Fiora - Before the Rework

[@CryoBeat]

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[@jackdalton9133]

No

[@Naidisbus]

Full crit Fiora: I spy someone with less than 110% HP

[@telepotatoe8508]

This is way too funny 😂

[@SaiKisaragi]

Imma try that out

[@jamescalona7055]

OLD FIORA WILL ALWAYS BE AND FOREVER IN MY HEART

[@Dragunov_07]

Same they even made her look like Auntie Fiora now. Her youthfulness is gone.

[@Jvstm]

Sameeee

[@octaviobigurrarena5812]

Same bro

[@DoporaBHe6o]

same. she was the reason I kept playing league and i still remember the day they killed her. rip, she will always be in my heart.

[@Thiccems69]

same, same.

[@Xersias]

My issue with fiora personally has always been her true damage and the fact that her w has a super strong attack speed slow, I like the design of the w in itself but think the slow kills alot of the skill in the ability in certain matchups. The vitals themselves don't anger me its the fact they do true damage meaning you can't itemize against as well as youd like.

[@antonioreconquistador]

Roite, the w is a "win fight" button early/mid in the wrong matchups, not exactly the best designed basic defensive ability, counterable only by waiting and moving as far out of the way as possible. It still feels tryndamere/yi'ish with more power in her true damage and more skill-based basic abilities.

[@alexanderartaza2173]

The true damage is based on max hp too so you cant be a beefy boy neither

[@antonioreconquistador]

@@alexanderartaza2173 well thats what makes it inexorable if it's a good enough fiora in a bad enough matchup. I get that it's a power balance thing but it's overpowering with all the resets

[@verySharkey]

@@antonioreconquistador I'm not fully with you on this. If she counters a stun with W it's a fair thing for her to stun back. Well designed. In other cases her W is as simple as any other skillshot to play around. This is before she hits 2-4 items and becomes impossible to 1v1. It is a skill you need to play around like any other. If she uses it and you dodge the W slow she is just dead. Granted yes her W is easy to hit in trades if ur focused on fighting her but it's also easily dodged if you reserve your movement skills for it.

[@astrotecn]

@@alexanderartaza2173 i seriously dont know what is wrong with riot fiora is basically impossible to build against, seriously. true damage ok, true damage on %health? meanwhile riot guts true damage champs left and right but fiora is ok because she sells skins or some shit

[@jespoketheepic]

I never agreed with the reasoning for giving her so much true damage. There were definitely less polarizing ways they could have fulfilled the vision of her being able to duel anyone.

[@dasetman]

Hope you do Evelynn next, I miss her. Running to suckerpunch people and sprinting away was too fun.

[@Don-mp6tv]

Sunfire Evelynn

[@quadq3285]

Microevelyn

[@PacmanLickThisGuysAs]

Never played eve once in over a decade of lol but I do miss the days when Evelyn use to be a fugly and a troll pick

[@autisonm]

AD Top splitpushing Eve.

[@lmSheep]

I missed the days where she was basically a tank engage. Now I have to play like a little b*tch

[@Tjias__ttv]

i remember playing her back then, and her ult was so fun to use

[@christianautilus374]

im still waiting for xerath before the rework my guy, pls dont let me down in this one bro

[@CryoBeat]

Oh the joys of rooting oneself.

[@DaekoTan]

I was a Fiora main very briefly before they reworked her. To be honest, as much as the new one is more versatile and better against tanks, I liked the simplicity of the old one cause the style meshed with my playstyle a lot better. I get that Riot wants counterplay so they dumbed down the speed of most Champions' animations (but Flash animation cancelling and buffering is a thing, not to mention Katarina's entire existence) to give them a bigger """window for counterplay""". P.S. The thing about the new Riposte that not many people talk about is that not only does it slow movespeed, but it also slows attack speed. Yeah. It's a mini-Wither if you hit it on an ADC. Not to mention how easy it is to catch someone off guard with it by changing the angle/position of it with Q (slide parrying)

[@ultimatemacchia]

the attack speed reduction is mentioned in the video, by its official name, cripple

[@PacmanLickThisGuysAs]

The atk speed slow needs a nerf tbh. Ik parry is like 24 sec CD but it's crazy how in some match-ups you just hit them with the basic w and you can't even trade in auto fights

[@owo4470]

I actually didn't like the old fiora even though she was my staple pick along with riven. Her gameplay was so monotonous and boring and her abilities, other than her e and ult, barely feel like they made any impact

[@Dragunov_07]

Same Old Fiora main here and what makes me fully decided to stop playing her is they made her into auntie fiora. Old arrogant fiora unlikr before.

