Fire-4-Effect Shadow 2 OR Review - The deep end of the CZ platform

[@brickcorrel8551]

Shooting my first USPSA match tomorrow. Your vids have helped me a ton in preparation!

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Let me know how it goes! It’s a great time

[@brickcorrel8551]

TheHumbleMarksman it went well! I’m happy enough with how I shot. My magazines kept falling free from my glock every stage though. Checked it out when I got home and theres no issues that I can identify. Anyone ever have this issue?

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

brick correl support hand likely contacting mag release - especially if it is extended or oversized

[@brickcorrel8551]

TheHumbleMarksman What I was thinking.. just never happened before! Must have got too excited and got too fast and loose lol

[@johnstinson7018]

The smoothness of the tasked asked of your viewers is so flawless in the video its almost worth watching just for that. Also I love anything you post about cz so great video.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Thank you sir!

[@graycattactical1614]

I can imagine how much work went into prototyping their optic mounting system. The end result is stellar. Big ups to Fire4effect.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

it's a really solid system - no doubt.

[@luisvictoria9802]

TheHumbleMarksman can you talk about if it was better/easier shooting with the red dot since it is positioned lower? This should be a clear advantage, no? I would think it would make it easier for new-to-red dot shooters. I think you completely missed talking about this obvious feature unless you believe that there is no difference in shooting with a high red dot vs a really low one. Thanks.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Luis Victoria I don’t think it’s a big advantage beyond very early in the process if you have no iron sights. The problem with the pocket this low is the adjustability on the dot is maxed out - they have since changed the angle of the cut to make it have more flexibility. I would argue a high dot with BUIS is easier than a low dot with no BUIS. The presentation angle is the same as iron sights- that’s not as big an advantage as you would think because most iron sight shooters don’t have solid indexes - they steer the sights in every time (that’s what I did I later learned).

[@JoJoHartt]

It's sad that Fire4Effect business closed down. You have a rare gem there!

[@wpymes]

90% invaluable contents, 10% unnecessary funny chat! Thumbs up anyway!

[@juancedillo02]

Fire-4-effect was local to me for a long time, really sad they shut down about a year or 2 ago

[@JoJoHartt]

It's sad for real 😢

[@fairweatherbull4908]

For the hammer down can't you start in the half cocked position which the Shadow 2 has. It lifts the hammer just off the pin yet you still have DA to start with

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

No - you aren’t allowed to in USPSA to start at half cock unless you have a decocker that puts it there. Shadows must start hammer all the way down

[@fairweatherbull4908]

@@TheHumbleMarksman Thx I have a FNX-45 that has the de-cocker and sure feel more comfortable doing it that way. I have not shot this new CZ yet, so yes it worries me a little.

[@ZChaosFactor]

@Thehumblemarksman because of you my shadow 2 is getting milled by fire4effect for a SRO, lok velocce grips on the way and i have a sprinco recoil reduction guide rod ( similar to the DPS setup) Definitely spent more than my yearly gun budget already and its only january. So thanks for that, who needs money anyway.

[@brandong8978]

How does this optic mounting system compare to a plate (e.g. Primary Machine)? Not sure which way to go.

[@garoristic]

What size moa trijicon

[@marksd5650]

You have THE most clever spiel, bar none, in the gun world. I wish you could put out twice the content. I have NO problem spending big money for great guns (read I buy Nighthawks and CZs and so on) because great guns are excellent to shoot. Saving for an Atlas…some day. Thanks. Best Regards

[@theaudiocrat]

This video is relevant. I find it interesting, and KZbin should reccomend it to more people!

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

A master class on KZbin commenting right here lads

[@schneir5]

I just put a black and blue Shadow 2 on layaway yesterday! I had an urban gray one about three years ago and I did steel target matches with it and actually did well, and I was planning on doing practical pistol with it but then I let this succubus into my life and she basically took my old Shadow 2 and I miss it so much so I'm really excited to get a new one and I definitely hope I don't meet another succubus lol

[@onpsxmember]

Fire-4-Effect, the afterburn of the 5-Alarm-Chili? Thx for going into detail.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

There's so much more I could have done with the name but they are doing cool stuff!

