finding value in obscure art

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pato

pato

Күн бұрын

intro/claymation made by kesiah : / kesiah___
intro song made by qiri : linktr.ee/qiri...
socials: linktr.ee/pato6
things:
wax or the discovery of television among the bees (1991)
cat soup (2001)
zone (1995)
angels egg (1985)
tekkonkinkreet (2006)
the sounds of science (2001)
xiao wu (1997)
ping pong the animation (2014)
walking (1968)
le chant du styrene (1958)
white rock (1977)
glitterbug (1994)
skinamarink (2023)
wavelength (1967)
puparia (2020)
daybreak express (1953)
bridges-go-round (1958)
ghost (1984)

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@rrrrrrosiles
@rrrrrrosiles 3 ай бұрын
I’m starting a “bad drawing club” at a local gallery, and this pops up on my feed. It’s kinda creepy, but I’m grateful I clicked on it. Thanks
@random.oddities
@random.oddities 3 ай бұрын
Nice!
@anorthkey
@anorthkey 4 ай бұрын
"The only way to fail in a creative setting is to not create" yees and also you found words on why i love so much hidden bands and weird animations ! ^^ thanks for making this :3
@alsopato
@alsopato 4 ай бұрын
omg hey! i saw your most recent animation before making this and really liked it thats rlly cool u found this
@anorthkey
@anorthkey 4 ай бұрын
@@alsopato OMG NO WAY
@koiifsh
@koiifsh 4 ай бұрын
hello !! do you like sodikken, by any chance?
@TED.WANTS.TO.LEARN.
@TED.WANTS.TO.LEARN. 4 ай бұрын
i was just about to quote that, it really really resonated
@anorthkey
@anorthkey 4 ай бұрын
@@koiifsh yes i do ! Their music is really calming and like no other, also their animation are in a delicious chaotic soup :3
@Fenilee
@Fenilee 4 ай бұрын
Would have loved to get the names of the movies/shows that the clips were from on the screen or in the description. Good video tho!
@alsopato
@alsopato 4 ай бұрын
wax or the discovery of television among the bees (1991) cat soup (2001) zone (1995) angels egg (1985) tekkonkinkreet (2006) the sounds of science (2001) xiao wu (1997) ping pong the animation (2014) walking (1968) le chant du styrene (1958) white rock (1977) glitterbug (1994) skinamarink (2023) wavelength (1967) puparia (2020) daybreak express (1953) bridges-go-round (1958) ghost (1984)
@Fenilee
@Fenilee 4 ай бұрын
@@alsopato thank you!
@Fenilee
@Fenilee 4 ай бұрын
@@alsopato I've heard of some of these but don't think I've watched any yet!
@nendu4316
@nendu4316 3 ай бұрын
lol your name is the combination of me and my cats name Fenny and Lee, didnt commit to lee fully yet but hes getting microchipped tmmrw. ima take this as a sign and run with it
@Fenilee
@Fenilee 3 ай бұрын
@@nendu4316 wait omg that's incredible!! ♥️♥️♥️ good luck
@killyvv
@killyvv 3 ай бұрын
This is exactly why I love messy drawings there's something so raw and relatable about them
@rebareads
@rebareads 4 ай бұрын
Loved this. I recently took a class learning how to make a wooden box with hand tools. I went in with the attitude: “I’ve never made a box before. It will be imperfect and bad but that’s okay. I will have learned how to make a box.” And then I made a box and had the most wonderful time. I’m so inspired to keep making things and celebrate others for making things now. Thanks pato :)
@bcarefulwhatuwishfor
@bcarefulwhatuwishfor 10 күн бұрын
"class solidarity but for talent" is so funny but so real
@sanephele
@sanephele 4 ай бұрын
thank you so much for great recommendations and inspiration! your colour-hued photos were magical, definitely should try it out
@missmonke8706
@missmonke8706 2 ай бұрын
This was absolutely lovely
@TonyHightower
@TonyHightower 3 ай бұрын
I only know Jim O'Rourke as a producer, but he's worked on a lot of cool stuff. Right on. (This is a super inspiring video, BTW.)