[@Hclody95]

you still have master yi tho, the Q is like her R and has a shorter cooldown so kinda makes up for the lounge, the W is not a parry but it heals and denies 80% or so of the damage taken, the E is an autoattack reset and the R is movement speed to run people down

[@1893Mauser]

Max ad runes, lvl 1 riposte, longsword pots start. I never lost a lvl 1 1v1.

[@masterdoge7219]

The funny thing is that the vitals are always hated by those playing against and with Fiora, because if you take it you complain about the damage, but if you play her that thing seems to nearly never work properly. Also, I can't remember correctly right now, but wasn't her new ult supposed to be pretty much Mordekaiser's R and they said they "didn't have the technology at the time"? All I can say is that her current ult, while definitely useful, is only actually fun to use every five minutes, when you have flash up, so you can play the "Chinese Fiora" minigame you've been practicing for a while.

[@kaanbeceni9041]

First one because you (not you but those who bitch about it) couldnt play around it, and second is also you couldnt play around it. All those bitching about passive only need one answer, git gud.

[@DonDavelle]

It's probably that and a conjunction of what it was intended to do, it was supposed to teleport her and the target so they could duel and the winner would give their team a big buff, the problem was like Pre-rework Poppy and Rengar there was nothing to dissuade her from just constantly picking your 0/10 adc and always winning

[@Zerum69]

It would be nice to get another Fiora rework that first of all removes the toxic Max Health True Dmg on her passive, I'd also like it if enemies had 5 or 6 possible spots instead of just 4, and I'd also prefer it if she had either Normal True Dmg or Max Hp Physical Dmg Secondly I'd like it if the rework attempts to ressurect her original kit and mix it with the live variant, perhaps her Q could have a slightly longer dash with two charges (similar to Aatrox E, where if you only use 1 charge the cooldown is lower than if you use both), her W feels pretty good as it is rn, although I'd lower the cripple effect on enemy attack speed and I'd make the QW combo easier to pull off so she can move while parrying more effectively Her R is where I'd love to see a big rework making it resembles that "Manual Blade Waltz" Guinsoo mentioned, an idea would be that when she marks a Chapion with her R, it lasts for a longer duration than on live and instead of revealing all vitals at once, she would enter a "frenzy mode" where all her abilities and passive have reduced costs and cooldowns, a mini URF if you will, also instead of having 4 passives available all the time, It could cycle through each indivutal passive spot randomly and very quickly with each proc giving her a fairly small aoe heal and reducing her costs and cooldowns even further, if target dies before this "Blade Frenzy" ends the closest enemy champion inside the "Frenzy zone" would get marked for the remaining time The idea behind this R would be to make her dmg numbers quite low but give her abilities a lot of speed and mobility like what a light weight fencer should have, "death from 1000 cuts" you know?

[@EskayRogue]

The fact thatr your Dad supports you in youtube is so wholesome, I love it!

[@Mike-iz6li]

By the way, everyone say she has no skills but that is not true. -The trick is when to dive in and when not -which select the target you get back to -how to trade Like old leaque. Its easy to understand, but its not that easy. Also what makes the true old fiora so nice for me to play. -not a walking chicken animation -The beautifull art -And offcourse the amazing R - though i miss the catch up with the double Q and the moventspeed and att speed to allow JUNGLE. Yess fiora jungle was possible which i used alot. Was so FUN to play. She is sooo boring now, just a glowing lamp art with a strange face, boring Q. Just poke and run... that is fun... 2x small att speed. Wauw gurantee crit 1 hit and 1 slow.. yippie... and the ult is soo annoying. Now i need todance around the champ which is alnost impossible with the all the moventspeed all champa got. This my main champ got screwed. Riot try to force change something that dont need to be changed.. only the W is somethuing its good

[@Orange_Tree_]

