Firearms Expert Reacts To Destiny 2: Lightfall Guns

[@XenosInfinity]

It's probably worth mentioning for the Senuna that it's made by a company who use liquid ammunition for their guns - it's somewhere between a water pistol and an extremely misused 3D printer. Hence the "Fluid Dynamics" buff popping up in the corner, which is their manufacturer trait.

[@صهيبسالم-ي5م]

Omolon?

[@hudzj01]

It’s Omolon

[@XenosInfinity]

The name doesn't mean anything to anyone who doesn't already play the game. I didn't think it was important to include it.

[@crimsonv4670]

@@XenosInfinity imean, i would expect fans of the game who just started would find it usefull to include.

[@biohazard724]

"extremely misused 3d printer" is the best description of Omolon 😆

[@jet6283]

about the basso ostinato shotgun on 14:34 , the ingame lore literally states that we cannot leave the old pump-action model behind because its too reliable and jonathan mentioning that without even knowing about it makes it such a true statement

[@willl5659]

Ahh great observation!

[@cainprescott4937]

The name being a reference to a musical term also sorta fits with the general... rhythm of using a pump-action. Pull the trigger, pull back the pump, slam it forwards, repeat until empty.

[@Kazuhira2249]

the ol reliable

[@Lorentz_Driver]

AKA lore to explain why Bungie is too lazy to make another shotgun animation

[@oliveoil2549]

​@@Lorentz_Driver *Conditional Finality has entered the chat*

[@thegloriouskingkronk8422]

The first Autorifle, Perpetualis, has strings on it because it's meant to function as a musical instrument of some kind. All the Lost/Defiant weapons have this

[@thif4722]

The string instrument feature is not without reason. These weapons were made to fight against Savathun, an enchantress witch that uses her ''song'' to control people.

[@Asturjgm]

Glad to see an explanation on why the season pass bow has tuners, really cool concept also tying to season of the lost weapons having some sort of "rythm" or musicality to them (e.g. wolftone draw)

[@angelousmortis8041]

Plus, I imagine it has something to do with Awoken Magic.

[@azraelzero]

Explains why the Verglas Curve looks like a double-sided ice banjo.

[@vipset87]

I've learned more about destiny lore from the comment section than the actual game itself. Btw I jus reshaped my perpetualis at lvl 17. Lot of grind but I'm happy

[@arcadeinvader8086]

the quicksilver storm is named as such because it uses some sort of liquid metal nanite fluid as ammunition. You can actually see it in the top of the gun slowly depleting as you fire it, and spiking out like it's been magnetized when you switch into grenade launcher mode

[@wolffang-vz2ty]

its nanomachines son! the gun uses the super advanced nanites of neomuna

[@jammyweegit1144]

I love that Jonathan basically recreated the lore tab for the gun, where Elsie is trying to figure out how the gun works based on her knowledge of existing mechanisms and being ultimately baffled.

[@mehphala9184]

As well as sprouting out the side when the rockets fire

[@Lorentz_Driver]

And yet it still uses a straight pull mag.

[@wolffang-vz2ty]

@@Lorentz_Driver where do you think the nanites get the material?

[@Gazooka]

One cool thing bungie has with hand cannons (works with other weapons too) is if you’re using a controller if you squeeze the trigger slowly the hammer comes back and cylinder rotates.

[@GremlinSciences]

It actually works in a lot of games from other developers as well, just about every game developed with consoles as the intended platform will incorporate similar details. CoD CW was actually really cool in that regard because if you were using a PS5 controller then not only could you watch as your character slowly pulled the trigger but you could actually feel the weight of the trigger, I'm not sure if the feature made it to PC but it worked on XB1 if you managed to pair a PS5 controller to your console and fix Sony's wonky layout.

[@JFTSwiertz]

​@@GremlinSciences how did you manage to connect a ps5 controller to an Xbox?

[@GremlinSciences]

@@JFTSwiertz Three methods, in order of sketchiness: -Cloud/remote play and put up with the network latency -Tamper with the firmware to rewrite the USB connection details -Use an adapter device such as Xim or Cronus

[@gwoody4003]

The Jakobs weapons in Borderlands 3 feel like a real double-action trigger pull with the PS5 controller.