@Touhou-j8g
@Touhou-j8g 3 ай бұрын
I've always been an anime, manga, and videogame fan, but it wasn't until a few years ago that i found the Touhou Project. I was trying to see what inspired the Undertale soundtrack, and there's a lot of Touhou DNA in it. Touhou games, official ones, are all made by 1 guy. He goes by ZUN. He programs them, writes them, composes for them, and draws for them. His character design is so good, so simple and tactile, and he's bad at drawing.... I read something saying he learned how to draw clothes first, and then the bodies.... But he got better as he continued. He's even made a little OC for a beer convention, because he loves beer. And yet, his music is so refreshing, it's so original, inspired...and he wears his musical inspirations in his sleeves, and he follows his intuition. ZUN also adds little composer comments to his pieces, and they're all so interesting to me. One of them says he wanted to get the feeling if running in a cool limestone cave, running your hand on the wall- but he suggests you don't do that, it's dangerous (it's the comment on Desire Drive). Many of them are him saying he got a little tipsy, and just had fun. He's made the idea of composing music more tangible, like it's something i can do. I'm just arranging his stuff now, but he's made the process more human. He also considers Touhou to be so derivative that he doesn't enforce cooyright really strongly. So fans are pretty much free to do everything they want (he asks that you don't show him the NSFW though, he knows). Infact, one of *THE* most popular Touhou videos is Bad Apple!!, it's the music video entirely in black and white. It's a fan-made video, with fan-made music, based on his characters, and his music. A fan had an idea for a cool video idea for Bad Apple!!, and made a storyboard for it with crude drawings. Other fans made videos based on that fan storyboard, until one fan released the iconic video with over 50Mil views. Always create things. Even if it's scuffed.
@devilmah
@devilmah 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for making this video
@wordsoflife42
@wordsoflife42 2 ай бұрын
This makes so much sense for me. Deeply intuitive, much appreciated 🙏
@firststuffs
@firststuffs 3 ай бұрын
btw if you're looking for more low budget stuff w non actors I would highly recommend Matt Johnson's work! super unique filmmaking style that makes for really authentic performances. it's why the dirties is one of my favorite movies of all time
@MiBox-jn6vx
@MiBox-jn6vx 4 ай бұрын
this is really nice if you make more of these know that I'll be seated
@enoughvincent
@enoughvincent 3 ай бұрын
Oh man listen to Jim O’Rourke I’m begging you!!! He’s like a ghost that’s been haunting me for all my teenage years but whom I found about only recently. I first heard him while watching a movie called Love Liza, where one of his songs was used. He also worked with many cool bands, most notably Sonic Youth. Now he’s chilling in Japan from what I understand. His albums Eureka and Insignificance aren’t on spotify but they are one of my favourite albums in the last few months. There’s just so much stuff surrounding him I recommend checking him out if only for the paths he may lead you on.
@beangobernador
@beangobernador 4 ай бұрын
funny, I’m making a video on why we must devalue art, especially “great” art. I think people (as in artists) glorify art way too much, this video is the perfect example for my video essay! I can even see this video being psychoanalyzed! I don’t have an audience anyway, so it’s fine to use some of this footage right?
@alsopato
@alsopato 4 ай бұрын
feel free
@HDmc16
@HDmc16 3 ай бұрын
damn dude don't sleep on jim o'rourke
@ariabk
@ariabk 4 ай бұрын
8:33 what website is this
@oldnews8268
@oldnews8268 4 ай бұрын
pleasant vid
@eliasmanriquez133
@eliasmanriquez133 3 ай бұрын
Art will be like “I’m art” and people will be like “yeah man”
@KyraNightingaleMiloSkye
@KyraNightingaleMiloSkye 3 ай бұрын
one of the reasons I love fanfiction so much is because it's obscure and passion-driven. I've seriously read fic that's affected me much more deeply than anything published
@magentafox1657
@magentafox1657 2 ай бұрын
Same one fic I read I realised I connected so much to a certain character and learned a ton about myself (did a ton of reflection, really helped me. I left a comment and the author had such a sweet response I cried)
@Evoral
@Evoral 6 күн бұрын
What you described definitely applies to fanfiction so well and I love this unappreciated art form. The same as I love anything that comes from underground spaces. There is so much value telling stories that are raw, real and intimate human experiences, even though you still need to dig and explore these spaces to eventually find something that resonates. It's the best tool for self discovery I've found so far.
