Fire in downtown Iowa City, Iowa

[@rouser301]

Okay - a steady hand on the camera, NO STUPID MUSIC ADDED, no asinine selfies, no dingbat screaming "oh my GOD, oh my GOD" and NO talking just to hear yourself talk - KUDOS - THUMBS UP

[@Adam20231]

I second this! I was watching this thinking “thanks for not talking and giving a commentary”!

[@misha2197]

....

[@stevenbender66]

Amen to that.

[@r.s.andrews8006]

Sounds just like the idiots on a cruise ship shooting video of people late to return to the ship and get left behind. All you hear is "Oh My God ... Oh My God ... "Oh My God ... Oh My God .. "Oh My God ... Oh My God ..What morons.

[@ardsonneveld]

Yes, except for the fact that there was not a single drip of water sprayed from the tower onto the fire till 5:42. The fire fighters in the bucket just seem to enjow the show. In Europe, that's unthinkable. Under any circumstance. Period.

[@davee6406]

Wow that is drastically unacceptable water supply management.

[@trvman1]

GREAT video to show what cheap building products are used today. New home catches fire, it is fully involved in 5 minutes.

[@trvman1]

Ok, so the SAME material won't burn once it is built? Good grief. I guess all these new homes that people LIVE in and go from a small fire to fully involved in 5 minutes are because someone forgot a few nails you would say they were still under construction.

[@luissanchez723]

@Klaa2 lmfao

[@masterhacker7065]

@@trvman1 You got 50 million dollars to build an apartment complex out of steel and concrete? oh sorry the price just went up to 200 million dollars looks like you are out of luck and now bankrupt.

[@andydickey]

I am a firefighter - retired - New York State certified interior structural firefighter and trainer - before retiring I was Captain of a tower ladder like that one - I wasn't there and don't know the whole picture - but it does seem they were rather slow in establishing their water supply. The tower (really a quint) (you can tell its a Pierce from the bucket) had to have been there for at least a minute or two before the video started since they were already jacked and the tower starting up. It was clearly an exterior attack on the way in, so they should have established water supply first. Tower's no good without water. So why didn't they drop one man and their 5" at the nearest hydrant on their path in - with the Pierce you can wrap the hydrant and it will pull out the back. Driver pulls up, puts both the pump and aerial in gear, sets the chocks, then gets the 5" onto the inlet and tells the hydrant guy to open it up. Gets the water supply established. One of the tower guys sets the jacks and gets the tower ready. My guess is they could have had wet stuff on the red stuff about three or four minutes faster - and you could see how quickly that fire spread. Done it enough times myself to know.

[@NYM1980]

I'm glad you said something, I'm not a firefighter, don't know much about it, but was curious why it seemed to take so long to get going. Either way, it's very brave what you all do!

[@TT-nx1wh]

I am a firefighter in the Midwest. I realize everything thing you said makes sense but, we typically (other Midwest cities included) do not have the staffing level on a truck company like The FDNY has. Those firefighters taking the hydrant might be the engine crews. Helping a two person truck company.

[@floydyoung7329]

@@TT-nx1wh that's understandable I'm on a 2 man engine. I was trying to figure out why engines didnt forward lay in. It looks like 2 were just sitting idle. Looks are decieving especially on KZbin because we only see a tenth of what is going on. Regardless of anything that was quite a fire.

[@kevinhancock8157]

UK firefighter..we would of had a jet on that within 35 seconds of arrival ..it even high pressure hosereel in even less time..than supplemented from either a second pump or a hydrant ..

[@floydyoung7329]

@@kevinhancock8157 serious question? Do you mean a jet as in airplane? And what would a high pressure hose reel have done to that amount of fire?

[@iljinjong1650]

I am a professional firefighter for 21 years now and this was frustrating to watch.

[@rayfraley6826]

amen ive got 18 years in it piss meoff to watch this video

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@TheNikkirock]

VERY frustrating to watch!! Per 1: "the firefighters are here" Per 2: "what are they doing?" Per 1: "watching it burn it looks like!"

[@EMSED4U]

They had to pass a hydrant coming in. Stop and make a forward lay. No reason to drag LDH a block down the street in a large city. It took far too long to get water on this fire.

[@daviddelaet8116]

I was thinking the same thing. By the time they got water on it the whole top floor was pretty much going.

[@altay6320]

Basement savers

[@steveleslie9022]

Crazy...even 3 engines sitting behind the platform and none of them hit hydrants as well....lots of room for improvement, and to put up the bucket with no water wasn't very smart either.

[@gregmackenzie5822]

@@steveleslie9022 Have to agree with all these comments , one of the pumpers should have laid a supply line to the aerial , Firefighter 32 years Retd.

[@89.8kiwifm9]

Exactly what I was thinking too. By the time they find a hydrant, the fire will have burnt itself out! For a city area I'm surprised there aren't more hydrants per block.

[@175firefighter]

I guess for the extra challenge they wait 6 minutes before applying water to the fire?

[@gottistgeil579]

LOL Best comment. :)

[@jamesschneider8228]

Just wanted to give the Fire a good head start

[@westernate]

Thank you for non-vertical video

[@Steve-Kratz]

No doubt!

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

You should be supported to take lessons on how to use a video camera...

[@adammcclelland6625]

The USA need better water systems in place, 5 minutes before they started using water what a joke.

[@jimsmith9931]

At about 8 minute mark second fire truck first washes ambulance off before tackling 🔥.

[@phalcon23]

And people wonder why paramedics like myself have a love/hate relationship with the FD :)

[@railwayman100]

Actually if you watch again, there's no-one on the ladder. Nozzle and ladder operated by remote control. The nozzle was probably in it's travel position and just so happen to be pointing toward the ambulance.