[@felixtimmons6252]

When Johnathan mentions that the cylinder on the trust hand cannon doesn’t actually turn, it is a graphical limitation because of the sheer rate of fire you get from this arguably fantastic hand cannon. I don’t know what platform the footage was captured on but if you use a gamepad and ease the trigger down you can watch as the cylinder fully rotates into position and the hammer comes all the way back to provide the right amount of thwackage to fire the gun. Now it doesn’t provide any increase to accuracy or stability which would be fantastic for bungie to work on, but it is a neat little nod to the proper function of a revolver style weapon

[@jdiabl035]

Underrated take, most folks don’t know this about hand cannons good call

[@Halo916_]

It’s PC, you can tell by the placement of the Reticle being in the dead center of the screen. Console has the reticle lower on the screen

[@MrINGSOC225]

It's on PC, there is a press E to interaction during the burst pistol clip. That lack of a half press has always been an unfortunate side effect of a keyboard.

[@templar804]

You can do this on PC if you plug in a controller. The first time I heard about this I tried it out, worked just fine.

[@cykeok3525]

It's possible that the frame rate of the recorded video presented to Jonathan made the full range of motion of the hammer, and the rotation of the cylinder, imperceptible.

[@cashusbucks]

My favorite thing about these is every Destiny community member coming in to explain the weird quirks the weapons have. Banshee would be proud.

[@frozenfreehand1997]

Banshee and Johnathan would get along very well

[@cashusbucks]

@@frozenfreehand1997 Indeed

[@amazingcmanps4gamer941]

​@@frozenfreehand1997 we need Bungie to bring Jonathan in as a character at least for a season. Could have the season based around making weapons. Possibly to fight The Witness.

[@NightmareCo666]

​@@amazingcmanps4gamer941 black armoury high priest Johnathon!

[@realtlt]

Welp, I doubt Banshee would even remember who is Jonathan and why he is talking with a pre gold era guy

[@wyattwilliams9087]

13:13 "if you squint, there are F2000 vibes to this" The XM8: "WHAT THE FU-"

[@1IGG]

Yeah, it super reminded me of the XM8 immediately.

[@LEGOEPIC1]

the stock was saying SCAR to me at first, but then I noticed the curved carry handle poking out from the beluga shell and came to the same conclusion

[@jonnydurrant4189]

Yeah, screams XM8, a rare miss from Mr Ferguson

[@hjm9586]

Thank you

[@chibimeese8301]

i thought of it as an XM8 mixed with a nerf gun mixed with the pulse rifle from alien

[@Autonate_42]

Are we finally about to see Jonathan react to the titanfall weapons. I really want to see his thoughts on the 40mm cannon, or the thermite launcher.

[@codmanout9861]

I would certainly hope so, since they showed the game in the intro. And I'm sorry, Apex really doesn't count. A fair number of guns work differently between the 2 games, and I want to see the anti-titan and titan weapons

[@adammoore8203]

Nathan I don't want to see that, as it will break my heart that we will never have another Titanfall 😢😅

[@SSD_Penumbra]

I always loved how Destiny's weapons all signify that they are different in the sense that they come from different foundries or places. The Round Robin HC, Quicksilver AR, Basso shotgun and Deterministic MG all come from Neomuna, a settlement on Neptune that came from the moon called the Ishtar Collective. The HC and shotgun as shown are identical to those found on the moon in-game, albiet with the Cyberpunk-ish feel and less of the "artefacts used to ward off ghosts" from the Moon weapons. The Quicksilver and Deterministic were created for the Cloudstriders, who are biomechanical inhabitants of Neomuna. In almost the complete antithesis of this, are the Drifter's weapons, which have existed since the collapse of Earth in Destiny's lore. They are called "Dark Age" weapons and they all resemble real-world weaponry, like the old Breakneck gambit rifle looking like a mixture of an AK and a Ruger Mini 14, the Trust resembling a Colt SA revolver/Colt Navy or the Gambit shotgun, that resembles a modern day pump action shotgun, with gunmetal grey and wooden stocks.

[@HajileMalach]

The Ishtar Collective is from Venus just as an FYI, not the moon.

[@cataposs]

this ^, and also that the Cloudstriders aren't just the inhabitants of Neomuna: They're the heavily-augmented protectors of the city. Everyone else is normal, just in cryo

[@phoenixmercurous884]

It could be fun to see the Royal Armouries Team's reactions to Warframe's weapons, both ranged and melee. From what I remember, some of them are almost reasonable weapons while others are completely off the wall insane.