My guess would be that Guinsoo dropped idea of steroid ultimate somewhere late into development, cuz, honestly, vitals do have a bit of a vibe of an ADC, since, well, they are litreally a minigame of Vayne W. Depending on whether Guinsoo wanted Fiora to be a faithful but more precise bruiser that weaves attacks around opponents, or rather a mentioned prior pokey mid ADC/assassin, I imagine there could be respectively more or less vitals, than current four cardinal directions ones. But regardless of whichever was the goal, it's kinda obvious Guinsoo originally wanted vitals to provide that constant high dps an ADC should put out during the fight, perhaps attack speed even affecting frequency of vitals appearing. Fiora's supposed ultimate then more than likely would just make vitals reappear instantly, or perhaps even activate all vitals permanently until ult ends, functioning in that steroid style. And, judging by descriptions, Q would likely not just advance cooldown, but refresh completely upon hitting vital, either passively or during ultimate, completing "the feeling of old Blade Waltz" Guinsoo talks about. And, while I'm not one myself, I feel like old Fiora mains would appreciate such rework, even if it would require concentration of a fourteen year old quirked up on adderall and riding sugar rush to get the most out of such ult. However, that's where the problems come in, because giving Fiora a no-cooldown or even just close to no-cooldown dash would revert her gameplay back to pressing buttons as fast as you can without much thought (beside thinking of pressing in the direction of vital, but it ain't much of a difference). Clearly, no-cooldown Q had to be removed, but then Fiora couldn't consistently hit vitals for that "R/Q as Blade Waltz" idea, so movement speed was added, but it gave her too much mobility outside ultimate, so amount of vitals was changed, but procing them became too hard, so AD ratio was increased, but it made her ultimate too bursty, so infinite vitals were limited to maximum, but it made pay-off too small, so a completion reward was added - and that, basically, is how I imagine Grand Challenge came to be. Of course, tis' all naught but speculation on my part, but I feel like Fiora could in fact so easily be changed into full-blown ADC just by meddling with her vitals a little, that there is a kernel of truth somewhere in this theory. And seeing how Yi was "adjusted" recently, perhaps Fiora will also recieve a touch that may push her down to the bottom.

[@N12015]

Is a good way of putting it. That being said, the reddit posts he showed are not really very credible sources but rather look like crybabies.

[@MariosCelestial]

You know what I kinda miss? Old Yorick, spamming ghouls on people was fun. Then, on rework release, we were all calling him Nasus 2.0 I even build him the exact same. I'd love to see a vid on Old Yorick, or old Karma, the most hilarious one-shot in the game

[@Terker2]

Old fiora is like old Sion. Where online the people with their extreemly rose tinted glasses still defend her.

[@nida4602]

Eh, IMO people are still bitter about her kit not having much to do with her past self, similar to other reworks (give me Aatrox back you cowards). It's not that she was necessarily better to play as or against, or that she was healthier for the game... it's just that she lost her identity. You can see fragments of her old abilities in the rework, but that's it. They changed her playstyle and gave her a bullshit passive. There were better ways to rework her, basically.

[@DillonMeyer]

I can't believe you didn't go in depth about reworked Fiora's CHIN. That was a huge thing I remember when she came out that people were pissed bout in the splash art, for literally no reason.

[@nubidubi23]

ACTIVE: Fiora enters parry, a defensive stance, for 2 seconds

[@Draven137]

Old Fiora in right hands was the Ultimate Unstoppable 1 vs 9 champion. The reason why "OP" champions have a lower win rate than easy to play ones is lot of people can't play them and they just int make the "OP" champions look completely useless.

[@Draven137]

By the way the Chinese translation of her title "无双剑姬" is the definition of how good she was.

[@TheAzorg]

Honestly i forgot old fiora altogether apart form her R... This shit still visits me in my nightmares

[@augustusmaximus11]

About the splashart: It was great to see a female champion who is a normal human ( Kalista and Illaoi don't count) and an adult ( not a child like Annie) that doesn't have the standard pretty fantasy babe face and Fiora is just the champ that it makes sense for. The old Fiora face gave her the nobile , rich , strict and untouchable look which matches 1 to 1 with her lore. She used to look like someone who says "Insolent peasants" to others. The hair color change was absolutely justified, that washed out purple looked sooooo bad.

[@DoporaBHe6o]

so freaking BASED.

[@verySharkey]

I used to be a Fiora main in the old days. Her playstyle differed greatly, being more of an attack damage based carry than a duelist. I do still play modern Fiora though I dropped her as a main. What made me love her was the amount of mechanical skill expression you could tease out of her rather simple kit. Having 3 aa cancels in her base kit with old tiamat as a 4th cancel had fiora on par with riven in learning to properly cancel and aa. It sure was a niche playstyle and the skill expression that modern fiora requires is still as great if not greater. It differs in that old fiora required short bursts of intense mechanical play while new fiora requires constant high focus and mechanics without much breaks to function. It indeed exchanged the assassin like playstyle and that is very sad to me as we don't have many toplane assassins and it took one away from us.

