Finish Machining the Beauty Rings- 3D Surfacing

The final machining g ops for the aluminum beauty rings! Here we'll utilize our second fixture to hold the rings in the center so that we can rough and finish machine the angular surface. I will be using a spiral pattern for both the rough and finishing passes. In the end, I feel these parts turned out great and the customers were happy with our results! This is my largest cnc machining job to date! 😀
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[@boothbytcd6011]

The nice thing about having it all done in CNC is that if the customer likes them and says "hey, run us up another 10", all Adam has to do is get the raw material and run the programs he already has.

[@utidjian]

Only downside to that is someone has to store some somewhat unwieldy fixtures. How long would one keep them? If the customer doesn't want any 2-3-5 years down the line but one day decides they want some new ones on would have to charge them for the the time and materials to recreate the fixturing. I ask this becaise I know it can add up over the years. But yeah... at least the CNC programs and CAD drawings etc... are easy to store.

[@jordanfuerst2352]

He could just take a sheet of aluminum and change the order of his programs with cutting them out last and not have any fixtures. They were all flame cut from a sheet to begin with. Might have to clamp down that last operation where it cuts it out.

[@NahNoThankYou]

I love watching you learn and hearing you think out loud. You rock brother ❤

[@mxcollin95]

Dang Adam…I haven’t seen your channel in quite awhile and it’s amazing to check back in and see how far you’ve come in the machining world! I think your pops and gramps would be really impressed! 👍 God bless

[@comictrio]

If the customer is happy and you are too, this is a win for both of you. Nice job.

[@philhunt9297]

No CNC / metal fabrication or video specialist - just your Average Joe throwing some ideas out there. To stop the plates sticking together [suction via fluid] add groves in the mounting plates for drainage To stop coolant splashing camera - pipe in additional air line above camera lens to 'spray' air downwards thereby deflecting coolant spray away from lens ^only trying to help^

[@waynespyker5731]

Add jack screw hole(s) to the clamp ring?

[@heardashot]

I'm old school and have an incredible instinct with old school manual machining all day everyday for a considerable length of time. This has been so helpful with this CNC world i'm about to embark on. Kind of like starting all over again with the learning. Thank you so much Adam for this very valuable learning content. It's hugely significant for those about to make that jump. Ireland sends many blessings!!

[@RambozoClown]

You might want to try a bullnose cutter instead of a ballnose for shallow angle 3D work. It's easier to keep the SFM up so you can run a faster feedrate. A ballnose cuts so close to the center that the actual SFM is pretty low. It doesn't work for all 3D contours, but for something like this where you can use it, you will save a lot of time and the finish is the same or better.

[@tates11]

The Helix 84848 or 48721 have 1/4" corner rads and could be run from solid. I'm surprised they did not recommend them. Or used to finish at around 450"/min with a 0.025" stepover finishing the taper in 20 minutes.

[@dangerdave616]

You made use of one of the main benefits of CNC machines. Fire and forget. Even if the cycle time seem long, set them running and do something else, doubling your productivity.

[@warnmar10]

Perhaps a dedicated air hose to direct a small stream of air across the camera lens to clear coolant? Or a solenoid valve to blow it off with the push of a button .

[@jacevedo497]

They make circular air blades that fit around different size camera lens packages to keep moisture off the lens. I’ve used them with some locline on a mag base. Works great. The air blade is directed from the front of the lens outward.

[@Mr.NiceGuy80]

They also make a round window that spins with air power and keeps all the coolant and debris slung off it.

[@RobertGracie]

Great to see you got these rings finished off, I am gonna enjoy watching this, keep them coming Adam!

[@FrenziedFruitcake]

Its been great to see this job come to fruition. One tip for optimizing 3d surface toolpaths, set your feed per tooth equal to the stepover. You will be surprised how fast you can feed and get a nice finish.

[@jackjohnson6074]

​@marley589 YEAH THIS GUY HAS NO IDEA WHO HE'S TALKING ABOUT

[@wprobe]

Would be nice to see a photo of them installed down th road

[@markpursell2917]

I was hoping for that at the end of the video.

[@CrimFerret]

Most people would see these and figure they'd be done in a lathe being that they are round. The mill did a great job and as you said, saved you time in the long run.

