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@boxfoxscoot16143 ай бұрын
looking at the title it reminds me of a dad joke 3 men walk into a bar... the fourth one ducked
@anthonyrivers83953 ай бұрын
I would really love if one of your subscriber-based fans asked to grind your bed for you. Of course he needs all the fancy equipment. ❤ and maybe get a heavily reduced price. Or an awesome sing and dance shout out on a video. ❤ from my mouth to gods ears.😂
@lito111119403 ай бұрын
One word "Turcite"
@ryguy73833 ай бұрын
Coming in hard with the shirt off thirst trap during the ad I see. And damn it if it didn't get me actually watch it instead of skipping past.
@R3dryuu3 ай бұрын
Sounds like an inherited problem for the next owner of that lathe. you will be fine leaving it. it will not be an issue for you moving forward. again you are dealing with tenths in a small area on that late
@Ben-vs6zr3 ай бұрын
As a seasoned KZbin commenter, it seems like the logical thing to do is to get two more identical free lathes, and then lapping the three beds together on a huge custom jig.
@bhoiiii3 ай бұрын
Truer words…
@markclynch3 ай бұрын
this is the way
@RickTashma3 ай бұрын
LOL!
@charlesenfield21923 ай бұрын
Genius.
@luipaardprint3 ай бұрын
As a seasoned KZbin comment reader this is the first one in a long while that actually made me chuckle out loud.
@scottd45633 ай бұрын
The fact your wife cares and actually knows what you're talking about is the win.
@Reman19753 ай бұрын
I've said it before, but if her on camera persona is who she really is off camera, then he's a very lucky guy, and she's a keeper. 😏
@aloeisthestuff96223 ай бұрын
More like Bizarre.
@pvic69593 ай бұрын
@@Reman1975 why do i randomly feel so so lonely
@kirawr80643 ай бұрын
@@pvic6959 it do be like that brother some people go together without even trying and them mfs are lucky as hell
@mantis04273 ай бұрын
Should you send it for remachining: Nope Will you ever regret sending it for remachining: Nope Will you be happy if the Lathe cuts absolutly flawlessly: Absolutly!
@sobertillnoon3 ай бұрын
Will it gnaw on him for the next decade if he doesn't? Yes
@2testtest23 ай бұрын
Sounds like a win-win situation😅
@descmba3 ай бұрын
My opinion... if that half though too big is an issue... then put some emery cloth on that part and be done with it. Besides... who's to say if you send it off that it wont have an issue somewhere else when you get it back? As always, thank you for awesome content!
@kylethatcher58283 ай бұрын
@@sobertillnoonthis is ultimately what has me thinking he should and possibly will do it. He seems the type that will never be happy with good enough knowing that perfection is within reach, even at a high price
@lnbwood3 ай бұрын
You can learn how to deal with the tiny bit of wear in the bed - assuming it will ever be an issue when machining a part. Generations of professional machinists, and hobbyists, built very precise parts on clapped out lathes.
@DavidKutzler3 ай бұрын
23:00 I laughed at the wife's remark here. I'm a hobby machinist. I took a welding class at our local community college. Preparing to cut a piece of plate for my course project, I pulled out a bottle of Dykem and my layout tools to scribe my planned cuts. On seeing this, my welding instructor said, "This is why I don't like working with machinists. In my world, plus-or-minus a quarter inch is considered precision work."
@idkwhattfimdoin3 ай бұрын
xD
@ja-no6fx3 ай бұрын
Welders cant count past 2 so its no wonder they only work to 1/4 inch
@nicholastrawinski3 ай бұрын
@@ja-no6fx when i worked in the weld shop the boss was constantly claiming none of us could count, do math, read a tape measure etc etc, And one day we all punched in a few minutes late and he goes ballistic. Hes standing at the time clock pointing at the time, reading it out digit by digit, and pulling our paper time cards out to do the same, and finally says "you punch in when the clock reads seven zero zero DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS DO YOU UNDERSTAND THOSE NUMBERS? I looked him dead in the eye and said "what are numbers mean? I no can count." Not the maddest ive ever made him, but close to it.
@ja-no6fx3 ай бұрын
@@nicholastrawinski bahahah Only guy dimmer than the welder in a shop is the welding foreman :D
@richardcooke99483 ай бұрын
Same but with drywall.
@Snope1113 ай бұрын
Brandon: Do I look good Wife: You look like you Ouch man
@syedusamamanzoor18383 ай бұрын
Ouch doesn't do it justice. That was emasculating XD
@samsamm14023 ай бұрын
this was fucking brilliant 😂
@aaronbuildsa3 ай бұрын
The love and support only a wife can give 🤣
@xaracen72073 ай бұрын
and the immediate part after "I only go with what looks good" "you look good" _flustered wife noises_
@JoshuaDavidson3 ай бұрын
Brandon's face as it crumples....
