@fashionablechangeling1988]

Did we even learn his name, or is it just something that nerds would know?

[@matthewjanzen4837]

@@fashionablechangeling1988 I'm pretty sure that was Captain Do-it-himself saying his signature catchphrase. Kinda glad that guy never came back, he's lame af

[@MrLachapell]

I think you meant the gold armour pink guy , we did get a bald purple guy but i don't think they are related ,

[@Emiturbina]

He appeared in the first Guardians movie but that's kinda it, idk why they showed him as intimidating, he gets beat up by someone called Squirrel Girl in the comics

[@davemcguckin8651]

Jameson was introduced properly in the most recent Spider-Man movie, and the fact he actively went to hunt Peter down is definitely something that could be setting up the Jameson/Scorpion storyline. I would be very surprised if he isn't the villain in the 4th MCU Spider-Man movie, especially if there's going to be a Black Suit Spidey storyline; potentially leading to Gargan becoming Venom right away, rather than having Eddie Brock be Venom in the MCU.

[@BetaCypher]

I've said this for so long 😭 shit would be fire

[@R0-83-RT]

I thought of them introducing Matt Gargan as Scorpion/Venon as well. This would kind of be a neat way of doing the Venom story line again without involving Eddie Brock, while giving the Scorpion some time at the spotlight. Also it can potentially help with Disney & Sony's relationship, so the MCU Venom doesn't steal Sony Venom's thunder.

[@skylerloggins4902]

I like the way you think

[@uzumakimadeit]

I was kinda thinking that ned could become hobgoblin, but I would be excited to see more Jameson too

[@Emiturbina]

@@uzumakimadeit That needs at least a movie before it can happen, we don't want another rushed friend turned goblin like the Harry from TASM2

[@Savataric]

The Dr.Strange one with Mordo just boils my blood more than the spiderman homecoming one with scorpion and they could've done so much with both and it has been 5-6 years since both released those post credits and no pay off just pisses me off

[@racool911]

Marvel loves the long game. Just be patient

[@Savataric]

@@racool911 but it’s weird the post credits scenes would’ve been payed off already in the sequels

[@hoponmybeef]

@@racool911 for the dr strange end credits scene with mordo, I dont think marvel is necessarily playing the long game with that one and I think they more so just scrapped that idea and pushed it aside because dr strange implies he already dealt with mordo in 616 during the second movie

[@ao2415]

@@racool911 more like they scrapped it, the next Dr strange movie gonna be him going to the dark dimension as continuation to MoM. Marvel just got tired with these weak villain and pull all the big guys to attract more fans.

[@cursedsailor7473]

In MoM, Strange said that Mordo already tried to kill him

[@smoyao93]

I think you’re missing the main point of why that Keaton scene works, it gives some closure to the Vulture’s hate towards Spider-Man, it shows he feels in debt with Peter for saving his life and he’s willing to protect his identity. It’s a scene that is meant to be more relevant for the movie you just watched rather than future sequela. The Scorpion tease happened way before in the movie itself.

[@ComedyBros5]

No, I don't think that was the end goal of the scene. It was definitely just a great setup that never happened.

[@Pit_Wizard]

The worst one to me is the one at the end of Thor: The Dark World. The Collector's line "One down, five to go." literally never went anywhere. It ended up being a total red herring.

[@mon_nobi]

Technically, it was followed up on in an episode of What If, where the Collector was the one who goes around gathering infinity stones instead of Thanos because TChalla Starlord convinced Thanos not to pursue that way of thinking

[@laundrybfunky]

Uhm.. it's setting up his apperance in Guardians and introducing us to that visual style of the MCU. The line is meant to solidify that he is the character The "Collector" It's also a cap-off to the movie in front of it, that started with showing where the Asguardians hid the Aether the first time and let's us know why Thanos would go there to get the Reality stone

[@brettedward2399]

Could not agree more about Mando's acting abilities, I'm still waiting on people to catch up. Way underrated.

[@justinhughees]

Amen brother

[@aleppo5398]

For real. He's fucking amazing in Better Call Saul.

[@MrLachapell]

Mando Brando

[@Sirenhound]

Iron Man 3's definitely had a reason to exist. It explained why Tony was narrating at the beginning.

[@axelnilsson5124]

Many movies have narrations by the protagonist and no one questions why

[@BambinaSaldana]

2:09 I love how they don't even show him throwing the shield, it's just already in the air.

[@andrewfollette5342]

My biggest issue with the credits scenes are the mid credits ones that feel like a much more impactful ending to the main movie, the most important one of these is the mid credits scene of Far From Home.

[@IcyDiamond]

I was watching a Freeform cut of Far From Home and they actually included the Mysterio exposing Peter scene at the end of the movie instead of after the credits

[@toasterbonanza9198]

One of my least favorites is the Clea mid credits scene in Multiverse of Madness, but for the opposite reason: Dr. Strange 2 had a very strong ending, but that scene completely undermined its impact.