[@garybrenner6236]

Saved time ? Two hours apiece for the final finish!

[@kensherwin4544]

@@garybrenner6236 But HE only spent 10 minutes changing parts and tapping the go button again. It saved his expensive time, not the machine's cheap time.

[@tates11]

@@garybrenner6236 20 mins using the ideal feedrate.

[@marley589]

@@garybrenner6236 running the finish tool at the correct feed would make 6 in 2 hours.

[@garybrenner6236]

@@kensherwin4544 That's fine in his shop because there is probably no other work going on that CNC, but not so great for a real "working" shop with jobs lined up. It's just a decorative finish, put it on a lathe, angle the compound and make the finish pass, then clean it up with some emery and Scotchbrite! You would have half of them done in two hours! "Expensive time", if he was worried about that he would not be throwing the aluminum chips in the scrap!

[@kd5ahl]

I would never have imagined that the finish was that good. Well done

[@trezsr]

Wow nice job. This makes me appreciate what goes into making a billet automobile wheel.

[@michaelwebber4033]

Super happy you used the CNC machine to do all of it. They look amazing and honestly you probably saved some time not having to go to the lathe to do the finishing cuts. You had no set up time, you didn’t have to rig anything. This was awesome

[@aarongrabowski3775]

He deff saved time not having to get setup in the lathe. I agree that they came out amazing.

[@jackjohnson6074]

AINT NO WAY. LATHE WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERABLE FASTER. AND USED LESS ELECTRICITY. LOTS OF WASTES WITH THIS METHOD.

[@garybrenner6236]

@@jackjohnson6074 Amen!

[@vintagespeed]

beautiful job Abom! it's great to see your development in CNC work, been following since motion cylinder turning. 👍

[@tates11]

It would be interesting to know why Helix Tools recommended those two tools. They can supply 1" & 3/4" diameter Aluminum endmills with over 1" flute length in either a rippa flute or standard flute. Each with a 0.250" corner radius, the same radius as the ball nose used. Either of these flute styles could have been used to finish the taper in one pass, with the added bonus of not having almost zero cutting speed at the finishing part of the radius that occurs with the ball end mill. Insert tools using XDCW inserts can be obtained with a 5mm corner radius if preferred. These can also be used to finish in one pass.

[@rftghost]

Coming from the 3D printing world, a 2-3 hour job sound like a quick job... Nice parts!

[@minigpracing3068]

BTW, you should be pleased, they look great. If the customer doesn't like the finish, spin it in the lathe and hit it with a scotch bright in a rotary tool. Just buff it down a bit.

[@michaeldurling793]

Adam, glad to see you were able to complete this project the way you had envisioned it and here's a shout out to Kevin for his part in helping you progress in your CNC journey.

[@ronjlwhite8058]

NICE!!!

[@kenshoemaker]

As a suggestion, consider mounting a small air hose pointed at the camera lens to blow the coolant off the camera. Yes, there will be air noise, but you could experiment with extremely low air pressures to reduce the air noise.

[@woodpecker8546]

Great Job! Thank you for sharing this project and experience😍👍

[@desolatemetro]

Great job man! I think the project came out great. Congrats on stepping up the complexity of what you're doing with CNC.

[@danmenes3143]

I bet you could have used a much faster feed. Because the angle of attack to the surface is so shallow, you are only using a tiny bit of the ball, that is very close to the spindle axis. You will have been getting a huge amount of axial chip thinning, much like a high-feed end mill. You would have wanted to run some small test pieces at the same angle as the disk. I think you would be surprised how fast you could go.

[@tates11]

6.25x faster feed seems to be the ideal feedrate for the best finish avoiding chip thinning and zero surface speed. Tools with a 1/4" corner radius are readily available and would also help with zero SFM.

[@macsmachine]

Great project. Hope this isn’t a repeat comment but just wanted to say, if this becomes a repeat job, you can mount a motorized rotary table to a sine plate and machine the taper with a regular end mill in no time.