@jasonhull57123 ай бұрын
Having a precision lathe in the shop has a price.. having a brutally honest, smart, caring, supportive, beautiful wife in the shop…. Priceless. Another super impressive video on the books. Loved it Sir. 🍻
@DavidGuyton3 ай бұрын
"Why do you have stuff on the shelf where your stuff is?" Hahahahaahaha
@kristjanjonsson77233 ай бұрын
😂
@Frank-Thoresen3 ай бұрын
It's a workshop
@DavidGuyton3 ай бұрын
@@Frank-Thoresen it's also a quote pulled directly from the video.
@Sgt_Kilborn3 ай бұрын
I loved that line lol
@Frank-Thoresen3 ай бұрын
@@DavidGuyton I know. I heard it 😄
@bRad730163 ай бұрын
I just did all this on my recently purchased Chinese lathe that is turning out to be not so clapped out but still screwed up. Here's a couple rabbit holes I went down. I invite you to chase them on your paper weight: Try indicating the top of the tail stock quill and see if it's parallel with the bed in that axis Next, turn a test piece to the exact diameter of the tail stock quill, indicate a zero on the top of that piece and then compare to the quill top to see if the tail stock is even truly the same distance in Z from the bed. While you're at it, do the test to see if your head stock spindle center line is parallel with the bed as well. Machine a 2 inch-ish test bar sticking out about 6" from the chuck, without support from the tail stock, and see if the cut is tapered. Rabbit holes... you gotta love them!!!
@TheModerateNewb3 ай бұрын
I like this comment and it’s definitely content that can fit this channels attitude
@joshfairchild3 ай бұрын
“Can you do the other thing too?” “Uhhh not on camera” 😂😂😂😂
@rdh69323 ай бұрын
I have been a machinist since 1976 and have never had a job with that tight of a tolerance over a continuous length such as that bar. All the jobs I have done, whether they were long or short shafts, the tight tolerances were always confined to short segments of the shaft, so your lathe is probably going to be able to handle any job that comes through the door.
@benjaminshaw803 ай бұрын
Machinist here that has run a HLV-H for many years at work and a 10ee at home. It’s fine, run it. If you need .0000 precision you are going to grind it with the tool post grinder anyway. It has enough stick out to keep the carriage out of that low spot.
@noahstephens76223 ай бұрын
This.
@gilbertmckown61613 ай бұрын
Machinist of 7 years and I agree!
@ThorvPL3 ай бұрын
As a machinist of almost 10 years I agree as well. Here in Poland it would cost way less, maybe $400-500 but I still wouldn't pay to flat so small portion of the bed.
@sbroz14243 ай бұрын
You beat me to it.
@vieubob3 ай бұрын
But... if the carriage is riding on the same bed, even if you keep it out of the bad area, you make an even greater step between bad and good area ? Or you run it a second time the other way around to fix it ?
@jfresca91252 ай бұрын
Hope all is well we havent seen you in a while .. the quality of your content is outstanding and your way of keeping us informed is second to none thank you and god bless
@markusscharting83003 ай бұрын
Toolmaker here - you could disassemble the lathe and do an old-fashioned scraping job of the bed. Will take a while but you could get it super precise that way
@VoidedWarranty3 ай бұрын
and given that it's only out half a thousandths, in my experience, won't even take that long. I bet it's mostly on the dovetail sides, not the top (least bearing area there)
@markusscharting83003 ай бұрын
@@VoidedWarranty Good thinking!
@Dagonius.3 ай бұрын
Totally! And fun too!
@creep70093 ай бұрын
thats the way to go
@andan22933 ай бұрын
That really depends on his ability to scrape well.
@Windprinc33 ай бұрын
You guys have the best banter vibe of anyone on KZbin! Your friendship and respect for each other shines through in every video. Keep up the good work and this healthy content. I hope that there are others in the comments section who are inspired to put out the same quality of content!
@natalieritchie31283 ай бұрын
wife must've been in charge of the project count subtitles, i love it! I giggle every time one comes up
@jorinlutz43633 ай бұрын
She edits the video so probably yes.
@mylesloan3 ай бұрын
As a machinist, I look forward to the day that disassembling the lathe and sending the bed off, makes it on to the side projects tally. That will definitely be an enjoyable project to watch.
@Gastell03 ай бұрын
14:30 - I am very confident that this bushing is preventing total annihilation of that central shaft from forces that this part experiences, pretty sure you just need to thin that busing a little instead
@tommymaddox67853 ай бұрын
Put the bushing back lol it's there for a reason.
@Smona3 ай бұрын
yeah, it's also what kept it centered there
@patrickhector3 ай бұрын
kinda feels like a chesterton's bushing
@marchingknight113 ай бұрын
100% chesterton's bushing lol
@stoyangeorgiev49493 ай бұрын
Just surface grind the thickness.
