Firing Line: William F. Buckley 'Muhammad Ali and The Negro Movement' (12/12/1968)

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Saturday August 06,2016: I have added the video again with the audio in sync. I encourage viewers to download a copy from KZbin themselves as I am concerned about videos being removed that should be in the "Public Domain" for educational purposes.
The Audio is a bit out of sync. I may upload another video in the near future to rectify the technical issue. Nonetheless, the intention of this video is for historical preservation.(stated prior to another version of the video being uploaded)
"Taped on 12/12/1968. When Cassius Clay joined the Black Muslims, his draft board reversed its earlier determination (made in order to keep him out of the Armed Forces so that he could continue to box) that he was not sufficiently intelligent to serve. When he was reclassified, he pleaded conscientious objection, was refused, and at the time of this program, was about to begin a term in jail".-Amazon.com

[@AS-yo2xz]

How many world class athletes can sit down and have a intellectual talk? that's quite telling.

[@TKOTonezzz]

Probably not many. I would put Kareem Abul Jabar on that list of intellectual athletes and smart conversation.

[@bigm2734]

@@TKOTonezzz true hes also very good

[@tartgreenapple]

Programs like this dont exist anymore. None that I can think of.

[@hamdanjantan399]

@@TKOTonezzz and James Brown also

[@hugogranda7930]

Brilliant man, charismatic, articulated...everything that he says make sense. His spirituality and faith are also a big component of who Muhammad Ali was.

[@mikeholt2237]

I'm a 68 yr old white man and I have no problem at all saying this man was my hero, and always will be. I pray God is rewarding him for all the good deeds he has done, all the children who had a chance in life because of him, and the opportunities he gave to black people and all races, and underdogs all over the world. All the while, knowing he should have retired years before he did, but he sacrificed his well being and kept boxing so he could continue to travel the world and continue to help people of all races who were less fortunate in life. Most people remember his boxing skills and loud mouth, but he wanted to be known for what he did for others. He was the greatest!!

[@makeit-takeit6707]

Hear, hear!

[@jeannetteduette6704]

Can't help noticing the civility between both men. One speaks, the other listens. Commentators today need to go back and watch these old interviews and take note of method of interviewing. The point of it all is hat both speakers recognize that they have an inhouse tv audience as well as a national tv audience to communicate with. These two speakers are following the communications protocols. No constant interruptions or talking over each other. Very interesting discussion.

[@paulz6491]

Well said!

[@bsdml]

The more I hear Ali speak, the more I love this man

[@Ptrrrrrrrr]

Really? I'm the opposite.

[@jajakay7609]

I just started really following Ali and you I feel what you meant. I feel the same

[@mrblueberry2139]

As a Muhammad Ali fan I have never seen this 1968 Buckley interview so thanks for uploading. He was about 26 at the time of this interview. Despite having a poor education in childhood and as a teenager one can see Ali intentions are to better himself as a man, help fight racism, not participate in adjust wars and be an ambassador for black equality - becoming a Muslim allowed him to do this with sincerity and conviction.

[@pinz2022]

MrBlueberry I was always a fan myself, but reviewing the history I'm convinced that Muhammed Ali nearly screwed himself out of his career by letting The Nation exploit him.

[@jgrizzy]

@@pinz2022 How he screw himself? He the GREATEST of ALL TIME inside and OUTSIDE the ring? Life is not all about your career! Its just an occupation! He stood up for what he BELIEVED in THATS WHAT MADE HIM GREAT. And even that is bland because ineqaulity is not a belief ITS SEEN N EVIDENT. THE WHITE MAN TRYD TO ROB HIM OF HIS CAREER. N HE STILL STANDS!! STILL REMAINS THE GREATEST. Wake up and smell the hate and racism since the BEGINNING OF TIME. You guys are just too comfortable here in AMERICA. Because the ones that rule probably look like YOU.

[@jgrizzy]

@@HaniffMohd21 why you here protecting peoples message. Nobody asked you. Go sit down son.

[@TKOTonezzz]

I am glad you enjoyed the video.

[@arthurkessler8084]

He once said " I am so pretty i should be on a postage stamp:. He was pretty but he should be on a postage stamp because he was a truly great and honest human being who exemplified all that is wonderful about the USA.

[@kinggilyard222]

Thanks for the upload, Ali's interviews are priceless. Truly the greatest of all times inside and outside the ring

[@yewwood7547]

+Lion King The greatest Draft Dodger too. El numero uno!!