[@SerenityMae11]

Good job learning some new processes on the CNC Adam. You're getting there😉

[@edstuff1198]

Very nice job and you gained more information about CNC mill work. I imagine in a year or two you will be quite proficient on the Flex CNC mill and makin' some money with it. Leaving the machine running on it's own is a big advantage of CNC machining because you can do other jobs so there is really no time wasted. Thanks for showing us the process and I can see you were very happy with the finished product, as well you should be.

[@joeopel4196]

Love the way you are growing with the Flex!!!!!!!!!! One thing 🤔 I think if your customer does not have a problem,, a pic or two of the beauty ring mounted to the lamp. Seeing the end product is always Kool!!!!!! Not only this project but,future ones as well!!!!!!! Now you need a child to make it a forth gen family business!!!!!!!!!!!

[@joewhitney4097]

They turned out great Adam. You did a great job with your jigs and can make these again as needed. Well done. Thanks for sharing.

[@petenikolic5244]

Very Very very easy on to fix the coolant thing as i have said plexiglass screen infornt of the camera air curtain blo9wing over the work side will keep the screen clear

[@NotJRB]

I had the same sort of suggestion a few videos ago. I guess there's something that prevents that.

[@frankhott5568]

First rate series. Thanks for taking us along for the ride! Best wishes to you and yours!

[@joselrodriguez5999]

Great project and beautiful finish!

[@kevindurden9840]

Ok, they go on the ground! I was having a hard time figuring out why so much trouble for a trim ring on the ceiling. Keep up the great content. Thanks!

[@betlw]

Awesome to see the progression of this project and your humbleness of taking us along on your journey. Most impressive in all respects. Just a note regarding the LED lighting, it is actually better to leave them on (at least during the day). It is the cycling between hot and cold that will wear the emitter diodes out.

[@bitounas]

Adam at his best!!! I can feel your pride in your work man!!! Great stuff!!!

[@DennyReichard]

If you had a cutter ground to the angle of the bevel you could scream through those plates.

[@Brian55126]

I tried that once with 45 degree insert cutter on a like 2 inch deep chamfer . It worked great. But I didn't tell the boss cause I new he wouldn't be happy I reduced one set up and his fixture would be of no use.

[@DennyReichard]

All about billable hours and materials used.

[@czs1mc]

It would be fun to see the cleanup of the shop after such a job. Well done Adam.

[@benlancaster7733]

Excellent project Adam! Great to see you gradually getting to grips with the CNC stuff! 👍

[@louiefourie267]

WOW!! What a learning curve for me as a spectator as well! Tnx Adam.

[@z31drifterlf]

I love how the tool path causes a diffraction interference under your LED's

[@jackjohnson6074]

OK BIG GUY WE GET IT YOUR THE SMARTEST GUY IN ROOM WITH BIG WORDS. COOL STORY BROTHER. TELL IT AGAIN.

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Thanks for sharing Adam

[@Vampier]

very nice looking end product, it cool to see a completed project with many of the same parts.

[@carlwhite8225]

Adam, this was a really cool project, thanks for sharing your learning experience.

[@leeklemetti1887]

I watched the cutting action closely. The part does not spin. The X-axis just goes left and right repeatedly. The Y-axis also goes away and back towards Adam. Those motions, synchronized by the milling machine created the circular final finish. The Flex CNC is amazing! To get the finish that Adam got and really wanted was that this mill has ABSOLUTELY NO BACKLASH! Great job, Adam. You showed us what can be done with a MillTronicx Flex CNC.

[@martinconnelly1473]

This is what school math should be using to show the real world application of numbers. A sinusoidal motion on the X axis and the same on the Y axis but 90° out of phase gives a circular path to the tool. It is similar to those shapes that you used to see in old movies where an oscilloscope was showing distorted circles moving around, but with a solid purpose. Give pupils something other than just books, pen and paper to look at. Not everyone is academic, some of us like hands on.

[@johncunnington3914]

I love seeing success on something new.

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Sweet, the bed of the flex is long enough for two or more spindles running at the same time. Thanks for sharing.

[@unclematt7223]

Very nice job. You are doing a great job with the flexibility of the new shop and growing. Keep up the good work

[@rogerbird6151]

Adam, congratulations! Fan-bloody-tastic. Well done!