[@0xFF48]

@@railwayman100 Perhaps. I think the main issue is, that ladder truck was moving into position about the 1:00, 3 other fire vehicles were already on scene at the start of the video. Yet some how it took almost 7 minutes for the first aerial to get water established, and another minute to get the second one. If they had water established around the 2 minute mark, nobody would have cared that the ambulance got washed first.

[@AlvinthechipmunkHuynh]

@@phalcon23 but you always need to clean your rig before heading out. You can't fight fire with a dirty rig.

[@markofy4982]

È una cosa vergognosa! Questi firemans sono degli incapaci

[@jarno60061]

I watch these videos and never cease to be amazed how long it takes to put water on fire.

[@tomp8871]

I see it the other way, it's amazing how fast a fire grows within minutes. Any wind, forget it.

[@kolptroop9983]

As a retired police officer I would like to commend the traffic guys with excellent cone placement.

[@michaeld.4521]

lol

[@badboytkf]

😂😝🤣

[@Rags722]

LOL, the only guy on scene to do the job right!

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

Yeah.

[@michaelgregory4027]

That was Classic 🤣

[@BurntRaisinToast]

Slowest fire department in the USA? Iowa City should be embarrassed by that performance. The videographer, on the other hand, did a terrific job. Great video!

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@RickHarrington4106]

Just curious. There were three pumpers without any hose lines deployed parked just to the rear of the first in tower truck . According to Google Earth there was a plug about 100 feet behind those pumpers (at Dubuque Street). Why didn't one of the pumpers catch that plug and lay a supply line into the tower? That would have saved the time consuming task of having to hand jack a supply line from the tower to a plug about a block away.

[@duenge]

Amen!!!! I've jacked a lot of 5" in my career,...always easier to let the rig move it.

[@trentphillips9238]

Are these paid guys?

[@NPhillips856]

@@trentphillips9238 paid or volunteer, both are required to go through the same training and be ready for these types of situations. But to answer your question I believe they are paid.

[@NPhillips856]

Was wondering that too, figured it would have been easier to move the truck closer or let the engine crews help, but maybe they were doing other things. Probably just wanted the ladders to do most of the water work.

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

Just terrible.

[@beauniekerk1884]

Almost every fire truck in the Netherlands has 1000 gallons of water on board, so the can start putting out the fire the moment they arrive. no time wasted.

[@k0smon]

BN///// All those engines just sitting around have at least 500 gal tanks. Maybe they were all waiting for the chief to arrive

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@Bradley38]

This quint also had a water tank, probably 500 gallons... But it wasn't used.

[@13eckerlosmuerte]

Ladder 1 should have laid line from hydrant facing opposite direction connected to engine 1 getting both deck guns up and running, while ladder two should supply engine 2 and 3 while their deck guns would work. Engine 3 should have laid 2 inch to hose gun and suppressed on the farthest part of the building protecting other buildings from embers. Medic 1 should be stationed in the middle on the left part of screen

[@deekay336]

I'm no expert by any means or even a novice, but that looked like everyone was bumbling around and took 9 years for the water.

[@robotslug]

Seems like they are trained to protect the corners first as they are the most structurally integral. Interesting to watch, a rare viewpoint.

[@robotslug]

That said, video ended too soon! I was invested!

[@CheapShot]

@@robotslug Battery had died but they got it under control fairly quickly. Good job ICFD.

[@stevenbender66]

Guy#1: Are you a professional fire fighter? Guy#2: No. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[@billharrigan9178]

8 minutes and 40 sec. to get water on the fire / WOW

[@mxslick50]

First off, this is ONE ANGLE from a fixed location of a large fire scene. You CANNOT SEE OR KNOW what other things are taking place that the camera does not show!! You were NOT there, you DO NOT have the full picture, you DO NOT hear the radio traffic to get an idea of what else was going on at the time before the towers put water on. Second, if you do a little bit of research, there WAS a lot going on BEFORE the towers flowed water: From another post: " Chris Arch 3 days ago @Rob McMaster within two minutes of receiving the call there were firemen rushing inside the building, applying water, and evacuating construction workers. This was not evident to the roof top cameras nor the Monday morning quarterbacks. There were multiple factors the public were not aware of but the assistant chief has now made known in a Press Citizen interview including the concern for the construction crane and operator, evacuating a daycare that was next door, carrying 5" supply lines nearly 150 yards (hundreds of pounds), weather conditions (It was extremely windy and cold.), and coordinating with the police to keep the public safe and out of the way of the response. I don't know what department you work for, but these men did an incredible job, especially in light of the conditions. Our community is very proud of the efforts of everyone who was involved including ICFD, ICPD, and the Johnson County Ambulance. " For those who can't read, here is the big point right here, again: "within two minutes of receiving the call there were firemen rushing inside the building, *applying water*, and evacuating construction workers." You can't blindly lob in water with a tower or deck gun while firefighters and victims are still inside the structure!! It irritates me that so many non-firefighters (and some who are and should know better) come on these videos on KZbin and make stupid comments without any FACTS to back up what they say.

[@markenda1]

@@mxslick50 I agree with you that we are getting only one viewpoint and angle. We cannot hear the radio traffic and are not aware of any problems they may be having. That being said, when the camera angles down and shows one firefighter trying to drag a 5" line over to a hydrant and what appears to be at least three engines with personnel from which at least one other firefighter should be able to assist. There is absolutely no evidence that water was being applied within two minutes. I am not a firefighter, but I do have eyes and it looks to me that the management of personnel was seriously lacking. The conditions may have had a bearing on the situation, but not to the point of taking as long as it did to get water on the fire.