[@yewwood7547]

brettfavreify He's not American. Fuck that chump.

[@googoogaga4812]

+Yew Wood Did you know that a Black man invented the main event performed at all rodeos for the last 100 years? Cowboy Bill Pickett invented the stunt called bulldogging (steer wrestling). In fact, he invented the word, too.Usually riding his favorite horse, Spradley, Pickett would chase down a steer released into a pen, jump off his horse and wrestle the animal to the ground. His trademark move was to bite the steer on the lip or nostril to subdue it quickly. No one had ever tried the stunt - with or without biting - before.Pickett was born in Taylor, Texas in 1870 to former slaves of Black and Native American heritage. By 12, he had quit school and was working odds jobs as a ranch hand and crop picker. Later, he joined his brothers in Oklahoma and started a “horse breaking” business. The Pickett boys entered rodeos to make extra money and that’s when Pickett introduced his bulldogging trick. Legend has it that Pickett got the idea from watching how cattle dogs on the plains would subdue the animals by biting it on the snout. So he tried it. Crowds were wowed by the improbable victory of man vs. beast. Pickett was a slight man, only 5-foot, 7-inches and the steers weighed between 800 and 1,000 pounds. Naturally, he lost a lot of teeth, too.Image from Wikipedia But his stunt was a hit and soon the 101 Ranch in Oklahoma signed him up for their Wild West Rodeo Show. Pickett moved his wife and nine children to live on the ranch and he toured with the show for 20 years. The “Dusty Demon” thrilled city slickers in New York’s Madison Square Garden, Canada, Mexico and Europe. He even performed his stunts for the British royal family (Queen Elizabeth’s grandparents).Pickett died in 1932 at age 62. He came out of retirement to help the 101 Ranch when it was struggling financially during the Depression. Perhaps slowed by age, Pickett was knocked down and kicked in the head by a horse he was roping and died of his injuries.The most widespread and egregious re-writing of American history took place with the myths of how the Old West was won. Missing is the truth about the thousands of African Americans who settled the frontier. They were trappers, scouts, homesteaders, cowboys, peace officers, cavalrymen and gunfighters. You won’t find stories about them in the dime novels or the old Western movies, but thousands of Black cowboys lived and worked in the West. And Bill Pickett was the best of the best.Like all the other African-American cowboys, Pickett never received the fame he was entitled to. Often he had to claim to be Indian because some rodeos wouldn’t allow Blacks to compete. And Western-movie cowboy stars Tom Mix and Will Rogers - who made millions in Hollywood - were Pickett’s assistants. (Pickett did star in two short silent films, now in the Library of Congress).

[@yewwood7547]

GooGooGaGa Black people invented everything.

[@TKOTonezzz]

You are welcome.

[@NondescriptMammal]

Much as I might find Buckley's politics generally disagreeable, he deserves credit for interviewing guests, including those with whom he disagrees, with respect and intelligence. Compared to the polarized biased mudslinging fests that are the norm today, the interviewers of the past are a breath of fresh air.

[@weloveyounay4794]

Under siege, under education, under power, under wealth and under majority, but Ali survived under these pressures with grace, dignity, and sheer passion to gain equality and justice for black people! The brave and the beautiful. Nothing less, nothing more. You get what you see. A true fighter in the ring of boxing and the ring of debate.

[@ettawing5955]

I love Muhammad Ali's indomitable spirit.

[@kevio6868]

It's hard to believe that this amazing 26 year old performed to wonderfully against the systematic far right Buckley. So impressive

[@lamotta00]

Buckley would have him for breakfast!

[@TKOTonezzz]

It was a fun match up.

[@habesha6883]

@Scan James Baldwin ate your daddy Buckley in their debate lmao...the majority yt audience voted in favour of James Baldwin

[@hannanoemhurayrah4558]

Love you mennn, i've been looking for this for like months, thank u!

[@reddeserted13]

Couldn't imagine this interview happening today, with an interviewer and subject like this.

[@TroyKC]

I love the "bell" that sounds off between sessions or during what may have been pauses for commercial breaks (adverts).

[@johnnwako2488]

This point has no significance!

[@RossRossiter]

amazing, I've watched a few of these william f buckley jr debates on you tube (if for no other reason than to marvel at his waspish affectations) but you soon realise just how dumbed down most mainstream media news and debate show's really are these days. The problem's worse in the US than the UK I think, but on the whole the same can be said for mainstream media on both sides of the atlantic.

