Fireproof | Say MovieNight Kevin

[@ergogrrl]

Honestly, the part where KC loses it and starts screaming at his wife is effective, but not in the way he intended. It’s a pretty realistic portrayal of how abusive people (men and women) verbally explode at their spouses to intimidate them. And if your partner beats the (language) out of a garbage can after getting in your face and screaming, there’s a good chance they’ll use you as the punching bag during future tantrums. KC’s behavior isn’t “good guy who got frustrated,” it’s abusive.

[@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322]

Exactly, it is not normal to put holes in the wall or destroy things because you’re mad. Learn to be an adult. Use your words, breath, communicate.

[@PresbianTier]

@@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322 duh

[@vidhead85]

Exactly! I said: In a regular movie or an afterschool special, the next scene she'd be applying make up to cover a black eye

[@harrypotteryescaillouno45]

Even Cartman's advice on how to yell at a female is more convincing.

[@TheShorterKatechism]

Noticing a pattern with Kendrik Bros. movies where the man expresses his anger through hitting things.... Also the classic 'fight stance and "Excuse me?!"' response to correction...

[@jimmeyer4079]

I like how he and his dad have accents that suggest they've never lived anywhere near each other.

[@tintinismybelgian]

Plot Twist: Adult Adoption.

[@imgreasy3684]

By the way, Kevin, I looked it up, and a hose stretcher is another word for a rookie in the fire service. No worries.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

Oh good. It sounded like something else.

[@imgreasy3684]

It does, doesn't it? XD

[@johnpaulsmajda]

hose stretcher is an imaginary piece of equipment you tell a rookie to go get. We have the same joke in the production industry, "a cable stretcher". There is no such thing, and it will never be invented because it would damage the hose/cable. Its kind of like telling a new employee to go get something out of "the attic" or "basement" when there is no attic or basement.

[@s.orwoll3814]

Yeah they did the same thing to my brother when he started, but actually thanks to this movie he knew what it was lol 😅

[@ChristaSmithCartoonist]

If she was TRULY Southern, she wouldn't have to even ask if they had sweet tea. There's ALWAYS sweet tea.

[@imgreasy3684]

You speak the truth, friend.

[@MysticalSelah]

Yes. It’s an unspoken rule.

[@luthientinuviel3883]

I am from WI and when we went down south my mom went on and on about sweet tea. I tried it and was amazed.

[@matthewkoch6937]

Sweet tea and coffee. It just is always in the house.

[@BlackLivesMatter23]

Very extremely true

[@CelestialSushi]

25:41 "There's no real popcorn in here, it's just a prop." Ah, propcorn

[@SuperSwordman1]

I love eating propcorn with my proptarts

[@jokerman9623]

let's make a film about pornography but let's water it down so much that the message is treated like a kid's show

[@gerjerry99]

Gotta get that +4 content rating on MovieGuide and make it accessible for the entire Christian family 😂

[@MrMattSax]

Seems more like a movie about money, not pornography

[@jacindaellison3363]

They can show a porn pop ad, but refuse to their actors say porn?

[@youngknight5589]

"I want to marry daddy when I grow up" 😂

[@imgreasy3684]

+Young Knight I was like "What does this random thing have to do with this movie?"

[@youngknight5589]

+Happy Mask Salesman I died when he explained his story of the song, I was weirded out when i heard those lyrics

[@imgreasy3684]

Young Knight R.I.P. *Error 404 Original Joke not Found*

[@youngknight5589]

+Happy Mask Salesman awe

[@lcrawpuppyable]

The equivalent to the modern day would be the little girl then saying, "If dad's 34, I'm 34 ; D"

[@nielnielsen4822]

His computer is still 15 years in the past.

[@AdlerDavidson]

I dislike it when Christians try to commodify things like marriage, because things like that can't be magically fixed by a 40 day tutorial book. I think in several instances, we like to take control of things and then slap God's name on it so we feel like we're doing the right thing, when we're actually doing the exact opposite. Great review. Made me think.

[@ashlynthomas7003]

Adler true that marriage can't magically be fixed in 40 days, but I still think a joint checking account might have helped...

[@YophiSmith]

Adler Davidson That’s like saying humanity can’t be saved by one man’s blood.

[@matthewkoch6937]

So true, the idea that very bad marriages should always "work it out" is a pure fantasy. The husband's character is extremely selfish and emotionally abusive, so they have two options: marriage counseling or divorce. Notice how they take neither route, and the wife gets treated like property instead of an equal partner.

[@Musicalowl12]

I just remarked to a friend recently how we always seem to want a formula for things rather than a relationship. The Israelites wanted a king to tell them what to do rather than a relationship with God. The Pharisees focused so heavily on the law, they missed the relationship with God, that Jesus was presenting. Today, the church has all kinds of books giving us a formula for things. I think that's why some things in the Bible are spelled out and others are more vague. It's because God doesn't want us to get caught up in formulas for righteousness, and instead, rely on Him for guidance in. every situation. He knows we will mess up and that's where grace comes in.

