Finnish KP m/44

[@bigmike8847]

You forgot to say "Hello everyone....My name's Ian and this is Forgotten Weapons"

[@nurglina]

Lol

[@nurglina]

Gun Jesus

[@BenSmith-vj7vh]

Nah, Ian gets his facts right.

[@jarijaakkonen3474]

M31 manufacturing time is over 8h .Finland have many PPS43 but make own model because now can use drum, stick and coffin magazines. These gun use tanks and long range patrols. Machining time is 2,5h. Lighter like M31.

[@youngThrashbarg]

Just in time for Finnish independence day, nice.

[@Stevarooni]

Happy Independence Day!

[@tuomashaanpaa8209]

Jep! 6.12.

[@xboxnube]

every time i heard him say "see-Oh-me" I cried a little on the inside. lol. "SWO-me" like saying "Swol" without the "l".

[@kirkmooneyham]

Yeah, I liked the video, and it seems like a great subgun, but that pronunciation, wow. I was going to say "Soo-oh-me", though.

[@55chevy327]

Just watching that thing shoot full auto makes me giggle with joy.

[@GunDrummer]

Best place ever

[@scepticalwalker3984]

I believe the 36 rd stick mag was developed in Sweden for the Swedish K (m/45) SMG. The Finns adopted it to replace the Suomi drum mags

[@DesertAvenger]

*PPS-43 not PPSh-43. Also, the butt plate folds the other way when the stock folds, so it can rest completely flush against the gun.

[@spudrobera4099]

It didn't see service during WW2 because it was put to production shortly after. Saw service with Finnish peacekeepers in Sinai, Cyprus and so on.

[@chartreux1532]

Probably hard to get, even in the USA. But i'd love to see a Review of a Finnish Suomi KP/-31 made by Tikkakoski, which was the best Maschinenpistole according to my now 100 year old (and amazingly still alive) paternal Grandfather. He served side by side with Finnish Soldiers in Karelia, and well on the Finnish Eastern Front when he was with the 6. Waffen-SS Div. "Nord", and he told me many times that this was not only his but also the prefered MP among most Germans on the "Eismeerfront" up in Finland. I know that a bit over 5000 of those original Finnish Ones were sold to Switzerland in the 1940s and i hope many of them are now in Collections there, or maybe some even made it to the USA. I served a few Years with the Gebirgsjäger (231. Battalion Bad Reichenhall) and while i was lucky to try out many great originals from the Wars from many Countries, this one seems impossible to find. So would love it if you Guys can get your Hands on one sooner or later so i can find out from trusty Folks like you Guys if the Hype of my Grandfather and his former Comrades is accurate. Also Comments are welcome if anyone reading this has Experience with the Model i'm talking about Prost and Cheers from the Berchtesgadener Land in the cold Bavarian Alps

[@keijorautiainen9571]

Hei. Kyllä suomikonepistooli -31 Tikkakoski on yhä legenda Suomessa. Kun olin armeijassa, oli niitä aseita varastossa pitkä rivi. Pääsin mukaan ampumaan parin henkilökuntaan kuuluvan kanssa ja sain kokeilla KP-31. Olisi tehokas ase lähi taistelussa. Oli kokemus ampua, piippu ei noussut ampuessa 😀

[@Tyler-ts2ld]

The KP/-31 is still around. The main reason you don’t see many is because those of us who have one, won’t sell them.

[@9613enrico]

And this gun was easier for sure to carry while skiing

[@brucebelvin2058]

I find it comfortable to carry when building a snowman.

[@sunnidropp4655]

It doesnt bother me when stocking the freezer at work.

[@donalddesloges9703]

The best gun channel on KZbin no question!! Love you guys

[@robertrichards3433]

Pretty smooth and controllable.

[@Doppeldropper]

Nice, thank you. That very 36 stick magazine type was introduced after ww2 wars here, but it was meant to be used with the war time triple stacked stick magazine and drum too 🙂. Pst. you forgot to turn that base plate an additional 180 degrees so it rests "flat" on top of the receiver - handy to shoot folded too, even one handed 🤗

[@gorilla_85]

Kiitos for showing this finnish beauty and Tack for mentioning the swedish k👍❤ Google the words btw😉❤

[@sanderrehepapp5219]

Who needs to Google those words?!? 😉And its funny how everyone talks about the m45 and m/44 like theyre retired, we still use them! Theyre not only a part of history, but theyre still used daily

[@gorilla_85]

@@sanderrehepapp5219 😆👍💯

[@timewave02012]

I'm American and learned "tack" from The Pirate Bay a long time ago, but the only Finnish I knew was "Suomi".