@thirdwheel9938
@thirdwheel9938 3 ай бұрын
"bad art" has inspired me to create, I don't care if 3 people like my shit as long as it really connected with those 3 people Shoutouts to all the artists behind those weird, imperfect games on itchio, idk what I'd do without yall
@lee_rayyy58
@lee_rayyy58 19 күн бұрын
Love itchio visual novel games! It reminds me of my middle school days can’t wait to go home to play those really niche games. Felt like my guilty pleasure, but it shouldn’t have to be
@radiowlet
@radiowlet 3 ай бұрын
I once saw a tumblr post that really resonated with me that said something along the lines of "make bad art, you'll never make any art if you don't." on another note that i couldnt think of a smooth transition to, i think it's also important not to view "bad" art as only a stepping stone to "good" art, or that your older work becomes less valuable as you improve. going back to the post, i think its important to note how it says you won't make *any* art if you don't make bad art, rather than saying you won't make *good* art. "bad" art has and always will have value. Its easy for me to point and laugh at the ms-paint-with-a-mouse warrior cats art I made when I was 9, things that I remember being so proud of that look terrible to me now, but I wouldn't be at the skill level I'm at now if it weren't for the things I created then. Not only that, but the things I created as a child were more raw and unfiltered than the things I make now. I was just a kid having fun, I resent how much I worry about creating something "good" now, and how I worry about how the things I create will be perceived. cringe culture has really done a number on artists online (and im a furry artist, so no matter what i make there's always gonna be SOMEONE to judge it...) it feels like we've forgotten that to create is to be human.
@naufal-ut1mh
@naufal-ut1mh 3 ай бұрын
so well put
@demiremi
@demiremi 2 ай бұрын
Well said!
@noteven5ft2
@noteven5ft2 Ай бұрын
gold comment.
@sherryzhang9280
@sherryzhang9280 25 күн бұрын
Beautiful
@watchingfilms-z9c
@watchingfilms-z9c 4 ай бұрын
Please, feel free to make more video essays, I really love your takes on art
@mckennagraymusic
@mckennagraymusic 4 ай бұрын
yes please ^^^^
@yenasung
@yenasung 4 ай бұрын
“It wasnt hard and it doesnt have to be” 👏🏻🙌🏻 Loved this. Groundbreaking.
@Rachel-6016
@Rachel-6016 4 ай бұрын
“You’re better off finding something that was made with the audience as an after afterthought, over something engineered to appeal to the most people possible.” Love this Pato, great video essay. Reminds me of that video where MrBeast cycled through over a hundred thumbnails after a video was uploaded to see what amassed the most clicks… not necessarily an art form but that hyper surveillance of numbers reminded me of the drop off in niche, ridiculous fun art that just exists to exist.
@mariekaomar
@mariekaomar 2 ай бұрын
It sounds nice and motivational but doesn't apply to every art form. you can't have any kind of performance art or acting without an audience. Not thinking about an audience will bring your quality down significantly in this case
@AlLeftyPenguino
@AlLeftyPenguino 4 ай бұрын
I, and I assume many others watching this, have extreme difficulty with self-worth due to the lack of feeling “talented.” I stray myself away from things I enjoy as I would solely focus on others, and the talent-gap between me and them. I could go on, but instead, I would like to shout out those records, films, books, photos, media that brings me that feeling of “I could possibly do that.” A good example of this is “Paris is Burning.” A wondrous documentary about the Mid-80s balls for queers in New York. It made me feel as I could be the one behind the camera, documenting and bringing forth knowledge to me, and whoever will watch it. Also would like to shout the likes of Will Toledo, Daniel Johnston, and Sibylle Baier for making me push towards my own music endeavors. Anyways, lovely video, and really inspiring in a way that doesn’t feel stupid upon reflection on myself if that makes any sense :)
@volantera
@volantera 3 ай бұрын
"Practicing an art, no matter how well or badly, is a way to make your soul grow, for heaven's sake. Sing in the shower. Dance to the radio. Tell stories. Write a poem to a friend, even a lousy poem. Do it as well as you possibly can. You will get an enormous reward. You will have created something." - Kurt Vonnegut
@yapicoo
@yapicoo 4 ай бұрын
i ate pasta while seeing this, it was nice
@syds.corner
@syds.corner 2 ай бұрын
ideal experience
@bigickmonster
@bigickmonster 4 ай бұрын
change ur name to PLATO CUS UR SPITTING PHILOSOPY
@kiah9085
@kiah9085 3 ай бұрын
Yeeees. My first ever anime was life changing because of this. Mob psychos thesis statement is that if your aren’t special you can be anything, and the main character is someone who has no interest in what he’s good at and wants to get better at things he’s naturally bad at. And if you look at the manga art instead of the show, with no offense meant, it’s clear the author believes it and has practice because he’s a bad artist. If it looked polished and perfect from a rich guy known for all this stuff I wouldn’t take it as seriously but the lesson of try things to be the best most happy you no matter if you’re skilled or not has been life changing
@fireworksfordinner
@fireworksfordinner 4 ай бұрын
This is the exact takeaway I hope people have from my animation work. I want people to see my animations and think "Hey maybe I could do that?" and then I want them to go do it!
