Donahue on WWF Drug & Sex Scandal in 1992

Vince owns the entire show.
Full Episode from 03-16-1992 featuring Murray Hodgekins, Vince McMahon, Barry Orton and Tony Cole in the first portion of the show.
Here was the guest list:
Vince McMahon: He looked to be about 20 years younger than he does now. And
back then, people said he looked 20 years older than he really was. Vince
was pure Vince on this show, before he had ever played heel on television.
Bruno Sammartino: If Bruno had sat next to McMahon, this show would've
turned into a Jerry Springer-like onstage brawl. As it turned out, Bruno
remained calm and made the most sense out of anyone on the panel.
Superstar Billy Graham: Graham was there to confirm his own experience with
steroids and also his experience taking them with Hogan himself.
Unfortunately, Graham did a lot of stuttering and rambling and wasn't able
to make his points effectively.
Murray Hodgson: Murray claimed he was fired 2 weeks after he refused to
sleep with Pat Patterson. He was initially hired to be one of the lead
announcers ala Sean Mooney. While Hodgson lacks credibility in hindsight,
his performance here stole the show.
Dave Meltzer: Dave was there as the outside analyst/expert. Dave had the
best knowledge on all the facts, but had virtually no experience in front of
the camera and was nervous because of it. He did OK, but I'm sure there are
things he would've liked to change. Even if he had gotten the chance, there
were simply too many people on the panel to really make a striking
impression.
Barry Orton: Barry is the brother of Bob Orton and the uncle of Randy. He
wrestled as "Barry O" in WWF mid-80s prelims. Barry was never a big star
and had nothing to lose by coming forward. He improved on his droning
appearance on Larry King, but his talking style was simply not suited for
the fast-paced world of talk TV.
Tom Hankins: Hankins was another veteran mid carder who gave us a Pat
Patterson story. After a brief speech in the beginning, he was never heard
from again.
John Arezzi: Arezzi, who has disappeared from the wrestling world, was on as
another expert/analyst. He had a popular radio show at the time, and he was
a good guest, but didn't get much talk time.

[@Matt-rw9oq]

Even for $9.99, I bet you won't find this little gem on the WWE Network

[@CYOnTheBeat]

they don't own the footage

[@DrRawBalls_TheDummy]

Of course idiot 😂 😂 😂 😂 bc it’s not a WWE show lol it’s a day time tv show that’s not produce by the then WWF.. McMahon does not own this show or footage or the rights, so he can not put it on the WWE Network

[@philipdefibaugh7127]

Folks obviously have no idea what sarcasm is all about.

[@mrraoulandtheking11]

Shame they isn't a request section lol

[@stndrds79]

Hahahah

[@hbkjose1]

This aged well....

[@Jamal3.87]

Phil Donahue was certainly THE pioneer of daytime television. There wasn’t a topic off limits. Being as I was born in the late ‘80s I only saw the last six years of his show. I knew whenever I was at my grandparents house, Donahue was always on at 9 am. I was too young to appreciate the topics but that theme song is iconic. Rest easy sir 1935-2024.

[@kayandaeddings4803]

That is all my grandma ever watched was Oprah Winfrey, and Donahue. She didn't start watching his show until about 1982 when it was on KTVU channel 2 in the Bay Area in the afternoon. But then in 1985, he moved to ABC. On ABC, he would come on after Oprah Winfrey at 4 PM.

[@BNatoAk]

How ironic in 2024 that we're hearing Vince talking about this 32 years ago 😳

[@marqueswatts7489]

True

[@jamesmiller5331]

No one is accusing Vince McMahon of anything in this video. It's about Pat Patterson and some other guys. That's a little different than Vince McMahon becoming a billionaire later on and getting freaky in the sack with women from his apartment building and then getting sued when he fails to make the payments on the non-disclosure agreement

[@marqueswatts7489]

@jamesmiller5331 he was covering up for Pat, and it got exposed during this Era that he was covering up for Hogan steroid use as well.

[@jamesmiller5331]

@@marqueswatts7489 he was protecting his company. I'm sure you would have been the most virtuous of them all and would have taken the hit

[@jamesmiller5331]

The announcers story sounds kind of bogus for sure, like what happened to him was bogus. But do you really think that Pat Patterson went to Vince McMahon and said something like "hey you're announcer won't suck my c ck. Fire him for me" and so McMahon obeyed that order? Was it possible if there's a little more to the story? And no. That doesn't make it right for Pat Patterson to go around pressuring people under him to touch his butt bat but we had gay men so deep in the closet at that point that there was an entire culture of this shit that happened. You can't look at that announcer and listen to him and tell me that Patterson shouldn't think he would be able to take a swing at that lol

[@Trail717]

What the hell's up with the audience laughing at men talking about being abused and/or harassed sexually?

[@chuckyblack3578]

Trail717 They was laughing at Vince's answering of the questions being asked to him.

[@codeblue8922]

I know, the laughter pissed me off. Like its not taken seriously because it’s happening to men?? Its this kind of bullshit that makes it hard for men to come forward when they are sexually abused or harassed.

[@joshuakillingsworth8366]

Just how it was back in the day.

[@zackvanhalen]

I think they just found the whole situation to be absurd. Also, I'm sure homosexual activity was not as accepted or respected back then. Lastly, men, especially wrestlers, were/are viewed as much stronger and aggressive than women and not as susceptible to sexual harassment; therefore, many people don't take it as seriously as when it happens to women.