[@Elephanthobo]

The problem is that so many other champs have those similar abilities. I mostly remember her being a worse/easier jax. And auto resets aren't even a kit, that's just a basic skill nowadays. Like today, could you honestly say old Fiora has a unique kit? Unique tools? Fiora as a character makes no sense to have any of those abilities. They fit 100% better on Yi, since he's basically Fiora now

[@verySharkey]

@@Elephanthobo Yeah I would definitely say old fiora had a unique kit, it may have needed some modernization, her old W should have gotten the AD steroid removed and exchanged for being a shield that completely blocks the next ability that hits you if you ask me. Old Fiora and YI are further apart as champs than new Aatrox is from Riven, just because they fill the same concept as melee ad carries is not enough reason for me to argue they are basically the same. About the auto attack cancels, this coming from someone who used to train on this so I could hit high elo, cancelling 1 aa is basic nowadays yes. We are talking about cancelling 4 aas consecutively. Fiora had a very quick animation and you had to input clicks on enemies, skills and clicks beside enemies to cancel the animation of her skills in some cases as many as 8 or 9 separate clicks in a second to hit 5 attacks in a second. This would even today be a skill that is quite difficult as you can see by the only other champ that needs this very same skill being riven, and her skillset isn't exactly one recognized as easy to master. The skillfloor of old fiora was way lower though, you could do the yi and mash your keyboard a bit to get kills.

[@balhaddadinn]

Old Fiora had one AA reset (assuming that's what you meant cause I don't know what AA cancel is supposed to be). That was her E. Nothing else could reset the BAT.

[@verySharkey]

@@balhaddadinn Tiamat active, q 1, q 2, e

[@CCXZBlur]

Cryo really out here blessing us 2 rework videos in 2 days niceee

[@v1c341]

Why people miss the old Fiora when Master Yi exists? I don't play either of those champs, but the new Fiora really looks like a more unique and skill expressive champ to play, sure she have bullshit things like her %truedamage, but it's a number thing, they could change if they want. Sure, they killed the champion, but it's not like old Fiora was a good/unique one, people mad just look like fiora mains that don't have enough fingers to hit something unless it's AA.

[@alex_ho]

Guinsoo's proposed rework looks waaay more interesting than what Riot went with. Blade Waltz definitely should have been kept as her ultimate in some way, instead of this "hit 4 different angles and get a heal zone" thing.

[@thehentairevenant2309]

Blade wattz was too toxic to be keep, no kill expressiion and make her a assassin , not a duelist

[@alex_ho]

@@thehentairevenant2309 disagree, the difference between an assasin and a duelist isn't that large, both are meant to operate in 1v1 scenarios. The biggest difference is the burst, an Assasin would swoop in, deal a ton of burst, and get out with a kill. Blade Waltz could've also been done in a way where after Q, you are repositioned to the opposite end of your opponent from where you casted. Giving you additional mobility, is flashy, and tests your ability to judge whether or not it will land at the opponent's vital. In fact, it should probably award the player if you do land on a vital in some way. Maybe some additional dmg and movement? A single second of invulnerability? Refreshing the duration of your Waltz? Or maybe it spawns the next vital opposite the opponent so your next Q is a guarantee vital hit.

[@alex_ho]

@@thehentairevenant2309 but the true dmg thing should definitely be nerfed in some way

[@Adam0193Official]

I remember old fiora stacking 5 tiamats and berserker greaves, pressing R on someone in teamfights, and literally getting free pentas. Those were the days. Also I’d propose either Akali, Ryze (all 7+ of them) Evelynn, Rengar, Jax or Xin Zhao for the next pre-work video.

[@futsk01]

I'm a new Fiora player, never played or seen the old one. Onetricked her for a little over a year in seasons 8 and 9. The splash art had some serious Cruella vibes lol

[@Mike-iz6li]

hahah yes!

[@horlof1]

i remember me and my friends used to call Fiora the rich man's master yi

[@BoardingPilot]

I’d like to point out that they originally were going to give Fiora Mordekaiser’s ult, like throwing a glove or something to duel someone 1v1, but they didn’t like the idea.