[@mxslick50]

@@markenda1 The evidence was here (buried in comments), and if you do a bit of digging on the internet you can find the same info: From another post: " Chris Arch 3 days ago @Rob McMaster within two minutes of receiving the call there were firemen rushing inside the building, applying water, and evacuating construction workers. This was not evident to the roof top cameras nor the Monday morning quarterbacks. There were multiple factors the public were not aware of but the assistant chief has now made known in a Press Citizen interview including the concern for the construction crane and operator, evacuating a daycare that was next door, carrying 5" supply lines nearly 150 yards (hundreds of pounds), weather conditions (It was extremely windy and cold.), and coordinating with the police to keep the public safe and out of the way of the response. I don't know what department you work for, but these men did an incredible job, especially in light of the conditions. Our community is very proud of the efforts of everyone who was involved including ICFD, ICPD, and the Johnson County Ambulance. " Again, the statement "There is absolutely no evidence that water was being applied within two minutes." is just based on this one view. I agree that a LOT of the BS in the comments on this video could have been avoided if the uploader had included that info in the description, or pinned Chris' comment, or maybe linked to the Press Citizen interview. (But then again, the main types of people making those comments are no content, no subscriber trolls who would never read the description or a pinned comment anyway...) You said: "I am not a firefighter, but I do have eyes and it looks to me that the management of personnel was seriously lacking. The conditions may have had a bearing on the situation, but not to the point of taking as long as it did to get water on the fire." Read the above. If crews or victims are INSIDE a burning structure, you CANNOT blast water from OUTSIDE! You will steam broil whoever is in there, and those tower's water jets can easily tear apart the flimsy unfinished construction. A dead or injured firefighter cannot help put the fire out. And until you become a firefighter or at least train, you may have eyes, but not the background or experience to criticize either the time or management efforts. I have been training for the last several months to get the Volunteer Dept. in my tiny town revived...it has been a steep learning curve and I have a long way to go. My first training has been, you guessed it, fire scene command and evaluation. Now this is something I agree with you on 100%: "That being said, when the camera angles down and shows one firefighter trying to drag a 5" line over to a hydrant and what appears to be at least three engines with personnel from which at least one other firefighter should be able to assist." The lack of foresight for "laying in" as it is called, was a big mistake. it could have, and should have, been done by dropping at the hydrant and driving into position, rather than manually. Lacking the radio traffic, the personnel assisting can go either way. But even if the others all had assignments, I agree at least one could have safely diverted long enough to help out with that 5" line. But I wasn't here, and not in command, so.... I appreciate that you are responding intelligently and with respect.

[@rickymccutcheon]

@@mxslick50 I agree but its youtube so u know , all these assholes that watch videos from their couch know better ,lol ,this statement should be on every fire video explaining to the idiots making comments that show they don't know the real deal, what goes on the fire ground is always a complex call, until u walked a mile in there shoes , I suggest u shut the F*** up, ty , oh yeah I been a firefighter for 42 years , both paid and volunteer

[@rickymccutcheon]

@@markenda1let me put it this way as nicely as I can , fighting the fire is never the first priority , RESCUE of all personnel is , so if there searching the building looking for people , u cant spare people just for a hose pull as u see it , and u never put water on a building with big guns till its all clear

[@ruiutomy1]

Well well, doesn't matter how good and modern are your tools if nobody's can manage them efficiently.

[@Michael-is1zy]

Nobody hits a hydrant on the way in? WTF!

[@patrickperry8951]

If you were paying attention they had to run a long hose and on cold days it's harder to hook up moron

[@patrickperry8951]

Plus I don't see you in the video helping so zip it

[@duncanfamily5099]

Tagging a hydrant with a truck is always a good idea.

[@jaysmith1408]

K Duncan it’s a quint, not uncommon for us to lay in with our truck, only downside is that it’s a royal pain to re-pack. Also didn’t help that neither engine, nor truck, appears to have passed at least the hydrant they are using.

[@shawnhansen4581]

That's b.s we lay in on all structure 🔥

[@chaise91]

It might just be me but firefighting seems like the most inefficient emergency service. Their response time to a fire is great but once they're on-site it takes *forever* to actually get water on flame. I've noticed this in a number of firefighting videos. There has got to be a better way.

[@Russian-Troll]

This will set Iowa City back another 100 years.

[@bryansimmons7762]

I've noticed in most of the videos I've watched about fire fighting, there seems to be no sense of urgency in getting water on the fire

[@eagle12209]

I second that. It also takes too long to arrive at the fire area.

[@JL-bs6yz]

I was thinking the same

[@mitchapalooza1169]

im sure your local fire department is accepting new volunteers

[@xBloodXGusherx]

I watched Russian Firefighters. Those guys don't mess around. They get to the scene and get right to work.

[@greg2976]

Same here. If it was my house... What is taking you guys so long to get on the fire!!!!!!

[@tvsteve2]

I am a retired Firefighter and am surprized that the first thing i noticed was that steel crane sticking up that could fail at those temps as the fire grew!

[@CheapShot]

Hey, where are you seeing this video from?

[@qwaynick]

I was thinking about the entire building collapsing with the fire load.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@RickStolz]

I am with the volunteer fire brigade in Germany and have experienced a fire of these dimensions. I don't need that again.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@jackiedaytona7681]

EO forgot to unpin the stick out of rescue mode and make sure the nozzle was out of default stow position. Oof. It always seems to go that way when folks are filming too.

[@steve1978ger]

Just speculating, but maybe the 4:00 hydrant wasn't their first choice, and they couldn't access another one due to snow and ice? The one at the foot of the building is almost buried.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@jakesmith2515]

Coupla observations. You had 3 engines there with tanks full of water. Hit it with the deck gun and keep the fire in check. 1500 gallons minimum can do a lot. Second, you have to attack the fire at its lowest point. Lower that bucket and put the stream in the would be windows and knock that fire before moving up. I get it. It's under construction, and is gonna be torn down, but they could have saved themselves some time with some better tactics.

[@timreckerliiknnn1984]

My dad was in the fire and he was putting the fire out

[@johnwyoder]

I noticed that too! When they finally got water to the tower ladder, they were spraying high and to the far side of the structure. Made no sense to me at all.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@JJUrdzela]

Hasn't this fire department ever heard of engine's supporting ariels with a water supply??? This definitely was not Iowa City F. D. finest hour???