[@hahstudios2753]

@@Musicalowl12I know this is 3 years old but great comment!

[@joshuaokoro-sokoh2993]

13:03 And that is the day I grabbed Kirk Cameron's character by the ears and said, "That is your mother, you are going to treat her with the same respect that you treat your father if not more. UNDERSTAND!!!??"

[@spazzyshortgirl23]

"YOU DISRESPECTFUL...WOMAN" right...woman....we knew what you meant Kirk--just keepin' it PG here.

[@fredjones2170]

Yeah, he was obviously going to say "jerk".

[@thefirstbourne149]

+Fred Jones No, he was clearly going to say, "nagger". What? Not a bad suggestion. He did just say she was “nagging" him...

[@asmrcity3147]

YOU DISRESPECTFUL...WITCH!!!

[@melissacooper4482]

I figured he was going to say "bitch".

[@lonewolfgamingplus379]

@@melissacooper4482 I was thinking "fucking" lol

[@thomasnorton5047]

the sweet tea line, would have been just "tea" if it was really in the south....

[@lc3207]

A good movie that makes you root for a failing marriage (within the first five minutes!) is Marriage Story. Then, once you're sufficiently in love with the couple, the movie starts breaking down why their marriage is falling apart. Oh, it hurts.

[@OneVisionPro]

YES to the Community clip at 12:40! Pierce: "Agnostic. The lazy mans atheist."

[@saygoodnightkevin]

Love that show!

[@clown-cult96]

Wife: *gets mad at husband for looking at pornography* Also wife: *has an affair*

[@newtoatheism5968]

Yeah you got a point uh Gavin Kathrine is kinda oh what’s that word

[@micahwright5901]

I mean, that’s the point of the movie… they’re both selfish and hypocritical.

[@gabriellagalli8564]

I’m wondering how looking at pornography is bad when you have a partner.

[@SuperSwordman1]

​@gabriellagalli8564 cause Bible. Seriously though, given Kirk's long standing partnership with Ray Comfort, probably something about that whole "whoever looks upon a woman with lust has committed adultery in his heart" thing

[@ThinkMcFly815]

"I don't have time for coffee" "I don't have time for cancer" Man, these atheists! Always in a hurry!

[@aurora78]

We got places to be!!!!

[@aurora78]

Though, I ALWAYS have time for coffee... priorities.

[@1000huzzahs]

+aurora78 right?! me too.

[@imgreasy3684]

Oh, no! Call the Kendrick Brothers!

[@ShainaCilimberg]

Lol

[@TheMadLeprechaun]

Katherine to Caleb: "I hate you." Katherine to Caleb after he spent a lot of money on her: "I love you."

[@AaronTheCrystalClod]

"Yelling means acting" Tell that to the actors in Euphoria. I seriously couldn't handle that show.

[@StaceyGFilms]

There is so little Christian content on KZbin these days, it's awesome to see someone so hilarious and entertaining! Keep up the good work Kevin! God Bless.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

Nigel theDragon Thank you so much! That's really encouraging!

[@JaqV1100]

Kevin deserves more subs and should have a religion about him.

[@Weird_but_neat]

Sir Cockaroach hey, you can make a religion out of this

[@spacemanandy2]

The depiction of his struggle with pornography was complete "trash." He throws his computer out and all of a sudden he's not tempted anymore? He doesn't feel any kind of urge at work or anywhere else? Porn is like any other addiction in that it takes huge amounts of discipline and perseverance to break, just like alcohol or drugs. And once you get addicted, even if you break your addiction you will still have that urge to relapse. They completely downplayed that whole subplot and made it seem like it is a really easy problem to solve, when in truth any addiction is a lifelong battle. That is the main reason I don't like this movie.

[@jayblade2000]

As someone who has had that addiction, you make an exelent point

[@sarahberkner]

You have a point there, although throwing out one's computer (if they don't need it for work which they probably would) isn't a bad start.

[@spacemanandy2]

I would say it would be better to unplug it and put it away in the attic or somewhere hard to get to instead of throwing it away. That way you're not wasting a several hundred dollar investment that has many other uses. But each person has to deal with it in their own way so if that's the only way it works for them, more power to them.

[@ASmith-jn7kf]

As a woman who has struggled, I have had no issues. I think that depends on the person and what they expose themselves to. I think in general sex excites people and I think he was 100% right to throw it out because of her commitment the movie isn't about his struggle but about showing his wife his commitment because she was the one hurting and it hurt their marriage. I prayed that our husband threw out his phone to get that moneky out of our marriage and had he had done that it really would have showed me how serious he was to get it out of our marriage. I also think that some people that are addicted are addicted for different reasons once I got married I saw no use for porn or masturbation even when he rejected me sexually. Jesus said if your right hand causes you to sin cut it off and your right eye, pluck it out for it would be better to enter heaven maimed than be thrown into the fire whole. Porm is the most avoidable thing in life. You can not have a tv and not have an internet connection you do not need such things they are just luxuries instead you choose to have access to things without denying yourself and thinking you are right. WRONG. Any Christian person will struggle as we are all excited by sex and seeing someone have sex but you don't have to fall you can gain self control to fight or you can just avoid it altogether but you choose to fall. I don't understand some Christians, they make a bed with sin it and pray not to fall instead of just denying themselves.