@BuddyLuvve3 ай бұрын
The more cameos your wife makes, the more I (and i think we all) grow to love her! She's refreshingly understanding about all of the work, time, and money you put into this hobby/profession, and her sense of humor is pretty f'in great too! 🤣😁
@felixpelletier42963 ай бұрын
I love the new intervention-style talking to the camera routine. I feel like I'm a *special* person meeting my first *special* person
@rs.76103 ай бұрын
Oh your special alright Haha
@MrTbagss3 ай бұрын
Meh not so much for me tbh I prefer the voice over more
@ragnut-dono90893 ай бұрын
@@MrTbagsssame but still love the videos
@MrTbagss3 ай бұрын
@@ragnut-dono9089 oh yeah still love watching always look forward to the next video
@PaulDriverPlus3 ай бұрын
This style allows one to become more invested in whatever his name is. (lolz, it's me, since my stroke, proper nouns become elusive from time to time, hysterical when you can't pull your brother's name from the mush between your ears) Brandon? Never mind.
@FaultyMuse3 ай бұрын
22:45 That chuck's pretty big actually. Some might even say it's huge 🥲
@nekomakhea94403 ай бұрын
Half a thou is 12.7 um. That's pretty damn accurate, for the least accurate place on your lathe! And using chuck extensions to work outside the worn part of the ways is a good suggestion. I'm a programmer, not a machinist, but programmers have a saying, "you aren't gonna need it," which means don't add features until they're needed, just ship the damn product as-is. In this context, that means start doing actual projects with the lathe instead of working on the lathe itself. Further work on the lathe is meta-work, work about work, not actual work that produces actual outputs; it's the engineering equivalent of meetings about meetings, which should be minimized to avoid burnout, in favor of the projects you got the lathe for in the first place.
@theKashConnoisseur3 ай бұрын
Better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it. Especially when the process to amend the product is a lot more onerous than opening your favorite IDE. Machining and programming aren't the same thing.
@ChidleyEngineering3 ай бұрын
YAGNI
@haqvor3 ай бұрын
KISS, keep it as simple as possible, but not any simpler.
@mattsadventureswithart57643 ай бұрын
@@theKashConnoisseurThe channel content is about machining, whether the projects made for us to watch are "side projects" or main projects doesn't matter. Many of us viewers find some amusement&satisfaction from the main projects requiring side projects. If a future project requires this lathe to be made more accurate as a side project, I'm sure most of us will be happy watching it at that time.
@DJDiarrhea3 ай бұрын
Standard tolerance for machined parts is 10 um. If you need to machine a fit you'll need even tighter tolerances. Small deviations go a long way in machining
@Braeden1236987453 ай бұрын
Who ever edits these is having WAY too much fun, keep it up.
@SolarMillUSA3 ай бұрын
His wife. She's amazing.
@johnfreiler60173 ай бұрын
As a machinist, I admire the dedication to precision. But as an engineer, I have to say: you know where and exactly how much the problem area is, so no, don't fix it. Your question of "is this really the most accurate machine in the shop?" is a good one. If it is, stop and move on. And really, I suspect that it is, so take a step back and count your wins.
@VoidedWarranty3 ай бұрын
also from a project management standpoint, what's the goal? Have you defined what Done is? If you do that, you know exactly when it's good enough.
@burntalive3 ай бұрын
Non-Machinist, but intrigued. I would like to see the bar test on the other one anyways and if it's still more accurate than the old lathe then only send the bed if he absolutely runs into an issue with that level of precision.
@Frank-Thoresen3 ай бұрын
A half a thousand should be within the tolerance of most precise produced products. The more precise lathe the more money spent that might never return. Spend the money on more precision tools and and high quality lathe cutting bits.
@James-kk3nm3 ай бұрын
i am a machinist mold maker in training and I would definitely scrape the ways. You will learn so much about true flatness its worth it for the knowledge alone
@Guyallknowing3 ай бұрын
i think the real question is whether or not the cost of resurfacing that bed is higher than the revenue you'd make filming the whole thing and showing us. -not a machinist
@bobthecomputerguy3 ай бұрын
That's a real good point. - also not a machinist.
@theKashConnoisseur3 ай бұрын
But you also have to factor in the cost of sending out parts to be machined on more accurate machines if he doesn't hav that accuracy at home, as well. And there's the cost of wasted materials if he accidentally scraps a project because it demanded more precision than his lathe was able to provide.
@DJDiarrhea3 ай бұрын
That's the real question
@inherited-shop3 ай бұрын
@@theKashConnoisseurbut his Box of Shame needs to be fed sometimes too!
@Ivanovitch28853 ай бұрын
@@theKashConnoisseur Considering he's not making parts for a jet engine, I think his scrap ratio is going to be next to zero that can be blamed on the lathe. It's not about accuracy it's about the right accuracy for the job.
@adamtalpash64692 ай бұрын
Dude, you ok? Been a month since we’ve seen you and starting to get worried.