[@doug112244]

How come I have a feeling this fire could have been put out before it got to this point if the people that caused it has bothered to have a couple of fire extinguishers on hand.

[@BenjaminEsposti]

Or even just be more careful with their torch, etc...

[@patrickperry8951]

Glue fires are hard to put out

[@RaoulThomas007]

Construction loan is paid off now...

[@iamobserving9917]

Especially when the firefighters are doing their impression of the Keystone cops.

[@mxslick50]

@@iamobserving9917 Are you a firefighter? If not, you don't have a clue. Go back to whacking off to anime in mommy's basement.

[@hugohostenwald2384]

Why there is no fire truck directly with a water tank to start watering the time to connect to the water network ????

[@DexiVisuals]

Huh?

[@terrymartin6892]

If the engines lead with the LDH from the hydrant to the fire bldg.,you could have had 3 deck guns on the fire bldg. in abt 2.5 mins.Streching the LDH a blk down from the tower to a hydrant takes too long.The T L bucket should have 2 moniters-one with a stacked tip,one with a variable tip nozzle.The video was great-no moving of the camara-a very good overall view of the fire scene.Good job.

[@zacharyanonymous5170]

terry martin @Rob McMaster are you a firefighter saving lives running into burning buildings or do you sit on your couch and tell firefighters how to do there job they know what they’re doing I’m a firefighter myself they knew what they were doing. Answer me so I know you read this message.

[@poppiarlin5612]

Zachary Gotterbarn There is no need to hand lay LDH with 2 pumpers behind the aerial. It’s called a reverse lay. And it places a pumper on the water source. In line pumping of LDH is not a good idea. It took entirely too long to apply water!!!

[@zacharyanonymous5170]

Steven Phillips Departments may not operate like you want them to but they are the ones saving lives and fighting fires and not sitting on a couch complaining I’m a firefighter myself they knew what they were doing. END OF DISCUSSION.

[@poppiarlin5612]

Zachary Gotterbarn You are speaking to a 41 year career firefighter. I retired from one of the largest departments in the south. I served 21 years as a Battalion Chief. Our department is an ISO Class 1. That is not good fire-ground operation. I don’t really care what you think. It’s fact. Check NFPA 1710 and see what the rule of thumb is for successful initial attack. Waiting five minutes to apply water is not saving lives. You apparently are a very sick person. It has nothing to do with my opinion it is what is considered the fire service best practices which by the way are developed by successful departments. You obviously don’t have a clue about how real fire departments work.

[@zacharyanonymous5170]

Steven Phillips I’m tired of fighting I don’t don’t want to be mad because I have family over I won’t be commenting on videos you commented on anymore that’s for sure. Good night

[@DC-ih8bv]

In NYC we use a water relay to keep the momentum of pressure. A long stretch like that is water losing a lot of pressure every 10 feet. I realize resources are limited and you have to do what you got to do, but that was some water delay. Having said that, it’s not the brothers fault where the fire is bigger than the city. These guys are dealing with a building boom and understaffed.

[@Sandsculptor]

Once the firefighters got the water running it didn't take long to begin tamping down the 40-foot tall flames. But, I was amused that the ladder truck on the right, when they got water to the ladder it began to spray water (at 7:40) off to the right and began drowning an Ambulance. Things like that happen I guess... LOL I'm glad the Crane Operator was able to climb down before he was injured up in his elevated crane workplace perch. And it appears that all the other builders got out as well. The filming of this video was generally an excellent shot. Thanks for sharing...

[@greyjay9202]

Very slow to get the hydrant sorted, and water to the tower ladder. A building under construction provides an ideal path for fire to spread quickly. I'm surprised they didn't have at least 2 more towers working that fire.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@BIGDROC99]

Modern construction at its best

[@BrumCityCyclistUK]

The more I watch these US fire fighters videos it makes me happy to live in the UK as the response is much much faster. 5:50 before water was turned on, UK would be less then 1min as they carry water.

[@BrumCityCyclistUK]

Kevin our fire trucks carry a fare amount of water and are easily hooked up to a near by hose drain to aid with feeding water to the truck. Our ladder trucks no don’t carry water but water is normally used on a fire while the ladder set up and can also hook up to a normal truck to use water. My point is the time it takes to get water on a fire that worries me.

[@Brulzie61]

@@BrumCityCyclistUK I totally agree. I've watched many vids on US/UK fire tactics and the one thing stands out beyond all else. The time it takes to tackle a fire with water. The UK wins hands down.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@vuk9118]

Today is a sad day for career departments I don't understand why the engine did not take the hydrant. Second switch the stick from rescue to attack mode. If fire and ems is separate in Iowa, these crews need some time off the job for remediation.

[@zacharyanonymous5170]

vuk 911 are you a firefighter saving lives running into burning buildings or do you sit on your couch and tell firefighters how to do there job they know what they’re doing I’m a firefighter myself they knew what they were doing. Answer me so I know you read this message.

[@ReflectedMiles]

@@zacharyanonymous5170 Hmmm ... you had your hat handed to you under one thread already. If you can't learn from what you watch, good and bad, and imitate the first while hopefully helping to improve everyone's results for the future from the second, then just thank the video poster and firefighters and move on. I'm coming from airport experience, and while the equipment capabilities are significantly different as is the approach, there are too many of these on YT where the size-up and action plan implementation is agonizing to watch. Imagine risk appraisal and actuarial staff at an insurer watching the opening minutes go by here.

[@vuk9118]

​@@zacharyanonymous5170 There is many ways to do things. I can sit back and pick off the video all day but I wasn't there so I don't know what exactly went down on the fire ground. This video should be used for training and fixing the mistakes that were made. The hydrant should have been taken a lot sooner if the call came in as a working fire. Spraying from rescue mode instead of the attack mode we can both agree that was screwed up. And yes I have been blasted by the Ariel due to $hitty engineers not knowing were to point the nozzle.