[@onpsxmember]

@@TheHumbleMarksman I'll check out their site.

[@TheSuburban15]

Fortunately, I already had a 9mm throat reamer. Wasn't about to load ammo specifically for the CZ, and cut the leade so everything fits. It still shoots amazingly well.

[@AndrewWisler]

_Suburban_ I did the same thing with my 9mm Tanfo barrel - easy job, did not affect accuracy, and now I can load 147 RN coated lead bullets.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

yeah reaming a CZ is a good idea IMO.

[@czarmorer]

I'm with you on the recoil effect (and I do shoot a S2). I always hear people referring to the fact that more non-reciprocating mass "reduces" recoil. And it's funny because if you try to debate about it they will invoke "physics" as to what justifies what they are saying. Well, how ironically it is that it's exactly because of physics that what they are saying isn't entirely true. If we call "recoil effect" what you need to fully recover from between the moment you pull the trigger and when you're fully ready to pull it again (accurately), then the same mass which is your friend to reduce the perceived recoil in the first stage, becomes your enemy when you're fighting the inertia after the gun has completely cycled.... It would be only completely true that the non-reciprocating mass will help you with recoil, if that mass was to truly not move at all... which unless you have Hulk's grip strength, it will not happen :) I hear the same misconception about recoil springs too.

[@AndrewWisler]

Marcelo Fartura I think of it not so much in terms of absolute recoil, but how quickly the slide cycles, and especially how consistently it returns to POA with you particular grip. I find tuning the recoil spring is the most important factor. I audition a couple different weight springs and watch how the gun recoils in slo mo, and also how it feels. But I’m kind of a dork.

[@czarmorer]

@@AndrewWisler Yes, the recoil spring weight will determine how quickly the gun cycles completely. The heavier the weight the faster the gun will cycle, but the harder the slide will hit the front and therefore the deeper the nose dive will be, which will cost you time to stabilize and be ready to shoot again on target. A weaker/lighter spring will make the slide open faster, and close slower - the total cycling time here is longer, but you have less nose dive and therefore spend less time stabilizing to shoot again... Recoil springs also have to be calibrated to the load you're using, in order to maintain reliability of the cycling operation - Too heavy/too light of a spring for a certain load and you can have all sorts of trouble from extracting/ejecting to going back to battery...

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Finally getting around to the comments on this and you did not disappoint sir. I'm going to do a video on talking about recoil in pistols and how it relates to heavy guns - I may need to collaborate with you on that. You understand this on a level most don't. Most of the common KZbinr's understanding is "Heavy gun means less recoil" - yeah no.

[@czarmorer]

@@TheHumbleMarksman I will be glad to help!

[@ikefleetwood4053]

I agree, I found my muzzle dipping hard when returning to battery after the shot due to heavy recoil spring. I opt for a light recoil spring with means the recoil impulse is stronger (rearward) but more controllable to reset for the next shot. this is nearly impossible to detect without slow motion video from a friend helping you. it actually feels softer shooting with heavier/stock springs. as for reliability, light spring doesn't affect ejection but it will affect loading a round out of the mag. I've gone too low to the point the slide drags pretty bad picking up around. probably go 1 weight more than that.

[@cpt.gwyndolin8665]

King. Will you do a video on the center axis relock system of cqb shooting one day?

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Give me to the end of the competitive season to start looking at it - I don't want to cross pollinate with nationals on the horizon.

[@cpt.gwyndolin8665]

@@TheHumbleMarksman Thank you! Ive always wanted someone with a scientific and thorough approach to approach this unique way of shooting. These two short videos should peak your interest. This one at just under a minute show's how good you can control recoil with CAR(kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5C1po2NqKuUosk) and this one at 6 minutes is where he explains how he came up with the car system.(kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIW6dKRql5uJf5o)

[@alfredocuomo1546]

So have you ever tried the new titanium guild rod for even further weight reduction & if you what are your thoughts on it?