[@keksterbojester818]

@@WCWThunderRosa conservatives? Really? Your hatred for the right doesn't make that statement true. Liberals are the ones marching for pedo rights currently and you say conservatives laugh at the thought of molestation? Conservatives dont support gay marriage, liberals do, conservatives dont support nudist family beaches that expose children to all kinds of filth, liberals do. The shoe fits dumbass, wear it.

[@big_dro1713]

None of these people would be laughing if that happened to their child.

[@tomblinzig7307]

Got that right.

[@kellycharles5369]

Facts

[@E_GIBSON]

If it did, hopefully they would be smart enough to call the police and get a lawyer. Seems like these people aren't.

[@aaronolson5434]

Yeah that's why Pat was hired back right after this story aired.....

[@big_dro1713]

Did you mean to say fired?

[@YD-uq5fi]

It took 32 years, but Karma caught up with Vince McMahon.

[@JackyJames1]

Look at 1:55 Vince body language! Says it all!!

[@sam-the-man8500]

IT REALLY DIDNT THOUGH VKM THOUGHT HE WAS INVINCIBLE HAD HE PAID THE OTHER 2 MILLION DOLLARS WERE NOT HAVING THIS CONVO

[@marklefkowitz4385]

​@@sam-the-man8500 Stop yelling with the caps and avoid run on sentences, Junior.

[@WWESVRPLAYER]

who are you shouting at?@@sam-the-man8500

[@MDJ-wb1pn]

@@marklefkowitz4385in reality reading his comment he was screaming with his words

[@Schnute]

Meltzer with his mullet sitting along side Vince McMahon was glorius 😁

[@romans52345-cy3tq]

Meltzer is a moron

[@danzena4059]

I am all for women's rights but it baffles me how these women are laughing at rape allegations between men in a very macho business. I guarantee you if it was a helpless women or some very feminine gay man, they wouldn't laugh it off.

[@CaptainHowdy187]

I wonder how those dumb bitches would feel if someone in their family was sexually harassed. Would they find the subject so fucking hilarious then?

[@glassineheart]

tell me about it, it's fucking sickening. if anyone dared to laugh at a woman who was raped or sexually abused...jesus. feminism is screwed the fuck up.

[@SupDocOck]

you goddamn fucking idiots are the problem how many of you don't really care about male survivors of sexual assault until you realized "i could use this against FuCKING FEMINISTS!!!!!!" you know, generally speaking, when a guy comes out as having been sexually assaulted it's the guys who are first to rag shit on him and the feminists who are first to support him, but since none of you total jackarses have ever paid any attention to what actual feminists say or do you just sit back and talk absolute shit based on vague, second hand appraisals from whichever source fitted your view best. or maybe some super chopped up list of quotes that you straight up didn't understand. sexual assault against guys is taken uniquely less seriously, in some specific ways for sure, but it sure ain't women who are usually the problem. but if you want people to believe you're not misogynist, or whatever, hearing an audience of probably vaguely conservative middle class 40 something women giggle at "gay wrestling sex scandal" and then going "DUMB BITCHES!!! FEMINISTS RUIEND WOMEN" is not gonna help your reputation avoid fucking tanking

[@MattSingh1]

Dan Zena I'd advise against using a specific, single solitary example and applying it broadly/generally. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe it's a genuine mistake, though.

[@d25615]

Totally agree. It's OK and funny for a straight man to lose his job for not performing favors. But if a woman said no and lost her job she would own the WWE

[@swmita]

This show foreshadowed things to come in Hollywood and the entertainment industry.

[@PhonyPhoniPhone]

All this stuff has been going on in all of the entertainment industry. These men were very brave to come forth with their stories even though this was and still is a very taboo subject of male-to-male sexual harassment.

[@swmita]

@@PhonyPhoniPhone That wrestler was spot on but who gave a shit even now. But at least he would have been believed. The entertainment industry as a whole is a sick business anyway. Listen to actress Britney Spears. Cory Heim who died and his friend Cory Feldman who was way ahead of his time. The perversion Hollyweird has been around for decades. Now with the internet the truth seeps out.

[@PhonyPhoniPhone]

@@swmita very true 🤐

[@swmita]

@@PhonyPhoniPhone i think the more truth that comes out the more surreal it will all seem. Take Prince's death for example. Read the lyrics to his songs about vaccinations. People with money and power live within secret societies. Revisit the speech that JFK made regarding that very topic of secret societies. It was put out there for all to hear if they were willing to listen. Then read the comments made literally etched in stone known as the Georgia Guidestones. What gives rich powerful people the gall to tell the rest of the world how to live AND who should die. Usually these are the same sick people who mastermind their perverted underworld to whomsoever they wish to control or attempt to control. Pay attention to "everything" because the world is getting crazier by the minute. Peace out Brother.

[@elhajjmalikel6266]

Yep!!!

[@angelgonzalez7348]

15:35 Dang, this really holds weight after everything that's come out with McMahon in the last 2 years, but especially in the last 24 hours.

[@OneUltimateWarrior]

Aged like fine wine.

[@jackrussell3084]

I feel really sorry for that man. Bet at the time Vince planted enough seeds for people to think it was a case of sour grapes for being fired for not being a good announcer and that the whole accusation was a lie.

[@B33FY2011]

Definitely! All the time, this was happening back then, Vince knew fine well what was happening. The steroid abuse and sexual abuse, he knew. Now it comes out that he was sex trafficking women out to his employees. I really believe Vince has been doing this for years, way before this aired.

[@sammygaudino8906]

​@jackrussell3084 pat Paterson was a known predator..And after this he got hired again.