[@mxslick50]

@@vuk9118 I agree with most of what you said. But were you aware of this when commenting? From another post: " Chris Arch 3 days ago @Rob McMaster within two minutes of receiving the call there were firemen rushing inside the building, applying water, and evacuating construction workers. This was not evident to the roof top cameras nor the Monday morning quarterbacks. There were multiple factors the public were not aware of but the assistant chief has now made known in a Press Citizen interview including the concern for the construction crane and operator, evacuating a daycare that was next door, carrying 5" supply lines nearly 150 yards (hundreds of pounds), weather conditions (It was extremely windy and cold.), and coordinating with the police to keep the public safe and out of the way of the response. I don't know what department you work for, but these men did an incredible job, especially in light of the conditions. Our community is very proud of the efforts of everyone who was involved including ICFD, ICPD, and the Johnson County Ambulance. "

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@ggroch95]

In Europe fire trucks always have tanks full of water so when they arrive on site, they can pour water immediately. From what I see in US it works in different way...

[@johnfalkenstine8377]

A good example of why new stickbuild wooden construction should be banned outright.

[@stevenbender66]

John Falkenstine. So we should go back to using straw?

[@gottistgeil579]

Steven Bender. No, what the REST(!) of the world (NOT including your neighbor and own kind, Canada) uses: stone, cement, concrete, brick, stucco...

[@stevenbender66]

Kevin Well said.

[@stevenbender66]

Kevin A very intelligent answer. Thank you.

[@rockstarofredondo]

Gott ist Geil The US has a lot of earthquake zones and brick-building is pretty much banned in those places.

[@rockstarofredondo]

What was this building going to be?

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@tomwilliam5118]

Great filming. didn't move left right up down left right up down just stayed on the main content kept it in focus great job

[@CheapShot]

Where did you see this video from?

[@tomwilliam5118]

@@CheapShot just scrolling down through the videos after I opened up KZbin and one of them was yours. great job again thank you did they find out what caused the fire my guess is someone you was using a torch and a worker caught it on fire by mistake

[@AlleyKatt]

@@CheapShot Your video also showed up on my "suggested" feed.

[@CheapShot]

​@@tomwilliam5118 Thanks. It just did an uptick in views so I was curious. It was posted a lot to fire fighting forums, which is why I didn't sell it to any news sites or anything.

[@CheapShot]

@@AlleyKatt Thanks. It just did an uptick in views so I was curious. It was posted a lot to fire fighting forums, which is why I didn't sell it to any news sites or anything.

[@johnargus9081]

When this video first started it was manageable, and there were several pumpers on scene doing nothing. If the trucks had used their deck guns to empty their tanks onto it they might have smothered it, or at least, hugely delayed its expansion before it could grow.

[@DanielOrtegoUSA]

Back when I was a hose jockey and later an engineer, we trained constantly. Watching this video, my observations is this department does not.

[@jplff1630]

Use one of your engines and do a reverse lay to the hydrant.

[@jlboveri]

Exactly!

[@Big-O43]

Thinking the same, what about deck guns also on the Engines ?

[@mxslick50]

@@Big-O43 They had an interior crew working well before the start of the video doing search and rescue and laying water. (Those crews entered from the far side of the building, not visible in this video.) You CANNOT throw water from outside with an interior crew working, you will seriously injure or kill them and any victims. Once the all-clear was given, the towers fired up. Yes there were some mistakes in this operation clearly visible in this video, but please do some research before jumping to conclusions.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@PreservationEnthusiast]

Very poor performance here. 6 mins on vid, and certainly more before vid. That's 8-10 mins before they got water to aerial. Why didn't they scope the hydrants on run in and approach and/or drop a man/hose. Those minutes could have made a huge difference for the initial external attack and the amount of the structure they can save.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@PreservationEnthusiast]

@@tonyboss3025 Are you spamming other channels in the comments?

[@SuperBigblue19]

In the Navy we always had a fire watch with some poor junior sap with nozzle at the ready when any hot work was being done. Yet these construction outfits don't seem to do it, because I see a lot of these under construction fires that seem to be avoidable. These guys must post a bond because I can't see an insurance company wanting to payout due to a lack of safeguards

[@jonboogy]

A hose, an extinguisher? SOMETHING!

[@Cthippo1]

Race to the bottom mentality. It's cheaper to buy insurance than to pay someone minimum wage to do a fire watch. The only time I have ever seen a fire watch on a construction project was at refineries.

[@wilsjane]

Hot work on major building sites and construction facilities is permitted in the UK and all staff need a permit following a training induction. The 4 main factors are. No storage of flammables, other than those in direct use in the work area. Ventilation to prevent buildup of solvent fumes. Both flammable and toxic. Extinguishers and Everyone taught how to use them. Hot work ceases 30 minutes (sometimes one hour) before the shift ends and workers leave the area.

[@echohunter66]

Great job on doing the video!...5 minutes and 45 seconds later before a drop of water was put on that fire is a terrible job!..why did they not use their onboard water for immediate initial attack until the hydrant lay was done??....that would be a huge fail for my department if we operated like that.

[@sportnbigwood]

How come the 3 engine companies didn’t lay a hose and water relay to the truck company? This will be a training film.

[@ffjsb]

A "How NOT to" training film.

[@sportnbigwood]

ffjsb - Exactly ! Thx u

[@mxslick50]

Agreed, That was a major mistake in this one.

[@WMGIII]

A large building under construction is a fire hazard. The response was, as usual, underwhelming. They were lucky the place didn't burn to the ground.

[@michaelkoncal7622]

May as well let it burn out now.

[@5Swimmom]

I used to live in Iowa City. The main fire station is only three or four blocks from this fire.