[@cliffthepig4576]

I love how you do these videos, cryo!! Really gives me a better appreciation of old league. Really makes me wish they didn’t dump the old version of each character and instead made a League Classic from them. On another note, I really can’t wait for you to make a video on the Dr. Mundo rework! He’s my favorite champ in League!

[@halloeverybodhi613]

Jesus Not only were there two Raid ads before the video There's also a sponsor for Raid

[@owachan7608]

otp old Fiora with ignite/exhaust(pre-nerf) got me plat4 in 3 months after i first started playing lol in NA. im still here bc of this champion got me in.

[@TheHighborn]

Old Fiora.... That's something I haven't heard in a long time...

[@Kratosxtremo]

I was a one trick old fiora and um a one trick on New fiora,i love both,the parry,the vitals,the ult mini game, but god i miss Blade waltz

[@TheRealCryosDad]

The Raid promo was nice. It's great to see you are getting more noticed.

[@trap631]

Seeing these two versions of Fiora and I'm pretty sure that I prefer the new fiora hitting those vitals make my monkey brain very happy haha. Thoe I have to say that old fiora ult look so cool and wish they keep it :[

[@kindatim]

Honestly, I like the reworked Fiora more. She just seems much more interesting, mechanically, than she was.

[@Agent_Alpha_SLV]

i remember there was someone leaking that Fiora's reworked R were supposed to be like Mordekaiser current R, you choose an enemy and challenge them to a duel, don't know if i can find the post or was it from a trusty source

[@abnnizzy]

Now you hit me in the feels. I was main Fiora, mono Fiora back then. Now I don't have the will to play her. Her old splash art was divine, now she has a chin the size of Jay Leno's. Every now and then I google a way to play Season 4 League because of her.

[@TheSylveonSurfer]

Post rework Fiora is a million times better. Pre-rework such an unfun champ to play against with no counterplay if she got ahead with her point and click abilities. The only problem I really have with new Fiora is her ultimate. It's called the gramd challenge but doesn't really live up to the idea of forcing an opponent into dueling with you. I kinda wish she had some way of semi forcing you to engage with her like Camille or Mordekaiser. Something like Legion Commander in DOTA2.

[@KevinDonovan420]

I miss the old days. League isn’t feeling the same recently.

[@ladyilex]

She's French, no rework could ever save her

[@wildcard650]

It always felt good pressing that R key when you were getting dove

[@smokego123]

As a fiora main now I have to say I love her new kit EXCEPT the ultimate as I was wishing for something flashier - the increased skill ceiling really made me struggle with new fiora at first but she’s an absolute beast when you know how to use her

[@RealBigMitch]

loved the video man

[@Tywer]

Personally I loved the old Fiora ult, it and the remake Zac ult that scooped people were hands down my favorite abilities to ever use in a game. Were they too strong, probably. Did they suck to play against, without a doubt. But, nothing brought a huge smile to my face like these abilities could and I'm sad to see them gone even if it's for the "health of the game".

[@desquirtlegames]

Imagine the the old R from Fiora is Visible Master yi Q. 🤣

[@Jvstm]

I got diamond with old Fiora mid lane. She was my favourite champ in the game EVER. New Fiora is terrible, and frankly should have just been a separate champion instead of a rework.

[@jae7798]

getting W first and 105 AD at level 1 was lit

[@IYPITWL]

Best fiora I ever saw in ranked went mid and would disappear after the first wave and kill the jungler at their red. Playing those few games with her was awesome as a player that tried and failed to make Fiora work. if anyone has seen the anime Razephon, that is what old Fiora ult reminded me of

[@earljay9068]

I wish they'll make another champion with the same ult as the old fiora

[@walkelftexasranger]

Literally Master Yi's Q ._.

[@BabyMamaMaker]

Someone was trying to argue against me that Fiora was a late game champ before the rework. 😂

[@regulareric8759]

that was a beautiful transition

[@kaisercreb]

as an ex fiora main and former fencer they gutted her with the rework and she no longer felt like a fencer and i dropped playing her.

[@ThatDanmGuy]

How can you talk about old Fio and not discuss the Tiamat-stacking team-kill Rs? D:

[@Manzanoide_OG]

The thing with Fiora is that her design was made to interpret a fencer, skilled, inteligent desicion making, precise attacks, deflects and parries, and quick on their feet. Previous Fiora embodied this except for the skilled part. I mean, yeah sure, You could build against her more easily, but she did have a button "become untargetable for 3second and deal masive damage to the whole enemy team". That is not what a duelist should be. Fencing is a 1 on 1 sport/martial art, 1v2 at best. Still, new/actual Fiora is busted, and the only things she got to keep was the mobility and parry, and they weren't the main focus of the champion (ult).