[@ShotsFired50150]

This has been not so funny issue with women....👏

[@crazy_old_bat]

Wow. Seeing this in 2024 is absolutely wild knowing what has come forth in the years since.

[@tonymontano2553]

what the hell is wrong with everyone giggling about rape, and sexual assault???

[@thisguy1338]

Back then, raping large muscular men was hilarious, I guess. I'm sure you've heard jokes about prison and not "dropping the soap".

[@mr.b9613]

Because it happened to men. Stuff is only serious when it happens to women nowadays.

[@Lerf8]

​@@mr.b9613nowadays? This is 1992

[@nox7282]

People laugh in uncomfortable situations. You’ve seen it and probably done it.

[@TayDays1128]

Fuck out of here with the “laugh in uncomfortable situations” crap. Nobody laughs when a woman is in this situation. These people lack empathy because theyre men.

[@andyportico8552]

Vince was so anxious to get to the bottom of it that he hired Patterson back to the WWE.

[@JeffMcDuffie72MeridianGate]

LOL

[@TheRealDannAlexander]

Exactly. Brilliant comment.

[@brandonhendrix7223]

That because the accusations against Patterson didn't hold. Mel Phillips and Terry Garvin on the other hand were found to be true and they never came back.

[@loufournier5397]

@@brandonhendrix7223 Patterson was holding plenty if you catch my drift.

[@scottodonnell7121]

@@brandonhendrix7223 Patterson and McMahon are smoking each other.

[@Megatron-sl5us]

Today, Vince finally got caught. Idiot had it all, now his life and possibly many more guys who were involved will be ruined forever.

[@marshallderriek1858]

At nearly 80 .. Vince is already done . His lawyers can drag it out to his end

[@richardlawson6787]

Kinky...very kinky facts

[@whodatn4l948]

It's not ruined. Yeah he's no longer involved with WWE but he's gonna live the rest of his life in luxury and comfort. He'll never see jail time. Billionaires hardly ever go to jail because they can buy themselves out of it.

[@Megatron-sl5us]

Actually, some have gone to prison. But only for a few months or a year.@@whodatn4l948

[@dane21dc]

@@whodatn4l948Yeah, but his reputation is mud forever. He’s already getting the Benoit treatment

[@Allenryan819]

This has aged badly for Vince McMahon.

[@Zeekoso]

Dave Meltzer looks like he just jumped out of the Goodfellas movie and Bruno Sammartino is clearly a Family Boss.

[@hatchetmouth8211]

You are being far too generous to Meltzer. He's too weaselly and inert to be like anyone off Goodfellas.

[@dogfan4lyfe]

I’m impressed that Vince went on this show and faced the heat. There’s not one person in that room who is on his side.

[@carybeweary7209]

Meltzer was pretty chill at least

[@nick56677]

@Cary Be Weary Yeah, lol. I think Meltzer knew if he did too much to antagonize Vinny Mac that Vince would take away his backstage pass at his shows. Look at 32:22, Vince is looking at Dave like "Watch your words, Dave, if u like your job PAL"

[@AshleySmith19912]

⁠@@nick56677Yeah I noticed that too lol. I’ve heard Dave and other people talk about this, when business is good for the WWF/E, Meltzer never hears or has any contact with Vince McMahon. But when business is bad, like it was during this time period, Meltzer becomes Vince’s best friend, as he’ll rely on Dave to feed him information about happenings in rival promotions, what’s going on in Japan, expiring contracts from another company, etc. I tend to believe that.

[@shaunteasdale6613]

Still impressed in 2024?

[@jessscott2542]

I can't look at Donahue without seeing Leslie Neilson 😂

[@khalilreid]

Or Wayne sprouse

[@GaryDelabate]

He’s serious. And don’t call him Shirley.

[@kevied88]

😂😂😂

[@twenty-2923]

Dark side of the ring needs a episode on the cream team

[@beth-bi9yv]

These three guys are incredibly brave to come forward, especially that day and age.

[@frankcabanski9409]

How do you know they were telling the truth?

[@yourefatandlazy]

back when you could make fun of lgbt

[@russellmuscle7434]

@@yourefatandlazy you still fkn can if you have a set, fk cancelation and social media

[@savagecatgt]

Yes. It was for sure an uphill battle for these victims and others like them. Even now there are people doubting the people coming forward about Vince. It's just sad how some people, because they often have never experienced sexual violence and harassment, feel the need to play devils advocate, or just choose to call them liars or whores. What if it were their mother, sister, wife, daughter?

[@rockys201]

@@yourefatandlazy compared to now if you try to make any sort of fun about the LGBT they'll destroy you

[@balancer182]

Vince survived this, he survived WCW, but for some reason, he cannot seem to counter the PG era.

[@LightFromADeadStar]

he's an old out of touch man, age has caught up to him and he refuses to accept reality

[@atifqavi2054]

He also survived New Generation and Benoit.

[@TL2354]

balancer182 it’s not hard to figure out, he adapted to society in the Attitude Era and he’s adapting to society now. Everyone gets offended by every so he can’t do what he used to do

[@dereknyc4402]

Well WWE is a public company now, there are board members and share holders that influence the direction of the company

[@EddieMachetti]

Derek L. Well I hate all of them.

[@FreneticZetetic]

Sammartino brings the most weight to this conversation as far as truth goes IMHO. No union, blackball, etc. Also LOL at Meltzer correcting Vince, absolute gold.