@vaclavbastl500Ай бұрын
He's gone crazy trying to get rid of that half a thou
@RonCovell3 ай бұрын
Brandon, in the world I live in, sub-thousandth increments very seldom make a difference. Congratulations on continually finding new ways to make your video productions enjoyable to watch!
@apersonontheinternet80063 ай бұрын
In my years of machining I only had a handful of times where a few tenths made or broke a part. Once you get down into the tenths you have so many other variables to account for - such as tool deflection, tool wear, part setup, and thermal expansion - and contend with that you're just going to end up sneaking up on the tolerance with a handful of spring passes anyway.
@taporter23 ай бұрын
Man, you're getting so damn good at this. Thank you, this has become my favorite show on any platform. Fellow engineer, big fan.
@MrSauva3 ай бұрын
Please do a competition between the two lathes! It must be an epic battle-there can be only one!
@haydenc27423 ай бұрын
There can be only one...for that particular size job ;)
@cefcephatus3 ай бұрын
Imagine edit those cuts like battle bots.
@LunaticCharade3 ай бұрын
this!
@kizhax3 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see how this...turns out!
@ScruffyTime3 ай бұрын
It's really wonderful seeing your video style evolve, seeing more of your face as you've gained confidence, seeing more of the little errors and flubs here and there, seeing your humour come out more. It's great to see and I'm just happy I've followed you long enough to see that evolution.
@stankornelsen99203 ай бұрын
Is the lathe bed reversible? If so, would it not be advantageous to simply remove it, and re-install it with the current headstock end of the bed swapped to the tailstock end? The odds of you ever needing to machine a part with the tailstock all the way at the end of the lathe are slimmer than the odds of you needing that last bit of precision at the headstock end.
@RichardMerrill3Hawk3 ай бұрын
~20:20 "Does the tail-stock quill being out that far affect the rigidity?" It must be great to have an editor who understands the work you do!
@forrestgordon56073 ай бұрын
Oh my god your banter with your wife brings the biggest grin to my face! Also, she seems pretty knowledgeable and interested in what you're doing, y'all make a good power couple.
@haqvor3 ай бұрын
She sounds like an engineer to me, and I absolutely love the banter!
@NOLAfugee3 ай бұрын
Editing them, she's basically seen all of his videos 20 times, including unused footage.
@TheReaperHunter22 күн бұрын
15:27 that "hmm" was felt to the soul. No matter the profession, we all know what that "hmm" means.
@pulos423 ай бұрын
Editor wife is killing it with the text
@vaultboy22702 ай бұрын
Hope we get an update soon!! Cant wait.
@RH-om1ph3 ай бұрын
Machinist here. I've run a Summit and Leblonde set of lathes for about 3 years now. Honestly, if you could make a collet adapter to push your collet forward out of that low area, I wouldn't send the ways off for remachining. However, if you want a perfect lathe bed that isn't going to bug you on what is supposed to be the most precise of manual lathes, then yes, I would. Though, I will also say....if you have a part that requires +-.0001 or less taper, then you could just use the compound grinder.
@VoidedWarranty3 ай бұрын
bet the collets themselves contribute to a surprising amount of error too!
@ValentinTaranenko19 күн бұрын
Happiest bro I've ever seen. Blessed with a machine shop and good woman. Such a good heartwarming content in this "popularity" madness times. Keep going bro!
@syedusamamanzoor18383 ай бұрын
Question: Can you flip the bed around? Question: Can you surface grind the bed?
@hippotek13 ай бұрын
I second that question. Can you reverse the orientation of the bed, moving the worn out part to the end? Can you cut the bed?
@ambsquared3 ай бұрын
Surface grinding the bed is what he would send it out to have done. I don’t think his surface grinder is big enough to accommodate the lathe bed. One solution may be to find another machinist KZbinr with the proper grinder to take it on as a project.
@GunnerSeries3 ай бұрын
1st question: most likely not as there might be "blind holes" on the bottom to mount the bed to the base. 2nd question: i don't believe that his surface grinder has enough travel length to be able to grind the bed, but his mill might be big enough, but it would not be ideal.
@adamm49423 ай бұрын
Or could you shift the working area if you cant flib the bed
@Deificus3 ай бұрын
@@ambsquared I think this is the winning solution. At that point, it becomes a collaboration (you can't see it, but imagine "collaboration" in rainbow-colored text) for clicks and views. Both collaborators get to share some audience that they weren't already sharing, they get content for another video (or more) each. It's pretty win-win.
@xombieification3 ай бұрын
Your ad reads are amazing. I have never been compelled to skip them on account of how creative and fun they are.
@ThatRobHuman3 ай бұрын
The new format/style is working for you. I like it. Gonna reference a thing that I tell 3d printer people: What's the hobby? Making things that happen to be 3d printed, or the 3d printer itself? - If the hobby is the stuff you make, then don't send it off until it is actually necessary. You're chasing zeroes that you don't need to chase and its getting in the way of making things on that lathe. - if the hobby is the lathe itself: then sure - send it off to get the half thou of wear out of it. I, personally, wouldn't: I don't think you're going to reap that much benefit out get it remachined.