@Ozloz
@Ozloz 3 ай бұрын
I’m so sick of every single comment on an artists page whose art isn’t “pretty” going “if it wasn’t difficult was it really art?” YES???? Since when was the rule for art “difficult?” Yet you’ll praise someone for doing a “pretty” piece of art easily. Art has always been about expression and creation and passion, not breaking your fucking wrist
@owenlevan-uhler7115
@owenlevan-uhler7115 2 ай бұрын
you can have ideas and never have a product, but you can never have a product unless you have ideas. art is more than just the painting, the photo, the album, the movie: it’s the ideas and intentions that went into it
@aspen-r5j
@aspen-r5j 4 ай бұрын
i will recommend junk head (2017), silly stop motion movie made over the course of 7 years by basically just one guy
@DragonWistArt
@DragonWistArt 3 ай бұрын
"The things that you tuck away for fear of a review that says ‘there is a PROBLEM with this art because it has always been done another way’ THOSE ARE YOUR SUPERPOWERS. the gatekeepers want you to tuck those parts of yourself away because THEY TUCKED AWAY THOSE PART OF THEMSELVES. Never forget that your unique way is PURE UNFILTERED 100 PERCENT ROCKET FUEL" -Chuck Tingle This video and that post by chuck (one of my favourite erotica authors) are so genuinely inspiring. I think we're all too afraid of creating something bad. But really, when I love so much 'bad art', do I actually care? If I can love strange and unpopular things, maybe I can create something thats important to at least one other weird human like me. I also enjoy the idea of creating for myself. Sometimes I don't want to be 'good'; I want to be ME.
@ThomasPaceFilms
@ThomasPaceFilms 2 ай бұрын
I studied film in college, and over time I began to realize that I could not keep up with what a lot of my peers were making. So many people were trying their best to make the most technically astounding short films that they could, and it was all very impressive. However, whenever I set out to do things like that, I found that I became overwhelmed quickly. So, I started to organize smaller shoots with smaller crews. It got to the point that it was just me and a camera, shooting with one or two actors. I found that reducing the amount of equipment I brought along freed me up to be more creative. I've taken that philosophy to heart since graduating a few years back, and try my best to make only what inspires me. It's resulted in a lot of rough art that not many people enjoy, but I'm okay with that. Sometimes I still get insecure, but at the end of the day, I would much rather be making something that inspires me than being bogged down trying to make the most technically-astounding thing I can. Great video. Love it.
@sboofasoups
@sboofasoups 4 ай бұрын
buttery asss voice
@rko2016
@rko2016 4 ай бұрын
i think junji ito is a cool artist but i can't help but feel it's really strange and in poor taste to make a horror comic book out of whats essentially someone's suic... note
@jakejars
@jakejars 3 ай бұрын
I am still watching as I comment here and never normally comment (so bear with me), but I have to say that this video has finally verbalised something I have been feeling over the past few years Going from initial inspiration of the (realistically) unattainable examples we come across CAN be discouraging because you want to reflect and honour what inspired you This take kind of reminds me of the saying "perfection is the enemy of good" - not to say that your art can't be perfect if it doesn't come out exactly how you view it in your minds eye, but ultimately it is as you said, you are doing yourself a disservice if you do not act on inspiration that you gain from consuming others art - make art for you, it is your responsibility to document your take on the human experience
@emaciatedunicorn
@emaciatedunicorn 3 ай бұрын
not even halfway through the video but this is how I feel about outsider and lo-fi music!!! I've always written songs but never bothered showing anyone or playing them for people because I had this expectation for what music should be. then I listened to "all hail west texas" by my now favorite band, The Mountain Goats, and was like "this sounds terrible. I can't stop listening to it. I feel so attached to this and it sounds sonically terrible." for context, AHWT was recorded by frontman john darnielle on a boombox in his basement using only his voice, a guitar and a casio electric piano. it has some of the most raw and heart wrenching narrative lyricism like, in music history I'm pretty sure, and every TMG fan probably has an infodump for it. Listening to the mountain goats' boombox albums instilled this belief that my music can be heard to by any means necessary. After I became knee deep in TMG obsession I discovered Daniel Johnston. His music is true outsider, and he's the most famous outsider musician point blank. He taught me and many others that if you have heart and honesty you can inspire people. Anyways, music autism aside, engaging in and loving poorly produced music has taught me so much and now I have like, hundreds of voice memos of my songs at various stages of completion.