[@fwulfta-1839]

*kiitos

[@bryanduchane2371]

Love the sound of empty shells hitting the concrete!!!

[@ДмитрийПантелеев-д9я]

Добротная копия ППС. Финны, умеют сделать красиво.

[@КИРАХЛЕБАЛИНА]

Полностью согласен полная копия клон Судаевского ПП! И чего они так аосхищаются финами непонятно...

[@79Oltu]

M/44 a.k.a "Peltiheikki" Very nice gun to shoot.

[@adamsowers8957]

Make America full auto again!!!

[@draxxsklounst6595]

This guys just mag dumping in full auto when all I can find at the stores near me is rounds no one but Gun Jesus has heard of

[@tom3699]

You just shot $125.00 worth of ammo with today’s crazy prices of ammo.

[@OptimusJedi]

Very cool. Finnish arms and history are very interesting.

[@swedishtacticals8376]

Sending LOVE from Sweden! Yupp, the Swedish K and this Finish sub are real fun to shoot. However it takes a couple of minutes to learn how to shoot it semi 😀👍

[@koff41]

I shot full auto with AK4 close range, haha almost had skidmarks. Gotland KA3 85/86.

[@thomasschreiber9559]

The36 round magazine was from the Swedish K, an excellent and reliable mag in a reliable SMG. Great combo.

[@ninsku2012]

Hyvää itsenäisyyspäivää🇫🇮

[@bgezal]

Swedish K M.45 B military ammo packs comes on 6x6 speed loader clips. You use a simple stamped steel speed loader and fill a stick in 10 seconds or less.

[@VaeringWoT]

That 36 round magazine was designed for the Swedish M/45 Carl Gustaf smg. The finns modified their kp44's as to accept the M/45's 36 round magazine during the 1950's.

[@gluemola]

I have those exact same peltors. Not for shooting though, but for protection from renovation noises from neighbours.

[@pystykorva7114]

Eric did you know Suomi means Finland in Finnish ;)

[@sanderrehepapp5219]

I was a little confused at first cause i heard xiaomi, but then i understood that he meant the drum magged "soumi" i have always known it as the "m-37/39" but don't have much experience with it anyways

[@cannonball666]

Yes, and Finnish means Finnish in English.

[@pystykorva7114]

@@cannonball666 did you mean the language or the ethnicity? ;)

[@draxxsklounst6595]

Kinda makes you wonder how it ended up being called Finland then

[@pystykorva7114]

@@draxxsklounst6595 The word Finland probably originates from word Fenland (Marshland) and all the germanic peoples called Finland by that. All the Finnic languages call it Suomi which is probably derived from Suomaa (Marshland in Finnish). A huge portion of the country used to be marshes back in the day let's say 2000 years ago :)

[@JoeGarofaloII]

Apparently everyone in the comments speaks Finnish now 😅

[@timewave02012]

More like a lot of people aren't completely ignorant of Finnish.

[@TheLemminkainen]

Swedish K is continum to this weapon. Swedish K mags were used later on this gun. In UN troops send by Finland had KP44s and K mags

[@454FatJack]

At 2:21 shoulder piece folded wrong, it goes flat when correctly closed. PPS-42/43 Copy in 9mm. DUX 53 etc variants after WW 2 in Germany , like new German Border Guard. Those done too by Willy Daugs boss of Tikkakoski gun factory, Witch also made m/31. He left Finland fall 1944 to go home Germany. to avoid possible Soviet invasion /confiscation.

[@caleblong2918]

Such a badass piece of history!! Wish those were readily available to citizens all over America!

[@raphlvlogs271]

steel stamping revolutionised the manufacturing of firearms.

[@Asko83]

Suomi M/31 originally had a 20 round stick magazine and a 40 round drum magazine. The latter was not liked, it was hard to reload because you had to balance the cartridges nose down and if they tipped, you had to try to get them back up and possibly had to start all over again. The later 70rd (not 72) drum magazine was liked for firepower though these were harder to carry around. 50rd "coffin" magazines also existed as Swedish military had designed these for their Suomi SMGs and these were used in Finnish military during the wars. They had the advantage of being easier to carry but unfortunately proved to be unreliable. The 36rd magazines your M/44 uses on the other hand are likely Swedish K magazines. After the war many of the M/44s were modified to accept the Swedish K magazines instead of the Suomi magazines.

[@adrianostafford8240]

After the 1st burst, close range setting, we said, "oh yeah, with the head nod and all." That is definitely a nice and highly effective system he's got his hands on in today's episode.

[@BenSmith-vj7vh]

PPS-43, as in Sudayev. The Sh was Shpagen, and was an entirely different gun, the PPSh-41. The PPSh-41 was closer in design to the Suomi.