[@wolffang-vz2ty]

it all depends on where the weapon comes from as some of them aren't really "guns" but creatures you've somehow trained to attack what you point them at when you tell them to

[@slipinoy]

One of them is the literal ribbon gun

[@TugaAvenger]

A few recommendations: - Plinx - Arca Plasmor (perhaps Tenet) - Ogris with UT skin - Proboscis Cernos - Astilla Prime - Nukor - Corufell - Phenmor (if they show him the lore) - Tenet Diplos - Hek - Simulor - Miter - Epitaph And of course, the Corinth. Because we absolutely do need pump actions in space.

[@jasutinborchert4418]

May I add: the Soma with its 300rpm fire rate

[@burning_mat5307]

Kuva Bhramma

[@coitusergosum2447]

Never played Destiny, but that Quicksilver gun feels like it was designed by someone who used to imagine that their hotglue gun in DT Class was a fancy space gun, and would use the glue rods to reload it. I love it

[@darkcheshireking]

try it...the gunplay is by far and away the best in the videogame industry

[@calus_bath_water]

I hate destiny dont play it, it's my favorite game.

[@Generalofthexianzhoualliance]

Quicksilver shoots nano machines that harden to cause physical Trauma

[@Skippydogo]

Love when they hand Johnathan something literally made of magic.

[@andrethesergal1977]

the next time you do this, you NEED to show him a slow trigger pull on the hand-cannons (use a controller and slowly pull the analogue trigger), just so he can see the full hammer and cylinder animation.

[@Awoken_Remmuz]

Lovely to see Jonathan back to watching some more tools of guardians. The more I see these videos the more obvious it is he'd prefer the Omolon foundry over all others the last city has.

[@TheAHuman]

I would think he would like Hakke given they make the most “normal” firearms.

[@Awoken_Remmuz]

@@TheAHuman true, tho he seems to get annoyed when sci-fi clings to hard to contemporary gun design.

[@GremlinSciences]

@@TheAHuman Hakke has realistic designs, but I wouldn't say that they're necessarily any more realistic than Omolon's. Omolon mostly makes energy weapons, which means they aren't bound by the same mechanical constraints as Hakke's slug-throwers, but they still take heavy inspiration from real guns like the K10 Vector and PDW-R.

[@luigithewaddledee]

​@@TheAHuman Or Tex Machina with them being based on older golden age weapons lost after the collapse

[@codmanout9861]

I know it isn't a gun, but if they do another Destiny episode, I would love to see Jonathan's or one of his more archery themed associate's reaction to the Leviathan heavy bow. I mean, it's a plated compound bow with half inch thick steel cable for a bow string and arrows that are basically small ballista bolts.

[@Emrirwastaken]

Not a steel cable, a full chain

[@freedragoons]

Not to mention the wall that is Heirarchy that somehow functions

[@TorunSmokVT]

@@Emrirwastaken you're actually both right. its a chain and what looks like vehicular suspensions for the majority of its compound draw, and then a steel cable in the middle where you nock the arrows

[@FEDsShotMOM]

Heh trinity ghoul

[@zJoriz]

I feel like Jonathan has finally descended all the stages of grief and ended up at acceptance.

[@Serene0921]

The hammer and cylinder on the Hand-Cannons do actually move, on PC (where most of these clips come from), the motion is too fast for the screen to see, however if you look at clips from console, you can see that the hammer and cylinder move as you pull the trigger. Just thought it should be something I should mention

[@luckhanh2549]

It is because controller have analog trigger that the game can use to make the hammer move, while on pc a mouse click is digital so it just can't do it.

[@Serene0921]

@@luckhanh2549 ight

[@bannedmann4469]

​@@luckhanh2549 Yet another reason to avoid that version.

[@luckhanh2549]

@@bannedmann4469 not sure why you hate pc version but if you plug a controller on pc version it does the same thing

[@brawler5760]

@@bannedmann4469 Plug a controller into a PC and boom you’re good to go.

[@EASasayaki]

Fun fact about any of the weapons labeled "Omolon" on them, they apparently function off of a "liquid ammo" kinda thing. "Exotic Polymers" as the first gun to introduce this described it all the way back in the original Destiny. If I remember correctly, Suros was all about "Form AND Function", so they all look more smooth, rounded even. Hakke is the one foundry most likely to look like real weapons, since they're just about all function. And then they got a whole bunch of random other small foundries that are either given their own marks or you just gotta know what to look for, like Crux Lomarr.