@erikasolnc
@erikasolnc 4 ай бұрын
I never met another person that likes obscure stuff like this, and I had a hard time describing to myself what and why I like this. This video is amazing! Thank you so much! I'm obsessed with obscure art. I hope some people will share stuff that they like here, because I'm hungry for art like this. I will share some too: Hylics and Hylics 2 (video games), 1001 Nights (1998) (animation), Dragon's Heaven (1988) (animation), Chiara Bautista art (drawings), Hedgehog in the Fog (animation), The Tree and the Cat (animation), The Mystery of the Third Planet (1981) (animation), Bartosz Kruczyński - Baltic Beat (2016) (ambient music), Andy Stott - Faith In Strangers (music video on KZbin).
@plasticspoonmusic
@plasticspoonmusic 2 ай бұрын
this was a very fun and motivating video. there is a ton of art you've mentioned that i will definitely check out. as someone who loves/makes outsider style music, i appreciate the inspiration to keep expressing art the way i want to. hope many others follow suit.
@cyanidecypher
@cyanidecypher 3 ай бұрын
what a refreshing video. can't believe I forgot why I love art so much (this is why)
@Vizible21
@Vizible21 3 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but hot take: the more you make yourself commercialized and the more you fall into capitalism the less you become authentic.
@aegistattoo
@aegistattoo 3 ай бұрын
it's so nice to see all of my confused thoughts about this organized and explained here, thanks! Non-artists love to say "that's dumb, I could have done this" yeah but you didn't do it, so allow yourself to enjoy it for once.
@carlospinheirotorres9499
@carlospinheirotorres9499 3 ай бұрын
thank-you, this is definitely a great proxy for validation - and to a completely isolated guy, god-sent
@beauh755
@beauh755 Ай бұрын
I just started exploring creativity, fashion, music, arts like photography and overall design of anything. I've finally started to push myself to just start creating despite the fact I have zero background skills and it's currently bad art. This video feels like a perfectly timed appearance. Thanks for the confidence boost and encouragement :) Definitely subbing too.
@JustinThorntonArt
@JustinThorntonArt 3 ай бұрын
Another reason to make bad art is you get the ideas for the good and break through art while making the bad art.
@Lemonelemonier
@Lemonelemonier Ай бұрын
This video helped me realise that maybe everything will be okay. I’ve been putting so much pressure on myself to make amazing art so that people will take me seriously but in doing that, I’m loosing the purpose of the art. I need to use it to satisfy myself first. Art has been hit by capitalism and most people feel that art serves no purpose unless to profit off of. This video is a great reminder that that doesn’t have to be the case :)
@___nttien
@___nttien 3 ай бұрын
this made a deep impact on me, thanks
@thesilly5712
@thesilly5712 3 ай бұрын
This video could not have hit me at a better time. I’m a game dev student, and I kinda decided it on a whim. My favorite video games are so bugged and “bad”, but have sequels that far surpass them. Figuring out how a great project (like music, art, etc) starts is really the key, and everything seems more achievable once you look at the roots of something. I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations for how to find obscure video games? Steam is kinda hard to navigate for this sorta thing, so I’m just wondering if anyone has any alternatives. Love the video, keep up the good work!
@kjenslevar
@kjenslevar 27 күн бұрын
This is something unrelated to the topic, but I really appreciate that you took the time to add your own subtitles!
@Lakeside80
@Lakeside80 2 ай бұрын
I would like if people put their process/thoughts on all the things they make. I'll see a cool art piece or read a story and all underneath is one short sentence. I want to know how they got there, how they were feeling, I think more artist should talk about their art. I think it gives something personal, and you feel more fulfilled by it. It also makes them less of a "product" as the algorithm wants you to be. I like the personal touch, and it makes me want to watch for more the creator does.
@drella1775
@drella1775 27 күн бұрын
i love bad art. i love bad music. i love how good something can be no matter how ‘bad’ it is.
@GuyunZhongli-ow4ti
@GuyunZhongli-ow4ti 3 ай бұрын
i hate to admit but i have a hard time overcoming the fear of critical reception, posting art online shouldn't be that hard when u know u enjoyed making it, just the advent of ai is making art feel so horrible I really love this video, idk how you put ur thoughts together in the most cohesive manner because I cant even if I journal its all jumbled mess.
@esotericspook7702
@esotericspook7702 4 ай бұрын
thank you for this. art is the most important expression of human experience, yet over the years financed, mainstream art has felt more and more soulless. art is meant to be a window to the self, allowing others to see through it to another’s perspective, not an attempt to garner popularity or make as much cash as possible. art that is truly timeless oozes passion, and can be made by anyone. your art can touch lives if you can capture and set it free
@sanephele
@sanephele 4 ай бұрын
surfing spotify is like thinking before bed - you always start somewhere blink and you're completely somewheere else, love it!