[@이동연-c6d]

This gun is historic and rare!

[@JoeGarofaloII]

Not really, I got 7 of em 😝

[@이동연-c6d]

@@JoeGarofaloII Oh wow, you are so lucky.

[@cannonball666]

Maybe it's rare in Korea.

[@JoeGarofaloII]

@@이동연-c6d nah I wish, I was just kidding

[@hahaayukko5543]

The Finns didn't run into PPsh's. The Russians ran into Suomis during the Winter War. It was a real big surprise for them how much damage they were capable of in trench/bunker type situation. And it was a big reason they started mass producing loads of SMGs.

[@joebrands8580]

I have a Radom PPH43 C in semi auto, affordable, very simple design, idiot proof, part of the bolt return is leather! The foldable stock was tack welded closed, so I could own one without a tax stamp. Love the 7.62x25 rds too!

[@brucebelvin2058]

It's PPS43-C

[@jlock9085]

Unrelated topic but I have a hypothetical question. What would be more lethal in your opinion: 1. A .17 caliber 20 grain tungsten solid at 4500 fps 2. A .50 caliber 500 grain hp at 800 fps I ask because I've always wondered if a tiny blazingly fast bullet that does not simply disintegrate do more damage than a monstrous slow bullet. Thoughts?

[@itsahumanperson6174]

Not Iraqveteran, I'm just an armchair gun-nerd so do take this with a pinch of salt, but... What you need to consider is that example 1 will just go almost clean through. Sure, it will cause notable damage, but it won't cause too much damage. With the second example, there's larger potential for the bullet to yaw/tumble inside the body, thus causing more damage and thereby being more lethal and or fatal. This is also one of the reasons that, in spite of the .45 ACP being a rather slow moving bullet, it's known for having high stopping power. It's a big bullet, and it moves slowly. So to answer your question, the second example would likely do significantly more damage.

[@dirkmagurk7086]

TEXAS IS THE REASON! WOOOO!

[@aronbregman6753]

Love ur stuff man

[@joshjohnston2986]

2020 had been rough on us all but damn ian from forgotten weapons is looking a lil rough

[@oscr_zen]

wait, Xiaomi makes guns now? damn that company has no limits!

[@hackerbot809]

Suomi

[@koff41]

I have a Xiaomi. :)

[@moriarty6958]

Love this guys accent. Is it just like a southern accent?

[@guyfox1206]

Ya he's from Georgia but he would pass for Texan. My draw is a little worse but I think it would pass anywhere in the South 🤠

[@mre.w.2850]

Way better than the ppsh that thing is a dick ache to match mags and clean when half the welds and machine marks look like shit build up, great guns runs like a Swiss watch

[@dt-4535]

Cool music at the end of the video 😶

[@daze4341]

Would love to see gun and prepper channels unite , build each other up . I know a lot of us are cross trained lol

[@jamesgravel7755]

They are sweet. But who did the reweld? High school shop class. Geez that thing looked rough. Very cool none the less. Ran perfect so I guess it’s not that bad.

[@bennettcallihan1978]

that stock fold lol

[@WhattAreYouSaying]

Weird placing off the rear sight, it's very far back...Never seen that before. Was it like that originally or has it been modified? On mine, and everyone else I have seen, the rear sight is on the middle off the gun, between the magazine and pistol grip.

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

Nice catch there. I guess previous owner wanted longer sight radious.

[@erichusayn]

Looks like fun!

[@markmcintosh7095]

You can't help but have fun with that gun

[@christopherwaring3792]

Thought of the Swedish K immediately as well... But that's a beautiful weapon.

[@ryanesque2437]

Wtf is a ppsh43 he said they ran into at the beginning

[@Lutz101]

Nice, but the PPS-43 with the flatter shooting 7.62x25mm ammo has MUCH better penetration with the higher velocity steel core bullets. Likely more reliable too.

[@КИРАХЛЕБАЛИНА]

СССР выпустило ППС43 несколько милллионов штук! ППС воевална равне с ППШ последние 2года ВОВ с середины 43 по 45 год и Зарекомендовал себя как надёжное безотказное оружие. Ну а Фины скопировали как и Шведы...

[@stevezissu6606]

Awesome!

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

Nice ! I never knew there was a World of Tanks museum 😅

[@walterpalmer2749]

I'll take one. SOLD !!

[@SimonTekConley]

I bet the tank would do a good job too

[@dchunter100]

Looked like it handled well, little muzzle rise.

[@thomasschreiber9559]

Is'nt that a copy of the Soviet PP 43?

[@BenSmith-vj7vh]

Pps-43, yes.