[@dougcarey2233]

This guy is such a good sport. I like that he's obviously having fun analyzing some of these designs.

[@Roadiedave]

In the game, Omlon is a weapons company that specialized in fluid ammunition. Those little tanks on the front of the 3-round burst style handgun are actually the magazine. Some of the larger Omlon weapons have visible tanks in their designs. Fun fact, the origin trait given to all Omlon weapons is "Fluid Dynamics" which provides more stable shots at the beginning of the magazine. This is because the ammo starts to slosh around when more air is in the mag.

[@TheEDFLegacy]

I wish more channels had awesome long-term collaborations like this. I love how Jonathan can do what he loves, yet also do something really special with a completely special entity, such as Gamespot in this case. I'm sure there's also a monetary agreement as well, which is even better for the Royal Armouries. At least, I hope there is.

[@optumis1433]

For Quicksilver storm, I’m surprised he didn’t talk about the grenade launcher mode

[@hey_its_travis]

Kept waiting for it

[@justinmcwilliams6759]

When I was in the Navy in '99 - '04, we used what looked like an M79 but had polymer furniture and used elevation ladder sights mounted further back on the weapon. It was a single shot break open weapon and sadly since it's been 19 years since i left active duty, I cannot remember the model or manufacturer. Still had the same sound that gave the M79 the nickname "Blooper". (It's sound is something like THOOMP..........*BOOM*)

[@knite_lite]

You know what's crazy, just this dude who understands firearms commenting on guns from a video game and it makes good content. He doesn't shut down the idea of the unorthodox guns but rather kinda let's it play out and he explores it a little bit which I think is pretty awesome.

[@eiriklarsen4608]

On Trust (the hand cannon) if you play on controller you can half squeeze the trigger, showing the hammer move back and cylinder rotate

[@fire_man3173]

actually, I believe you can do that with all revolvers.

[@stevemc6010]

It's been a feature since Destiny 2014

[@WorkInProgressX]

@@fire_man3173 yes you can

[@DragonCraft07]

It’s so interesting hearing the part about why historically grenade launchers where bounced to be less lethal, and the one in game is a blinding GL and less lethal than the other ones!

[@QuintonMurdock]

YEEEES NAMELESS MIDNIGHT. I was there from the start and I was there when this was THE gun. Oh that sound. It’s been so many years..

[@mitcheldenhartog1886]

Big fan of the Destiny gun reviews and reacts. Really would love to see another video reacting to the Exotic guns again

[@shadyone6620]

About Battle Scar - there are lots of Destiny year 1 scout & pulse rifles that have their magazines far behind the actual chamber and lock.

[@DonoZ420]

It’s shows up as strand gun when it’s not

[@PMMeCuteBugPhotos]

I actually read an article that raises a very interesting point about how revolvers might in fact be the best gun for peacekeeping in space. Particulary a silenced revolver with a gas sealing system like nagants. No automatic ejection and being able to be operated with one hand are of major importance as the last thing you want in space is spent casings flying around the cabin, while you also need a free hand to brace yourself in a lack of gravity. Add in on top of that that a space gun would need a very high degree of heat tolerance and such, and the very simple mechanism of a revolver makes it a very attractive choice. Just make sure to pack subsonic rounds if you plan to shoot inside.

[@Zyguard_101]

The trusts’ hammer and cylinder do actually move I was bored one day and started feathering the trigger on my controller and I thought it was a really neat detail

[@ChipClipGotGrip]

Always love seeing destiny coverage from Jonathan

[@Vinylshark]

I'm suprised that he didn't mention the HK XM8 when reviewing the Coronach-22 Auto Rifle, because the front does look a lot like an XM8 with an extra housing around it to beef it up in width.

[@gamerprodigy107]

Please do more of this. Destiny 2 has SOO many unique guns.

[@stuffandthings617]

About the grenade launcher. As most of those smaller grenade launchers (like the roaring lion which was in another video) those bouncing Grenades have some kind of trigger, when they are shot and the trigger is hold they don't explode for some time but as soon as you let go of the trigger the grenade explodes. Also the reload only starts after the grenade exploded. If you shoot and let the trigger go instandly it only flies a set amount of time until it explodes.

[@typhoon37351]

An interesting fact about Omolon weapons that has most likely already been mentioned- They actually use a liquid polymer as ammo. Literally the worlds deadliest squirt guns.