@KnugLidi3 ай бұрын
They are two different hobbies.
@ThatRobHuman3 ай бұрын
@@KnugLidi and?
@donkultgen46433 ай бұрын
I agree with your point. I'll add that his job (not really a hobby anymore) is making videos people want to watch. So the question is do we want to watch machinery rebuilding or producing interesting parts. I think this channel's strength is the interesting parts, designed with pencil and paper. Old school work. Honoring his grandfather. Excellent explanations and comedy. That being said I'll gladly watch both!
@KnugLidi3 ай бұрын
@@ThatRobHuman I have a 3D printer and I use it to produce parts, most of which I have designed. There are other people who love to tinker with their 3D printer and only rarely use them. Each of them is 3D printer based and are two different hobbies. You said that you always tell '3D printer people' What's the hobby? The answer is both of those things are hobbies. On top of that, there are those, like me, that use 3D printers as a tool for my other hobbies. There are those that their hobby is 3D printing things. And there are those that simply like to tune their 3D printers (speed printers, etc.). Some people just use a car for work - they don't see a car as a hobby. Some folks like to race them for fun. Others like to mod the hell out of them for fun. some love to just look cool in them and spend all weekend driving around trying to get noticed.
@ThatRobHuman3 ай бұрын
@@KnugLidi That's my point: they are separate hobbies. So which one is he going for?
@mcoope183 ай бұрын
Best video yet. It's cool seeing your personality. Your videos are some of my favorites on all of youtube!
@mrtoastyman073 ай бұрын
this new format with your wife taking a larger role - 🔥 Then chemistry, jokes, editing and of course the lathe are all on point - keep up the great work! and thank your for taking us on this journey with you! As for the lathe runout - I would be VERY interested in seeing you at least attempt to fix it yourself, or maybe do a collab with another machinist channel who has the appropriate tooling to do the corrections and see if you can do in on their machines or shadow then while they do it - I think it would be a really fun video.
@samuelwiltzius3 күн бұрын
Great video! I have a 1940 Monarch Lathe that I restored and felt inspired to do a test bar after watching this video. It was really fascinating and the old lathe performed really really well. Thanks!
@ken4819593 ай бұрын
Dude, you have a tool post grinder for precision work. I actually had to MAKE a real tool post grinder for our old lathe to precision grind an inner bearing race on a pinion shaft for a Harley Sportster motor. And when I say a real tool post grinder, I don't mean some lash-up using a Dremel tool in a hose clamp to the tool holder. I mean a real, 1/4 HP motorized, double pillow blocked shaft, belt driven tool post grinder, mounted on a piece of 1/2 inch plate on the compound slide, just like a store bought one. And it weighed about 50 pounds, just like the store bought one. And it worked, just like the store bought one. But since I was able to make it out of old stuff we had hanging around, it didn't COST like the store bought one. Just run it.
@toddk.58733 ай бұрын
Is that for the inner pinion race on a 3 piece flywheel?
@billradford21283 ай бұрын
Folk are saying to live with it and saying nice things about you and your wife which is all good, but I also appreciated seeing how to analyse and correct these fundamental accuracy flaws in a lathe! Thanks.
@q370p3 ай бұрын
8:33, I admire the attempt.
@deardenkylewoodruff58263 ай бұрын
I love your channel so much, but this... the pacing, the interaction... this is my favorite episode so far in this whole project
@pauloalvesdesouza79113 ай бұрын
It boils down to basically two things 1- will you be happy with a moderately accurate paperweight? 2- can you live peacefully knowing that imperfection is there? Never mind needing the ½ thousands precision.
@mikes783 ай бұрын
I am not a machinist and i would find it annoying to know it is there. Brandon is the kind of person that would be kept up at night because he knows it is still an issue.
@pauloalvesdesouza79113 ай бұрын
@@mikes78 I agree with your assessment. Therefore it seems a fair bet that we'll see an episode of IM where the moderately accurate paperweight will be made into a top notch lathe.
@apersonontheinternet80063 ай бұрын
@@mikes78 I was a machinist, half of the art of machining is knowing how and when to lie to your machine to get the desired results. 5 tenths is easy to overcome.
@Shukodoshi3 ай бұрын
I love the dynamic between you and your missus, always gives me a chuckle. As for the lathe bed, it'd be a good video to tear it down and show how it gets refinished, either by you or a specialty shop that lets you record.
@Counttec3 ай бұрын
I say, weigh the undertaking of fixing that last miniscule slop in the system. Also, is it worth it to potentially screw up in the process of improving your machine, just to handle the one hypothetical project that you could definitely just outsource to another machinist for a lone, impossibly accurate part? Loving the videos, both old and new, so keep up the great work! Speaking of format, I do like the difference in the style between full voice-over and speaking directly to the camera to distinguish between shop projects and project projects.