[@spacemanandy2]

Where you do have a valid point in that he could have been trying to show her his commitment to her, this is never addressed in the film. And she was not the only one suffering in the relationship; they both were. They were both missing each other. She was not respecting him at all, and he was completely withdrawn from her. The issue I had with the film is not necessarily that he threw the computer out; that is a small detail. It's that his addiction was very poorly handled in the film. It's almost dishonest how easy it was for him to break it. He never spoke of it to anyone else, and apparently never had another temptation even though he had made a pattern of it. Also, I don't agree with you that you can easily just "deny" yourself from sin. Now taking steps to prevent yourself from falling back into sin is a good idea, but if you were able to just "deny" yourself from sin then why would you need Christ's sacrifice at all? Perhaps in your experience porn is easy to avoid, but I very much disagree. If this is true, then how come at least 70% of men aged 18 to 24 visit sites at least once a month? What about the fact that 1 in 3 of porn viewers are female? It may be easy for you to avoid porn, but that doesn't mean it's the "easiest" in general. I think it is, as you have said yourself, that you do not understand why it is so difficult to break out of.

[@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis]

"I want to marry daddy." What the....

[@petar6363]

Lol, Kevin DOES sort of look like the guy from Blue's Clues.

[@TooTurte]

"Coney Bombs." I LAUGHED SO HARD XD.

[@judierutter8152]

Once again they haven't done more than touch on the complicated issues that devide a couple that loves Jesus. Divorce isn't the worst thing that would happen to someone... abuse is and it comes in many forms.... financial, spiritual, (yet no real acknowledgment or apology there) emotional, mental, sexual, physical.... and no please it's ok to *save yourself and your kids* get out...

[@tzarina-alexandra9211]

tbh the husband was abusive in this movie and yet we were supposed to root for him

[@OrganizedChaos14]

Great review! Now off to look at some trash on the internet. Rumor is the new cans are awesome!

[@saygoodnightkevin]

hahaha.

[@425mandilynn]

Coming from a conservative home, it's utterly refreshing to see that I'm not, in fact, completely crazy for greatly disliking most "Christian" media. You make so many great points. Plus, I think your movie-critique videos are your funniest. (:

[@ShutterAuthority]

hahaha 4:20. You're hilarious, dude!

[@hotrapmix]

I was watching Fireproof and your review at the same time, and they played together perfectly at 12:50, the part where the dad says 40 days.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

+hotrapmix 🔺

[@thefirstbourne149]

+Say Goodnight Kevin I also read through the full frickin' 40 day plan, and you know what? It actually featured an issue I wished these characters would have done the whole time! They could have used it! They never said how far bad they were in to want divorce! It is really so sanitized that we barely get anything to work off of! Why not? Why not just get counseling? If that 40-plan clearly worked so well, then I assume they couple in question never worked through these issues by themselves.

[@Ganulous]

Goodnight, Kevin.

[@MassAwesomeOne]

This is the best part of the show every week.

[@brebytheway]

whenever I see this comment I always think of Fablehaven, tbh. It has a character named Graulas, which seems like a similar name to Ganulous for some reason. xD

[@saygoodnightkevin]

Ganulous Goodnight, Kevin.

[@gFamWeb]

Say Goodnight Kevin Here is a convenient list of suggested movies. 1. Courageous 2. Facing the Giants 3. Christmas with a Capital C 4. Grace Unplugged 5. Last Chance Detectives series 7. Do You Believe? 8. Believe Me 9. To Save a Life 10. New Hope 11. Saving Christmas 12. Me Again Some of my own 1. What If... 2. The Encounter 3. In The Blink of an Eye 4. Left Behind II: Tribulation Force 5. Left Behind (III): World at War

[@benmakestalkies]

***** I remember Courageous being good, though I haven't seen it in a while.

[@Jhimesy]

I like the new format! My brother and his family go to Sherwood. It's nice church that is actually really welcoming to creative people, but...yeah, I agree most of the things you said about the movie. It's very preachy.

[@carlabean3655]

Almost three years later and I still come back to watch this. Seen it about 10 times each time a laugh a little harder. 🙃

[@WoodenFilms]

Courageous was a major step up from Fireproof.

[@WoodenFilms]

muggyfox1 I am not going to say Courageous is perfect though. However, it was a step up and their best film to date. I know their 5th film War Room comes out this year.

[@AdlerDavidson]

I agree. Courageous still had its issues, but it was much more enjoyable.