[@taxablefur9653]

1:14 That's exactly why the bullets leave trails lol

[@otbc1999]

Do every cod zombies wonder weapons. I'd love to see Jonathon's take on them 😁

[@Iwilleaturbabieslad]

Definitely should

[@TheAHuman]

Sadly that wouldn’t work, most of them are 115 and don’t even work like a gun.

[@mr.randomperson9900]

@@TheAHuman he literally did a video on Splatoon. I don’t think wonder weapons are gonna be to hard.

[@titan1umtitan]

@@TheAHuman He's reviewed guns that don't even function similarly to guns. Omolon's fire liquid, quicksilver does the same. Cloudstrike (which he reviewed in a previous video) is just a magic stick.

[@wh8787]

The Russians developed some bouncing fragmentation grenades I believe for the GP-25/30 launchers, I think so they can be launched into windows and then bounce into rooms before detonating. I have no idea how useful this actually is.

[@DefinitelyEllie]

I think for Destiny you should focus on the Foundry types, looking at the design types between weapons classes. And exotics getting their own part.

[@thecrimsoncommando3875]

Yes to the foundries, and I think GameSpot has already 2(?) exotic videos.

[@crowstray]

Tex Mechanica and Hakke for sure!

[@friedtoads13]

@@crowstray hakke tends to get the short end of the stick most the time, but they've always been my favorite.

[@thecrimsoncommando3875]

@@friedtoads13 From best to worst, it's been Hakke, Veist, Suros, then Omolon. Omolon always felt weak compared to the others, and Suros gets edged out because Veist has the better origin trait.

[@zyriathegreat6509]

​@@thecrimsoncommando3875 D2 year 1 Uriel's Gift says your opinion is wrong

[@satoruriolu6132]

I believe the Coronach-22 at 12:47 is a mix between the XM8 chasis design with that ridge at the front with the chonkiness of a F2000

[@xGamermonkeyx]

I'm still on the Killzone train, I'd desperately love to see Johnathan react to the weapons in that series. Oh and you guys gotta check out Hotdogs, Horseshoes and Hand Grenades again, there's so many new weapons and there has just been a huge overhaul of the AR15 series of rifles in the game!

[@dtps_champion6016]

The host did a good job not being too snobby about what would really work. Nice episode. Do more destiny

[@outbreakperfected5704]

Thank you someone else who got a little annoyed from the other times he did destiny and was snobbish when it isn’t meant to be realistic

[@Halosniper-zk5ro]

When Jonathan mentioned he noticed f2000 in the suros rifle, I noticed a partial design of the XM8 rifle. Does anyone else see it?

[@LightCrib2]

Him looking at the Servant Leader scout rifle would be torture for him

[@AE1OU]

Jonathan, made a video on *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* weapons. So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone. There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video for the game.

[@thomasb1521]

Hold on, is he sitting in front of a WALL OF EM-2'S That's a flex

[@stein_the_lynx3284]

i noticed something recently with hand cannons in destiny while playing with a friends where if you have a sword out and position your camera just right while your friend has a hand cannon out you can clip the camera inside the chamber of the hand cannon and see that the big cylinders that you put into the hand cannon are just funky speed loaders that have individual rounds inside of the larger shell

[@swanky2202]

Would like to have him do another dive into KF2 guns, but this time the more realistic stuff. And also showing stuff like different reload animations for different classes and perk choices / slow mo animations.

[@Golem-9]

Now we need to see him take a look at the more conventional foundry designs from hakke and whatnot

[@illusiveelk2558]

The hand cannons in destiny do actually have rotating Chambers. There's supposed to rotate with the trigger pull, but pulling the trigger too fast results in them appearing not to rotate.

[@raistlinspringfield5577]

First time seen Mr. Ferguson in the War Factory documentary, and I was totally fascinated by his explanations on guns. It's both surprising and impressive to see him comment on fantasy Destiny 2 guns!

[@WorldBridger70]

The Coronach-22 at 12:47 reminds me of the Pulse Rifle from Aliens but rounded and slim mixed with something I can't remember -- some video game assault rifle that had a very smooth curve to the carry handle sight.

[@_Chimaera_]

The XM8

[@WorldBridger70]

@@_Chimaera_ Thank you

[@_Chimaera_]

@@WorldBridger70 all good

[@scyrra9908]

Interesting fact about D2 handcannons: if you're playing on a controller with analog triggers if you pull the trigger back slowly you can see the hammer pull back before firing

[@SaturnianDragon]

I'm kind of surprised Jonathan didn't catch the XM8 resemblance on the Coronach-22

[@JB-nw1lc]

Metal Gear Solid 1, 2 and 3. There's alot of weapon detail in all 3. And I'd love to see Jonathan's take on Big Boss' M1911A1 gush.