[@AshleySmith19912]

I chuckled at that part too. Meltzer didn’t hesitate either, Vince tried to lie as usual, and got caught

[@kerri648]

​@@AshleySmith19912can you pls tell me when he corrected him?

[@AshleySmith19912]

@@kerri648 When John Arezzi asked Vince the question “didn’t you say you were devastated by Hogan’s comments on the Arsenio Hall Show?”, and Vince responded by saying he wasn’t devastated but Meltzer said “you told me you were devastated”

[@kerri648]

@@AshleySmith19912 thanks a lot ..i should have asked you for the time stamp ..if you know roughly when that would be appreciated

[@AshleySmith19912]

@@kerri648 Around 39:05

[@benbanks6302]

Great show 🎤I wish shows like this were on TV today 📺

[@criticalbill2090]

Pat Patterson was the Harvey Weinstein of the wrestling business!

[@rebeccaann5364]

Yeah that's what it sounds like. Wow I never knew.

[@travismcdonald6576]

Bill Proud Patterson was flirtatious, but not the monster he’s been accused of.

[@SPRFHAEW]

@@travismcdonald6576 How do you know?

[@muhyee294]

J Pennington because vince had his back. But it was justice when Randy savage banged his daughter

[@1111742]

No he isn't. Patterson was & probably still is a predator. Weinstein engaged in mutual encounters. To take a deal that says "have sex with me for the movie role" isn't sex. Those women were prostitutes. They had sex with him in exchange for a favor. They are no better then Weinstein. There is a big difference between rape & cat calling.

[@JustinRichards]

Respect to Vince for agreeing to appear on the show to face and deny those allegations, knowing fully well that his company was guilty of all of them.

[@kingdaleclarke]

He's a good actor

[@havoc61187]

Agreed, I didn't even know this existed.

[@gupworld7395]

More like respect to whoever got him on board. I have no respect for this grand daddy sleezebag.

[@frankcabanski9409]

Prove it.

[@dianabrennan2903]

Then he hired Pat Patterson back on to WWE .

[@jasonv2323]

It’s so strange to me that the crowd laughs in very serious moments regarding sexual harassment

[@j04370859]

People always find male sexual assualt or rape funny.

[@jasonvoorhees-wr7iq]

The show is much more important today

[@hatednyc]

I'm sending a postcard for Donahue tickets right now

[@lastlaff2777]

Don't forget a self-addressed stamped envelope for a transcript of the show.

[@michaelhopper2199]

This post made my day!!!!!

[@jarnold3415]

Donahue and Geraldo were the best

[@brianholden3667]

Remember postcards only please.

[@murray1978]

Me too. Maybe we can get seats next to each other. I always wanted to go see Springer live back during its peak.

[@R-Lee-]

Ah, the days when a CEO would go on TV to defend their company. Now lawyers would stop him, you have nothing to gain by going on the show Mr. MacMahon. This'll all blow over.

[@henrysmith180]

I'm surprised at how many went on TV to talk about these allegations!!! Donahue, CNN, Arsenio Hall and who knows who else.

[@pandaloon6083]

I don't think the WWF was a public company at the time. Not being a legal entity, the WWF didn't have legal representation separate from Vince. So, if Vince ruined the company he was ruining his own bank account.

[@richardfass2562]

As a fan of Vince my whole life, he knew exactly what was going on and to have under age kids getting sexual favors makes me sick

[@richardfass2562]

They might have been gone but he still knew what was going on

[@nick56677]

@ny giants fan raider fan Pat Patterson and Innocence shouldn't be in the same sentence. Dude was guilty of assault many times over, but was protected by Vince's deep pockets. Pat Patterson did his Cream Team His Way 🎶.

[@jsmith3946]

there was never any proof anything like that was going on and there still ain't

[@fjccommish]

He did know that Murray was lying. Hodgson’s own lawyer decided to drop him as a client after McMahon and his team of lawyers and independent private investigators discovered that this wasn’t Hodgson’s first sexual harassment lawsuit. Murray Hodgson made a career out of suing ex employers for the same accusations. The judge in his case not only dismissed his lawsuit, but allegedly called Murray Hodgson , ‘A Habitual liar and con man.’ Murray Hodgson would soon disappear from the spotlight.

[@MegaMan-bs3oy]

The fact Vince didn't at least say "IF that is true that is terrible and I swear to you we will make it right". BUT he went straight into defense mode. THEN to hire Pat right back? WOW.

[@dejanjuhanovski9504]

It was revealed years later that two out of the three dudes lied. No one saw Pat Petterson sexually harassing anyone, no witnesses have ever come forward, could not find anyone 100 percent credible.pat petterson has a wife and kids, they couldn't find a man who ever had sex with petterson

[@jsmith3946]

there was never any proof that he did anything

[@bryanmack4054]

@@jsmith3946 proof? What do you need? A video in a bedroom?

[@fuzzluvver69]

​@@jsmith3946 You seem to be under the false pretence that witness testimony isn't admissible as evidence. And you're wrong.

[@shaqyardie8105]

@@fuzzluvver69 It really isn't though, it's more like supporting evidence. Case in point, some women lie about being raped all the time, so there' needs to be more evidence, hence why most rape cases get dismissed.