[@CalLadyQED]

Interesting, I was pleased with Fireproof b/c it was such an improvement over Facing the Giants, but I felt that Courageous was a step backward. Of course, maybe it didn't speak to me as much b/c it was all about fathers (which is someone I'll never be).

[@lonewolfgamingplus379]

It had gun fights.

[@AnthonyRose]

Also, Kevin. I am laughing so hard over here. Please keep this up, its solid, funny, clean and your pop culture references are unexpected and hilarious.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

Anthony Rose Thank you so much! That really means a lot!

[@AnthonyRose]

Say Goodnight Kevin No problem! (P.S. The Hot sauce/Mirror dance guy was one of my pastors here in Florida.)

[@AnthonyRose]

And yes, we poke fun at him a bit, it's all in good taste.

[@jamesofhoenn4790]

It was impressive that you could use Ebony and Ivory in such good context! Haha, that was impressive!

[@hannahofaragon2224]

My friend bought this movie to my eleventh birthday party. We never watched it, and now watching your review and seeing it boggles my mind on why she thought that it was a fun sleepiver flick.

[@Lily.valkyrie]

My favorite hobby is going back to these old videos of Kevin roasting poorly written, overly emotions-based movies that some of my church family loves to endorse :)

[@pokepokefanfan]

anyone notice everything there are black people on a chrtian movie they just say things like MMMhhhmm, or you go girl

[@MicahGreaney]

Is that a joke? The main character's best friend has way more lines than that and he is portrayed as the, "Solid, Biblically grounded Christian friend." Your objection is quite misguided.

[@MicahGreaney]

***** I was actually referring to the original poster. However, you started your statement by saying, "Yeah,..." Which seems to imply you agreed with his thinking. However, your point is well taken.

[@yaboy20071]

lol being a black person I was like "Ahh darn. She could've had a better character than that", but her character was certainly real.

[@imgreasy3684]

+pokepokefanfan You think THAT'S bad, watch Do You Believe. :P

[@SarcyseTiranin]

Their black southerners, it would be weird if they didn't

[@DavidMSchell]

"And once again, Kirk Cameron gets saved." I clapped.

[@danandtab7463]

Nailed it. A movie for this "40 day love challenge" would've worked better if it depicted a marriage worth saving. She comes across as harder to live with than the wife from Flywheel, and he displays a way too unforgettable moment of being physically violent. And of course in Kendrick movie fashion, it all works out because he and he alone repents of his ways and she doesn't have to do a thing.

[@thelibrariansupermanny]

So low budget that they had the same firetruck leaving the firehouse scene more than once? Where have I seen that before? Oh yeah, the show Emergency!

[@johndavid5152]

Michael Bay would be proud

[@TheBlacksuitspider]

My wife and I did enjoy this movie when it came out, but I think it's because we knew it wasn't going to be on par with secular movies. I do agree with you about how Christian movies (and most of the Church) make it seem that once you become a Christian that all of your troubles will go away. That becoming a believer is the answer to everything wrong with your life. That is contrary to what Jesus said though. He said it would be very difficult and we will endure many hardships and troubles by following Him. Keep up the good work Kevin!

[@RiseOfTheKumquat67]

17:11 I would actually love to see the Christian equivalent of Don Jon: a really well told story about a Christian guy who struggles with porn being forced to change his ways when he falls in love with the girl of his dreams. I'd watch it. Hell, if I had any spare money I'd help produce it.

[@katiethehuman99]

Tbh, the best part of this movie was Third Day's music in that one scene. (This was great, Kevin! I was laughing through the whole thing.)

[@MadameSomnambule]

Ah yes, being a born again Christian stops you from being an abusive spouse, because _that_ works. 9_9

[@youngknight5589]

You okay?

[@MadameSomnambule]

Young Knight I'm talking about how the movie shows abuse. How it stops isn't that simple, I don't think. Not sure how else to word it.

[@youngknight5589]

***** oh i think i know what youre talking about yeah its kind of wierd

[@imgreasy3684]

+MadameSomnambule Yay, I'm a Christian now, all my problems are gone and I'm perfect! :D Sorry to break it to you, but that's not how it works, bro. e_e

[@youngknight5589]

yeah you have to work your way through it "have to go through hell to get to paradise"

[@jerome96114]

The best christian movie I saw so far funny enough is a children's movie called "the miracle maker" that basically tels the life of Jesus. However it tells it very well, does some PRETTY creative ways of chnging the animation style whenever parables are told, flashbacks happen, or very dramatic scenes, has in some areas surprsingly unexpected references to history (especially for a chirldens movie) like portraying some of the desicples as Zealots, and overall is just a very good movie.

[@GodGirl1st]

My favorite movie ever.

[@ThomasWilkinsonTomedy]

The sad thing is, all the "comical relief" scenes that Kevin ripped apart.... I laughed at them

[@taylormorris9595]

+Thomas Wilkinson Sadly sir.......I did too.....