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I haven’t

[@ben10madrid]

Totally great video! Really funny.

[@stevailo]

If anyone has tried it, would you recommend the Apex trigger kit for the CZ Shadow 2?

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I have tried it - I think I like the Cajun version better. I installed it on Big Johnson Guns & Gear.

[@stevailo]

TheHumbleMarksman I saw his video so I asked you. Unfortunately CZ custom and Cajun don’t sell in Italy, so my only option is Apex, The right question would have been “is the Apex trigger kit really worth the money over a polished factory trigger?” Btw thanks a lot for all the answers, I just bought a used shadow 2 and your videos with your answers to my comments are really helping a lot. Really a great channel.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

@@stevailo So what it offers that polishing wont is a firmer wall - if you like to trigger prep - and you should - then the wall is superior to a polished OEM set up.

[@stevailo]

TheHumbleMarksman yep, I love to prep the trigger and I love a clean and crisp wall than break, even if it means a slightly heavier pull. Thanks a lot, I definitely consider getting a kit!

[@Kodreanu23]

I would so like to see you trying out Alpha Rex gun.

[@gravelmankey3065]

Why you dont used that in nationals?

[@prazcuray1388]

That’s a gorgeous gun, dude I love your advice and critiques plus your entertaining

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Thanks man. Thanks for watching!

[@2011wrxswp]

I thought I was going to be an angry cat pounding on the keyboard after watching... but this review was well done, glad you tried a carry optics shadow 2! 👏

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

me too - it's an wesome gun.

[@truthjunkie9218]

That color is brilliant, the cuts are awesome, but the hexagons plastered down the entire side have to go. Great job on the vid.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Thanks man! I think it looks a bit better in person - a little more subtle than the video shows it to be.

[@bfish9700]

Part of the reason I went back to glock(ish): took a cz apart to try to do a trigger job. NEVER AGAIN! I used to totally lust after the shadow 2 and I do love a crisp single action but Glocks are the king of the aftermarket and cheap mags.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

yeah working on CZ's is a touch maddening to be sure.

[@TheSuburban15]

Don't drop the firing pin block lifter spring, or let it out of your sight. It will disappear the moment you let your guard drop.

[@czarmorer]

what you're talking about? Of course nothing is as simple as a glock - but CZs are actually fairly simple to work with.

[@jbar2.048]

@@czarmorerI agree with you mostly, the trigger return spring is kind of a pain. If I have a decent workspace, and I don't need to complete the task quickly, working on a cz is not that bad. I'm not very handy, so it may be easier for some-- everything is relative. I have spent a decent amount of time looking for springs on my kitchen floor lol.

[@czarmorer]

@@jbar2.048 haha, haven't we all? :) I bet even the experienced gunsmiths out there have spent their share of time looking for springs, small pins, set screws and other small parts that insist and run away from our eyes!

[@johngordon2929]

Can i use that exaggerated beaver tail to open beer bottles?

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Why not shoot the bottle caps off?

[@TUCOtheratt]

If looks increased Hit Factor I'd buy one. Just buy a Sig 320 Legion.

[@InSightFreedom]

You need one of those fast talking lawyers for the disclaimer portion 😂👍🏻

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I am going to start speeding it up for the censor. They flag all videos of dot guns as “features modified guns” otherwise

[@InSightFreedom]

@@TheHumbleMarksman it really is beyond absurd.

[@setunedouche]

The micro machines guy!!! LOL. Another high quality grand slam of a video brother!!!!

[@deanstauffer787]

Dude, can I just say that you're awesome. I really love your videos, especially when there's a Shadow 2 in them. Sincerely, Steely Eyed Missile Man

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I appreciate the support lol.

[@formerpilgrim4934]

Pretty slick review

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Thank you sir!

[@M1911jln]

Now that CZ has released the Shadow 2 OR, does this custom gun really make much sense? Why not get the OR for $1000 less?