[@kaanbeceni9041]

as you can see from pfp im pretty happy with the new fiora although i dont play league competitively anymore (tft player here)

[@MatiasDypala]

The old and lovely pentakill Tiamat fiora

[@DrTreason]

To be honest, I was missing old fiora for long time.. But damm Niliah plays damm close to her.

[@ennou1236]

Wow, for some reason I only remember the old splash, since when it has changed?

[@spilledcoffee8227]

When double Bloodthirst was the meta.

[@Arnitxe]

Dropped Fiora from my champ pool as well right after the rework. Riot started reworking champions making them more complicated and every rework is kinda scary for any champion in my champ pool. Hope they don't destroy another one as they did with 3 or 4 champs I used to enjoy.

[@vartolu3014]

I use to run full AD runes, W start & long sword purchase at level 1 to have a total of 120AD at level 1

[@Fimcro]

old fiora could stack tiamats for her ult... dont forget that ... 5x tiamat+ boots ... if the enemies just grouped a little to much one ult meant penta

[@CrRaZzyX]

Old league was such a vibe.

[@danielmcfarlan1035]

Before she was reworked i had a fiora tank my WHOLE TEAM, ALONE, purely off the lifesteal from ravenous hydra and bloodthirster, her only items along with boots Good fucking ridance i say

[@LiloWORLD]

Old Fiora was my main, LoL died for me after they killed her.

[@Mike-iz6li]

Mine too.

[@andychua2766]

Never touched old fiora. But current fiora is great no other champion has the same kind of feeling like popping all 4 vitals and a lot less frustrating fights against disgusting tanks. The approach they went for with emulating old fiora ult doesn't seem that bad using duelist dance and lunge to dance around enemies usually you can live and escape bad 1v2s by abusing vitals

[@Rob-ti3tj]

I miss Malenia, Blade of Miquella

[@cliffripburton]

before watching the video, I'll say, I abused this pre-rework and man, was it fun.

[@giroocoj9257]

the fact that riot cannot balance the champ with the same ult like jugg in dota and fully remake champ into another unstoppable champ is just ridiculous

[@dondon8385]

I played both version of Fiora. I would say the reworked one fits my playstyle.

[@Mike-iz6li]

Not mine. I want to hard go in fight. instead of poke and run.

[@skmkr5222]

Blade Waltz was the coolest ult in the game. I hate how they completely removed it. They managed to make Yi's Q somewhat balanced so they could have adjusted Balde Waltz instead of giving her that boring healing flower...

[@lopusmaximus3272]

ok guinsoo's rework actually sounds pretty good and, dare I say it, somewhat fair. Wish we would've gotten that one instead of the max% hp true damage monster

[@ultimocontrole9980]

Hot take, old fiora was more skillfull than new fiora

[@dartog4967]

No?

[@Don-mp6tv]

Based

[@yukitakaoni007]

old fiora: rune dmg +35 dmg, level up W level 1 +35 dmg, doran blade +10 dmg level 1 fiora: 115 dmg. Back in my old day...

[@LaycsTV]

FINALLYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!! BEEN WAITING FOR MY WIFE ♥

[@medabotsss1]

Misleading title most of the video focuses on fiora after the rework

[@realjeff]

I do respect Fiora players because the way league of legends are going and the amount of dash's and mobility. Feels like she's the true Fighter/Duelist.

[@Mike-iz6li]

Hey that is my icon :)

[@MattBG67]

I wish they kept the old R, I'd rather her ult me with that than her current ult, not to mention it looks more badass

[@MrThemastermixer1]

hope to see zac video, his old ult was too fun to play

[@lorzkotzros]

Old fiora r Was like Master yi q xD

[@ninjatoad89]

Old Fiora only needs Tiamat and her ULT!

[@Iisheell]

I was such a big fan of Fiora when I just got into league - in fact, I installed LoL for the first time when Fiora was released! Such a long time ago...I used to play her all the time, I loved the vibe, the looks, the spells, everything! New Fiora I don't like even after all these years. She feels alien and clunky, I don't really like the vitals part, the Q not so rarily lands weirdly etc...it doesn't fulfill my fantasy of Fiora.