[@imgreasy3684]

+Lord Bored-A-Mort They bored me. I'm normally a sucker for bad puns so I can't say jokes don't amuse me, but I didn't feel like any of the "comic relief" in this film was funny. It was boring.

[@Manifestestify]

I actually really love this movie...but this was HILARIOUS!!!!

[@bradleysmith3046]

Two quick points about the "comic relief" scenes with the firemen: 1st, those shots help to break up the more serious/preachy material. 2nd, those shots were designed to show the camaraderie between the firefighters. One of my friends who is a volunteer firefighter (and training to be a professional) has said that he and his co-workers have goofy interactions just like that when they're not on call. So for him, the movie really nailed the sense of being a firefighter. Just my two cents.

[@CalLadyQED]

I agree that they do serve some purpose. However, given how long the whole movie was, perhaps they could have cut these scenes shorter?

[@bradleysmith3046]

***** Perhaps they could have. I don't remember feeling like it was too long, but it has been a while since I've seen it, so it probably would be a good idea to watch it again.

[@ericspencer8093]

Yes, but those scenes are in no way important or necessary to the plot. It's what's called "filler."

[@emm8487]

I was dying of laughter the whole time I watched this, cause everything you said about this movie was SO TRUE!!!!!! Great Job!

[@natalieprice8033]

I love it how he says "Hey... that's the name of the movie!!" every Kendrick's brother's movie =P

[@lilyme3]

Well.... I miss Nostalgia Christian... but at least you introduced me to the brilliance of Nostalgia Critic. :D

[@erqerqghjasfergiejkr]

I love your show!!!! You're doing the same things we do in youth church when me and my friends watch Christian movies LMAO

[@olayamihalik4453]

I remember this movie made me cry as a kid probably because it reminded me of when my parents argued and me being afraid of them getting a divorce. (FYI they didn't) now the movie just seems stupid now that i am older and less naive about the world.

[@laura.l.m]

I've been hoping you would do this one! But I'm surprised THIS is the movie people told you to watch as a shining example of Christian films, haha. For the record though, I heard that origionally there the book didn't even exist and they made a book after the fact because people were asking for it.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

Laura Mizvaria Yeah, I heard that too. It's kinda like Mattel trying to invent a hover board.

[@gFamWeb]

Say Goodnight Kevin Possibly for next time: Courageous(???)

[@saygoodnightkevin]

***** Probably not next. But I'm sure eventually.

[@sarahthompson8098]

holy crap, you are exactly the youtuber I've been looking for.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

Thanks!

[@CouchTfilms]

Awesome video! As always!

[@saygoodnightkevin]

:-D Thanks MAN!!!!!

[@joebro8793]

NOOOOOOO but I loved Nostalgia Christian! Can you at least still say "Jesus died so you don't have too", that was a great catch phrase.

[@kellenorourke2155]

Does anyone think Catherine is just as bad as Gavin but the difference is that he's written and acted in a very stereotypical slimy way, while she's supposed to be the protagonist so that automatically makes her more of a good guy (at least in Kendrick Brothers world)? Think about, as far as I can remember, he doesn't know that Catherine's married until he meets Caleb at the hospital and until she finds out that Caleb paid for her mother's medical equipment, she was leading Gavin on.

[@UnwisePoppy]

I love how high ur production value os

[@saygoodnightkevin]

+Unwise Poppy thanks!

[@OleanderRainbow]

While I believe that marriage can be a good thing for some individuals. I also believe in using common sense before jumping into marriage. And in turn, divorce is a necessary evil so to speak. There are times where divorce can be a good thing. The couple in this movie being a great example! They sound like they only got married just to appease their parents so they won't look bad because they live together while not being married. Basically marriage should never be a bandage for love or relationship stuff. Or gosh forbid appeasing your parents who fear they might have a grandbaby out of wedlock because a couple live together while not being married. Marriage should be only done if you feel it's the right thing for your relationship and you feel you strongly love this person. And by love this person, I mean don't have a screaming match every 5 minutes.

[@ArmednotTriggered]

I've met the actor that played Mr. Rudolph and he is delightful.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

:-) I hope I didn't hurt his feelings.

[@ArmednotTriggered]

Say Goodnight Kevin I doubt it. 😋 Your criticisms are legit and he was not in the film enough to be that invested. In fact, I recall him saying that his grandkids didn't even noticed he was in it the first time they watched.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

I hope he gave them nothing for Christmas.

[@ArmednotTriggered]

Say Goodnight Kevin On the contrary, I would say that he gave them the greatest Christmas gift of all. If my grandfather had a role in a trite Christian film, I would prefer that he wasn't recognizable. If people recognized him, I would have to live with the shame. Blessing in disguise, really.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

haha. I guess that's true. lol.

[@ClassyWhale]

I really should not be watching this within two days of wisdom teeth surgery...I'm laughing too hard!

