Fire Mage Cata Guide in 142 Seconds!

[@HateGabe3232]

Loved the Guide....quick and easy to understand! Thanks man!

[@IaMYip]

TY, just switched to fire spec and never played cata before back then. Very helpful and quick to the point :)

[@CommonSenseMustPreva]

I'm gonna have to watch this a few times to really absorb it, but man, well frickin' done bud! All the info I was missing, super concise, and very well organized. Thank you very much!

[@kruze187]

You're probs the best person making vids for classic rn. Quick simple and straight to the point. You earned a sub 👌

[@asnieze]

This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

[@greenbikerguy5902]

Thanks for the guide. The only way I get better at these sort of things is to find someone who can explain it to me like I'm five. Before I was just facerolling buttons with mage and wondering why things wouldn't proc properly for damage.

[@Aldranor]

1:40 weave fireballs in your rotation for big ignite spreads using your fire blast proc as well as possible hot streaks

[@Ashtarot77]

Tried fire for the first time last night after watching this guide and it was super helpful. I always struggled with the spec in 25 man ICC and the other mages were never of much help like they didn't want to share their secrets with me. Assholes. But last night, I was on fire. lmao. So thank you!!!

[@michellerenee92580]

They are what I call the elitist their soul goal is to be better than you not work as a team and they buddy buddy so its impossible to advance sometimes ive been casually playing for 20 years ive seen it all

[@digibath89]

"alright then, keep your secrets" - frodo is what you reminded me of asking other mages lol

[@michellerenee92580]

@@digibath89 Elitist with no lives outside of wow act that way

[@Huckle777]

@@michellerenee92580 It's the only source of pride/accomplishment they have, so they hang on tight and don't want to share. Sad really lol

[@michellerenee92580]

@@Huckle777 sometimes im like dude get a life its a damn game

[@alythra8423]

Why are the impact and hot streak visuals not popping up. Yet another bug?

[@BreackTheHeat]

Type spellactive in curseforge, you need an addon

[@R3ar3ntry]

Roughly when can we get 25% haste via reforging you'd think? and is it worth going it?

[@R4fU]

excellent guide!! thank you so much

[@nadinemartens8953]

Awesome Video, easy to understand. Any chance you want to do one on a Shadow Priest in Cata next please. Would be curious where Im going wrong. Thanks

[@Darakai]

Ty for the Guide. Maybe you know this already but you can cast flamestrike faster with /cast [@cursor] Flamestrike :)

[@rcpclassic]

Thanks so much, I use this all the time.

[@deadspartan92]

Hello I'm kind of new to the game and I'm still learning. Is this kind of a macro ? Can you explain please 😊

[@Darakai]

@@deadspartan92 Yes, type /macro and make a new one with /cast [@cursor] Flamestrike It will no longer show where it would be, it will just insta cast on the cursor. :)

[@deadspartan92]

@@Darakai thank you very much !

[@mabell01]

I just tried this and I got kicked off my server. I looked at my macro list and it was gone. WTF 0.0

[@meulenko]

i just boosted a fire mage and dunno rlly how to play, lol. this helps lots, ty!

[@R3ar3ntry]

Is there a longer guide somewhere? Their was one mentioned in the description?

[@demon3203]

Can't you use fireblast proc to spread living bomb and save yourself like 4k mana casting 2 more times?

[@moristory]

I do it all the time. I just have one beefy boi that I put everything on, then blast him to spread it to everyone else.

[@Thegriff19]

Does the dots remaining duration have any effect on combustion damage? Or does it calculate the dots TOTAL damage rather than remaining duration?

[@rcpclassic]

I'm not 100% on this but I think Living Bomb is the only dot that needs to be reapplied before combustion.