[@africacarey]

Oh I believe that too and they took the slowest

[@Gizmologist1]

10 minutes and they STILL do not have the aerial truck getting water.Unbelievable! Have they ever done this before?

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@johnsouza5943]

WOW!! Almost 6 minutes into the video before water was applied, and they have 3 pump trucks behind the tower ladder truck. But instead run to a hydrant a block away. I'm glad no one was inside burning to death.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@Nite2012Mare]

4:10 before we got a hose to a hydrant, parked the truck too far away, fire spreading, tower crane looming overhead...oh and I didn't even mention the guy in the basket cooking. C-

[@erics.629]

I don't know, I'm not a fire fighter but it always seems like it takes forever to get these guys water and the rest of the guys are just walking around so confused! Love all your service and bravery for sure! Thanks to the firefighters!!!👍🙏

[@bobcat1]

If they had gotten the water on 5 minutes earlier, there would be minimal damage. Seems there is a lot of room for improvement in fire fighting.

[@hankgs]

First in- On Scene- In Command, large , commercial multi-story under construction structure, active fire 3rd/4th floors, #1 side. This will be Main St. Command- Break- Eng 2 and 3 lay in LDH supply to T-1 and T-2. Eng 4 lay in for deck gun operation on the #1 & 4 side.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@Aprilsraven629]

Just imagine that happening when its built and hundreds living in it ....wooden structures are match boxes waiting for an ignition source....

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@fatdaddio3796]

:33 ......2 engine companies on the scene right behind the tower and neither of them layed a supply line? WTF? Please tell me I missed something there?

[@mxslick50]

You missed a LOT. First off, this is ONE ANGLE from a fixed location of a large fire scene. You CANNOT SEE OR KNOW what other things are taking place that the camera does not show!! You were NOT there, you DO NOT have the full picture, you DO NOT hear the radio traffic to get an idea of what else was going on at the time before the towers put water on. Second, if you do a little bit of research, there WAS a lot going on BEFORE the towers flowed water: From another post: " Chris Arch 3 days ago @Rob McMaster within two minutes of receiving the call there were firemen rushing inside the building, applying water, and evacuating construction workers. This was not evident to the roof top cameras nor the Monday morning quarterbacks. There were multiple factors the public were not aware of but the assistant chief has now made known in a Press Citizen interview including the concern for the construction crane and operator, evacuating a daycare that was next door, carrying 5" supply lines nearly 150 yards (hundreds of pounds), weather conditions (It was extremely windy and cold.), and coordinating with the police to keep the public safe and out of the way of the response. I don't know what department you work for, but these men did an incredible job, especially in light of the conditions. Our community is very proud of the efforts of everyone who was involved including ICFD, ICPD, and the Johnson County Ambulance. " For those who can't read, here is the big point right here, again: "within two minutes of receiving the call there were firemen rushing inside the building, *applying water*, and evacuating construction workers." You can't blindly lob in water with a tower or deck gun while firefighters and victims are still inside the structure!! It irritates me that so many non-firefighters (and some who are and should know better) come on these videos on KZbin and make stupid comments without any FACTS to back up what they say.

[@flairball]

The Bman, they couldnt have blindly lobbed water in because they didn’t have any. There is zero excuse for an engine company to not have a water supply. No doubt the smoke column was visable from quite a distance. Every engine should have drop a feed at a hydrant.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@arningad]

"The mission of the Iowa City Fire Department is to protect our community by providing progressive, high quality emergency and preventive services." "We will stay true to our values and inspire one another in our pursuit of excellence." Iowa City is a "UNESCO City of Literature".

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@robertbosworth6765]

Huge waste of time. Why didn't 1 of the engine companies drop ldh from ladder truck to the hydrant, would of saved 3 to 4 minutes at least.

[@mrstrangetiger3228]

Not to be this guy, but why was the ladder company the first ones to get water on the scene when there was a pumper behind them with the crew droning around the truck? All in all excellent work by the fire fighters, and great job on the recording.

[@mxslick50]

They had an interior crew working well before the start of the video doing search and rescue and laying water. (Those crews entered from the far side of the building, not visible in this video.) You CANNOT throw water from outside with an interior crew working, you will seriously injure or kill them and any victims. Once the all-clear was given, the towers fired up.

[@Adenzel]

Kinda scary that it took 5min and 40 seconds from the start of the video for the first appliance to get the water flowing and another two minutes for the second one. I would guess the fire was pretty small when the emergency call first went out. Definitely highlights the need to GTFO of the building when there's a fire.

[@salzst4nge]

You see firefighters scouting, there might be some outside of the picture looking for people stuck on higher floors. At this point, a fast attack is useless. Get information first. What is burning, can it explode? Dangerous areas? Danger to surrounding buildings imminent? Establish multiple lines - need more than one hydrant to feed multiple trucks. Plus the building might collapse, so no fighting inside. All thats left is using the ladder truck, but you might need it for a rescue still. No priority in getting water incredibly fast. There coule be, if you immediately had 3+ ladders on scene, but that will rarely happen, as they usually arrive from other, farther departments

[@Adenzel]

@@salzst4nge Yeah very good point.

[@Adenzel]

@Daniel Arch Thanks for adding more clarity to what was actually going on there. Hope your brother got through it ok.

[@davidvannevel3163]

@@salzst4nge Both ladders were already on scene at the start of the video as were multiple engine companies.

[@biggutter3335]

This is what happens when you like a matchbook on fire. No chance at stopping it, unless they could of hit the ground running with water. Nothing butt dry 2×4's and wind. Hopefully no one got hurt. This is my worst fear anytime I'm working on a structure using heat.