[@jrobertlysaght]

Completely agree. And for me the most jarring case of this is Ant Man and the Wasp. The mid is amazing, because you forget, or think they aren't dealing with THAT MOMENT in this movie, so it shocking. But, when the end credit with the drum set happens, I felt this muddled 'what? Umm, ok? Why? Who cares? Still reeling from the midcredit scene' feeling about it. Feels like if my dog just died, and my neighbor is trying to talk to me about where to donate the leashes and remaining dog food.

[@akilbrazier1421]

@@IcyDiamond That actually sounds better as that scene should’ve been the end of the movie rather than a mid credits scene after the movie.

[@elmuchacho3379]

If memory serves me right, isn't Ragnarok's mid credit scene when they show thanos's ship?

[@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache]

I'm willing to bet that the villian of the next MCU Spider-Man movie will be Scorpion. Just have Kingpin be the one to fund the the Scorpion project, so that Daredevil and Spider-Man can Team-Up to defeat Kingpin and Scorpion.

[@mccinna5534]

I'd like that, I was pretty bummed out with Kingpin's role in the Hawkeye series.

[@Crysta1Pisto1]

This and then Mac Gargan also becomes the MCUs Venom. It’s literally all set up right there with an amazing actor for a repeated MCU Villain role.

[@racool911]

@@mccinna5534 I thought it was a perfect reintroduction for him lol

[@mattf5935]

@@mccinna5534 he was neutered from his Netflix days. He was truly menacing in a more impactful way than any MCU villain in the DareDevil show and then almost played for a joke with that shirt in Hawkeye. They need to study the way he conveyed his intelligence, determination, and fury in the Netflix show and do more to revive that if they are going to use him. Otherwise, it will be a disservice to the character.

[@juliandacosta6841]

@@Crysta1Pisto1 wouldn't you need venom to be around a while? Or just skip the first host and go straight to mac?

[@moonverine]

I was just thinking about this earlier. The post-credit stuff really reached its peak in Phase 1. There, they served to help build momentum to The Avengers, which was a kind of superhero movie we hadn't sen yet but comics fans had been wishing for for decades. After that, post-credit scenes feel progressively less important, to where now if they DO have a scene that tries to set-up a new character, it feels hollow and unmotivated. I think Marvel's reached the point where, if they want to use some new character, they just can, and they don't have to rely on trying too hook people with a stinger at the end of a film. I think of how they introduced Kang in Loki. It was a natural part of the show, and compromised an entire episode. They didn't need to end WandaVision with a teaser of Kang to get people to watch Loki for Kang.

[@commandercaptain4664]

My favorite is Stan Lee and the Watchers. I’m sure even he encouraged it due to his advanced age, but it still hits hardest and is more Marvel than some whole Marvel movies.

[@tomtudorweaver1078]

Since we got the setup of Peter now being back to a street level hero again, the Scorpion would be a perfect villain for the next film as he works great as a big threat at that level. The original comic and plenty of the animated adaptations do a great job of presenting the Scorpion as initially being this unstoppable, at times almost Terminator-like menace who just keeps chasing Spider-Man without tiring, with it only being because of his gradual mental instability that ultimately allows Spider-Man to defeat him. Even the 1967 cartoon I think captured that idea pretty well with how exhausted Spider-Man gets after their first initial encounter, and I think that would make for an amazing extended sequence where Spider-Man fails in the fight, tries to run, but the Scorpion just keeps coming after him leading to a chase that lasts longer than the initial fight. On top of all that, as you said Michael Mando is overqualified to play the Scorpion, who traditionally is more of a brute type character than anything else. That said, seeing how well the MCU has handled the Spider-Man villains so far, meaning they could probably make the Scorpion a far more compelling villain than he usually is, there's the further potential to see him go on to become the MCU's version of Venom in a follow up film, which to me would really highlight Michael Mando's acting range, whilst also making up for the over five-year wait for his MCU reappearance.

[@EidoEndy]

Scorpion is way underrated as a Spider-Man villain. And they totally had a perfect setup for it too.

[@loganbigmo]

Yup. But when it came to Michael Mando or Jake Gyllenhaal, they went with the latter as he's more big name. And then for NWH all the previous heroes & villains. Hopefully _Spider-Man 4_ dials down the "massive global stakes" back down to just personal, city level stakes & brings back Scorpion

[@anantonyproduction]

Kingpin hires scorpion?

[@EidoEndy]

@@anantonyproduction I’d rather see JJonah Alex Jones Jameson hire scorpion. He has a motive, and it will give him something to do in the film (plus he still needs comeuppance from the last film. The setup is a little different, but I think it still viable. Since spider-man is basically now a cryptid, Jones could hire a team of hunters and investigators to seek Spider-man out. Put in a Kraven the Hunter and/or a version of Eddie Brock if they want to go that direction.