[@anonivan]

i lose it EVERY time with "not the dog!"

[@katpope2591]

The actress who played the little girl trapped in the fire goes to my school and brags about her role in this movie... I would try my hardest to forget!

[@SailorSabol]

Bro, as soon as you said no man left behind I did the exact same motion you did at the exact same time. We have bonded.

[@ThePikachuiscute]

Fun facts: Catherine means "pure"...(irony) and Caleb can mean either "rabid" or..."dog"...

[@autumnhobbit]

I've never seen this movie before this, but I have to agree with you about the acting. I, unfortunately, have seen plenty of marriage arguments in various contexts, and it is so easy to tell that the film's scenes are contrived. Plus, what is with that end message? Paying for a girl's stuff is the way to her heart?? Good to know. **Sigh.** Anyway, the new format works great, can't wait to see what comes next. :)

[@MicahGreaney]

I would say to go ahead and watch the movie and form your own opinions. The money was not portrayed as any kind of key to her heart. If you see the development in the movie, you'll notice that throughout it the main character (the guy) has been saving up for a boat. It was the one thing he just wasn't willing to give up after (somewhat begrudgingly at first, but more whole-heartedly as the movie progresses) he gave up everything else. This keyed off his wife to the fact that he wasn't playing around. The boat had been more important than her before, but now that he'd given it all up for her, she understands that he's legitimately changed. Again, don't go by Kevin's lame, misguided, and overly critical review. And don't go by mine either. I'd say watch it for yourself and decide. (I'm not usually so critical but Kevin kind of upset me with this one. He just wasn't fair in the least with any of this and I'd challenge him to present anything legitimate that I, myself, can't easily refute by taking a closer look at the movie.)

[@autumnhobbit]

Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact that the situations in the film are contrived and poorly-acted. I agree with the review simply because I've seen enough Christian material of a similar sort that I'm not surprised this movie follows the same pattern. I'll probably see it at some point at a church event, anyway, but I wouldn't be surprised if it follows the same pattern of being if not bad, then at least half-hearted.

[@MicahGreaney]

Autumn Hobbit You are of course free to form your own opinions, and your point is well taken. Believe me, I view everything very critically and most Christians films are just straight up pathetic. However, I really wouldn't say so about this one. Yes, the acting was in many cases sub-par but so are many, many secular releases. Let's not single this one out because it's "Christian." Also, just in case your weren't aware (It's difficult to detect tone of voice online, so let me clarify that I say this without any hint of sarcasm) none of the actors/actresses in this movie were payed. They all volunteered their time and effort for free. Considering this fact, I'd say the acting is pretty darn good. And overall, the acting was actually very decent. But Kevin hand picked (as it's essentially his job to do) every single bad scene in the movie. It's my assertion that's he's essentially created a "straw man" of the entire film. He's taken bits and peaces of it which were sub-par, misrepresented those pieces, and then thrown the entire movie out. This is simply ridiculous, and quite honestly deceitful. Sorry for the essay, but I can't encourage you enough to watch it for yourself. I suspect you might be pleasantly surprised.

[@jonesthemoblin1400]

***** Kirk Cameron's claim to fame is that he was an atheist who "met Jesus" and I don't doubt his sincerity - just his understanding. He has embraced the most simple and easy to swallow aspect of Christianity and treats it like the full truth of Christianity when it is really only a scratch in the surface. But complex facts of reality do not sell a philosophy centered around a benevolent creator who wants you to have the best possible life. I understand the reasoning, but that's not what the Bible portrays at all. God is not here for us, we are here for him. That is a lot of trouble for 21 century, western-thinking, post-enlightnment humans to swallow. We are the descendents of people who overthrew almost every single monarchy in the world because man has the right to be masters of their own destiny. As such modern Christianity has become nothing but fluffy, hypocritical, nonsense. Instead of reading and trying to understand the philosophy of our place with God, Christianity has become a checklist of "do this and your life will be good." Christians thrive on slogans like "It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" or "Premarital sex puts you on the used car lot." Repurcussions are obvious - "If you sleep around before marraige, you will never have a happy marraige." They give reason to the vague rules and dogma that it has taken biblical scholars and church leaders generations to even come close to understanding. And why not? Easy answers are appealing. It's the #1 reason why people turn to religion. "Why is there evil in the world?" Because Adam and eve screwed up. "Why can't I sleep with my boyfriend." Because you will become a slut. "Why can't two men marry if they love each other." They don't really, they are just confused. "How was the world made?" In 7 days, by God. The thing is, those simple answers are satisfying enough to build museums and theme parks and movies around - but they don't stand up to the test of reality. What happens when someone who has been a good Christian all their life and believes God has great work for her finds out she has an inoperable, milignant tumor? What happens when her true and genuine prayers and cries of desperation fall on what seem to be deaf ears? Christians movies are so afraid to dig into the dark side of life, that they can't reach anyone except other Christians who just want to sit and go "Amen, brother" in church. Anyone who actually wants to think and examine their own faith, and anyone who simply doesn't believe are left on the sidelines laughing at the circus that is Christian entertainment. I was chapperoning for my youth group when Newsboys announced "God's Not Dead 2" and as everyone cheered, I just sat down and put my head in my hands and thought "Great. This fiasco again..."