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

So the out of the box gun is still going to need between $50 and $250 in parts to "optimize" it - plus $80 grips because the stock CZ grips are terribad. So drawing parity on those items it's still a big number but "like for like" not quite so severe. I think the window cuts and serrations do make the gun handle better than a stock shadow - personally. I personally think a stock shadow has pretty good trigger - made very good with $50 in parts. The bushing does tighten down accuracy to a pretty ridiculous level. It's all diminishing returns and were you fall on the curve. There's not a huge difference between them - but there is a difference. Biggest advantage of OR is you could shoot it as an irons gun if you wanted - but the F4E cut does make the dot ridiculously low.

[@M1911jln]

I put some springs in my Shadow 2 that brought the DA trigger to 6lbs and the SA trigger to around 2 lbs. I can’t remember the cost for the springs, but it wasn’t much. I agree with you on the stock grips. I replaced mine with some LOK grips that a local competitor was selling for cheap. I suppose greater accuracy is useful (more useful in the hands of someone more skilled than I), but it does seem to be a matter of diminishing returns.

[@ikefleetwood4053]

the availability of the OR CZ model is compelling. but note it does not include an optic or any mounting plates you need, or a trigger job. in this case the listed price includes literally every possible Cajun Gunworks mod, including barrel bushing, and a SRO optic. on top of color finish, etc. if you all all that aftermarket up, a CZ OR model would probably be equal if not more money. SRO is 500-550, Cajun kit is 350-400, that's your 1000 right there. not counting grips, custom finish, etc.

[@theunisbotha6641]

Whenever I search a pistol and see a humblemarksman review I make sure to watch it👍🏼

[@HobbyProblems]

new favorite CZ.

[@spingarn]

Thirteen SCCYs is a lot for that gun. The Rodeo only costs eight.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

it is a lot of money. To be fair - the rodeo with the optic costs ten.

[@ikefleetwood4053]

Also note the cost includes a $525-550 Optic from factory. Most market offerings do not, nor does the LTT. Theres options to omit the optic and cancel that cost.

[@spingarn]

@@ikefleetwood4053 Gotcha. So the real difference in price is three SCCYs

[@thebrassbrigade5963]

I guess the Atlas I just ordered would be 26 SCCYs... lol

[@trevorbraden5448]

Man that is a beautiful beast

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

it's certainly not bad.

[@BigJohnsonGG]

They are nice for sure! Carry on

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

That they are sir! Enjoy yours! We need to get to the range so you can shoot the LTT.

[@linkchen8245]

This one is really nice ahaha, but does it justify the price ? What do you think of the shadow 2 Darkside? I found Eric Graffeal is shooting for CZ now last week LOLLOL

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

They're nice guns for sure.

[@chrisnanney1095]

Just added an optic to my Shadow 2 for CO division and so far it's great. But, it just seems that Glocks are easier and cheaper to deal with overall. I may add a dot to my G17 and shoot it for comparison.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

They're not wildly different experiences. On medium/long range shots the hammer guns that are heavier have advantage - and that's about it.

[@justsomerandomguyman]

@@TheHumbleMarksman Would like to see a steel frame or tungsten-infused polymer frame for the Zev OZ9 platform. If it had the same weight as the P320 XFive Legion, I think it would be better than it overall. There are already very good Glock triggers available (Johnny Glocks, Tactical Trigger, etc.)

[@acorea44]

Ooooh - fancy wiz bang gun... 😍❤

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Extra fancy and extra whiz bang.

[@KOAnonymously]

Beautiful Gun!!!!!

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I agree! i'd probably go a different direction with the grips though.

[@jamesmanning8795]

I just love polymer guns because of their reliability man...maybe after I make M in Carry Optics i'll invest in a more expensive platform...I'll stick with my CZ P10-F for now

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

There's not a compelling reason to switch if it's working for you. The heavier guns provide a little more advantage at medium / long distances with better triggers and a frame that's easier to stabilize when aiming.