[@anantonyproduction]

@@EidoEndy ok it kingpin movie

[@neallong2480]

What about “Too many Sorcerers” in the first Doctor Strange and Adam Warlock in Guardian’s of the Galaxy? I feel like those are pretty big ones as well.

[@loganbigmo]

Well, we know Warlock's in Vol. 3 so that scene wasn't pointless; just took a while to pay off. As for the "too many sorcerers" thing, we know from DS2 that Mordo's attacked Strange off-screen a few times in his quest to rid him. So it's not like those plots were abandoned, unlike the Scorpion one (as of right now, anyways.)

[@neallong2480]

@@loganbigmo fair points

[@_holy__ghost]

@@loganbigmo i personally feel that mordo's offscreen attacks on strange leave us in an even worse spot. it means that if mordo vs strange actually happens in a future MCU movie, we will have missed a huge (and arguably the most impactful) character moment between them - their first reunion. we just got confirmation that strange was forced to fight against his murderous ex-classmate, and we didnt get to see it. i feel like without us seeing that scene we lose so much context for their attitudes towards each other. the only thing i can think of to fix this would be making a prequel movie about them, but in that case it would have to come out in 2025 or some shit , or at least far enough into the future for the dust around multiverse of madness to settle. even then the prequel would need to have a pretty strange (hehe) ending, considering mordo is still a problem in the present, meaning he couldnt die or change his mind about sorcerers by the end of the movie

[@loganbigmo]

@@_holy__ghost I think them deleting the scene of Mordo's death also makes it worse in the bigger picture, because Mordo's goal was to get rid of magic users since they're dangerous. So since they deleted the scene of him confronting Wanda, canonically how come he didn't fight her for the Westview stuff? Or deal with Donny Blaze, who was abusing magic for clout? Or anyone else messing with magic? Because now even if a new threat emerges in a third movie it won't change the fact that we had all these magical abusers in Phase 4 & Mordo, who swore to fix it, did nothing.

[@fer8353]

What about the shang chi one I feel like they didn't mention it after that but it is pretty recent

[@JudgementNutter]

I'm sure Scorpion was originally going to be the villain in No Way Home, maybe having JJJ hire him to chase down Peter after the reveal. But after the success of Into the Spiderverse; critically, financially and with general audiences, Marvel/Disney wanted to cash in on their own Spiderverse. And it worked, look how successful it is because of bringing in past characters instead of making new ones.

[@KevvoLightswift]

Do you regret what they did?

[@narcisosanz8137]

I do regret. No Way Home (i think) feels a little undercooked as a story. It's not as bad as Far From Home, but still...

[@thatpeskyrat]

@@narcisosanz8137 I liked NWH a lot more than FFH personally. I think it could have easily fallen into the trap of nothing but shallow quips and nostalgia bait, but it does something actually meaningful with the idea of redeeming past villains and using the alternate peters as role models for MCU peter. My favourite part is probably the ending because it sets up MCU peter to be his own independent spiderman, but they probably could have managed that with a Scorpion plot too. What I hope they do next is tell a more peeled-back story that really lets spider-man shine as his own hero without too much help from others.

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

Actually, before they got permission from sony to do spiderverse stuff and bring in the other peters, it was gonna be a kraven movie

[@Smileyreal]

@@thatpeskyrat Honestly, the ending of No Way Home feels like they were removing what was unique about Tom's spiderman and turning him into a basic spiderman like the other 2 were. Making him independent is great, i'd love to see him do his own thing for once. But after 3 whole movies of differentiating him from the other guys, it's a bit sad to just go back on that.

[@StellarAvenger]

I love how Wakanda Forever used the first BP movie's post credits scene as the main catalyst for the movie's plot. Now that's probably one of the best uses of a post credits scene.

[@StudioInkblot]

At first I thought you meant the Bucky scene and was very confused

[@StellarAvenger]

@@StudioInkblot That's my fault, lol. I should've said mid-credits

[@ninjanibba4259]

You mean how they literally backtracked on the post credit scene for the plot of the movie? Cuz that's exactly what they did

[@StellarAvenger]

@@ninjanibba4259 They did, but T'challa revealing Wakanda's technological advancements and existence of vibranium lead to America searching for it which lead to Talocan taking action. That's what I'm getting at

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@StellarAvenger none of that made any sense cuz not only was it not shown, it was supposed to have the borders opened, IW talked about it like it was happening, then all the sudden it's gone back to hiding for no reason, especially when there was no threat in the time of the Blip That's called bad storytelling, there's no way around that when people were waiting and excited to see what would happen after so long...the fish people make even less sense with the involvement

[@cthellis]

Haha, that shield throw is going to haunt my dreams.

[@benwasserman8223]

Ant playing the drums in Ant-Man and the Wasp. It’s fun, but does little except a brief joke.