[@shotgunammo]

It calcs the dots their damage per tick and adds that into the new dot, you do not reapply any dots especially not living bomb, all you have to do is make sure the 3 dots are present before you press combust and make sure you have high ignite ticks

[@Makalmen1]

i tried on my own i checkd here i have to adjust few things but its a very helpfull video thanks man

[@rcpclassic]

Glad we could help. If you have anything to add, drop a comment and let the world know :D

[@Muffnman007]

time warp isnt a haste buff, is a casting and attack speed increase, the important difference is that some spells are not affected by it

[@xcalliburrs]

Hey thanks for the guide, im not sure what im missing/not understanding but how does this WA show when the best time is to use combustion?

[@rcpclassic]

Good question. Once all three of your dots are up and critical mass is on the target, the combustion icon will glow.

[@york2301]

Excellent Guide! Keep it up!

[@DistrictHighlights]

for the ST opener would you not cast scorch first to get critical mass then living bomb since it increases living bomb dmg?

[@nekoriri2918]

Amazing video! Do i still need to use scorch even if i have a warlock in my party?

[@rcpclassic]

Nope. If you can get the Crit Mass debuff from someone else, thats better.

[@FantazyVideos]

I got a question, if your dots are super big BUT are about to run off should i still use combustion or does the duration of the dots affect the combustions dmg?

[@rcpclassic]

I don't know 100% but I think the only dot duration that matters and needs to be reapplied is Living Bomb.

[@deensama7718]

It takes the total remaining damage of your combined dots and adds it into fireblast. So the ideal scenario is a huge damage # ignite that has JUST refreshed + other dots > combust. There are weakauras and tools that track your biggest ignites and will write them in the chat for you after fights. If you pay attention to those you'll start to get a feeling for what your ignite damage range is, which will help you when making the decision about when to combust. Obviously the best scenario is giga huge ignite that just refreshed (this is usually off of a fireball or a pyroblast, since the damage of your last crit is what determines the damage of your ignite) but this isn't always realistic and often times it's better to just send it because holding it for too long will mean you'd lose a cast over the course of a fight. This is a big part of the reason that fire mage gets better as expac goes on: more stats on gear, more crit chance (which gives more crits so more chances for a big crit) and more haste (which at certain breakpoints adds extra ticks to all of your dots, thus increasing their total damage), which means a much more consistent playstyle. It can feel rough early on as fire because your crit chance isn't as high and so it's easy to feel like you're getting fucked by bad RNG since you're kind of at its mercy

[@R3ar3ntry]

Specifically for combustion damage + duration. It is only effected by what your current dots + how many of them you have will make combustion stronger, for example: You always want living bomb and pyro on, what can make a really good combustion is tracking if your ignite is doing 5k per tick or 25k, if you also have any cleave, it will take all the dots (Like ones you've spread with fire blast) so if 5 targets have 10k ignite + 5 pyros, and the 3 living bombs, then that combustion will suck them all up into a super dot, then you can spreading them again with another fireblast (impact proc) spreading combustion for juicy 800k aoe dmg in dots! On trash, I'm doing 1.4 mill in just combustion alone, I have a foji tracker for it. Tl:Dr make sure living bomb, pyro and high ignite is ticking before combustion

[@parallax8896]

What do i do to AOE aas fire mage? Do i spam flamestrike?

[@corlegansp]

Can we get Spreist guide?

[@rcpclassic]

Coming right up!

[@Reaperkiller85]

Does flamestrike (DOT) as it's called in details meter count as an actual dot that can couple with combustion?

[@rcpclassic]

Sadly, no.

[@Reaperkiller85]

@@rcpclassic Dang, but appreciate the guide! My DPS has been insane since understanding the proper rotation. Before seeing your vid I would still usually top the charts in dungeons cause fire mage is stupid strong but now its just untouchable with the right rotation.

[@minik7617]

what professions should i take, im new to wow/cataclysm and playing gnome mage.

[@rcpclassic]

Tailoring and Engineering unless something changes. Welcome to classic!

[@AlSniezevage]

When do you work in Mirror Image in relation to combustion? Will MI boost dots already applied meaning you can MI AFTER combustion or do it before you lay dots?