[@bayboggs4742]

Vince had that furious "GODDAAMMIITT!" look the whole time

[@chynafan2771]

it is so not funny to laugh at the fact that men where getting sexually abused it is so disgraceful

[@jd1702]

Well said he has to bring the audience back by saying this has been a not so funny issue for woman double standards

[@2002films]

B real, fuck off

[@2002films]

Red dogg truth, you are gay

[@dope_sniperc-ops1985]

Because of men world getting bad day by day IM SHAMED

[@david6099]

lol a fact? you don't know that

[@george.carrasco]

Meltzer is literally right next to Vince on that panel. I wonder how that felt 😂

[@CPUGaming]

I doubt he felt much. Wasn't like they weren't in contact at that time.

[@300hiker]

Holy shit, they were almost 20 minutes in before I realized they hadn’t taken a commercial break yet!

[@144church]

Who the hell let's their 13 year old kid travel with the WWF putting up ring's?

[@shahluva.avti.christos]

HarleyFace Bubba and Vickie Dumbphucs... 😒😒😒

[@paulhetrick1759]

HarleyFace They were mostly homeless boys & orphans.

[@BrooklynRival7718]

White people do.

[@PhilPeeVa]

@@BrooklynRival7718 😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@bigjavo36]

Orphans runaways piper started traveling as a wrestler at 15.

[@ashwinramesh1524]

Watching this today with Vince on it is the pinnacle of irony 😂😂😂

[@wrestlingfan1596]

😂😂😂😂

[@rafaellima8996]

Guess Phil was right all along

[@davidnoori222]

Phil Donahue..... YOUR....FIREEEEEDDD!!!!

[@119Agent]

How so?

[@ciscofire99]

In his mind, he's not wrong

[@DannyGautama]

Phil Hartman was spot on as playing Donahue on SNL.😂

[@grims4ever]

Phil Hartman was awesome in general. Just an overall good dude by all accounts.

[@mikestevenson576]

I think Darrell Hammond was more on target.

[@intellivisionmaster7999]

I’ll break the tie: Phil Hartman was the 🐐

[@DannyGautama]

@@grims4ever 👍🏽

[@DannyGautama]

@@mikestevenson576 Really?

[@urbanflavorz]

Pat Petterson was right back in the WWF after this. He was let go for the Donahoe show and got back on once it was over.

[@Machete87]

if i am being honest i don't think he fired Patterson at all. i think Vince jus told Pat to lie low n stay put til it all blew over.

[@urbanflavorz]

@@Machete87 yeah gave him paid Leave til it blew over. Still was part of creating story lines just didn't go to shows.

[@VivaLaZach]

​@@urbanflavorz yes he was him and Brisco were "stooges" to vince on the shows years later. Idk if you are meaning something else though

[@timhornswaggle1243]

@@Machete87Patterson packed more fudge than Betty Crocker.

[@starrsmith3810]

Which proves that Vince didn’t give a shit about the allegations. He only canned him to begin with to save face until he felt like he could include him back into the fold.

[@chrispmoney]

Vince McMahons hair is super clutch in this. That's why he won the case

[@michaelharritt4867]

'No laughing' as though it is okay for men to be sexually harassed but if it was a woman it would be a problem... glad things have changed. The interviewer is ridiculous 'a defenceless woman you're not'

[@rubberchix]

its a good point. his job is to get points across to American daytime TV's retarded audience

[@sillygoose635]

...that's Donahue.

[@reneesotelo4929]

I give those men so much credit for being both brave and vulnerable in front of the world. I wish them the very best of luck and love ❤️

[@kingofkings69ner]

They were lying

[@redrain860]

@@kingofkings69ner Didn't you get the memo? It's apparently "guilty even if proven innocent" nowadays. Anybody can say they're a victim, and social media just believes it instantly without giving the facts of both sides the immense importance they deserve. It's like people don't know the meaning of "evidence" before. So messed up.

[@kingofkings69ner]

@@redrain860 Like Johnny Depp and Amber Turd before the trial? Yeah people are gullible these days

[@Up-frontstorefront]

Vince a dB then and still a dB now

[@savagecatgt]

I hate that it is brave to be vulnerable. And I hate that getting victimized makes you the vulnerable one l. The perpetrator should be the vulnerable and ashamed one. Just look at the comments here. Just such a shame how many men can't seem to support men who have been abused by other men. If a woman did it, there'd be more sympathy. Men can hurt other men. Women can hurt other women. It's not men vs women. It's the super rich vs 99.999% of us. Don't let them trick you.

[@devinw5150]

Watching this now in 2024 knowing what Vince is accused of sheds a whole new light on his appearance on this show.

[@LogicMind99]

People seemed so much more articulate back then

[@diegoandrade8109]

Tom H what do you mean

[@freshouthebox2298]

I was thinking the exact same thing

[@keksterbojester818]

Welcome to the pre hip hop culture. Ever since it became cool to be ghetto and stupid people now days are a bunch of fucking morons.

[@loisdraper3222]

@@keksterbojester818 it's true. I hate how it's cool to be a dumb ass now.

[@keksterbojester818]

@@loisdraper3222 just look at snapchat, all the popular stories on there are full of low iq stupidity and the latest mumble rap lyric. Dont get me wrong, I enjoy memes just like everyone else, but there is a problem with society when people like Mia Khalifa are viewed as icons.

[@jrwizz]

vince is so guilty here just with body language alone

[@scootmcgoot570]

Jerry Warren you know it! it screams guilt

[@tylerlumpkin3675]

Exactly

[@joshuakillingsworth8366]

He wasn't guilty in the court of law.