[@Adeseo]

I actually like it, it’s a bit of a joke but also is kinda ominous and adds a bit to the despair immediately post snap, which we saw far too little of. Yes, it doesn’t add much, but I think it does more than other post credits scenes that are just fun, brief jokes. I think I also prefer a brief joke that does nothing to a post credit that insinuates something that doesn’t actually end up being important

[@chasehedges6775]

I like it but it is DEFINITELY pointless

[@Del-Dokan]

@@Adeseo The most pointless post-credits scene would have to be in Captain Marvel when the cat coughs up the Tessaract

[@stevealford230]

It illustrates that everyone was snapped, with the ominous tv message and the emptiness... which then facilitates the juxtaposition of having a giant ant drumming in broad daylight, which wouldn't happen if people were around.

[@somethingclever4297]

He said jokes don't count. This is why you should watch the video before commenting.

[@SquashyButton]

What makes the Michael Keaton Vulture scene in Morbius even worse, is that in the Homecoming post credits scene, it's implied that Vulture doesn't want to keep fighting Peter/Spider-Man because he protects his identity from Scorpion. So, it doesn't make sense that he'd have a sudden change of heart in Morbius.

[@MichiMajor]

Completely agree about Scorpion. But perhaps he could be a side-villain in the next trilogy for at least a movie? In a post-NWH world, it would make sense with JJ having more of a reason then ever before to make sure Gargon becomes that. Also, I could do without every MCU movie having a post-credit scene. Only so long as there's a purpose for one

[@PrinceOfDragonstone]

Captain America 1 post credit scene is the best "I had a date" and fades off

[@universalcollective427]

I legitimately love BATTLESHIP, and I rewatch it at least once a year. It's so good. True story. This is not a troll.

[@Krikitt]

If it wasn’t a deleted scene, I’d say the post credits scene in The Wolverine. I remember being so hype to see the classic yellow suit. Still hoping we might see it in Deadpool 3.

[@axelnilsson5124]

The Wolverine isn’t MCU

[@Acro_YT]

Good news!

[@CommanderCourage]

The one I always think of is Thor’s with Loki possessing/influencing Selvig. It’s not followed up and actually contradicted!

[@drewmantia]

How so?

[@windowsVD]

@@drewmantia Because in The Avengers, it didn’t seem like Selvig was under Loki’s control until he used his scepter on him.

[@Anton-V]

I just HATE waiting for the credits to end just to get 10 seconds of text saying: "X Superhero will return", I'll take captain America's instead any day

[@themeanhornet1070]

I think the very 1st post credit scene I have seen was from a old 70s horror movie called “Frogs.” The movie poster showed a giant toad/frog with a human hand sticking out of its mouth. That scene was never in the movie, but if you wait a cartoon toad hops into the screen, turns and faces us, then finish eating that hand.

[@theragingrodent__]

Oh dude i remember that movie! I got it from the dollar bin at some supermarket when i was like 6 to watch on a road trip.

[@StuartLugsden]

Spiderman Far From Home is an example of how not to do post/mid credit scenes. That should have been at the end of the movie.

[@tristenrodrigue1814]

Spider-Man is getting the symbiote in secret wars have patience dude the movie is 11 months old

[@StuartLugsden]

@@tristenrodrigue1814 I made a mistake. I meant Far From Home.

[@suryajithnair2338]

but now it makes sense coz secret invasion is coming

[@mon_nobi]

One of the biggest issues with Phase 4 post credits scenes is that the set ups and mid/post credits are now supposed to be mysterious instead of a preview of what’s to come. Look at the infinity saga post credits: Nick Fury’s Avengers initiative reveal to Tony, Tony talking to Thaddeus Ross at the bar, Thor’s hammer, Thanos reveal, the Maximoffs reveal, Fine I’ll do it myself, Wasp suit reveal, Civil War cutscene in Antman, Captain Marvel distress signal, etc, all were teases for the future and not mysteries we the audience have to piece together like Shang Chi’s “the beacon”. Also they’ve gotten much weaker when it comes to building hype because they now use emotionally neutral cliffhangers instead of building hype that is positive or negative. Positive hype can lead to feelings of hope and anticipation (eg. The Avengers Initiative) whereas negative hype can lead to feelings of dread and impending doom (eg. Fine I’ll do it myself). But phase 4 post credit scenes are neutral, like you can’t tell whether the beacon in Shang Chi’s post credit scene will be a good or bad thing, and same with Doctor Strange’s new third eye since he seemed troubled by it but then was immediately fine with it. Same with the Eternals post credit.

[@dangerdan79]

Holy crap. BATTLESHIP has a post-credits scene. I saw this in theaters a decade ago, and never knew this until right here. That says it all, really.

[@ivane5110]

I had completely forgotten about the Scorpion already (sort of) existing in the MCU; I was always a fan of his, especially his Silver Age portrayal, so I'd love to see him in live action (even if they use some modern depiction or their imagining).