[@CZFanGrrl]

Wow David, you ARE a bit of a malcontent at the beginning. LOL. Firstly a sweet paint job is not going to make any difference in the performance of a competition pistol, but taking a stock Optic Ready Shadow 2 (not a milled for an Optic Shadow 2 - yes, there is a difference between the two) and spending a couple hours with some micro grit polishing papers and polishing the critical internal contact points and changing out a few springs is going to make a world of difference. I swapped out the stock slide release control for a low profile or flat slide release, as do many other competition shooters, which allows you to get your grip up higher. Anyways, good video! I liked it and it didn’t give me any cause to unsubscribe. LOL! PS. Anyone that can’t swap out a trigger return spring at the range is a lemon.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

oh I can swap out a TRS at the range - but it's BS to have to. In fact I did do it at Area 6 Championship in 2017 for someone else's gun. On friday I'm comparing this one to my LTT - that should be right up your alley!

[@SPECIESUNKN0WN]

I’m from the future and that $2600 is now $3400.

[@chilidem]

That's a beautiful gun.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

it absolutely is.

[@Locke99GS]

To anyone that doesn't know any better, changing the trigger return spring on CZ's *can* be a pain in the ass, if you make it hard. I've done several, can do start to finish in about a minute. My buddies can also do in similar time. If you find that it's difficult, stop, and try some different method. The trick is, after getting the tangs lined up, just press the spring coil down until you can slip the trigger pin in. That's it.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

You clearly have a method for it that I never discovered when I was a CZ shooter.

[@ZChaosFactor]

Eemann tech makes a brass tool just for the trigger return spring. Makes the process a breeze, but otherwise its a pain no doubt.

[@czechtactical8388]

I live in CZ and have a couple of Shadow 2 ORs. I think the gun you reviewed is probably better- we don’t get the options of slide cuts and the ORs optic plate is sort of crap (on a par with Glock mos). Dreaming CZ will offer the OR in an Orange S2- the attention to detail may be better than normal crap CZ fit and finish.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

That's interesting to hear you say that - I was planning on purchasing an S2 OR for review early next year - maybe I'll go a different direction.

[@czechtactical8388]

In fairness I have not had issues with my ORs ( only 5k rounds through so far) but a friend with over 45k rounds through has been through an extractor and had POI shift from the SRO - firstly due to SRO windage walking (nail varnish fix) and then through SRO to base screws not holding and base to slide screws not holding - fix was to enlarge screws to 4mm and bond base also. The S2 is overall a great design and the factory slide is machined better than the original Shadows. Frames are still cosmetically imperfect and should be finished better, it bugs me but may not others. By going to a 9lbs recoil spring the slide auto forwards on a mag change - which can be useful. Think that I just have Primary Machine slide envy.

[@rickc9111]

Step. 1... purchase 'Bull' Shadow 2 with RDS Optic Cut to get that non-reciprocating mass more in line with where it needs to be. Step. 2... cajunize that trigger. Step. 3... save a few $ in the process and enjoy superior shooting blaster.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

why would you cajunize a CZC gun? CZC guns are fantastic.

[@rickc9111]

@@TheHumbleMarksman Because cajun trigger is just a smidge better in my (and a few others) experience. In fact, Fire 4 Effect uses cajun pro pkg for their trigger mods as well.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

@@rickc9111 I am aware - the difference is really the wall on the SA and the hammer shape. That's really it. If you want a lighter trigger but are OK with a more rolling break then CZC is your huckleberry.

[@rickc9111]

TheHumbleMarksman Agreed. Both are good triggers and we’re splitting hairs a bit, given that we are discussing double action triggers.

[@ossantheshooter]

That "Stín dva" on the slide! Nice :-D

[@AndrewWisler]

Haha, I had to laugh about the takedown. Ok, I shoot Tanfo, but I actually find it easier than the Glock system. Maybe the takedown pin is a little stiffer on the CZ? I can push mine out without employing a tool.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

None of my CZs could I push out with my fingers without a decent bit of pain. I usually use the edge of a table or a magazine.