[@TheSweetestScience]

Yea but he beat the case and the federal government. But you’re right, this case screams FIXED... this was some CRAZY ammunition to be thrown at Vince and for him to come out unscathed. Think being a multi-millionaire, damn near BILLION dollar (at the time) CEO of a BILLION dollar corporation had anything to do with the outcome???.... cuz I do. 😏

[@CheapJabroni]

J.R. Wizzle good thing you aren’t convicting anyone. He was proven innocent

[@seanharris37]

Vince's face when Superstar Billy Graham is talking - PRICELESS

[@BumbleBees77]

The truth is shocking

[@savagecatgt]

@@BumbleBees77 he's not shocked by the truth. Vince was shocked that Billy was actually saying the quiet part aloud lol. Sexual abuse and the wwe go hand in hand still.

[@andycummings-music]

Billy would later admit he was lying.

[@humanoidy]

​@@andycummings-music show us evidence

[@andycummings-music]

@@humanoidy Google it.

[@MarstheAvenger1]

Rest in Peace, Superstar Billy Graham (June 7, 1943-May 17, 2023).

[@robtru84]

Yes the original Hulk Hogan

[@pulsarlights2825]

@@robtru84 Hulk on his best day never looked as good as the Superstar

[@babarazamsucks]

R.I.P. Superstar Billy Graham.😢

[@fiercecamaross]

@@pulsarlights2825 Hulk took a lot of his sayings (like Brother!) for instance, and calling his biceps "pythons" among others. He openly admits it in recent interviews when asked who influenced him/helped build the Hulk character.

[@bankrollbrandon74]

My Birthday Twin June 7th

[@t.s.b.988]

Around the 9:45 mark Vince says he never looked the other way. In Bret's book, Bret writes the only thing Vince was guilty of is looking the other way.

[@TekkLuthor]

@@User_Not_Found_ErRrOr13 ooof you're a noob

[@Yusoo8]

Beyoncé Windmill the best there is..........

[@GordonGkko]

Ironically this was way more entertaining than anything WWE has produced in the last 15 years.

[@ronnielovesmambo4160]

“How many homosexuals are in your neighborhood? Report back !” Donahue was always so witty 😂

[@pmointernet]

so embarrassing in 2024 that people giggle about this.

[@germantruthseeker]

A man claims he was sexually harassed and women in the audience start laughing. What if it was the other way around? This just goes to show how hypocritical our "politically correct" society really is.

[@10Zissou10]

Try to take into account that this was 22 years ago, and times have changed somewhat.

[@CaptainHowdy187]

Zissou10 Women used to think sexual harassment was hilarious?

[@BigFlange]

I think that they assume because it is wrestling that this whole argument is a setup. They probably thought at the end there would be a wrestling match lol.

[@MissTia777]

You know that was 1992 right? Back then sterotypes reigned strong

[@SupDocOck]

this comments thread is such bullshit i'm torn between "you know what, yes, sexual assault against men is taken less seriously in a unique way" and agreeing but also everything else you say is such shit.

[@cartyrdeyager3283]

“ Casting couch” was a phrase in 1992, that’s awesome!

[@Machete87]

its still pretty prevelent today to describe wat the entertainment industry does to young celebs men n women alike.

[@coleledet3868]

...is it though? 🤔

[@JulieR73]

Vince is pure evil. The things he’s said and done are reprehensible. He belongs in prison. The text messages that have come out between he and a young lady, are terrible. Such abhorrent behavior by Vince has to be stopped, and I hope that he will be dealt with swiftly by authorities.

[@jordan12118]

Vince McMahon is just as much of a creep back then as he is now but nowadays he has way more money and power. Send this guy to jail

[@jackmurray2446]

If Vince had any integrity, he would have fired Patterson, but he's still with the WWE as I type this! smh

[@Lion-O-Richie2040]

When it comes crashing down and it hurts inside

[@jimmadonna1436]

That's his BUTT BUDDY!

[@jeremypelter6898]

On May Dirdy-Burst at Ouber Dee Hedge (1998)

[@bxmp1593]

He did fire him...but charges were dropped and so he was rehired

[@jocam21]

He did fire him. But rehired him when no truth to the charges were proven. It's very telling however, that Mel Phillips and Terry Garvin were never associated with the WWF/E again.

[@hugonongbri8100]

Bro that audience laughing like it's a comedy show ....how times have changed

[@jasonlassiter9229]

“I want a wholesome organization.”-Vince McMahon Lol 😆

[@Youdoxxikill]

Then 10 years later walking trish like a dog lmao

[@robertdiotalevi285]

He always tried to get himself some, whole or not!

[@dhanus010]

Vince is the guy with a dead body in the trunk, gets pulled over by a cop, and doesnt break a sweat as he chats him up as is let off with a warning. Textbook psychopath

[@MaxKongo]

"Wresting is tacky!" Coming from the lady in the crowd of a day time talkshow

[@elhajjmalikel6266]

That was so irrelevant for her to say. That had nothing to do with anything. Dumb broad.

[@ta3722]

I was hoping for Rowdy Roddy Piper to run and and smack her with a chair

[@Okayonce]

When in doubt wear black. She wore black that day.

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

Good point. She doesn't have a leg to stand on.

[@BrentSexy]

Imagine someone with that haircut calling something else tacky

[@nick56677]

32:50 Vince is thinking "watch your words Dave or I'll have your backstage VIP ticket banned"

[@joelaquin]

First time watching this Feb 1 2024.

[@kasshmoney4423]

I wonder why Donahue didn't allow questions about homosexuality in the WWF to be answered. When one member from the audience asked, they went to commercial when someone on the panel was trying to answer and his response was not heard. The other time, Donahue cut the audience member off and went to someone else without giving the panel a chance to respond. Sounds like McMahon may have paid Donahue to keep certain topics out of the discussion as much as possible.