[@drewengel7073]

I'm confused why you think that the Dane Whitman post-credit scene won't be followed up to. He is main member of the Midnight Suns and we've only gotten two things past the scene with setting up the idea in the first place, Moon Knight and Werewolf by Night. If Dane doesn't show up in Blade or whatever follows that up, we can safely say that Black Knight was put on the cutting room floor. But as Marvel showed us with Shang-Chi characters that go missing for years can just showup all of a sudden.

[@AoifeOConnor1996]

@captainmidnight when you said “it’s actually the first MCU movie I ever made a video on” I suddenly flashed back to 2017. I was sitting in ireland, my grandad had just died and I was cleaning out his attic. I had just seen the spidey movie and was searching for KZbin reviews. I remember your video had me stop what I was doing and I sat down and paid full attention to the video, and glanced back at your other videos but you didn’t have many others. I’ve been watching every video as you’ve released it ever since. I’m not saying this because it was a seminal memory for me, but just that your videos have been a consistent part of my entertainment for five years. They’ve gone by in a flash, and a good quality video can make a lifelong fan, I suppose. Thanks for all your hard work!

[@sargon6000]

Not sure if entirely pointless, but still a few that should be given special mention: -Avengers 2: Thanos takes the infinity gauntlet from his... vault (?) and says "fine, I'll do it myself" as in he was tired of waiting for the infinity stones so he goes for them, but then it takes 3 more years until he attacks Xandar and begins to collect the stones. That's almost the time from his first appearance until Avengers 2. So then when did Thanos attack Nidavellir to force Eitri to make him the gauntlet? No way he attacked it while Odin was still alive, does that mean that the post-credits scene from Age of Ultron was actually a flash forward and it actually took place right after Odin died and during Hela's takeover of Asgard? How did that even go? Did Thanos just sense that Odin died and quickly rushed to Eitri's forge, forced him to make the gauntlet, took the gauntlet, put it in his safe, waited on his chair for some reason for a few days or weeks, then went to retrieve the gauntlet and immediately attacked Xandar, before heading towards Asgard? -The Winter Soldier: Baron Strucker gets set up to be this important player in the HYDRA story arc, like some Machiavellian mastermind about to start a new age, by creating Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch, only to be turned into an imbecile coward in the Avengers 2 intro, who refuses to use the twins to fight the Avengers because "they're not ready", even though they're far more ready that all the nameless HYDRA mooks the Avengers swat like flies in Sokovia and then finally Strucker gets killed off screen like a chump,.

[@anderurteaga3707]

I really expect Gargan to turn into MCU Venom, given that he's the second most famous owner of the name and that Hardy's Eddie Brock has no reason to truly hate Spider-Man. It would be a waste to just cast Mando for minor appearances, he deserves to be a memorable big villain; with just a threat at the end of Homecoming he already proved the menace he could represent for Spider-Man if he had any powers and knowledge of his secret identity.

[@fashionablechangeling1988]

I never thought about that but yeah, that would work

[@Ki_Adi_Mundi]

That Iron Man/Thunderbolt Ross scene was most definitely at least a mid credit scene when it was in theaters. I remember because I left the theater during the credits and afterwards a friends mentioned it to me and I had no idea what he was talking about since Iron Man wasn't in the movie I just saw.

[@Keizi]

What’s funny is you played the guardians of the galaxy post credit while talking about pointless ones but that credit is actually referenced in the second film during the opening credits. Baby groot dances the same way but a little more grown up and drax looks at him and he stops twice.

[@Collato]

I haven’t looked into it so maybe it’s already a scrapped idea but it would of been perfect for Scorpion to go after Peter and his friends and family in the beginning of No Way Home. Having an actually reason to go to Doctor Strange instead of, “boo-hoo my friends don’t get to go to the college they wanted,” a small role kinda like what Sam Raimi was planning with Bruce Cambell and Mysterio. But there was already so much going on in that movie I can see why they didn’t do something like that… even though they could of even just used Shocker or random thug with Spider-man villain name for a little easter egg.

[@brunopereira6789]

I really love post-credit scenes and I dearly hope they stay!

[@theuser_noshow3887]

Love your videos keep up your wprkflow

[@BenRigney480]

#BringBackVulture. That Morbius post-credits scene could explain that Adrian Toomes still knows Peter Parker and his secret

[@Vinny792]

In Doctor Strange (2017), the post credit scene was Baron Mordo taking away Johnathan Pangborn’s ability to walk and says “Because I see at long last what’s wrong with the world. Too many sorcerers.” The impression was that he would be the main antagonist for the sequel. But because the plot for the sequel involved the multi-verse, and Doctor Strange encountering alternate universe versions of previously established characters. There wasn’t really any room in the overall plot of Multiverse of Madness to follow up on Mordo’s intentions on murdering all sorcerers. I’m hoping there’s still a sequel in the works that will follow up on that setup. Because I would hate it if it’s just completely abandoned.