[@TheTaylor91676]

I have no experience fighting fires. I was in a house that caught fire once and was gutted but that makes me no expert. I'm just an armchair quarterback like everyone else here. I would think in a situation like this that your first couple priorities would be to rescue anyone who's lives are in danger and to contain the fire so it does not spread to other buildings. It seems this was achieved and from that criteria it seems they succeeded. I'm sure another item of big importance is to get the fire put out as quick as possible to minimize damage to the structure but by the time the fire department is called and can arrive a structure is usually already in trouble. I have no doubt the fire fighters and police and first responders did the best they could with what they had. I would thank them for risking their lives to help others rather than ridicule. Certainly like every large event they will go back and look at what went well and what did not. Even the best of entities always work to get better and that's how they do it. But I'd rather be the armchair quarterback that thanks them for their service and risk they take rather than ridicule them.

[@FlyToChina0071]

Funny looking building - What was it used for?

[@johnnz4375]

FlyToChina0071 , fire training........😂😂😂

[@ace.l.w]

It is now an apartment or condo complex called “the Edge” probably because of its “edgy” design… truly an eyesore. It’s on the corner of Clinton and Burlington

[@hueman09]

Regardless of the "what if's", all could have been prevented by proper use of external heating devices, use of a dedicated "fire watch" person with appropriate dry chemical extinguisher, etc blah blah blah. No i'm not a "fire fighter" per se but over two decades of OS&H on major construciton sites to include Gov't Aerospace, Fossil fuel Power generation, Nuclear Construction and Power Generation as well as on the Med/Fire response teams kind of gives me a "had proper precautions" been taken none of this would have been a talking point. Many thanks to all Emergency Services folks out there. You do make a difference, especially VFD's

[@hueman09]

@Bill Williams , conventional wisdom would think that but one must remember "how" insurance companies MAKE money. They make their additional fees by processing claims so it's a fine line between what should be and what is.

[@Gtown-gj2rm]

Send these boys back to training 🙈

[@JohnDoe69]

Why this is always SO slow in US ? Here in finland it is like 30sec when the first unit is on scene and it is full of water

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@nerovergilous8276]

It's crazy how I never noticed that. I remember that building being in construction for awhile and am just now finding out that it was on fire two years ago

[@burch2488]

Same here

[@jimmyweber7896]

Same here

[@lfdf88]

Engine companies don't lay lines?

[@mxslick50]

Agreed that was a serious mistake here.

[@davidgallagher171]

Not knowing all the facts and just observing I can’t imagine even the firefighters thought this was timely delivery of water.

[@WupperVideo]

How long do they need to get water on the hose?

[@zephaneas]

5 minutes & 43 seconds before any water was put on that fire. I wonder how much of that building could have been saved if they had started hosing it down right away.

[@mxslick50]

They had an interior crew working well before the start of the video doing search and rescue and laying water. (Those crews entered from the far side of the building, not visible in this video.) You CANNOT throw water from outside with an interior crew working, you will seriously injure or kill them and any victims. Once the all-clear was given, the towers fired up. Yes there were some mistakes in this operation clearly visible in this video, but please do some research before jumping to conclusions.

[@ericpl7227]

@@mxslick50 Bullshit, there's no interior crew working that fire, there aren't even any lines off the other trucks!

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@MrDK0010]

European firefighter here. We have high-pressure quick-deployment hoses on our engines, my department specifically has two and we are thinking of making a makeshift third quick-deployment line out of standard hoses for our attack team. It may be that the maintained layout and/or construction of these engines in the video are a bit... low speed, if that is appropriate.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@46fd04]

Where I live in Toronto, Canada, too many people say there are almost no big fires anymore because of "better building materials" and strong Fire Prevention inspections. Does this building look like it was constructed of "better building materials"? NOT. What's worse is the construction Lobbyists have convinced the Province of Ontario that it is safe to build 12 storey highrise buildings made of WOOD, which is obviously a "better building material" LOL

[@46fd04]

Watch the 2nd ladder truck. Too many times, fire crews forget to switch the nozzle position prior to extending the ladder. I've done it myself, and its embarrassing when you have to shut it down, retract the ladder, change the position of the nozzle, & start over.

[@davidcox3076]

They were just giving the medic unit a carwash. Very thoughtful of them.

[@tim850csi]

More lightweight crap construction. Another massive fire. Maybe "we" will learn someday.

[@gottistgeil579]

America, U.S. of: the OLD World

[@wilsjane]

Architects should have an annual award for who designed the best bonfire. LOL

[@wilsjane]

+Gott ist Geil. We learnt our lesson in the UK in 1666. Following the great fire, all buildings were required to have 9 inches of brick or concrete between them. It worked perfectly until last year, when some idiot did not realize that the regulations required cladding to be divided up in the same way. The people responsible for the refurbishment of Grenfel tower are criminals and should spent many years in prison. PS, I am a retired chartered surveyor, specializing in theaters and film studios

[@Batman-wv5ng]

Bryan Hensley You need you head X-ray .

[@HobbyOrganist]

The investigation found that the fire started in a third-floor room on the north side of the building. Fire Marshal Brian Greer says the room had a temporary 10′ by 10′ tent structure used as a warming area for combustible subfloor adhesives. The tent housed several cases of the adhesives and a liquid propane-fueled radiant heater. The heater was fueled by a liquid propane tank outside the tent. The heater came in contact with the combustibles in the tent and started a fire. Flames grew and the liquid propane tank started to vent, providing more fuel until it exploded. Strong winds then carried through the structure rapidly. It is estimated that the initial loss is $1,000,000. The investigation is ongoing at this time.

[@dennishough3709]

Thank you for reporting the cause.

[@drwheycooler8423]

I'm wondering if Iowa City is one of those 50 to 80K population FD's that think they are "big city" but always fumble...?

[@africacarey]

Ya probably

[@rickc2102]

70k residents, 30k students, and yeah, a lot of fumbling and bumbling.