[@williamcook8463]

I know its not always possible but, it would be nice to see the parts you're making in their final installation and working.

[@Brian-L]

Pretty schmick Adam! I’d be a happy customer receiving those gorgeous parts from your shop.

[@Landrew0]

As a purely decorative piece, I think the stepped finish actually looks better, particularly if done with a ball mill.

[@ThisMFINGuy]

Ur gonna need a shop dawg soon ! I’ll fly dn n sweep for a week lol😮

[@noelc279]

Well done. Love how you’ve made learning your CNC machining also profitable. I felt sure you’d do the final on a lathe, but the ball mill sure left a beautiful finish for the beauty rings.

[@martinconnelly1473]

In theory the ball mill is leaving a faceted finish, just very small facets. In my opinion that can be a very attractive finish because of the way the light is reflected off the surface and how it changes as you move.

[@calibhoffman4705]

If you have the time or spindle speed match your chip per tooth to your step over insanely nice finish I run a ramped surface at 150ipm at 10000rpm with a similar ball endmill. Adam the machinists has a video explaining why.

[@CameraDrie-ys4ng]

Hi Adam, ever considered using a auto rotating welding chuck? Mount the fixture to it and secure the chuck in the correct angle to the flex rails. This could/should make it a lot easier and faster to finish it.

[@Camaross376]

Most people talk about getting supercars or crazy houses. If I win the lottery I’m buying tools from companies that support these KZbinrs.

[@xx_death_xx-de9eq]

My favorite abom project so far. Keep it up.

[@larry3064]

It would be cool to see them after installation. Very nice work. Thanks for sharing.

[@garychaiken808]

Great job. Thank you 😊

[@DS-ip4ns]

I’m not reading all the comments to see if it’s been mentioned, but where I work, we have cameras all over the mill and the one area has air lines constantly blinking air on the lense to keep them clean. You could easily rig up a flexible air line that blows air on the lens to blow off the coolant.

[@pflqr]

Love it! CNC is the way. More jobs and less time.

[@hanscarlson2199]

Great project, fantastic outcome! Thanks for the entertainment. 🤩

[@AmiPurple]

Thank you, enjoyed it lots. Great to see you getting it done!

[@1961chas]

Adam, I think the stair step looks great, to bad your customer wanted a smooth finish.

[@hankus253]

Adam, how about a stream of air to blow the water and chips off the lens? Sort of like using an air stream to keep the smoke away from blocking the laser beam on a CNC laser cutter.

[@videodistro]

I had just mentioned this, too. But I wondered if there was a provision for air cooling or such.

[@CaptainHook-j7u]

I was thinking a NOGA coolant mister without any coolant. Magnetic base and flexible hose so it could be relocated to any position. They have an adjustable nozzle to control air flow.

[@jackjohnson6074]

HOW ABOUT YOU RUN YOUR CMC MILL THE WAY YOU LIKE. AN ATOM CAN RUN HIS HOW HE LIKES. TOO MANY NOSY BUSYBODIES IN HERE.

[@BOBPortlandOr]

I see nothing wrong . The finish is in the eye of the beholder. If I was the owner I'd consider the step version as the finish. Maybe even incorporating the ball in the step.

[@LiquidMetalLab]

Loving the CNC content!

[@ronnydowdy7432]

I think you have been doing a great job learning what you need to, to make beautiful parts and with precision. You're skills are going to get better and better as you go. I think if you would have used the lathe you would have had problems with the harmonics and the finish but I have been wrong before. Great job Adam

[@lucas_alexandreBR]

Nice! Good opportunity for learning more without scrapping parts😂, so success! awesome job, Adam!

[@tonyn3123]

It probably doesn't need to be said, but now that you know the finish pass works, it should reduce the total time to about 2-1/2 hours each when all the tool paths are combined plus prepping the other side for finishing. Eight parts is a little over 2 eight-hour days plus part change time. That's just how my mind works. Thanks. (It would still be nice to have an air curtain in front of the camera)

[@spikeypineapple552]

Plus 2 fixture plates, plus stock prep takes this to 4 days. 150$ an hour makes these 1000$ each in labour, which is crazy when they're 20 minutes a side on a proper slant turn lathe. Someone out there must really love Adam, because I'd charge 150 a piece in labour and they'd have a better finish.