[@JoeMac1983]

All that steel would have been fun to hold onto during winter warfare.

[@zybel2000]

It would have been nice to have a camera next to the target

[@jcrew6657]

Nice!

[@pepethemagicfrog8023]

It's pronounced "Sue Me", not Syoo Oh Me

[@trumpjongun8831]

Still wrong tho. You miss the o sound. O in Suomi sounds almost the same than O letter on "wrong" or "strong". It's more like a short "Sue" then "O" and short "Me". Sue-o-me.

[@fortyfive4632]

Not in America. Lol

[@mrouija25]

Awesome video!! But , We want a meltdown!!!!

[@iseahaappleseed5968]

I watch tones of videos a day

[@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860]

Cool sub gun. I’d like to see a danish madsen in action.

[@bitfunk24]

Looks like a Finnish copy of the PPS-43, which is essentially a simplified version of the PPSh...which is a Russian copy of the Suomi KP m/31...I think.

[@M0n01it]

Actually, PPD is a Russian copy of the Suomi KP m/31

[@bitfunk24]

@@M0n01it Oh, right.The PPSh is just largely based on it. So, when Eric says the Fins were running into a lot PPSh's in the Winter war he actually meant PPS-42/43's? Which makes no sense because neither gun was in service at that time. Looks more like later on the Finns took queues from the Russians when they simplified their standard smg with the intro of the PPS-42. Seeing as it's called KP-44 it's likely this happened about year after, which makes sense.

[@GIhomie]

@@bitfunk24 ppsh is not a copy of the Suomi konepistooli m/31. The drum for the ppsh is a copy of the KP drum, but the Open Bolt action is different. Kp-44 is just a 9mm copy of The pps-43. Side note: I got to shoot a early war model of the kp-31 during my service on The FDF, was fun.

[@cannonball666]

@@bitfunk24 The PPSh is NOT based on the KP31. You are basing your opinion superficially on outward appearances. If you knew the internal parts of each they are like night and day. Go to Forgotten Weapons review of the PPSh41 for further details.

[@bitfunk24]

@@cannonball666 I wasn't basing that solely off of aesthetics. But, thanks for informing me of the contrary.

[@williamlee6234]

Good gun.

[@raphlvlogs271]

would the stock block the sites when it was folded up?

[@paavonurmi6054]

He folded it wrong. The butt plate part of it was upside down when he folded it

[@joshuagibson2520]

Anni and Lauri are my favorite Finn's.

[@Turmootti]

Who?

[@joshuagibson2520]

@@Turmootti google Anni and Lauri

[@mandpvideos7355]

I hope you win a grundy award 🌲🌲🌲👍👋

[@craigsavarese8631]

Don’t forget to get some Tex-Mex while you’re in Texas!

[@somefool4625]

Not really used during WW2, but our UN troops used it in Suez.

[@mishawakapost2681]

Uvaldi, Texas, is the birthplace of Dale Evans.

[@TheLemminkainen]

Suomi thanks again Eric! PerkeleE!!

[@kak4169]

nice Finnish Finish

[@mastwachtel6463]

So its a mix of an MP40 and an PPSH?

[@hopeinen5287]

No. Just a plain copy of the PPS-43 in 9x19 and able to use a drum magazines from the KP/31.

[@nicklindsey1840]

bet those are very hard to find

[@Miohunter444]

Sweet gun!!! Any meltdowns coming in the future?

[@1timerod]

Nice

[@demonsoldierchem]

It’s look like better than Grease Gun

[@gettitnow3785]

I still have one of those, but it's semi

[@philstocks7859]

HOW CAN I DONATE CASH TO SUPPORT YOUR DOOR TO DOOR ELECTION OPERATIONS IN GEORGIA?

[@nicozev8723]

Hey! That's a Romanian ammo crate 😁! Slick gun btw

[@MrVolvoapina]

PELTIHEIKKI! It could translate to something like sheet metal john or tin metal john

[@nickchervenka9391]

Damn, never been so early to a video

[@christianlibrul]

See-ohmee!!!

[@georgiacornjerker1457]

Tell Flem hello for me!

[@kelchnerguitarist]

“Ppsh 43” ??? 1:21

[@logandilullo5030]

Do you know FPS Russia and what happened to him?

[@Gladiator34B]

Never been this early

[@crazyorwhat]

I see why you wanted to review this gun.

[@rudyruiz9615]

better than a Sten?

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

Much better.

[@patriotenfield3276]

When PPS 43 Defected to Finland

[@454FatJack]

How 🇫🇮drum moved 🚩? Communist SPY’s like in Fbi

[@Hairysteed]

"Syohmi"😆

[@chestertnted]

Coolarama!!