[@rcpclassic]

its so close to that you can make the choice yourself.

[@AlSniezevage]

@@rcpclassic just to be clear, I was talking about the MI 18% dmg buff that comes with the 4 piece t10 set.

[@elllelf]

Why not use scorch for fishing for crits?

[@rcpclassic]

It's close but Fireball does a bit more damage. If you really need to jump into Combust like on pull and you couldn't pre-pyro, you will use Scorch over Fireball just to try and crit as fast as possible.

[@elllelf]

@@rcpclassic Thank you. Great guide.

[@renoilegendaire9901]

someone know why my castbar dissapear when i put the weakaura from this video?

[@CB-ix2lh]

One thing I would change about this, I would recommend on AOE pulls not using 3 GCDs to individually cast Living Bomb. That's a lot of time just setting up. Instead use Living Bomb on your primary target, go into your AOE rotation and as soon as your AOE rotation procs Impact, use Impact on your primary target to spread Living Bomb and all other DoTs to nearby mobs.

[@deensama7718]

Staggering actually isn't a bad idea if the size of the pull is right. Here's why: staggered living bombs have separate timers (obviously) so when the first living bomb goes off you can impact spread one of the other living bombs onto the first time which will then cause 2 explosions. If you do that right then you get 1 living bomb explosion, then 2 explosions, then 3 explosions for a total of 6 explosions (each of which can crit and ignite) as opposed to just 3. Obviously if the pull isn't going live long enough for the explosions to hit everyone they need to then you wouldn't do this, but in that case you wouldn't want to spread living bomb anyways besides incidentally

[@cameronmanesh979]

in AOE, do you need to keep the critical mass buff on 1 target, 3 targets with living bomb, or all targets?

[@rcpclassic]

That's very min-maxy but I would just worry about the 1 priority target for Crit Mass

[@praya8029]

Which stats are we going as a fire mage?

[@EpicHyatoGaming]

Int > Hit cap (17%), Haste cap (12.5%) Crit, then Mastery. Reforge all Mastery into Crit if you're hit capped, otherwise put into hit till you're capped.

[@shotgunammo]

We have several haste caps, remember to take raid buffs into account when going for them

[@ddnbbudies]

damn i finaly understand it now lol

[@michellerenee92580]

I have duel frost and fire bit only use fire because she is a FIRE Queen 3-5 mill in damage every time way more than frost my question is how are fire mages for raiding

[@rcpclassic]

It's impossible to really know but when i was looking at raid testing and different damage logs, it looks like Fire is going to be doing pretty good in the first phase. Probably somewhere in the A-Tier.

[@michellerenee92580]

@@rcpclassic thought it was S tier ive never raided but want to

[@j2jordan647]

nice video man

[@br1580]

thank you!

[@rcpclassic]

You're welcome!

[@bog9915]

I would like to see a guide for sub rogue please

[@rcpclassic]

coming right up!

[@Cryptocommu]

Druid balance guide cata? 😢

[@Boss-dk7cn]

We need for feral Druid plz and healer

[@Muffnman007]

you have 2 talents in imp scorch for 0 mana cost and should be in imp fire blast

[@balonhd4890]

I'm curious about enchants

[@rcpclassic]

You'd have to look up a written guide or go to the Classic Mage discord for that stuff.

[@rasmus9350]

ignite? there no spell call ignite

[@jessekoch3480]

WA is not recommended but others are available.