[@t4nkychannel921]

Might I ask Johnathan to review the guns from FEAR? I think the Penetrator and repeating cannon would be the most interesting for him to talk about. The Repeating Cannon is almost like a Neopup/Inkunzi PAW or a man-portable Mk 19. The Penatrator is simply hilarious in how it staples people to walls.

[@TheWandererGhost]

i am still waiting for his rection to the Thorn and how the "bullets" are shaped like

[@inoob26]

Someone get this man a good quality camera already, he deserves one

[@birchouse]

I'd like to see Jonathan revisit Battlefield 2042. They have added some interesting near future weapons recently.

[@benbutz4900]

the cylinder on the cannon does rotate brother, just gotta pull it nice and slow to see. trust.

[@Mark___Zuckerberg]

I think it’s worth pointing out that for the trust handcannon the cylinder and hammer does move, and you can see it happening when playing on a controller. Since the trigger on the controller allows for a half pull you can see it in action, where as on a PC you won’t be able to see it because it’s a single button. This also happens with every other hand cannon in the game.

[@LichtJackal]

Fun fact about the Hammer on revolvers in destiny When you push the fireing Button on Controller slowly the Hammer pulls back. Its only when you reppid fire it that the Hammer doesn't move. I guess it was done to save animation time because you wouldnt be able to Spot it while reppidfiring and moving. Why the did it that the Hammer doesnt move by Single shot with fast push i can only guess. I think its to provent problems with animation lenght and detaction when the game has to switch animation.

[@mop4232]

Our boy sitting in front of a wall of em2's. This is literally Jonathan's happy place.

[@CruiserToneFan]

the break action grenade launcher has special grenades that are unique to almost all break-action grenade launchers in Destiny 2, and that is that the grenades are controlled by the user, so if you hold the trigger it will fire the grenade, but it wont explode unless it hits something, or if you have a launcher with proximity grenades, they wont explode until they get a certain distance away from an enemy

[@Taintedmini]

The Coronach-22 @13:02 to me screams H&K XM8 in spaaaaace more than an F2000. With the swooping line of the XM8 top handle and general shape.

[@hopintheroflcopter]

I'm surprised he didn't pick up the XM8 design cues on the Coronach-22

[@herny2991]

Funny that, in looking for something that resembles the flash and thunder, he pulled out the spitting image of another weapon from Destiny called the Witherhoard :) 7:48

[@luvCrue88]

Someone should fill Jonathan in on the ammunition types in Destiny. That would really give him a headache. We have: Traditional kinetic projectiles. Incendiary rounds Electricity, like the firearm is a weaponized tesla coil. "Purple lasers" aka ammunition that manipulates gravitational effects. Guns that shoot ice cubes. And finally, the new kids on the block, guns that shoot strings.

[@quincypham2283]

12:00 The cylinder does rotate, the animation can be scene when using a controller instead of a mouse. Try pulling the trigger SLOWLY on the controller and you can see not only the cylinder rotating, but also the hammer pulling slowly back as well. Heck, you can see the same action happen with most of the hand-cannons in the game so far.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

On top of his title, I'm a bit jealous of all the rifles behind jonathan. He has a whole rack full of things I'll never get to touch, let alone own, just casually organized behind him.

[@The_Ragequit_Cannon]

So about cylinder rotation on Trust: all handcannons in Destiny 2 at least have a feature where if you slowly pull the trigger, you can see the hammer pulling back and the cylinder rotating. I guess most people wouldn't notice that in this game though with how much it can have going on at any time

[@yuuki2467]

Still waiting for the Destiny Hakke reaction. The most normal/modern looking weapons

[@Dedtoo]

I feel like it'd almost be too little for him to go on, yet I'd love to see Jonathan's take on some of the stranger guns from Enter the Gungeon!

[@GrimViridian]

Ah yes my favorite, the shotgun shell that shoots shotguns XD

[@thuanducluu1371]

13:10 I just realized this gun model was based on the H&K XM8 gun. Love the sci-fi design of the real world counter part

[@elizabethrdaniels]

When Jonathon mentions (11:49) the Trust Hand Cannon's cylinder not actually revolving - this was I'm assuming capture on PC? If you lightly hold in an analogue trigger you'll see the cylinder slowly turn and the hammer pull back.