[@mightyknight]

The other possible reason would that the show took place in the middle of the day and back in those days, certain topics of discussion were too sensitive on family friendly shows.

[@kasshmoney4423]

@@mightyknight I understand where you're coming from. That still doesn't make sense though because if content was supposed to be completely family-friendly, they wouldn't have had this episode to begin with. Topics discussed are sexual assault and drug use within the WWF. That subject matter alone makes it less than ideal for a family-friendly episode.

[@mightyknight]

@@kasshmoney4423Perhaps

[@TheVileOne]

Phil Donahue seemed to be grandstanding a lot here and just loving the sound of his own voice.

[@lenwennerberg1631]

Hot doggin' and grandstandin'

[@deetwentyone4528]

This would be a nice topic for Dark Side of the Ring to cover.

[@carybeweary7209]

They probably will in season 3

[@humayu89]

Saw the episode today and came to this video

[@the80sguy80]

@@humayu89 Ditto ;)

[@chrisjennings9328]

And it was lol

[@officerperez]

Jesus Christ. . . The crowd laughing at the guy at the beginning. This aged like milk.

[@booognish]

Man, this is a much more intelligent version of a television show than what we have today...

[@adeltoral]

The world has also dumbed down a lot in the last 30 years. Too many people trying to keep up with the Kardashians out there! 🙄

[@TheLuminousOne]

wtf

[@BGvibes115]

Except the inappropriate laughing 🥴😬

[@TheRubberStudiosASMR]

Laughing at men being raped. Yeah they sound really intelligent 😂

[@KiaraWilliamsX]

“In 1982” “ I don’t recall a telephone call” Lmao, what.. really Vince

[@72blxxdbpsfoo]

This needs to be on Dark side of the ring season 4, it's too bad that Bruno and Barry Orton isn't here to give their side of the story

[@AshleySmith19912]

RIP to both of them. On a side note, I had no idea that Randy Orton was Barry’s nephew. One of the biggest stars of the last 15 years in WWE, and his uncle was someone who was most likely permanently blacklisted from the WWF. But kudos to Vince for not holding that against Randy.

[@davidarwood6264]

He knows the name ORTON is rembered from Cowboy Bob Orton. Randy's father , I think. Same way with Nascar. People like to see familiar names. Barry O really just got started when his ordeal started and he got out.

[@Machete87]

i think Barry was killed for speaking out.

[@thegoughandbordenfamily8234]

​@@AshleySmith19912Randy gets the position he has because of his he and his family know. It's simy to keep them quiet.

[@edwardcurl3856]

Vince looks nervous and guilty as hell and I believe sex abuse and drug were rampant in the wwf and Vince McMahon knew all about it and kept it hidden because it would destroy him and his company

[@tylongkicks8821]

Vince finally gone

[@sherrymay5409]

He's definitely guilty

[@Norseman311]

$ makes people do crazy shit

[@James230479]

All you need to know about Vince McMahon's character on full display on this show over 30 years ago. All his energy on why the victims didnt come forward earlier and trying to find alternative theories on why one of the victims was fired instead of focusing on fixing the issue at hand. Can you imagine how much inappropriate/illegal bahaviour he got away with over his time in the wrestling business? Such a corrupt individual. Hoping he finally faces justice and gets whats coming to him.

[@markthompson8588]

How the hell did Vince survive this??

[@gamingsagepro1018]

Well Donahue said the WWF made a BILLION dollars in the early 90s but almost went out of business due to lack of funds by the late 90s so I would assume he paid a boatload of money to survive it.

[@ScarFace5566]

Same way the Catholic Church did

[@wnentv68]

Millions talk BS walks

[@zumaanandrade3961]

His wife is a billionaire with political contacts. Look it up. Politicians control the law.

[@tonyc5440]

@@ScarFace5566 don't forget the Christian Church son

[@Campingandfishingwithandy]

Holy shit it was Vince the whole time damm!!

[@elhajjmalikel6266]

Biggest plot twist ever. What's crazy is that it was so unexpectedly expected.

[@NoxSuKao]

the analogy 'this is like having the secretary confront her boss who sexually harass her' Vince's face after that line...

[@midwestdolo818]

God lee man I had no fuckin clue this interview took place! How did Vince survive this and JUST NOW getting caught up and forced out of the business

[@philipferrante3717]

Vince brought Patterson back in the late 90s he worked with Jerry Briscoe. That tells you that Vince knew

[@mrskinszszs]

man, vince really did not handle this well. i saw the charges were dropped shortly hereafter, and patterson was re-hired. that's shameful.

[@mrskinszszs]

@Anant Raman Multiple people have made similar comments about him outside of Billy Graham.

[@mrskinszszs]

@Anant Raman No people in this episode... well hell, that changes everything!

[@mrskinszszs]

@Anant Raman But it doesn't change what I said. Just nobody on the specific episode.

[@mrskinszszs]

@Anant Raman Correct - some have accused, others have intimated, but yes

[@AD-ur1fk]

They’re all liars and want money. Vince was innocent

[@richardporter6686]

People forget that theres always been issues with WWF/WWE and Vince for years

[@riaddaniels2823]

Love watching these old segments that are coming up. Would never have been able to watch this in my country back in the day.

[@1solosoldier]

Leslie Nielson played Phil Donahue perfect in the Naked Gun😂😂😂

[@Scorch1028]

After lambasting Vince McMahon on this show in 1992, it's amazing that Superstar Billy Graham was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2004.

