Fire Alarms System Carbon Monoxide Alarms Wont Stop Going off on Fire Drill

[@elsiebonilla7445]

I love you Nick your videos help me out a lot as a technician in Boston

[@MatterRBX]

Hey Nic! The drill command on Fire-Lite panels initiates a full evacuation of the building using all methods. Which includes using every NAC REGARDLESS of your cause-and-effect rules. You can however configure this in the menu or FS-Tools if your panel supports it. That's about the most I know with Fire-Lite; I'm more of a Notifier person: however, I hope this can help in your endeavors. Hope this gave you some insight!

[@achannelwithnopurpose1977]

Programmed two firelite es-50x systems with fs-tools at work today. Did everything from programming points to zone correlations and cellular dialer info.

[@emerald5567]

here's an idea: take a hammer to the control panel, so you don't have to deal with that crap

[@prism_2903]

😭

[@REELLiveLifeGaming]

Smart

[@joeycaridi3030]

He will be getting rid of it possibly in the future and tie that SLC circuit from the Fire-Lite MS-9200UDLS into the Notifier NFS-320C using a box in the garage with the wiring spliced through

[@ParentsAssociationParentsAssoc]

If you smash it up and sounding it Will still be sounding

[@emerald5567]

@ParentsAssociationParentsAssoc if you smash it up you can't even press any buttons

[@VoidsDemise5443]

8:21 LMAO Nic...this is why ur funny lol

[@starlite528]

From the manual: 4.1.3 Drill/Hold 2 Sec When the Drill key is held for a minimum of two seconds (time required to prevent accidental acti- vations), the FACP turns on all main panel NAC outputs and all silenceable circuits such as control modules that are programmed as silenceable, and turns off the Alarm Silenced LED if it was previ- ously on. The EVAC IN SYSTEM message is shown on the LCD display. The same message is sent to the printer and history file. The Alarm Silence key can be used to turn off all silenceable NAC outputs following activation by the Drill key.

[@starlite528]

If I read that correctly, set your CO NAC module as non-silenceable and the same for the door holder module.

[@keiron2630]

I would check for any firmware updates that option may be available on different firmware

[@FI-TECH-250]

Hmm... Thats weird... german panel also have that fuction where it only activates the pa system lol! You should get one for your colection! I reccomend one from esser. But anyways, cool vid as always nic! Keep it up :)

[@nolanbhanchand4744]

The “Now I’m pissed off” is so funny

[@All_ConsumingBandu]

When FireAlarmDude5967 tests his carbon monoxide detector, his does a tone saying: "WARNING CARBON MONOXIDE!!! PLEASE EVACUATE THE BUILDING!!!" Apparently here we just have clicking and peizo. I think a voice would be cool but is there a reason why you don't have that?

[@nics-systems-electric]

This is a real protection system so I'd need everything to be supervised and proper components. Those are extremely expensive especially for me living in Canada where parts are limited and more expensive.

[@JBLSpacerTests]

@@nics-systems-electrici love your vids

[@Alarmo05221]

Firealarmdude5967 uses a mp3 player playing the CO Message from a ELK 110V5. MP3 players are not used in real applications. Voice evac systems usually play tones during COs, not standard systems

[@ajsmusic723]

​@@nics-systems-electric its probly inproper zone or a incorrect device type

[@DanTDMJace]

@@Alarmo05221Nic wants it up to code. That is not up to code

[@andrewhere1113]

7:57 you can just push reset to close every single thing at once

[@twentyfour44]

I mean you could use the software to program correlations of the activated device to only activate the NAC you need but it is hard with the drill button in general. I personally have never touched Fire-Lite or the software so idk if you can edit the correlation of the drill button or not. just throwing it out there is all.

[@VladK7807]

Try installing a control module which will disconnect co strobe circuit from your system during the drill. This may apply also to generator shutdown, damper closing, house alarm tie-in and etc.

[@eDoc2020]

If you do that then the CO strobe won't activate even if CO is detected during evac mode.

[@Firebash9]

You should add a carbon monoxide alarm and detectors in the house if you don’t have it already

[@stillthakoolest]

Why? He has no gas appliances

[@retrostudio5600]

@@stillthakoolest Furnace: You forgot me.

[@stillthakoolest]

@@retrostudio5600 it is an electric furnace if you watched any of his other videos.

[@Firebash9]

@@stillthakoolest I think they have a fire place and it’s still safer

[@retrostudio5600]

@@stillthakoolest To determine whether your unit is run on gas or electric is easy. Look at the unit near the base of it. If there is a steel pipe going to it then it is gas. If there are no pipes then it is most likely electric.

[@Fire-Lite457]

You will need to set the control module for the CO strobes as non silenceable. Drill will activate all control and relay modules set as silenceable.

[@nics-systems-electric]

But then you can't silence it? Firelite seems goofy!