[@autumnhobbit]

Lucky Egg Agreed. This is the thing that irritates me about modern christianity; everyone rejects it, sometimes because it tells the truth, but mostly because it's boring and one-dimensional. There's too much uncertainty when the hard questions have to be asked. And there will always be hard questions in life. Does God hate us if He gives us suffering? Does He hate us if it seems as if He's abandoned us completely? Does He hate us if we want to be happy and are denied that? I myself have struggled with spiritual drought for a few years, and it took me a long while to come to terms with it; partially due to the deep-seated belief that if you don't *feel* God's love, you're clearly not praying hard enough or you're hiding a sin or something. Which is odd, considering Jesus Himself underwent significant spiritual drought during the Passion, and some of the things Job says about God? Not at all modern-christian-friendly. But all of it is truth, and I think that's the problem. Even people who claim to be Christian will readily accept whatever is easy instead of whatever is true.

[@TanukiOkiyo]

I think that’s the real Kirk Cameron during that argument scene.

[@johndavid5152]

It's him when someone says they're gay or believe in evolution

[@animagusurreal]

The filmmakers probably thought the line "How am I supposed to show love to somebody over and over and over who constantly rejects me?" was cleverly ironic coming from a character who rejects Christianity. But it's not like the wife doesn't believe the husband exists, (that sounds like a more interesting premise), she just doesn't get along with him. They're probably going on the "God's Not Dead"-style premise of "They do secretly do believe in God, they're just mad at him!", but still, wow, what a terrible metaphor!

[@kingofthebis1068]

I got an anti porn ad Lol Good thing I don't watch porn I read fanfic Lol 😂

[@djvoldemort1]

I got an anti porn ad. It's called this movie.

[@joebarnard4708]

I'm sure that at Sherwood Baptist Church, this guy is the funniest person there.... 14:30

[@WhatsNotToLike]

No, just gotta say, the point about it being dark "in there" (we're assuming it's a house fire) is incredibly accurate. No matter how light it is outside, inside the house it's like being lost in a cave, especially when you're carrying one hundred plus pounds of gear and a mask over your face. Also... if you've ever heard your parents fight about money or anything for that matter... that argument scene is pretty accurate. The exposition isn't just to explain stuff to the audience. The exposition is to bring up every. little. bitter. thing. because that's how real arguments go. I can't even watch that scene because it conjures up so many bad memories. I do like your reviews, but I think those two points were off.

[@Ken_Tyner]

I still consider it better than God's Not Dead.

[@imgreasy3684]

+Ken Tyner Still better than Sonic Boom.

[@emmawright9660]

My Sumer School Daycare played Patch the Pirate all the time and I have been desperately trying to remember that!

[@musiclove4u62]

You're amazing, Kevin!!

[@saygoodnightkevin]

You're too kind, Leah!

[@zerkzy842]

Erin Bethea, the actress who plays Katherine, is divorced in real life. Yet more christian hypocrisy...

[@iminlalaland4ever]

This is my favorite review channel! You're hilarious, Kevin! :D

[@zachdirksen8852]

Dude, I wish more people talked about Patch The Pirate. It was my huge part of my childhood, and they're still making them.

[@markusbuhler8181]

Would you review any of the "Last Chance Detectives" films? My favourite is the third one.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

Maybe eventually. I remember really liking those. But it HAS been a while. haha.

[@evediby2183]

I remember in elementary school the guy who sings the song "While I'm Waiting" in this movie came to my church and I got one of his CDs and the first thing I asked for him to do before signing my plate was to help me open the CD cuz the wrapping was too hard to get off😂😂😂

[@diaryofagoat-lass1023]

Oddly enough, even though I’m Catholic, I avoid most “Christian movies” and prefer movies on the saints like “St Anthony of Padua” and “the reluctant saint” with Maximilian Sheil. SUPER GOOD MOVIES!

[@TheMovieDoctorful]

So out of ALL the ACTUAL awesome Christian movies that viewers could have requested you check out; The Book of Eli, Signs, Transcendence, I Am Legend, Son of God...THIS is the one they decide to pitch as the pinnacle of Christian cinema? REALLY?

[@ourcertainjoy]

+TheMovieDoctorful The Book of Eli is one of my favourite films of all time, but sadly, most Christians reject films with R rated content (unless it's the Passion) so it's not counted as a Christian film, though it's message is more Christian than every Christian labelled film I've ever seen.