[@officialmonarchmusic]

Speaking of Spider-Man villains that have never gotten a role in the movies, I don't read the comics, so I might not know much about this, but I've always wanted to see a movie version of the Chameleon

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

I'd love to see him be used as like a secondary antagonist in a movie. I don't know if he could hold up as the main villain, but to have kingpin like hire him to steal something, or have him be sorta like the Nebula of a spiderman movie, where he's relentlessly coming after peter and trying to kill him, and with his powers, peter couldnt trust anybody (if they decide to do felicia hardy or another love interest for peter, it could be like the other love interest gets mad that he doesnt trust her)

[@officialmonarchmusic]

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 Again, I haven't read the comics, so I don't know very much about him, but what has he accomplished, and what are the times where he has really served as a threat. And is he always hired by people, or does he sometimes do things for himself. And lastly, what are the crimes he usually commits in Spider-Man comics?

[@a.KniteOwl]

yeah the "Spiderman Home" series is just a huge waste of Spiderman and his world building potential. He has the coolest villains in comic books and they could have woven an amazing fabric together from the setup in Homecoming. but nah. FFH is just Mysterio with some water holograms, and then NWH is just villains from other movies who temporarily got sneezed into our version of New York. sucks to be Vulture, Tinkerer, Scorpion, or Shocker!

[@dentangaji6161]

Exactly my problem with this "home"series. The villains in the first 2 movies do not feel as threathening as the other spiderman series and to add that, this peter got the assistance of high tech gadgets.

[@a.KniteOwl]

@@dentangaji6161 yeah the whole Home series was just wasting and destroying momentum. nothing is established at the end except that....he's gonna be Spiderman more. and live in an apartment and have a secret identity. his character never really mattered in these, it was just whatever Marvel wanted to project temporarily to the audience

[@CastellANM]

The post credit scene from Civil War contradicts Homecoming (Peter's black eye lol)

[@aurrickan]

the thing with the post credits scenes like this, they can get to it eventually. the MCU isn't going anywhere, and marvel has shown they're willing to pick up on really old plot threads, like with abomination in she hulk

[@jaikobie1353]

Michael Mando is one of those actors that genuinely scare me with his performance

[@thekuppi1834]

I think they could have done a little more about the collector going for infinity stones, the post credit scene of Thor 2 promised someone else going for them besides Thanos but it never really paid off

[@samevans9167]

still can’t believe they teased Tom Hardy’s Venom interacting with Tom Holland’s Spidey only to send him back to his universe without doing anything

[@1FenFen1]

Ah, it's Marvel. They don't know how to execute good ideas! (especially with most of Phase 4/5(...only phase 4/5))

[@trendsweater2273]

Great vid dude!

[@ahmetkurum4114]

Scorpion would makes sense if it's made by Kingpin. Fisk needs muscle to go agaisnt Peter and it would makes more sense for him to create Scorpion. And putting Daredevil into the movie create great tension between Murdock, Peter and Fisk. Just imagine the emotions Cox would be able portray with his Matt being in a situtation where he has to defend Fisk, with a little moral nudging from Spidey.

[@jamiemartin6603]

That credit scene in Far From Home where Peters identity is revealed is probably one of my favourites if not my favourite credit scene because of the pure shock factor, ties in well with the movie and a great set up for the next movie that really payed off well in No Way Home

[@ComedyBros5]

Other than it doesn't make a damned bit of sense.

[@aakarshverma5793]

@@ComedyBros5 to you

[@ComedyBros5]

@@aakarshverma5793 Take off your "MCU is great" blinders. How does it make sense? Why is everyone suddenly going to believe this random hero that pops up out of nowhere, over an Avenger that's very widely known as the good guy?

[@aakarshverma5793]

@@ComedyBros5 i didn't say mcu is great, I'm not liking the new movies so far About the ffh, it's up to you how you see it, no movie ever makes sense unless its a documentary...no marvel movies are supposed to make sense, if you go that hard, the logic isn't truly bad, you're just hating it for hating

[@bannacis]

Great video!

[@aninen46862]

I'd love a movie with Garfield's Spiderman, JK Simmons' JJJ and Mando's Scorpion. It's a no-brainer, really, to bring back to the big screensome of that friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man like in the Fox animated series.

[@bandawin18]

I'm surprised that a video about pointless post credits scenes didn't include the one from Ant-Man and the Wasp, which is literally just a big ant playing drums

[@user-qv2mc3dw5o]

Nah, the ant is actually the villain in the next avengers movie. I know cuz my uncle works at disney.

[@chriscanul4075]

The Civil War post-credit scene was the most pointless one IMO. The watch never came back and now that Spider-Man is without any of Stark's technology it can't be used. It was likely that all it was there for was to tease future Spider-Man projects, but that was kind of obvious, no?