[@Music-qt3ok]

He said he was lying about it.

[@JaceyMitchell]

I think Murray Hodgekins made an excellent transition from radio to television based on how competently he's interrogating VKM here. Doing a better job than Phil Donahue himself.

[@banban52001]

He said Pat Patterson was no longer with the company back then, but he was later brought back in the attitude era. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@NobesBLO13]

He was brought back a lot quicker than that

[@gmughadam76]

Sad part is that Pat Patterson was brought back to WWE

[@olegv.khlevniuk2391]

And then pat Patterson was back in the wwf 6 months later. Public relations served its purpose. The fact that Vince brought him back shows Vince not only knew but also supported sexual abuse.

[@mr.mirchenstein6549]

Or that he was innocent

[@PaulDoe79]

Or the charges were dropped when 2 investigations found out that the charges were bogus

[@Machete87]

@@PaulDoe79 or he paid enough hush money to shut them up otherwise they'd become an accident like many others that spoke out against Vince.

[@PaulDoe79]

@@Machete87 strange that wrestlers no longer with WWE speak highly and fondly of Pat. If those allegations were true I'd imagine many of these wrestlers would be bashing him. Many wrestlers state that they all knew Pat was gay and no one cared. But for someone lackluster using his name as the big mad molester might help them make some money

[@starrsmith3810]

Dude held his own against Vince. I admire that. He spoke straight facts and Vince just couldn’t handle being called out, hence why he proceeded to insult the dude’s skills as a ring announcer in a conversation where it doesn’t belong.

[@CTDisqoTeck78]

Outstanding video post and archival information. Thank you for sharing this.

[@ChaseK004]

Vince looked nervous as hell during this... this couldve killed his business but it didnt

[@nickharley2344]

Because he made them talk and sound foolish themselves. He barely said anything unless asked, hes highly intelligent

[@1111742]

Vince was acting during this. It's a trick to psych people out. Act nervous to make them get comfortable, take a few hits on the chin to make them feel powerful & then once their ego starts to take over, they will begin to make mistakes & then you wait for the shot & take it. Vince McMahon is very smart in terms of psychology.

[@streetsofsouthphilly]

@Philip Tucker what you said. Vince had to pay a lot of people off.

[@williamnelson502]

But it should have it was sickening!

[@nicole9volt]

@@1111742 Vince totally gave them the rope to hang themselves

[@TMoTV007]

Vince face thru this interview...priceless!

[@Ed-zp2xo]

Vince looks infuriated about twenty times in this show 😂

[@kennethtapia4711]

FINALLY Vince McMahon getting what's coming to him!

[@samuelmontalvo701]

Who's here in 2024 during the scandal?

[@darrenbullock9153]

If Donohoe actually let the wrestlers speak the revelations would have had chance to stick.

[@joshuawaltz9484]

Barry Orton sounds like his brother Cowboy Bob Orton. RIP Barry Orton.

[@yuedar]

god damn some of the questions from this crowd are just beyond stupid.

[@LongLostYellowRanger]

Why are those people in the audience laughing? What's so funny?

[@jeprice08]

LongLostYellowRanger I think they are laughing at Donahue's reactions as to what's happening on his show at a particular moment. It's almost like The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson. I think I know another reason on why they're laughing: I think...I think it's because this audience is not seriously buying any of this. It's like they have already made up their minds on who they are going to listen to and not listen to. It's also a possibility that they may not mean to laugh, it's just the way it's presented to them.

[@2002films]

Keith Evers No the women are laughing at the idea that men can be sexually harassed . Does that mind work, in you're head or is the hamster dead ? The light bulb is burnt out ? Too much hash to fry you're brain

[@jeprice08]

2002films That is a possibility and you are entitled to your opinion. Oh, by the way, it's "your," not "you're."

[@jeprice08]

2002films Thank you.

[@breal1183]

+LongLostYellowRanger Because the lies Vince is telling are so ridiculous.

[@orangenblue6981]

Murray is the only man in history I've seen legitimately hold his own against Vince. With that said, POOR choice of words at 16:03 :D

[@joey3627]

I know right? He can get on Vince's rear end but Patterson can't do the same to him?

[@davinalopez-oz1ez]

I read Hodgson’s own lawyer decided to drop him as a client after McMahon and his team of lawyers and independent private investigators discovered that this wasn’t Hodgson’s first sexual harassment lawsuit.Apparently, Murray Hodgson made a career out of suing ex employer’s for the same accusations. The judge in his case not only dismissed his lawsuit, but allegedly called Murray Hodgson , ‘A Habitual liar and con man.

[@BigBadJerryRogers]

@@davinalopez-oz1ez Where did you read that? I don't know what the outcome of all this was or what became of him since this. He should be interviewed today. I assumed that WWF settled with him and gave him a payout to end it. But I could be wrong.

[@joeblough261]

They were using straw man arguments and whataboutisms to deflect what was really going on. The fact is, everything they were accusing of was true in some way, and I did enjoy the announcer going toe to toe with Vince, after all the atrocities that have occurred under that sociopath's watch.

[@joeblough261]

@ny giants fan raider fan Your grammar and use of all caps are worse than an atrocity.

[@SnowWhiteTheU2]

This is insane. The interviewer is literally mocking these men who’ve come forward with serious sexual abuse allegations. This would never fly today

[@justinmcabee6692]

Wow,...👀 I had no idea what I was getting into with this. BUT HOLY COW. Vince is playing his cards deny deny deny.