@Ren-Rhythm
@Ren-Rhythm 3 ай бұрын
One example I see of "bad" art is the last 2 episodes of the anime, Neon genesis evangelion. Despite it's animation being low quality and mostly animated on paper, it portrays shinji ikari's feeling of loneliness and a feeling of not knowing who or what he is through surreal visuals. It dove into the minds of the main cast. it connected the hearts of the pilots together. It spoke to me and others in a way so deeply that it still sticks with me, and i only find myself appreciating it more every time i rewatch it. Although it is disregarded as low quality, I believe it is essential to the show, showing the ending of the show through the mind of shinji ikari and his friends.
@lonelysorrowknight
@lonelysorrowknight 3 ай бұрын
Beyond the infinite 2 minutes is amazing! Unfortunately, not actually taken in one take tho 😅.
@Psysium
@Psysium 3 ай бұрын
This video felt like a hug to my heart. Seeing really, really good art does discourage me for exactly the reasons you mentioned. Reading fanfics and webcomics and manga created by no-names, riddled with grammatical errors and wonky anatomy is actually the stuff that makes me go yeah, I think I could do that. People are still loving them regardless of popularity or skill. Also, Mary Oliver is lovely.
@nathansnook
@nathansnook 4 ай бұрын
Ahhh this was so special Pato. Love the way you were able to find so much peace through your own art making through Moriyama and horror manga. And Skinamarink still haunts me! Something about its core and how it transplants you into childhood fear I think also has to do with how inventive it feels, existing in the childhood unknown.
@naruomi9477
@naruomi9477 3 ай бұрын
3:26 that is Nagoyas science museum I’ve been there many times in my life
@alsopato
@alsopato 3 ай бұрын
yep! they played an aphex twin song in the planetarium haha
@naruomi9477
@naruomi9477 3 ай бұрын
@@alsopato very nice I hope you enjoyed
@DEERCRACKERLOVER
@DEERCRACKERLOVER 3 ай бұрын
My style has been the same over the years and remained stagnated but I'm not disappointed
@SAbalayan
@SAbalayan 3 ай бұрын
This video reminds me of "Goin In" by 2Mello. I've been following him for forever cuz he's an artist I "see myself in" and he talks about a similar thing where you "seek your sound" in the art that makes you want to make even more art. "What does it mean to seek sound Like what does it mean to me It means constantly opening yourself up to new things Like listening to as much music as you can Until you find that song And you'll know when you found THAT one And you think, oh my god, if I can't make something that makes people feel like that In the time I have here I'll be absolutely livid, how can I live with myself And you hold onto that feeling, and you don't let it go And you put some music in your hands, and just keep working till it's done And then find the next one baby"
@Luis-fl3kz
@Luis-fl3kz 3 ай бұрын
HUGE FUCKING ESSAY INCOMING!! I feel like we all got so used to spoon-fed easy-to-digest "content", that we've become simply too unequipped to read any deeper into any work that's even slightly more complex than a 10 minute youtube video. Even worse if the said work is a non conventional, bad or ugly piece of art. For example, this reminds me a lot of the manga "Welcome Back Alice". At the end of the last volume, there's an afterword section, in which the author explains that that work was an attempt to express and dive into his frustration and disgust towards his own gender, sexuality and misogyny as well as his upbringing in modern day Japan surrounded by this constant objectification and sexualization of women and young girls and how he came to view all women as objects of his sexual desire and nothing more, like that was their role on this earth. His writing of gender identity is far, faaar from perfect. There were many moments in the series that left me with a bad taste in my mouth, but they were so honest, so intimate and also so off-putting. But you could tell the author was himself not sure about how to say what he wanted to say or even what to say at all. In the end, that led to a very paradoxical set of comments by the readers which stretched all the way from "this author clearly wants to transition, he should just get done with it and move on already" to "this author is clearly just a blatant transphobe" and "why does this even exist?" The vibe I got from all of those is that they honestly believed the work is just that shallow,, that they easily understood 100% of it, which led to many ironically, might I say, shallow (mis-)interpretations of his work. I'm not saying they're dump for not "getting" the work, but that made me so frustrated. I never thought I could relate so much to anyone on such a specific topic in such a specific way, like saying "holy shit I know exactly what you mean" out loud while reading his inserts. That manga kept lingering on my mind for weeks after I finished that last chapter. It was like it brutally forced me to acknowledge all these ugly feelings I kept sweeping under the rug for the longest time. But alas, for what it seemed like a majority of readers, that work wasn't even worth the pen and paper it was drawn on. My point being, yeah art inspires you, but not only to make more art, to continue the cicle, but most importantly it inspires you to see your world differently than how you used to before you came in contact with it. Anyway, thanks for coming to my tedtalk yall, and thanks for the incredible video, Pato. Looks like I found a really cool gem of a channel.