[@holoboy0123]

Thank you, I was looking for this

[@JamesLawner]

Technically, we got that with the suit AI, Karen.

[@kleini3]

The best post credit Scenes where when u sat in the cinema and while the credits roll u discus with ur mates if the movie got it ne or not

[@Lanier2369]

The homecoming end scene even if it doesn't lead to anything else gave me the awesome thrill of having two of my favorite actors of all time together in one scene, Mando and Keaton. That in and of itself is good enough for me even if it leads nowhere.

[@byrohchi]

I think the more misleading one is in Thor 1, where Loki is secretly communicating/controling Selvig, when that's never brought up again, and seems at odds with the way loki can mind control people in that movie

[@mon_nobi]

It was retconned in The Avengers, and Selvig being under Loki's spell was a big plot point for the whole skybeam thing in that movie

[@Txouci]

My understanding was that the Incredible Hulk scene where Tony Stark meets up with Ross was a post-credits scene that the studios then moved into the film proper after they saw the excitement at the Iron Man post-credits scene generated.

[@DeadlyAlienInvader]

5:02 that’s funny to me because I always thought that Scorpion is the coolest looking spiderman villain.

[@ciarankreidler]

favorite post credits scene was infinity war, not for the captain marvel setup (couldve done without it tbh) but for the MAYHEM it shows. i remember thinking during the credits just how much destruction would be caused by the sudden disappearance of half of society

[@geraldvogelsang9556]

I feel like No Way Home's were a waste I would have loved if the first one was something for Garfield's. And the final one could have just been as simple as Tobey's Peter coming home to Kirsten Dunst's MJ and they maybe have a kid or something. No need for a joke or a setup. Just leave us with the same warm fuzzy feelings that Endgame left us with using Steve and Peggy.

[@rogerdrayer1503]

Definitely Doctor Strange/the Mordo setup. One throwaway line to explain why nothing ever came of it while also making sure to tell us that nothing ever will. Unlike Homecoming, where they could at least bring the Scorpion back in the future, MoM made it pretty clear that main-universe Mordo was done and over, dealt with entirely off-screen.

[@narcisosanz8137]

MoM was so stupid it not only ruined Doctor Strange's post credit scene, but that WandaVision darkhold scene as well. The kids were calling Wanda >>IN DANGER

[@superjew837]

On the complete opposite side of the coin as after-credits sequences that build up plot points with no payoff, the after-credits scene where they reveal Nick Fury’s scar just came from a cat?? That could’ve been so cool!!

[@JustJulyo]

Black Panther: Wakanda forever was the first post credit scene that made me really question if its worth staying around for the credits Feels like there won't be any pay off in the near future and left me questioning it more than getting me excited

[@fransesco9703]

Are you going to make a video on Andor? Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the show and the future of SW/Disney+ shows in general

[@peterfrank3365]

I think by the end of Phase 3, MCU has lost the art of mid and post credit scenes. They've mostly become a parody at this point. The 'Eternals' one with Harry Styles is the worst one, but what peeved me most was the 'Infinity War' post credit scene. I think Fury dusted along with the population, nearly uttering Samuel L. Jackson's favorite word, is welcomed bit of humor. But rather than emphasize Thanos's damage, it's used to promote 'Captain Marvel', who at best *is* pointless. It detracts from the tone that was set for the ending of the movie.

[@fashionablechangeling1988]

I think the CM tease in Infinity War was there to provide a moment of hope for the audience because the audience was cheering for that scene both times I saw it after the gut punch we just sat through.

[@godzillafan1202]

the first Doctor Strange post credit scene is definitely up there

[@insanityrabbit2406]

Yeah, Michael Mando was the first one I thought of. Not a big 'actor fan' other than this guy, ever since FC3. Surprised he doesn't get many more leading roles, as he's been so amazing in everything I've seen from him

[@michaeldunkerton3805]

I'd class the Venom one as a joke rather than actually promising anything. I'll definitely second that Mordo is the worst offender and yet another nail in the coffin for MoM. Dr. Strange basically says of the "prime" Mordo: "yeah he turned into a villain and we had a great interesting adventure. But you won't see that movie, instead you have to watch this one."

[@bdroop6100]

Adam Warlock teaser at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy 2. If they don't follow up on that in GG3, you can add it to the list.

[@newspooiechannel]

You are right about the Tony Stark scene in Incredible Hulk feeling like it was thrown in at the last moment. It was! Feige thought it would be a treat for people who went to see Iron Man to have him be in there and then realize it was a shared universe, which hadn't been done before in any of the comic movies. It was an afterthought. Iron Man's post-credit scene was also sort of a last minute thing, if they were able to get Sam Jackson to come in, appeasing fans who suggested he looked like the Marvel Ultimates version of the character. After that, it became a staple of the series.