[@Alcatrazrezz]

The one you thought looked like an f2000 i got more xm8 vibes

[@ranboohusband2927]

The cylinder of the trust hand canon does revolve but it can be hard to see, I know this because I actively play destiny 2 and run that weapon in my load out often

[@cammo353]

I like how this series is revealing that since a lot of the people using the guns in the game are effectively immortal 90% of the time, gunsmiths have a lot more fun with the aesthetics and vibe of a weapon than pure functionality

[@shiraori5450]

Would have loved to see Johnathan comment on Finality

[@deejaydragon8909]

The Coronach-22 bares more than a passing resemblance to the H&K XM8. I'm surprised Jonathan didn't pick up on that!

[@FoxkinProductions]

If you decide to do more weapon reviews for destiny I would recommend for the exotic weapon specifically to look at the perks that it has as it could give you more context on what the weapon actually does

[@Jack_Frost526]

For Trust (and all hand cannons) on console you can lightly press the trigger and see the hammer cocking back and the cylinder rotating, it's just not shown on MnK because it's much faster

[@atheontimesconflux1067]

Quick rundown for you: Omolon is a company that specializes in Liquid Ammo (basically a glorified pressure washer) Suros specializes in ease-of-use, hence why all their guns look so simple. HAKKÉ is all about stopping power, and that’s why they are the high damage weapons. VEIST is about speed and precision, hence why they are usually high RPM weapons

[@everstray7482]

Surprised Jonathan didnt mention how when you reload the quicksilver, you can see the barrel of the gun form. I believe the quicksliver uses nano tech, and basically the nano machines form up and act like a fluid in the frame of the gun, and form the bullets, micro missiles, and grenades as you pull the trigger. Pretty crazy.

[@luke1119411]

12:50 I'm surprised that the XM8 wasn't mentioned. That's what I immediately thought of at least.

[@perfectedanarchy]

for nameless midnight, the release catch is right in front of the mag, and it seems like the user smacks it as they slide their hand down to grab another mag.

[@LupinOfForossa]

about hand cannons, the hammer does actually move, you just need an actual trigger pull input, like on a controller. mouse clicks skip the double action feature and make them appear semi auto

[@BearClawTN]

The Coronach reminds me of the Heckler & Koch XM8 proto type with a dash of the H&K XM25.

[@rickimaru915]

I’d love to see Jonathan try to get his head around the wacky guns of Returnal

[@logruszed]

Jon: You've talked about the future of aiming devices moving to a more holographic reticle or integrated with HUD systems. But do you think the future also loses "charging handles" as we see them now? Evolving into some system where not only is ammunition caseless but magazines are so waste free as to be not worth recovering and "self" loading or self charging?

[@stevemc6010]

There's a bunch of wood and steel AK bullpup looking guns in Destiny, hope to see those more like the one in this video

[@legendofsirus1259]

The front end of the coronach rifle reminds me of the xm8. First thing I noticed on it

[@TheMrMayo]

I wish I could reach out to Mr. Ferguson directly to ask him some honest questions pertaining to his viewpoint on the weapons he's studied/learned, because I would love to hear more of his thoughts on how some of these weapons from games he's reviewed have changed his perspective a little. Rather, I'd love to learn more from his direct perspective other than through these videos. It's both entertaining and educational in a way!

[@CrazyIvan2X]

13:28 I don't see F2000 but I do see a lot of XM8 in there

[@Robo_Banana]

If I remember correctly, a lot of the hand cannon type weapons dont load bullets but instead load a battery or container of some kind full of glimmer. Glimmer is described in game as programmable matter used for fuel and bullets and currency and other things, so the non-spinning cyllinder likely isnt an issue from an in universe standpoint. Granted my destiny info is extremely dated back from the first game, not sure if things have changed since or if my memory is wrong.

[@brawler5760]

The cylinder actually does move, and so does the hammer. However that can only be seen if you’re using a controller.

[@reidhanson4755]

"It's been taken beyond the realms of science fiction" Shows dude killing Taken... lol. A+ editing

[@bixandzak]

I would love to see Jonathan's thoughts on the Khvostov 7G-02, Sturm & Drang, Forerunner, and the Western Front Monte Carlo.

[@starrk7158]

Enjoyable watch, I look forward to more videos.