@ugnenapryte5620
@ugnenapryte5620 3 ай бұрын
8:20 could've shared the title of that short story collection :/
@waerydrm
@waerydrm 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely *love* this video. I’ve been diving into weird, obscure corners of my favorite mediums for quite some time now (I was kinda shocked to find I knew a good chunk of the music artists/films you recommended - all fantastic stuff) and just love how human and spontaneous and passion driven it all is, like what you were saying. People are genuinely amazing, and so is the chance for each and every person to express what they’d like, for whatever reason, without concern for success. It always astounds me that in the modern world, you have to make money off of it, when in these worlds of the lesser known, they’re making very little, yet the payoff is priceless.
@nolanwinterburn194
@nolanwinterburn194 2 ай бұрын
what is the obscure horror manga you talked about
@diondredunigan5282
@diondredunigan5282 3 ай бұрын
"the cycle of art is already complete"... holy fucking shit
@spunishbread
@spunishbread 2 ай бұрын
I haven't been making a lot of fan edits lately because my edits haven't been getting traction but because of this I might start making edits again even if it's hard for me to start because I been working and I have been finding work at the same time which has been kind of killing my inspiration to create art and create edits and i realize i could make time to do what i love at the same time as trying to find something where i can earn, my edits have inspired some people to create, and I think and feel that's enough for me recently to create, rather than to reach a bit audience
@yosoki7468
@yosoki7468 4 ай бұрын
thank you for making this video, you inspired me to pick up my notebook and actually write this idea i had in my head for a while
@coolguyshockettes
@coolguyshockettes 4 ай бұрын
i like this video and i like my own art more now thank you
@SerendipityWyrd
@SerendipityWyrd 3 ай бұрын
Yessss! I do deep dives into different mixed media art technique / process videos here on KZbin as a way to find inspiration and more importantly encouragement to make my own art. See people just creating things - sometimes in genres I doubt I'll ever touch - REALLY takes away that fear of failure and just general apprehension about the process. There is real value in creating just to create.
@dogbeatcat
@dogbeatcat 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for validating what I can’t stop myself from doing
@noteven5ft2
@noteven5ft2 Ай бұрын
omg I AM OBSESSED witjh No Longer Human too! the original novel and the Junji Ito's manga. I haven't read Usamaru's manga yet because the Junji's already took over my life and it was wayy too heavy for me. affected my life deeply tbh but Im really inspired to pick up usamaru's now
@normapadro420
@normapadro420 4 ай бұрын
I like your video. This is the reason I got into visual arts. I'm a photographer, artist, writer, author, music producer. I create different things. I never wanted to be like everybody else.
@sydney2802
@sydney2802 Ай бұрын
This was really inspiring, thank you. All of the examples were so helpful but the most helpful thing was you saying ‘it’s going t9 be bad, and that’s ok. Make it anyway.’ Thanks for the video!
@_.Max.i.mus._
@_.Max.i.mus._ 4 ай бұрын
this was beautiful. and I never finish videos like this either. I really needed this specific one. keep doing what you do dude!
@noteven5ft2
@noteven5ft2 Ай бұрын
idk who you are i got this in my recommendations out of nowhere. I'm a very small artist myself and EVERYTHING you said in this video is exactly my feelings and thoughts about art, what inspires me and who I make art for. EVERY thing was so on point and relatable to the core. Thanks man its amazing how you put my thoughts and feelings into words so nicely
@noteven5ft2
@noteven5ft2 Ай бұрын
you know for some time I have been wanting to record little videos of me, vlog style, talking about my ideas, books, things i like etc . been sitting with this wish for so so long but too intimidated to actually take action. I'm not really a camera person and I struggle with confidence often times. THIS VIDEO is that inspiration for me you just talked about. The way you spoke so fluently and everything resonated with me so well, it really made me feel like "hey, this is something i may be able to do too!" I'm at work right now but when i get home im picking up the camera and recording my first video. Thank you.
@PsychoticAnarchist69
@PsychoticAnarchist69 2 ай бұрын
This is what futurecanoe does for me. Super “bad” but still amazing food that i think “hey man, maybe I can cook that recipe too” even if it doesn’t look pretty. Not super on topic, but seeing kenji made me think of him, and I’ve had too much whiskey.