[@dyersituationcosplayadvent3326]

It was about just putting a team together, not about teaming up against Hulk

[@GLC48]

Never forget about the the post credits scene in the Green Lantern movie LMAO

[@bassandtreble6616]

With the symbiote tease at the end of No Way Home I’d love to see Scorpion being the main villain created by Val instead of Jameson and a reject Thunderbolts member. Spidey would fight him before getting the symbiote and gets beaten. After dawning the suit he defeats Scorpion but almost kills him in the process and he’s brought back to the moment he almost killed Norman and spares Gargen

[@canpigsfly]

You guys remember how TWO post-credits scene teased the importance of Captain's Marvel entry into the MCU at the end of the infinity saga but then had her have so little relevance in Endgame?

[@claytonrios1]

You mean like the "Patience" scene involving Captain America? It was a funny joke but still pretty pointless.

[@CartoonPostyt]

Doesn't matter that it was pointless imo. It was funny.

[@claytonrios1]

@@CartoonPostyt That's clearly what it was intended to be.

[@CartoonPostyt]

@@claytonrios1 funny or pointless?

[@claytonrios1]

@@CartoonPostyt Funny

[@AceYonder_306]

one of the post credits that promised a setup & just never happened was Dr Strange post credit where Mordo was stealing magic from other wizards & then they just wrote him off in the next strange film, like I wanted to see that mordo vs strange fight bc in the comics Mordo was like Dr Stranges red skull, his lex luthor if you will, I really hope they deliver with mordo in the future & the actor who played him really brings mordo to life

[@theamyway4832]

It HAS to be the second end credits at the end of Multiverse of Madness. Waited 10 minutes just to see the guy stop punching himself...

[@hobbricks_lego_man]

I would argue the Far From Home post-credits scene was also pretty pointless, considering that the next movie decided to rush over any potential consequences of Peter having his identity revealed by resolving it in like, 10 minutes at the beginning of the film.

[@stevealford230]

Homecoming Cap by a mile. The drumming ant had more purpose than that bad joke that mocked the fans and the very habit of waiting to watch those scenes.

[@Wooshey_Wooj]

Completely agree. And I remember this post credit scene the first time I saw it in theaters. He gave me chills. That’s never happened. Aside from thanos and killmonger. Maybe vulture when they came to that scene in the car when he was threatening Peter. But the way he explains how he wanted to kill. Spider-Man was a real psychopath. Talking about slitting his throat and putting his head in the washing machine or something? I gotta go back to it. It felt extreme. In the best way possible. Even vulture, who had me for a moment in the car scene was shook. 😂. I really hope this is not an abomination situation again where they wait way too long. If they do this correctly, they can make him the only villain of Spider-Man 4 and make it street level and I think it would work. But! It’s only takes him like the vulture we’re screwed.

[@IantheDugan]

The answer is Morbius. Yes. But within MCU? - Fury and Hill being Skrulls actively hurts story - Strange/Cleo is the most cliche cliche to ever cliche. A parody of Marvel post credits. Similar vibes for Hercules. - Too many sorcerers. Rip Mordo, lost to MCU narrative saturation.

[@SuperSisby]

I forgot about so many of this end credit scenes, but the one with Venom teleporting out made me so upset. I was so excited to see him and they just did Nothing.

[@Emiturbina]

The symbiote is now in the MCU tho, we will now have a black suit plotline instead of going to Venom right away

[@Zombiesnyder13]

Everything was heading towards INFINITY WAR and ENDGAME Now the MCU became one big bubble, ready to burst

[@anubusx]

Like the one at the end of Ang Lee's Hulk.

[@arubinojr5670]

The one at the end-end of Homecoming was a cute joke but then they kept doing basically that unironically and I gave up staying. Luckily it seems they've moved the "important" ones to after the main credits.

[@middleman5484]

7:40 I just realized that Adrian was standing in this scene instead of flying. Jesus for a middle aged man Adrian is strong.

[@grapesalt]

I think the most pointless post-credits scene was the doctor strange multiverse of madness one. It was just completely useless.

[@NotAustii]

@Herb Coswell Fully agree. We literally had 2 credit scenes in MOM. One to setup a future Strange story and another as a nod to Raimi fans. People just be complaining about anything nowadays since MOM wasn't a cameo-fest with 100 characters

[@IcyDiamond]

Are you talking about the first or second one? Because the first one is too early to decide on wether its going to factor into future movies or not, and the second one is just a funny Bruce Campbell cameo that’s not meant to set anything up

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

I consider the Bruce Campbell one the best post credit scene of Phase 4. Everything else is such a cheap set up for future movies that no longer interesting, so a little joke is refreshing.

[@BaloonBoy7]

The first one absolutely will be followed up on, it would be funny if we just see Strange again and he's back on earth and makes no mention of Clea but that's not going to happen. And the second was a nice Raimi joke