[@Fire-Lite457]

@ Yeah, unfortunately that’s the way it is. I learned all this from my MS-9600UDLS panel. With Notifier, you can do custom drill but you need Verifire Tools to do it.

[@REELLiveLifeGaming]

@@nics-systems-electriccan you set notifier to not activate on drill? If so can you link the two systems together? Or just by a new panel…

[@Some-dude1-u3q]

@@REELLiveLifeGaming A new panel would be very expensive and take a LONG time to rewire and reprogram it.

[@gamingmore6649]

Notifer last video: TIME TO MESS UP -casually messes up- Firelite: Ima be nice so i can try to get him to keep me

[@braelinmichelus]

I know that some Firelite panels have a 'hazard alert' zone that would be perfectly suitable to this use case. I wonder why the 9200UDLS does not. I think the panel I saw with it was a 9060UD, or perhaps it was the Notifier FireWarden version?

[@waylonhartwell]

I'm not exactly sure but wouldn't a drill be considered? Also a carbon monoxide event to practice for and maybe they they are running it all into the same alarm sequence. So maybe there's a way to program different drills into the drill button?

[@scottyTy]

I was wondering, when an alarm happens does, where does it dial into?. Does it go to a 911 dispatch center of some alarm monitoring company who would then notify fire dispatch. Also if the connection drops and the business or school is closed then basically they are screwed and hopefully someone sees the fire or smoke and then calls 911. Many moons ago a fire alarm went off in an apartment high rise security muted the alarm instead of the firefighters who responded. The fire chief was extremely mad they muted the alarm before they arrived. Your videos are fantastic especially when you test alarm systems.

[@nics-systems-electric]

I self monitor my system

[@rainbuu6854]

you see turning the relay to HVAC shutoff instantly removes all carbon monoxide in the area

[@JacksonRogneby]

8:39 you should’ve added another smoke detector to cover the HVAC shut down

[@jsisk]

It looks like the Drill function only turns on NACs and control modules which are set as silenceable. I was curious enough that I pulled up the manual and I found this: "When the Drill key is held for two seconds (time required to prevent accidental activations), the MS-9200 turns on both main panel NAC outputs and all silenceable circuits (all control modules/NACs that are programmed silenceable) and turns off the Alarm Silence LED."

[@davaniadk9200]

so maybe it should be set as non silenceable?

[@jsisk]

That would be my assumption. In the manual for the 9600 there is a specific note that the drill function will not activate non-silenceable outputs. So I would guess based on the way the statement is written in the 9200 manual that setting that module to non-silenceable would have the same effect.

[@nics-systems-electric]

Another commentator has said that as well that would be something I would have to try however couldn't leave it as I do want it to be able to be silenced

[@Alarmo05221]

Fire lite is strange clearly in this video

[@mikeschulte4271]

Can we please have more funny videos with Hayden and durability testing or other random funny videos?

[@hotbytesB]

Do generator protection for December testing

[@stevenyoung478]

i love the videos seems like you got a little mad lol

[@skitties_the_folf6969]

my school where i grew up they had them shut durring a fire drill

[@Twentythree33]

It's unfortunate Fire-Lite doesn't have custom drill like Notifier.

[@chamberlainman1012]

When are we gonna get more durability testing?

[@zoomgaming1559]

I made that comment in the video and great video nic

[@Tucksgaming121]

Question, if I wanted to buy and build a fire alarm system, like your, what site do you use to buy the devices? I can assume not Amazon or eBay. Or do you get them in person or online?

[@nics-systems-electric]

Mostly eBay

[@BlakesBench]

Wait the CO strobes needs a strobe thing or is it for sync?

[@owenhickey13]

Took a quick read of the manual. It says the drill button will activate anything that is programmed as silenceable. So I’m thinking if you set the strobes to be non silenceable then drill wouldn’t activate them. Not sure if this is a trade off you’re willing to make however

[@nics-systems-electric]

I'll try that and mess around with it thanks.

[@IanGSully]

Uh oh, I think Nic just gave himself a reason to tie the whole garage system into the house system instead of just having the garage on a separate system lol. But seriously, I think that is just a bunch of bullcrap that you can't do that. I hope they improved that on the FireLite ES panels because that is what I have lol

[@ZT_1234]

Does it treat Drills and walk tests the same? If you disabled walk test for zone ten, would it also disable it for the drill?

[@UKsystems]

Is there any option to program this with the computer as there is a USB connection on the circuit board some manufacturers of pieces of equipment like this is very limited user options because most qualified people would have access to the professional level software?

[@Eric_Rosen]

try on your notifier panel if you have a notifier module to test it with

[@elevatorstrainsandmore8313]

I thinking the firelite may have a bug error because the firelite panel does not let you select the drill you want. Also I thinking pushing the drill button on the firelite panel will set every emergency alarms includes fire alarm, police alarm, medical alarms, carbon monoxide alarm, and other alarms.