@mattcannon5779
@mattcannon5779 3 ай бұрын
Really beautiful video. I need this, for sure. At the moment, I am making a short documentary about an eye doctor with a wild obsession for horder collecting ultra and slighly odd positive objects to blanket his office to induce a feeling into his patients and for himself. I mostly have me and him around the office seeing the decorated labyrinth office. The conversations get deep though, into life, family, art and Happiness, but nothing much else happens. I have some decent b-roll and tried to make it purposeful but I have a strong feeling it might be boring and the subject does not want me to film paitents, which is fine. I'd rather him feel comfortable than me to overstay my welcome. So I'm dealt with limitations. It might be a very TALKATIVE doc, but maybe there is still something in that. Not quite sure. I'd love your opinion on this take. I think I should just take what I got and make it work for me. I'm filled with doubts but I think I just need to do it. Thanks again for this video.
@Skip-Towne
@Skip-Towne 2 ай бұрын
What a coincidence, had a moment of "that's so cool...and maybe I can do that too" just yesterday. Actually have been ruminating on a few of the thoughts expressed in this video very recently! I'm going to take that as a sign that I just need to create and stop worrying so much about my skill level.
@zaquepifer2376
@zaquepifer2376 3 ай бұрын
How good does a clown painting have to be before it is no longer obscure? Does a reference image remove some obscurity? When painting I feel simultaneously proud and self conscious with acrylics. Does a larger context make something less obscure? Animal Crossing in context is a whole dynamic, a single villager is a little obscure (but not super).
@ed.m04
@ed.m04 Ай бұрын
One of my first real motivators when I started becoming interested in horror comics was the first issue of Junji Ito's Tomie. The characters were drawn a little inconsistently and a lot of the hands were just spikey rectangles, but that made me realize that the only thing that truly matters in making something great is the passion you put into it.
@famicomdisksystem
@famicomdisksystem 2 ай бұрын
This is specifically what I needed to get back to working on my passion project. Thank you for making this video.
@logicloops1957
@logicloops1957 3 ай бұрын
This was an awesome vid! Feeling really inspired now. How do you find short films? Just KZbin search and then let algorithm do its thing?
@McLeanDrawingBFA
@McLeanDrawingBFA 2 ай бұрын
I'm no good and you can too
@McLeanDrawingBFA
@McLeanDrawingBFA 2 ай бұрын
Also, I'm a hidden gem.
@mariekaomar
@mariekaomar 2 ай бұрын
​@@McLeanDrawingBFA thank you for commenting actually, I love your pieces, they're very charming. I'm gonna check more of your content once I finish the video!
@luiskoga-sd6zk
@luiskoga-sd6zk 3 ай бұрын
I got to watch this videos in hopes to get more inspiration for my street photography, funny enough you mentioned photographing Japan and the first photo that comes by is from Nagoya, the place that I’m living right now and photographing most of the time, such funny coincidence
@barbararezei7065
@barbararezei7065 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, I'm in a weird moment with my art and creativity, and this helped
@nicomints
@nicomints Ай бұрын
Lovely video, everthing was clear and very well said … i loved it. Also. You have great music taste omg
@HaruClarus
@HaruClarus 3 ай бұрын
i usually do really unrealistic drawings yk and reading vagabond was so motivating, i started copying the style with hatching and everything and just doing it and merging it with my stuff made me feel so refreshed abt art, like i wanted to do more, more and more and just keep going
@fortagon
@fortagon 3 ай бұрын
Just watched beyond the infinite two minutes and I'm so glad I did... What a film, I need to learn about how they filmed it. I can already see how it'll inspire my current feature script but a funny thought that came to me toward the end is about this criticism I received in the past about writing characters that discuss a niche topic and how it'll alienate the audience, nah... I loved that ending. Thank you for sharing.
@TheStickyB10
@TheStickyB10 4 ай бұрын
Usamaru is one of my favorite mangaka and I take art inspo from his works. His stories are so dark and weird. I was surprised to see him mentioned.
@lolaslightrays
@lolaslightrays 2 ай бұрын
i'm in a place where creatively, i struggle so much. i can't seem to intrinsically find the energy to create and so everything i do create is very by the books and very safe-played. i haven't been in a creative zone in months and i feel like i don't know how to get there anymore. i think i'll force myself to get more out there, film more with a camcorder instead of expecting myself to catch a lot with my big camera, and just capture more again
@jacquelynfay9430
@jacquelynfay9430 2 ай бұрын
man no way I stumble upon this "Painter from new york" is one of my fav obscure works
@ブリオッシュ-p7f
@ブリオッシュ-p7f 2 ай бұрын
duck
@jjonze
@jjonze Ай бұрын
thank you for this video, i need more friends who think this way
@bushraj03
@bushraj03 26 күн бұрын
Thank you for this beautiful video :3
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