[@jerryrigsit5400]

Idk about the firefighting strategy but I'd guess that construction crew lost control of a heater

[@rockstarofredondo]

That’s what was reported.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@lowrider11b]

Ladder on D C corner set up for rescue mode. Should think about that before starting aerial water ops.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@crazyleyland5106]

2 things; if this building was such a firebomb when half built, would it have still been so flammable when complete and occupied? I'm no firefighter, but I wonder if there's a blazing building and people are known to still be inside, would playing a mist of water, rather than a jet, over the front of the building help suppress a fire, rather like a sprinkler system, until all people inside had left?

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[@GraemeMurphy]

If this is how quickly a timber framed building burns whilst under construction it makes you wonder how quickly a completed ( and occupied) building would burn. Must ask why it took almost six minutes from arrival to get some water on it. It was lost then !

[@hebneh]

In theory, it would have a sprinkler system by the time it was completed and occupied, so a fire like this wouldn't happen. But there are other videos like this - only much, much worse - of similar-sized wooden buildings burning completely while they were under construction.

[@F8lastcallcharger345]

My neighbors house caught on fire. When the fire dept showed up it was smoking from the roof. When they put water on it the house had burned so much it had collapsed. We all still talk about how they showed up with millions in equipment but took 10-15 minutes to simply put the wet stuff on the red stuff.

[@HuntsChris]

It always amazes me how slow US firefighters are to get water on to a blaze, especially in timber structure fires.

[@shello317]

Nice video! But I give up what was the THREE ENGNES COMPANY'S DOING ? No hose on the ground or water flowing most engines carry 4 to 5 hundred gallons of water. Small city didn't anyone know a head where plugs where ? But they knock it down fast . Good job ! Doug in Dallas TX.

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[@timwalker5646]

what is wrong.don't USA firefighters like using water.that took way to long to get water on.and yes i am a Firefighter 10 years and still serving

[@stevenbender66]

Tim Walker That's exactly what the fire expected. No, we do not negotiate with fires in the U.S. No water until the fire thinks it is in control, then we wash the ambulance, THEN we spray the fire. MERICA....FUCK YEAH!!!!

[@gottistgeil579]

Steven, LOL! :)

[@banopo]

3 engines sitting behind the tower, and not one of them led out to a hydrant. Firefighters having to pull hose to the hydrant. There is an unused hydrant behind the engines on the far corner.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@aviatoregcc1405]

God how long does it take to get water supply in the UK it takes about a minute!

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@johnny_k3575]

I used to be a volunteer firefighter for 18 years , I don't know why they took them so long to hook up a hose from the pumper to the fire hydrant . don't drag the hose unroll it BIG THANKS FOR ALL OUR FOREFATHERS GOD BLESS YOU all .

[@chasesambell369]

That was some great footage. BTW I also like watching water travel down the supply hose.

[@Custardpie174]

Is there water in Iowa City?

[@CheapShot]

Spring Thaw. We have too much water now.

[@phoenixtypewriter2136]

WOW Trucks on scene when video started, 5:00 Firemen in bucket just getting a good view for 5 minutes !!

[@mxslick50]

They had an interior crew working well before the start of the video doing search and rescue and laying water. (Those crews entered from the far side of the building, not visible in this video.) You CANNOT throw water from outside with an interior crew working, you will seriously injure or kill them and any victims. Once the all-clear was given, the towers fired up. Yes there were some mistakes in this operation clearly visible in this video, but please do some research before jumping to conclusions.

[@MikeTheFireChaser13]

That was a nice stop these light weight buildings are like match books and go up like a bon fire

[@Turbo999be]

US firefighter should review their procedure of fighting fire... I've seen countless video and the water supply is ALWAYS a problem. In Europe we use smaller truck (faster) with 3000L of fire retardant. On site it takes 30s to start spraying... in the meantime more robust water supply can be installed but the fire is already fought and in 90% of the case it is already contained... Taking 5min to get water after maybe 10min to get on site it's almost always a total loss.

[@rustystove8410]

Good for you. Nobody cares. Buzz off.

[@tonyboss3025]

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[@4133EWvianen]

Glue????

[@rockstarofredondo]

And propane heating source...

[@equipment-enthusiast]

Nice view point! An extra aerial would've helped.

[@zacharyanonymous5170]

are you a firefighter saving lives running into burning buildings or do you sit on your couch and tell firefighters how to do there job they know what they’re doing I’m a firefighter myself they knew what they were doing. Answer me so I know you read this message.

[@equipment-enthusiast]

@@zacharyanonymous5170 first of all don't talk to me like your my father! Secondly you don't need to know if I'm a ff or not; I was simply making an observation based on what I could tell from this video.

[@panamint]

At least the second ladder truck ( 7.39 mark) decided to wash the ambulance parked on the street before turning the water on the fire. They must like clean equipment.

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[@davidglaum2538]

Lightweight construction again just think what would happen if it was finished and had people living in it. I wonder if things will ever change in the building codes to make things safer. I know nothing is “fire proof” but they need to be doing a lot more to improve on protect building.

[@timpula9984]

If the building was finished it would have an operating sprinkler system which would make a major difference.

[@Nareimooncatt]

@@timpula9984 plus additional fire suppression materials (fire walls, flame retardant surface materials, etc.) on finished construction.

[@davidglaum2538]

Narei Mooncatt Good a step in the right direction I hope more construction follows in this way.

[@Nareimooncatt]

@@davidglaum2538 There's fire codes for pretty much everything, and passive protection is standard. The house I bought wouldn't pass inspection due to some drywall in the attached garage not being thick enough to meet fire code specs (we fixed it up to meet code, btw). Active systems like sprinklers are also standard in commercial buildings. It's during construction when everything is exposed that things can spread so quick.

[@davidglaum2538]

Narei Mooncatt Naren I live in Illinois and they just don’t give a dam about these things. A few moments ago an entire apartment complex burned about 50 families lost everything. It ls common thing now days. If you watch some fire videos you can see how a fire in one apartment can take out the entire building very sad.

[@rainerwesenauer1674]

Water after 6 min and 8 min?! Long time!! Crazy!!!

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