[@sargeantschnutz5767]

The Q is easy to get a hang of so it ways hirs what you want. She's not clunky at all.

[@Mike-iz6li]

@@sargeantschnutz5767 Watch her walk animation and compare it to the old fiora walk animation. Q is just not fun to use. Stab run away , stab run away. I want the go in Double dash Q

[@KynteGuru]

same here. i literally stopped playing her at all when this rework dropped. fcking riot killed my Fiora.

[@rogue1996]

I Main Fiora after her rework but until now I'm still disappointed that all they did was do a VGU on her and nothing else No champ spotlight, Gameplay Teaser, New voice lines, Emotes, Recall Animation. Even though GP's got reworked before her which in fact receive a lot of hype. And then after Fiora's rework there's Poppy, Shen, Taric and the list of rework that receive some love and hype goes on. Unbelievable!

[@B9scrambler]

Let's see Yorick covered soon :D Ghoul boy ftw!

[@ehrman9478]

Caught me off guard with raid ad but i have insane reflexes and watched like second of it :P

[@Shyguyforest]

Hey Cryo cool video idea for you, I’ve been playing a lot of Gwen lately and have been doing grasp with night harvester. It’s a pretty fun build and just a fun way to play her, don’t gotta do it but just thought I’d give you an idea lol

[@tealeyesdragon2917]

Ok blade waltz looks so cool though. I kinda wish that was still in the game tbh. Maybe fixed in some way to be better but it’s a cooler version of Yi alpha strike

[@N12015]

I think this is another one of those very average-ish reworks, that offer an overall healthier gameplay experience but at a cost. Like with Poppy or Urgot, the bar was so low it was almost impossible to mess things up badly, and while they messed up things, the basic kit was still more or less the same just like with old Poppy, and a very well thought one. The old R could technically have remained but maybe it was bleeding their power budget.

[@xolotltolox7626]

>Max Health True Damage >Healthy

[@HI-kb2cg]

i like old fiora way more. Less broken then what she is now.

[@delta4135]

I would say that todays fioras problem is just her passive is overtune. Uppon hiting a vital she not only deals true % max health dmg but also heals herself and gets movment speed. Also her Q is getting half of its cd reseted after hitting *anything* and have max 360 dash range with 420 range of stabing. So she can stab someone from 780 range. I understand that she needs mobility to be able to use her ultimate well, but her passive is not her ultimate. When she cast her ultimate then procing her vitals could gave her ms buff but not on normal vitals. Healing on passive shouldnt exist, she has ult for it. What I mean by that is you don't need to be good or even avreage on fiora to be able to win many match-up just by picking her. Some people will say that it has to be like it bc she has great laning face but bad team-fights. But I often see fioras players being feed and becoming so full of themselves that they are trowing almost on purpose, byt trying to iniciate fight with her Q+W combo without backing while that fails. What happens next is that everyone know she doesn't has W so everyone go in and she is dead. No bc she is weak, but dumb. Imagine Akali using her W and after it expire enemy team just kill her bc she gets stun lock like fiora and dies. PS. Her first art was to promote Karen culture. But they don't have one so they changed it.

[@larsonsmith2792]

What about talking about the brusier changes Like the darius mini rework

[@AshBlossomWorshiper]

I never really cared for fio pre or post. Pre reqork She was one of those champs I strayed away from due to fear of what my friends would think of me if i picked her up. Post rework, i played one game and when I realized I couldnt just stand there and hit thing until they died like I could with a darius due to her being too squishy for that kind of playstyle back then if you didnt know when to w or successfully hit the hard to reach vitals, I stopped trying her until wild rift came around. There I learned just how insane she could be if you spaced her q's and built her a certain way. After doing the sunder, hull, DD thing for a while I learned how to correctly play her while mitigating any of my mistakes due to the stupid synergy those items had together pre item nerf. And she has sat comfortably as my goto for top

[@MattBG67]

You should make a vid on how cool old Swain was.. I felt like they removed all the flavor and cool things from him

[@Mike-iz6li]

Old swain was also a favor of mine, same with ryze. Ohh gosh that Desperation R. I miss that so much

[@robertjovicic7455]

She did 50% of my hp in true dmg whene i played taric top vs her.I had 400 armor.

[@UmbralWuju]

I say, let Riot August or CertainlyT rework her again