[@SjackievanVeen]

An artist in metalwork

[@marlobreding7402]

DRY LENS SOLUTION!!! You might be able to combine both a leaf blower and GoPro camera to eliminate any coolant from ever touching the lens. A GoPro can easily fit inside the tube just behind a tapered cone. Fabricate mounting gimbals a flex hose. I'm thinking 1 leaf blower would keep 2, maybe more cameras dry.

[@RicksterX-92fs]

What a time saver, eh?

[@MechanicalAdvantage]

Yes, but not in the way you might think. He was able to do other work while program was finishing the part.

[@M5888-z3w]

I think you did a excellent job with your fixturing for the mill and I think that the parts a good for what the wanted

[@josaonline09]

Love the finished product

[@raymanzi1829]

Trusting a CNC.......Walking away is the hardest part for me....Too many 'What If's". Like if the power goes out and comes back on......This was a good confidence building exercise. They look awesome Adam

[@jackjohnson6074]

CAN'T LIVE YOUR LIFE SCARED OF EVERYTHING. GET RIGHT WITH JESUS AND ALL WILL BE WELL.

[@jaybailey3518]

Now if one could anodize them to protect the finish, they'd be even better !

[@meteorplum]

Adam, my idea for keeping the lens clear of coolant is to pipe in a flex hose and shoot compressed air at the lens from the side, probably with a pressure reduction fitting. Hope you get a chance to try it out.

[@bertppichon2684]

I saw this same base on light poles in Mountain View Arkansas

[@Crusher9mil]

I think they look damn amazing! Love that satin finish. 👍🏻

[@francisschweitzer8431]

I like them… plus you got an absolutely consistent finish that you would have had trouble reproducing if you did it by hand on the Pacemaker. They look great

[@terrywildman3362]

Now you’re getting the idea how to run a CNC while watching your video. I was running one machine yielding $658 per hour on $25 worth of material and another yielding $125 an hour while setting up a third, and watching your video This is what lights out operation will do for you

[@christopherporter4561]

That is a huge CNC machine. I imagine that you can make some giant parts on that monster... Will those parts get clear anodized so that they do not lose their sheen over time?

[@Cancun771]

Could the sticking issue be resolved by machining some grooves into the fixtures? Maybe next time. That Flex sure is a mighty piece of kit. I had forgotten that these are shrink fit holders and kept wondering where the tempering colors came from.

[@juliantullier5610]

Hi Adam, Great content as always, it's my Sunday morning ritual to watch your machining videos. I just wanted to suggest going over to see Peter from Edge Precision he's a machinist and has a KZbin channel. he did a video about 7 years ago where he machined up a alloy case for a Go Pro and it had an inbuilt Air Curtain to continuously blow the coolant of the lens.

[@rufustoad1]

Nice job brother. I am in the same exact boat and I am getting ready to hire Kevin myself but what a feeling of accomplishment when you have that bulb go off!!

[@patrickmazzone9066]

Excellent job look good keep it up love your channel

[@peterlee8982]

Fantastic work. Well done.

[@paulader9007]

Nice video and a good result. I’m surprised by the length of time it took for each piece. I understand why he chose not to use the lathes which would have been a much more efficient solution. Just seems like a lot of time to machine a soft metal even on the flex.

[@BrummBilt]

Really enjoying watching the progress of this project. Have you considered an air knife on the camera lens?

[@4pawsforge273]

Bravo! Stay chuffed. A "beautiful" job!

[@Gefionius]

Beautiful job, Adam

[@apistosig4173]

awesome outcome

[@rileyjordan9072]

Did enjoy Mr. Adam. You are an inspiration!

[@billspence1799]

For the stop/start ring. Could you have restarted the program from the beginning with an extra couple of thou on Z?

[@kindabluejazz]

I wonder what the electricity cost is for running the Flex for 2 hours continuously. That, plus the wear and tear and tools, just if you were really trying to price this out.

[@afnDavid]

Beauty Ring after some beauty sleep. :-)

[@buckzillakiller]

Nice work Adom, Be safe!

[@williamskirvin2211]

Outstanding job!!