[@lazerrred]

@TheHumbleMarksman, A small file (tri corner is best) to angle and take a tiny bit of material out of the notch in the TD lever that catches the spring and you can pull the TD lever out with a push or a pull. Very easy. 👍

[@AndrewWisler]

Or just buy the Tanfo and spend the extra $600 on ammo ;-). Lol.

[@RyanZNO]

The wiggle in the chassis must be because of the customization. I just purchased a Shadow 2 orange and it’s absolutely rock solid, no wiggle or shift in anything.

[@LIONTAMER3D]

that's a monster blaster!

[@mr_mel]

It legit gets no better than F4E milling + CGW internals. I’m just getting thru the intro so far, but I’d be very surprised if u continue to chose the LTT RDO over this S2 (if this is your gun)

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

It's not my gun - I'm doing a comparison video - probably next week - but spoiler - I prefer the LTT over the S2 F4E (slightly). If the 92 could have a magwell or a slightly longer grip length it wouldn't be close. I like the SA trigger of the 92 better - it's easier to prep in recoil.

[@mr_mel]

The gun does hit harder in the hand. Totally agree with that.

[@jerryjohnsonii4181]

All i can say about this CZ Shadow 2 , Awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

they're awesome.

[@vonherebroadsword3263]

I know they do this for the SP01's as well. I really want it done.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

It's a pretty cool package.

[@fairweatherbull4908]

What do you use for the competition belt and holster for this gun. I just bought my first Shadow 2 Blue Optic Ready and I am waiting on the Optic mount from C&H Precision Weapons which was recommended by CZ since they are so backordered

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I use the Guga Ribas NEO GR - goshoot.com sells them - it fits literally any gun that doesn’t have a frame mount optic or obnoxious thumb rest

[@brightideas5782]

You should have done this video with a crown 🤴🏽😂😂😂 on your head !,,,😂😂😂 the Gun God King lol 😂I’m a big fan of!,,!

[@speedrrracer]

Biggest plus: tactical rail on which to mount ab straps for honing the 8-pack between 100% stage times oh, wait, wrong video, sorry

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

that's exactly how my matches run. Paste targets and get in my ab work.

[@Matt.Hemple]

I think fire for effect too to much weight out of the slides imo for the new rules. they dont shoot as flat

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I like the way they handle - but in fairness I've only ever shot the weight relieved ones.

[@justsomerandomguyman]

Less reciprocating mass should mean less muzzle rise.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Depends where the weight is located relative to your fulcrum

[@Matt.Hemple]

@@justsomerandomguyman I have plenty of rounds on both

[@justsomerandomguyman]

@@Matt.Hemple Ok, but it still comes down to opinion, and people perceive things very differently. Some people think the faster, snappier cycling is too violent, and others prefer it, because they can get back on target faster. The windows in the slide are quite small still compared to the slide cuts you see on aftermarket Glock slides. They didn't really lighten it that much.

[@jameshealy4594]

What a ripoff pistol, why would anyone spend that much when for the same price you could have 30-70% of a nighthawk, SMH. ;D

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Lol nice

[@jknifeguy3043]

Nothing better than hearing the guys on Instagram who convert these to SAO's get absolutely roasted. 😂

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

they are my sworn enemy.

[@jknifeguy3043]

@@TheHumbleMarksman the hero we needed

[@Baldcurious]

Nope , sticking to X5 legion , until Grand Power finally gets Xcalibur CO match in Us

[@Baldcurious]

@Libertas I did , drooled all over it at 2020 Shotshow. Almost pre-ordered one. Now I'm glad I didn't, God knows when those will be here

[@Baldcurious]

@Libertas it was 2500 down payment amd another 2500 once it's here. Didn't really make much sense from competiti ok n standpoint. You can't use it in CO , so you stuck in open or limited minor which didn't make whole lot of sense , sice you competing against 2011s

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I would love to shoot an XCal OR. Let me know if you hear of them bringing it here.

[@Baldcurious]

@Libertas teah, until they get it on production list , it's pretty much just Limited Minor gun. With numbers they are bringing in , God knows when will that happen

[@justsomerandomguyman]

Good review. Surprised it has more muzzle climb than the Glock 34. Would be cool to see you review an A01-LD.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I'd sure like to review an A01 LD.