[@elevatorstrainsandmore8313]

My comment may not make sense.

[@pfefferwal]

The thumbnail 💀

[@nics-systems-electric]

It's a banger

[@retrostudio5600]

Carbon monoxide is a poisonous, flammable gas that is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and slightly less dense than air. Me: Then how do I have Carbon Monoxide in my house?

[@Open-Tech]

Just out of curiosity, what revision is your panel on?

[@mattdude]

Why does the panel click like that during the drill?

[@Dawezil]

Hey nic. Wondering what tools i should get. Starting on being an electrician/security/fire alarm tech. Plan to be a electrician with my fire tech certification. So im just wondering what tools i should get.

[@nics-systems-electric]

I like Klein and wera and knipex for hand tools and Milwaukee for power tools

[@Dawezil]

@nics-systems-electric thanks

[@Stihl_theofficer]

Hello Nic do I need to get panel and all that to finish my system????????

[@nolanbhanchand4744]

THE “Dumb thing”

[@TheMcGeeTwins]

Do you have any videos about tools because I think you post one before I can’t find it.

[@nics-systems-electric]

I do not

[@TheMcGeeTwins]

I thought you posted one like a year ago tho.

[@TheMcGeeTwins]

Someone made the edit of you kzbin.info8K6HhWOFvLQ?si=1udjXdtkd8l7E_VN

[@TrevMonsterbeastgame801]

dang it won't stop

[@JWC-LOL]

Maybe it’s acting like an actual fire alarm😂

[@bradleywest1984]

Ye you need to fix that

[@Oh_fortheloveofpete]

you got a once in a deade weather bomb coming in. are you ready for it? possible power outtages, will you be filming?

[@nics-systems-electric]

Yes I filmed it

[@Clip_It1]

just kick it and it will work again, method works on everything!

[@JayS-l6f]

In my hospital that I work at when they test it everything goes off it's a gentle bell ding thingy but all the doors/magnetic doors close it lets go of the magnet....as well as when its real or a false alarm I could never tell if its real or not only then when the message says its a test or all clear...but it doesn't matter alarms goes off and all doors close....I dont know if they are testing the whole system to make sure alarm triggers fire doors or whatever the case may be but happens every time....Im hoping they dont make the system set off everything alarms sprinklers and doors and whatever else alarm is connected during a test or an oopsy or triggered by shitty cooking

[@canadianemergencylights]

maybe because the drill is supposed to be for everything?

[@karmatsering9055]

CO strobe should be temporal 4?

[@josephfrye7342]

It should be but some reason fire was temporal code 4 of 4 but it’s code 3 now

[@GentexGuy1997]

This is why i hate Honeywell not ever i had to experience this with simplex or any problems

[@nics-systems-electric]

Yeah it would throw a network fault or get stuck in a boot loop before you ever got that far.

[@GentexGuy1997]

@ yea

[@GentexGuy1997]

@@nics-systems-electric notifier is good, but just Firelite I just don’t care for too much

[@josephfrye7342]

@@GentexGuy1997 combined gentex and system sensor so we got notifier systems voice evac speaker strobes.

[@stormboy4k]

Hi!

[@AidenShogun2020]

Seems like the system was faulty

[@thedtubeteam7981]

7:29 What is Canadian Opt?

[@nics-systems-electric]

I'm not quite sure

[@HydrAlarms_of_CJP_Productions]

There’s no such thing as a “crappy video” from Nic

[@nics-systems-electric]

Well thank you

[@Charlieyt-b6e]

Nick why when you go into settings it goes into trouble because it happens on my panel to.

[@nics-systems-electric]

Because programming mode is considered an off normal condition where parts of the system may not be operable

[@Charlieyt-b6e]

Thanks

[@Charlieyt-b6e]

Also love the vids they also help me!

[@uzi686]

nic ur a eletricer u should know how to do it

[@nstrains4001]

what if you put the carbon monoxide alarms on its own panel?

[@nickcliff]

The ads on KZbin are ridiculous the very irritating I don’t fancy paying high price for the crappy no ads music app I don’t care about

[@nics-systems-electric]

The ads are annoying I'm debating getting KZbin premium myself. The KZbin Music app is actually pretty good there are some songs missing and that does bother me however the algorithm is the best I've ever used out of Apple Music and Spotify I must say.

[@ATK_J.Y.S_I.N.D_Offical]

Huh? 😬

[@neilsookram5405]

❤gh

[@neilsookram5405]

Cool

[@elizabethgunn5553]

I AM SORY FOR BE MAD AT YOU AND DO YOU LOVE ME

[@tmalley]

Set it as nonsilenceable under the module

[@nics-systems-electric]

I'll have to try that other than then the problem of it not silencing lol