[@BreackTheHeat]

I've played for a few hours in pre-patch and can tell that your guide is wrong.. 1. You almost never use combustion just because you have all 3 dots up, you need to have a few big criticals in a row from pyro or fireball to have a huge ignite tick + other 2 dots (which the weak aura shows) only then u can use combustion. If we use it like you said in the guide, combustion will deal only a small % of dps due to low ignite ticks. 2. In my opinion, for AoE when you are about to face a lot of mobs, you focus on the highest HP mob that is in the middle of the pack because the "Impact" spread is only 12 yards from your target, Ideally Pre-cast Pyro on it (for the Pyro dot) > Fireball while Pyro is mid-air > Only 1x Living Bomb > If all dots are up and mobs wont live long use combust as 4th button > Flamestrike > Blast Wave > Dragon's Breath is the priority order > the moment you get impact proc, you use Fire Blast to spread to all targets in 12 yards (your pyro dot lasts 8 seconds, if you are fast enough 8 seconds is more than enough to spread all 3 dots) > After than you just spam Flamestrike > Blast Wave > Dragon's Breath. P.S. At 81 we get Fire Orb, I don't know how much dps it will do, so that will depend if we use it early or later after spread.

[@JIMFRO]

This sounds good until you get ZERO big crits and never use Combust because you wanted to wait until the absolute perfect moment when all the stars align.

[@BreackTheHeat]

@JIMFRO That's why Fire is the biggest rng class in cata, too many things need to align to pop off hard

[@AlSniezevage]

I’m not using combust for any ignite under 10k.

[@AlSniezevage]

Also, do you know if the 18% damage buff from t10 4 piece mirror image will affect existing dots/ignite?

[@shotgunammo]

Jimfro in aoe you are fishing for impact procs with blastwave/dragonsbreath/flamestrike, its practically impossible not to have an impact proc on 5+ targets or more unless the stars aligned to give you the biggest misfortune in the world

[@reevestrent]

W guides

[@rcpclassic]

[@Drenz69]

CombustBanger video

[@rcpclassic]

This means a lot coming from the best Druid Tank in all of SoD

[@botchie]

the best

[@bencze465]

Why did Blizzard take the game in this direction I don't know. Theser are very specific scripts that you need to execute, like a computer. There's no place for interpretation or do anything differently, it's executing the script mechanically and then you're golden. Boss encounters also went into this direction, instead of being mindful of some abilities, it's executing tasks precisely, like a computer. It requires the intelligence and creativity of a factory conveyor belt worker. :(

[@xcalliburrs]

Idk what you're talking about...in vanilla and tbc all mages did was spam 1 button...this is the slow curve that leads to retail where the rotation is much more complicated

[@xXTheMustXx]

feelsbad that i get out dps'd by lv 84 blood dk.. while having the thaurissian staff.. lul

[@rcpclassic]

Lol I feel your pain

[@Ian-wi8je]

love u

[@rcpclassic]

Love u 2

[@Muffnman007]

Also no self respecting mage ever casts dragon's breath for aoe except in the case of fishing for impact procs

[@Deathbytrudeau]

Fire mages dont respect themselves

[@Muffnman007]

@@Deathbytrudeau Flavour of the month fire mages maybe. Real Mage mains do

[@NickWebb-lc6ry]

The talents are wrong but ok...

[@behnamleysi2232]

It's worthless without details

[@rcpclassic]

some people like recount

[@OmarM42]

This guide is pretty useless without the most important factor mentioned. Macros. If you followed this guide and are still last in DPS, it's because of Macros.

[@MsAAAAAA222]

the aoe portion of the guide is wrong you wouldnt cast 3x living bomb youd cast one nad get a fireblast proc to spread them

[@rcpclassic]

Yeah but like what if you don't get an impact proc? Zero dam. -Zax

[@shotgunammo]

In aoe you WILL have a proc because your blast wave/flamestrike practically make it extremely easy to get an impact proc, never spend 3 globals placing living bombs unless all 3 targets are spread away fro. Eachother

[@khmarabroona]

yes very true i just precast pyro > living bomb > blast wave (usually have an impact proc by now) then fire blast to spread dots. Then you can db/flamestrike if mobs are close to dying or you can scorch and fish for some more pyros/ignites to spread to the rest of the pack.

[@nxgmoney173]

I do this as well…the fireblast proc will also spread the living bomb but only the duration of time that is left on the original bomb target…basically gives you all that time for living bomb to explode to allow you to get the fireblast proc