[@stephenkarl1440]

You could potentially buy a case of Sccy, yes...a case for the price of this whiz bang gun

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

whoa a CASE of SCCYs... now you have me thinking.

[@ronclements2002]

My shadow 2 does the same thing my Springfield 1911 is twice as smooth but still a great oistol

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Springfields are production 1911s - semi customs or customs don’t have the wiggle - Les Baer, Dan Wesson and other higher end builders

[@ronclements2002]

I meant that my shadow 2 has the same spot that isn’t smooth. I was a USPCA shooter and I was just explaining the price of the platform for the baby smooth action. My limcat is as custom as you get ask JJ’s uncle he built it. Thanks for the reply appreciate your information and honest opinions. Keep up the good work. I miss shooting so bad but I’m unfortunately living my life through shooters like yourself. Having my back fused in a week

[@twrol]

X=12(Sccy)

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Now solve for SCCY CPX2RD!

[@user-pv9pv4xf9c]

You're becoming Denim Daddy with the black background and jokes that only shooters would get. Dang you broke 20K subs.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

yeah if you did your job I'd have over 30k. WTF man.

[@ckim6400]

Ummmm OK! Please don't Review a CZ Custom SP 01 Bull Shadow! Thank You!

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I tried to get an AO1 LD from them on a T&E program and they ghosted me :(. I'll try again though!

[@slamfire5382]

I have one, still don't know if I want to keep it

[@ckim6400]

@@TheHumbleMarksman AO1 LD is a rare pistol to see in the Wild. CZ Custom sometimes keeps one in their showcase. If ordered they truly build it when they get the order I'm not sure if they ship the one in their case and build another, many times online they show it Out of stock, so I'm guessing if they have it, it gets shipped and they start another. I've only see 2 one at my Gun Club and one at CZ Custom. When I bought my SP 01 Bull Shadow I got it out of their case then it showed Out of Stock for a few weeks.

[@mistaperfekt]

cz makes beautiful gats

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

that they do.

[@toku58]

You are aware that this is NOT an optic ready gun. It’s a gun you made optics capable.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

That’s why the title calls it a fire 4 effect gun- if you watched this video and thought I thought it was the CZUB S2OR I don’t know what to tell you- it’s pretty clear it’s F4E

[@mandodelorian4668]

It's kind of funny that a 2.5 lb trigger is light, but a Two-and-a-Half Pound gun is heavy. One finger vs your whole hand, heck 2 hands even. But, I get it. All that aside, will we get a comparison or a "my pick" comparison or thoughts video on this vs the Beretta? Which one do you enjoy more when you're doing some nice relaxing competition shooting?!

[@ikefleetwood4053]

@Mando sub 2 pounds is certainly possible for tuned up S2s, hand polishing smith work etc, or a heckofva lot of rounds/break in. Thats a question of how much more time a user wants to put in at home on the bench vs just shooting. A lot of ounces pull can go to the smith that day - Monday versus friday gun. The reduced reach, cleaner break, less takeup and creep, all better than stock due to the aftermarket internals. 4.5/4.75 DA pull is insane tho.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Yes - there is a comparison video coming between this and the LTT.

[@roflchopter11]

2:13 arrive at *my* door, you say?

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

*door of your FFL.

[@roflchopter11]

@@TheHumbleMarksman haha, I know

[@proudlyamerican2764]

Scorpions fan?

[@jormen23]

Hellooooooooou that´s a lat of moneeey! LOL!, very entertaining video.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

In Living Color was a great show

[@magicdinsmore3107]

I'd appendix carry that. Just sayin'

[@youbetyababy]

I hope you learned something about making hipster prophesies about cz becoming extinct in completion circles.

[@youbetyababy]

"Competition" circles.