@Eidi9203 ай бұрын
Another great video. Love the banter between you and your wife. She really adds so much in editing.
@trazwaggon3 ай бұрын
I see a few people saying the new style of editing/shooting is "bad" and i have to disagree completely. Your wife is a great addition to the flow of the video and a very useful narrative exploit to explain some of the technical stuff and decisions to those of us that are not of the trade. I distinctly remember dozing off a few times in some of the older videos, but these ones lately keep my attention solid for 20-30 minutes that feel like 10. Also, I feel like the majority of the people who watch your content care about your personality as much if not more than the machining itself. This just to say keep the experiment going I'm loving it
@RONALDEPAUL3 ай бұрын
perfectly said
@thecatofnineswords3 ай бұрын
Wholly agreed. I'm here for the people first, the machining second. If I just wanted to watch chips being cut, there are countless channels with no commentary, but I'm here not there. I doubly appreciate Mrs Inheritance being an active participant.
@kuplung223 ай бұрын
She is not boring. I like this addition.
@twalter12053 ай бұрын
First of all mad respect for the amount of patience and intellect to make this old lathe good again. Long time viewer and love watching you iron things out. Second, coming from mucho hard turning experience, CBNs want small DOC. Three to five thou. Unless it’s one of those fancy CBNs w/ built in chip breakers. Ceramic inserts can typically be pushed deeper DOC and feed, but only work well if you know for a fact the material is over 58ish HRC. Way to make it work!
@TourqueMonster3 ай бұрын
I'd run it. It's a touch closer than my two lathes here in the shop and if that 0.0005" is making or breaking a ID or OD tolerance on a one off project, you can take a quick cut on it with a fine stone or some emery cloth. I typically ID/OD grind anything that has multiple bearing surfaces that need to be held closer than +/-0.00025" as I look at lathes as mostly a +/-0.00025" process anyways. I think I'd rework that compound a little though, I'd loose sleep wondering if that compound would move on me while taking a larger cut on some hard material. Nice work!
@manu2173 ай бұрын
that drill press hardening contraption is brilliant! cracked me up real hard too
@Forshledian3 ай бұрын
19:52 - "Do the thing" Was that a Korra/Julie reference? I predict I am in a minority enjoying animated "kids" TV Shows and Machining KZbin channels.
@jameswright47323 ай бұрын
If you're in the minority, I'm there with you. Haha
@stretchbrah56273 ай бұрын
Honestly I would not imagine it's much of a minority. I worked in the trades and in the military, and there's a whole bunch of real "manly men" who are real nerds and watch anime etc. I am one of that number.
@DustinKreidler3 ай бұрын
I love watching you work and your descriptions, but I LOVE your interactions with your wife. She's awesome, you're awesome, and you're awesome together. Cheers on that!
@basementworkss3 ай бұрын
From a perspective of a machinist -> move away from the worn spot if necessary. From a perspective of a perfectionist who loves accurate machines -> absolutely get it ground. Nothing more satisfying than knowing your equipment can do it even if you don't need them to do so
@benkilgore3 ай бұрын
Gotta say, I really appreciate seeing you flounder around and make all sorts of missteps despite all your years of experience doing this stuff. It makes me feel a lot better about doing the same in my far less demanding projects. I like that we get to see the missteps and bungles. I do the same thing all the time. It's reassuring (and entertaining, since no one but me sees most of my time devouring snafus).
@justasimplebutterfly3 ай бұрын
"ow ffffffffidlesticks... f**k" im dead🤣
@holder3503 ай бұрын
Just want to say I like this “new” format of video. I always enjoy a live lecture over someone’s scripted reading of the information.
@inventorsyndrome88943 ай бұрын
I mean, if it intimidates you - it will DEFINITELY intimidate me
@andyg88883 ай бұрын
Ben, I’ve watched this 3 times already and still have no idea what’s going on BUT I love your videos and all the cool stuff you do in your little shop and it really inspires me to keep watching. Keep up the great work Ian!
@Nszewczak3 ай бұрын
Honestly seeing scraping in precision of the bed in the home shop would be so cool
@krasbestendig3 ай бұрын
But then aside from flat, it needs to be parallel in two dimensions. Since material is missing, material needs to be put back. Either on the bed where the wear is, or the tail stock that needs to ride the bed. I suspect the tailstock is also worn, but (hopefully) any wear has a consistent deviation. But if that consistent deviation means the tail stock is not straight, oh boy.... Also considering the grinding of the ID... That would be..... Bad....
@edvig20153 ай бұрын
The bed is hardened- it cannot be scraped
@xtnuser53383 ай бұрын
@@edvig2015 What do you mean it CANNOT be scraped? That only means you need a scraper blade that is even more hardened. Maybe a nice carbide blade or something?
@fairguinevere6663 ай бұрын
The jokes between you and your wife really elevate the videos. It's like how Car Talk was better for having the two of them, but with machining. I still like the interim bits where you just show what you're doing and explain it (also again, still with jokes) and it's well shot and edited, but it adds something as the framing device IMO! Nothing else like it in this youtube space.