[@TheMovieDoctorful]

Lucas M it's a shame because I feel like The Book of Eli is a far better film than the Passion and actually HAD something to say. I love the message about how we live in a world where wicked people will ALWAYS try and corrupt and twist God's word, but even in the midst of all this corruption, we must obey and spread God's word no matter what. Provides a clear distinction between religious authorities who want to actually help and uplift people and religious authorities who use the power of religion to control and dominate.

[@TheKenPrescott]

+TheMovieDoctorful Too many "Christian" movies are aimed at separating Christians from their money. The Book of Eli was reaching out to the lost sheep.

[@TheMovieDoctorful]

+Ken Prescott I think Transcendence is another one. The Jesus allegories in that film and the very much Christian themes on sacrifice and love and faith are REALLY strong without being over the top.

[@yaboy20071]

I'm a Christian, and as much as I love and really enjoy The Book of Eli (I own the dvd), it's not a Christian movie. It has great Biblical illusions, but it's not a Christian movie. Actually, just because a movie can be based from the Bible doesn't make it Christian. And there lies one problem with people demanding better Christian films. People would rather have either an over-the-top fictitious story (I am Legend) or some feel-good story (Heaven is for real) without being exposed to the real Christ (Fireproof, War Room, God's Not Dead 2). Furthermore, less people want the story of Jesus telling them to give up their facebook addiction, or how they may have to leave their 6-figure job for the sake of the gospel, or they may have to walk away friends that although love them but will hinder them from fulfilling what God wants them to do. That doesn't require extraordinary special fx. Honestly, many Christian movies are cheesy. That can be due to a number of reasons. But on the other hand, there are others that are GREAT!! Great storyline, actors, and message.

[@dannyc.4188]

OMG THE PATCH THE PIRATE REFERENCE

[@brianbillman4714]

Very nice. Loved it!

[@LucasMidkiff]

I love the brief "Team America" reference.

[@SunnyVShine]

Kevin, I still think you should review Mom's Night Out or at least watch it. I think you'll like it, it's really funny! It's almost a anything that can go wrong will kind of movie!

[@mannyromero5714]

yes please do war room

[@doormattfilms]

That was awesome! can't wait for the next one

[@np2679]

She ate a whole pizza by herself! Selfish... lol

[@imgreasy3684]

Nah, I do that all the time.

[@thecynicmillenialshow6112]

It was a pretzel crust stuffed crust I'd understand

[@Beth4ny]

He wouldn't of eaten it anyway. It was Hawaiian!

[@cheesecake134]

I always wondered why the dad had to mail him the book. Like, just give it to him while he's over?

[@imgreasy3684]

+cheesecake134 Kinda like that one guy in a lot of books (for example, Crispin: The Cross of Lead). He has secret information... but hey, don't tell our hero while he's there and you're alone and safe! Tell him to come back tomorrow and you'll give him the secret! Don't worry, it's not like someone'll kill you or anything!

[@NaturallyBec]

Watching this was even better then watching the actual movie! Normally I never watch videos this long on KZbin, but you made it really fun and interesting. Great job! I can't think of any Christian live action films that really had good acting or a good script, they have good messages but we have a long way to go in order to pull up the quality.

[@saygoodnightkevin]

I think it's often because the money goes into marketing the bad film, instead of just making a good one.

[@adhouston99]

Great review. I think "Courageous" would make a good episode!

[@jayblade2000]

"Oh, this must be the trash she talks about!" DYING BUT THEN 'Cristian hot suaaaaaaaaaaassssseeeeeee" LOST IT!

[@SolomonKimPotato]

Love the theme!

[@aliceatwonderland7172]

It disturbs me that they make Kirk's character's anger into an amusing anecdote. Like the neighbor is always seeing him beating at trashcans with a baseball bat. Wah-wahhhh. It's not funny, especially when earlier he was screaming into his wife's face. I've been screamed at like that; it's scary. And I have known people with anger issues, and being a Christian didn't keep them from blowing up like that. In fact, I think some Christians, especially men, bottle that stuff up because it's not "Christian" and then it blows. How long till he stops hitting the trashcan and hits the wife? Lust isn't this guy's only problem. He's also angry, and he needs counseling for both. I'm not saying his wife has no part in their problems, but those scenes of him using his superior strength to back her into a corner . . . yeah no. I did like the review. It's nice to see a Christian's perspective on these movies so that people can't immediately just blow criticism off saying "Oh that person's just an atheist." As someone who entered the church at 22, I can tell you a LOT of stuff that does not work to convert someone, and almost every single one of them shows up in these movies. Thank goodness for reviewers like Kevin. I just wish that had been brought up.

[@JustinSimpson]

I enjoy your Rifftrax live-style ranting when you review movies. You're very good at it. 😊

[@diaryofagoat-lass1023]

Have you ever tried watching “meant to be”? It’s actually one of those rare Christian gems of a movie.

[@illusions97]

I'd love to see you review "Courageous" :)

[@Officerpranky]

12:43 if you're close minded

[@johndavid5152]

It's a joke, not a dick, don't take it so hard