[@DavidLee-qe8fq]

Although muzzle rise is a part of recoil, it is not the "total recoil" of the gun. Therefore you can not say that a heavier gun doesn't always recoil less, because it will always recoil less providing that you're using the same ammos. There are 3 things in a recoil: momentum(MV), impulse(FT), and energy(1/2MV^2). No matter what kind of gun that you are shooting, the momentum and impulse will always be equal among the guns that you're shooting, providing that you're using the same ammos. But the heavier guns will always have less recoil energy. The felt recoil is mostly recoil energy and impulse. Same numerical value of the impulses may felt differently depending on the duration of recoil. If a gun had more muzzle rise but it recovered sooner, then you may say it has less recoil. Again, if a gun had less of muzzle rise but it had sharper kick to the back, then you can say it has more recoil. Let me give you something to think about, a lower bore axis in a semi-auto pistol doesn't always means less muzzle rise, because the bore-axis and the axis of a recoil vector is not the same in most of the cases. However in case of the revolvers, they are the one and the same. Most of the shooters doesn't realize this fact.

[@TheDukeOfSaudi]

There you go a like and a subscribe

[@RevGunn-jq3cq]

LMAO! Using as Sccy as a unit of financial measurement, pure Genius!!

[@jbar2.048]

That's a lot of sccys

[@DL33TT]

Them hipsters are bringing back fanny packs. Is that who you want teaching you defensive gun skills? I think not. LoL (czp10 inside)

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Fanny packs are awful in most contexts.

[@billycrna]

I about pissed myself with that edited in Chris Rock clip!!!!😂😂😂

[@tannedtexan_3299]

El Paso!!!

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

yessir!

[@HOUSCOUS]

WOW, I thought my Primary Machine Built was expensive.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Now it includes grips, an optic, and a full cajun kit in that price - it's an expensive slide package to have done - but a slick finish like that isn't cheap either.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Practical Pistol Proficiency (PPP)

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

absolutely.

[@MyMd1111]

Have you tried one of these www.phx.swiss/index.php?id=101

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I haven't seen one in person yet - at $3600 for a shadow 2 clone it's a tough pill to swallow. Looks gorgeous but I'd have a hard time making a video on a $3600 without the MFG sending it on T&E.

[@MyMd1111]

TheHumbleMarksman had the chance to shoot one of their less pricey models last week and being a shitty shooter it was black magic for me how tight my groups were.

[@Shadowdancer777]

Better off with a beretta.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I enjoy my berettas for sure

[@sd3rs184]

Alot of money to make a bullet go down field. Atleast my pocket!

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

yeah - they're not cheap that's for sure.

[@sd3rs184]

@@TheHumbleMarksman Beautiful gun ,but then again I don't know much about this gun.

[@HUGEGUY405]

I swear this channel was designed to get everyone divorced! Need Mo Money!

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

Just make rich friends then borrow guns - it's what I do!

[@sd3rs184]

I heard that! I'm having issues spending 1000 for one . She's still telling me no,unless I buy her something of course. Lol. I am talking about my wife!

[@AGC828]

You can get this gun in black btw. :) We don't need this mirror-peach finish. :) A gun only the comedian "Carrot-top" would have. :)

[@peteraugust5295]

So basically they take a CZ Shadow 2, mill on it for an hour, put a orange cerakote on it and then sell ist for 2.5 times the inital price? Well played.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

That includes grips and a $500 optic and a 300 action job

[@peteraugust5295]

@@TheHumbleMarksman Ok, did not think about the optic. But still, That price is crazy. even with the optiv for 500 Dollars that would mean that there is 1000 Dollars+ of work in that gun, which I cant see.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

A PVD frame and slide with a custom pattern is $250, the milking package is like $400 grips are $75 - just the parts for the trigger job are like$250. $500 optic. It’s all there. You can disagree on the milling price but it’s way more extensive than a basic optic job.

[@ikefleetwood4053]

Another thing to consider is many people do all this work anyways, but from different suppliers with shipping charges, different wait times etc. if you parted all this out, same spec, and home brewed it shipping costs etc would eat you alive. Theres hidden benefits to 1 package from one shop.

[@Matt-xy6cf]

Go into blip drive mode when competing .