@space_nerd94563 ай бұрын
... The bartender asks, "Turning around for a drink?"
@gmartineza87753 ай бұрын
Nah I'm just bored
@squelchstuff3 ай бұрын
Apart from the new format, and general quality of your productions, you have also nailed the "Ask the question that gets the most replies" if the comment count is anything to go by. Go with working further from the chuck as you commented, or as others have suggested - for that kind of tolerance, use the toolpost grinder which puts the carriage in the "good" working part of the bed.
@Poitisan3 ай бұрын
20:15 "What are you looking for" "My _wife_ center" ?!
@danc14703 ай бұрын
Just a note, when I was in the machine shops we used .0002” shim stock. Okay so it wasn’t actually sold as that. The old school points distributors… the 3/4”x1” capacitor… yep, cut that thing open, and you will find a coil of 4 layers, 2 of .0005” plastic and 2 of .00023” - .00025” aluminum.
@CorbinMusso883 ай бұрын
I want to do all this stuff to my mini lathe so I can convince myself that investing in a normal sized lathe is a good idea. I kinda started small to see if I could figure things out on a small scale before figuring them out on a large one. However, I don’t know anything about anything…so, that’s something.
@harriehausenman86233 ай бұрын
Sounds like a sure shot road to success 👍 (not being ironic here)
@MrBringerdeath3 ай бұрын
Admitting you know nothing is the best starting point!
@2testtest23 ай бұрын
I have a mini-lathe too. Great machine to learn on. Can't get away with doing things the wrong way, but when you do it right, it works decent.
@rsxinnovations3 ай бұрын
Watching you learn the nuances of the hardinge design is interesting. I've worked around them for years, so some of the things i never thought about are brought to light in your videos. That bushing that you took out from underneath the compound is not supposed to be the bearing surface. That bushing should only control axial movement, so when you clamp the compound down, it clamps on the bottom of the compound. As far as the bed goes, i think you're beyond the point of diminishing returns on having anything done with it. If you ever want any info on working holding, spindle mount tooling options, ideas, etc. Please reach out! There's an insane amount of options and capabilities that come with the hardinge bayonet spindle nose on that machine!
@flamingbullett3 ай бұрын
As someone with executive dysfunction, procrastinating and doing a bunch of minor things before suddenly getting the urge to fix every single thing at once- speaks to my soul
@lil_mocha37722 ай бұрын
it's really cool to see how much your wife has learned about machining just through being around you and editing your videos. IDK off camera but she sounds like someone who's awesome to bounce ideas off of.
@joeyg81723 ай бұрын
As a machinist for 30+yrs, if you're looking at trying to turn within 1-2 tenths on a lathe (consistently) there will be so many other variables to contend with besides just the bed wear. When trying to hold these tolerances you should be O.D./I.D. grinding them instead...much more controllable and accurate, JMHO. In my home shop, if I can hold a +.000 -.0005 on an OD part I'm super happy...unless it's a friction fit. 😂
@Locane2563 ай бұрын
I laughed SO much. I really enjoyed hearing you verbally abuse your lathe, because I do exactly the same thing when my tools arent behaving the way I want them to 😂 The new editing style on your videos is awesome. I love it, and it feels really natural to watch! Your wife is making you look goooooood 😂
@ChrisFloofyKitsune3 ай бұрын
+1 to "can you just flip the bed around"
@bobmazzi74353 ай бұрын
Probably not. If I remember correctly, the belt drive comes up through the bed. So, it only fits on one way.
@thomas-gk9jp2 ай бұрын
The fact that "top commentary" are about the moment your wife talk in the video is an answer 😁 And good job making it so tiny
@DVMMIE-c7n3 ай бұрын
19:55 ...sir and MA'AM!!?! IN THE SHOP?!?! Scandalous!
@ericberman41933 ай бұрын
Good video. Your wife displays an informed, logical mind when discussing options for truly resolving the bed alignment issue versus machining operation work-arounds.
@mileselmlinger92593 ай бұрын
i really like you goofing off more in your videos
@erolaattori23173 ай бұрын
These videos genuinely bring me joy. Thank you.
@radical_ans3 ай бұрын
"Do I look good?" "You look like you" The shade of it all!!
@kshysztof96492 ай бұрын
I've been putting off watching your last three videos for... a month which is not that bad actually lol. You've changed the style to even more vloggish type which is nice, very nice. Love what you have to show always :) Best Regards
@roseroserose5883 ай бұрын
if you need anything to be sub thousandth tolerances, you have a surface grinder!
@christopherjones71913 ай бұрын
Problem is the length of it, his grinder doesn't have that kind of travel.
@jrmintz13 ай бұрын
He also has a tool post grinder
@LikeFactoryMade3 ай бұрын
@@jrmintz1 Which will also follow the path of a worn out bed..
@Sak-zo1ui3 ай бұрын
He also has another lathe to use!
@xtnuser53383 ай бұрын
@@LikeFactoryMade The tool post grinder sicks out further towards the head stock than does regular cutting tools on the tool post. So when using the tool post grinder, the cross slide probably won't ever reach that low spot on the bed anyhow.
@BardanJusik133 ай бұрын
Honestly I miss that pre-recorded voice a lot. The vlog cutscenes are cool, but the nice narration during the machine operations was what really set your videos apart from the others. Would you consider bringing back to that style? 🥺
@jeffmiller61713 ай бұрын
I chuckled at the hatchet. Keep it up.
@beautifulsmall3 ай бұрын
For bed wear I recently used a moglice diy mix . I made a vid a few years ago where the mix ripped the granite surface off a greassed surface plate I was trying to cast a straight edge on . My M300 had a dip of 0.5mm max over 16 inches. bought a 600mm straight edge for engines, it was wide enough to cover one side of the V way on the nearside. Most of the wear is on the cutting side so i built up that inner side . measured the wear with a dial gauge every inch and calculated the volume of filler needed, mixed 130% into a syringe and distributes pro-rata onto the nearside inner V, coverer in clingfilm and clamp the straight edge from the very unworn front of the bed to the back. Its had ~ 20 hours , no peeling.. the mix was . JB weld 2 part epoxy, bronze powder, molybdenum disulphide. aprox 75/12/12. and now the dip is +0.05mm max
@scottpitner42983 ай бұрын
….walks in to a bar, patiently awaits its TURN 😬
@Pyc_a_boo3 ай бұрын
Gonna say it again, love the *talking to the camera* format compared to the narration. 10/10 contect reguardles
@MrSupahlovah3 ай бұрын
ze lathe, ze craig, but where where are... ZE MISSILES
@alangliniak95143 ай бұрын
Hokay so......
@slidey17883 ай бұрын
I am le tired
@chemicalvamp3 ай бұрын
THIS audience member admires involving your wife! She is not out in the woods, in fact every episode, she picks up new ideas, she remains as a sponge. My friend she will become the brains of this operation before you know it. Set her up on a machine, I would love to see her succeed. Long live you two
@xtnuser53383 ай бұрын
Never teach your wife everything you know. Unless you're tired of her.
@kylethatcher58283 ай бұрын
Real question: are you capable of using it as is, being satisfied that the parts will be “good enough,” but also knowing that perfection is attainable, albeit with a high price? You don’t seem like the “good enough” type, and that’s why your channel is so special.
@xtnuser53383 ай бұрын
One also has to consider whether one's retirement will be "good enough" if one keeps spending money chasing unnecessary perfection.
@Twargan3 ай бұрын
Your wife sounds lovely. She's very passionate and supportive of your job, and loves to hear about your work and progress. The teasing is great too. Lol
@TaylorTheOtter3 ай бұрын
Oh my gods, you two are relationship goals. I need to find a guy that I can joke around with like that.
@mailleweaver3 ай бұрын
Good luck finding one who looks like himself and manages to look good doing it.
@tapp1t3 ай бұрын
Great video! I was beginning to be bored of videos about chasing perfection, this is a very interesting departure which I enjoyed very much. As a machinist with two post war toolroom lathes one of which I have made almost perfect over a couple of years and the other in daily use but screaming for attention, I would say that anything that you can do to make a machine as good as it was originally designed to be will be worth it in the long run. These machines of this era were as good as it got in terms of manual precision.
@petermunk44673 ай бұрын
You know what doesn't cost 2grand? Learning to scrape.
@theKashConnoisseur3 ай бұрын
Time is money, and learning to scrape costs a lot of time.
@joshhiett74193 ай бұрын
Yeah but you’d have to scrap away the 95 % of the bed that isn’t low, which would be an insane amount of time.
@ADBBuild3 ай бұрын
The Richard King scraping class says otherwise...
@LikeFactoryMade3 ай бұрын
@@ADBBuild I think the bed is hardened, so even with a carbide blade it would be a ton of work
@JCisHere7783 ай бұрын
These ways are hardened. Scraping would be an absolute pain. Also scraping on the exposed surface of the bed will lead to quick wear
@nichaze1233 ай бұрын
As a Machinist of five years now I have run into this problem of wear on the first few inches nearest the chuck on most lathes i have worked with. The most common solution is just to ignore it / work around it by using the compound slide to offset the position of the saddle on the bed away from the wear. Otherwise if you do machine on the worn spot we just end up polishing the shaft till its right. I have seen lathes be refurbished and the bed re-ground to be true but it never seems to last very long and the cost is pretty high. So in my opinion not worth it. Love the videos and wish you luck in your future projects.
@harriehausenman86233 ай бұрын
Fantastically clever icogni(toe) pun!! 😆 🤣 very *sneaky* 😁 Oh, and the video was nice too 🤗