[@izbavynasotlukavago]

+Ross Rossiter Waspish? Buckley was a Catholic.

[@TroyKC]

+izbavynasotlukavago oh But Buckley was very popular with a lot of US WASPS at the time & Buckley Jr. knew his target audience well.

[@RossRossiter]

+izbavynasotlukavago he was, but if you didn't know that he's the very essence of what I imagine a wasp to look/sound like. There are 2 trains of thought where the term wasp is concerned, one is white anglo saxon protestant, the other is a more loose interpretation of the term. You must admit he has east coast old money oozing from every orifice ?

[@RossRossiter]

+Jaesen Tamele (GunsGodNGadsden) Uh? My point was that todays news seems nothing more than a series of dumbed down press releases interspersed with shleb tittle tattle. There are no independent mainstream news sources. That's all. I don't quite know where your 'racist' tangent sprang from. If that's what you read between the lines of what I said then you're much mistaken. It happens that william f buckley, I've since learned was catholic, so strictly speaking can't have been a wasp, but he has adopted every waspish affectation with mastery.

[@izbavynasotlukavago]

+Ross Rossiter He publicly made no qualms about his faith defining him except for Humanae Vitae, artificial birth control, on which point of doctrine he was a dissenter. And so by necessity he was among those in the modern Church who say that one no longer has to accept every de fide article of faith. Those two issues made him Protestant-like, and i understand the point you're making and his target audience. Yes, Catholics kept a pretty close eye on him.

[@ettawing5955]

You're the Champ, Muhammad Ali.

[@a.ja.j8858]

the greatest of all times Muhammad Ali. Rip 🌹1942-2016🌹

[@TKOTonezzz]

Many feel the same sentiments commenting on this video. Thanks for watching.

[@ettawing5955]

Thank you very much.

[@steveeisenhowereisenhower7130]

I miss the champ

[@mohamedrahaman9238]

Ali was on so many shows..face the nation, firing line, etc. These shows were the top news shows of its time. I all the shows, Ali came out looking not only like he belonged, but actually got the better of the hosts. He may not have had formal education, but he was smart, articulate and very wise.

[@jeneanmcbrearty6184]

It's funny that some of the commenters here refer to Buckley as a WASP...white, anglo-saxon Protestant. Buckley was an upper-class Catholic.

[@zebraurchin]

+Jenean McBrearty Yes. Specifically he was an Irish-American Catholic (he actually studied in Mexico City's UNAM for his bachelor's!)... I don't agree with Buckley all the time but here he hollows out the ideology of the Black Muslims' "honorable" leader Elijah Muhammad. Ali was duped into buying into that scam. It's a shame since he was obviously bright.

[@kidneymcsecrets8402]

@RCR I was thinking what would Cassius Clay's career and longevity have been, without his religion. I think you couldn't have separated one from the other, and had the success he had. The other reason I replied to you is; that he was loved by so many, because he loved so many, no matter what colour they were, and no matter what the NOI instructed him to propagandise. May The Lord keep him.

[@Johnconno]

Is there any meaningful difference?

[@RockMacDonald23]

I am half wasp half French and honestly the thing about Buckley is that he embodies wasp culture and attitude so strongly that it even makes me want to vomit

[@ettawing5955]

Ali is a beautiful teacher.

[@duncanvince23]

Absolutely Honesty.

[@TKOTonezzz]

I am glad you enjoyed the video.

[@iDalisMediaTV]

amazing interview he broke it down Muhammad that is.

[@rucker3693]

This was buckley's main job; doing it for years. He went to Universities and did a lot of training and many many interviews to be good at it. He was always prepared with selected questions for his interviews. Ali has not go through the same EDUCATION SYSTEM buckley did. Buckley also being a republican made it his objective to make Ali look bad. Here is a little info on buckley's background: was an American public intellectual and conservative author[2] and commentator. In 1955 Buckley founded National Review, a magazine that stimulated the conservative movement in the late-20th century United States. For an entire generation, he was the preeminent voice of American conservatism and its first great ecumenical figure."[8] Buckley's primary contribution to politics was a fusion of traditionalist conservatism and classical liberalism; it laid the groundwork for the rightward shift in the Republican Party exemplified by Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. There is a lot more. This is the kind of intellect Ali confronted day in day out in the 60s and 70s even the 80s. And he kicked ass

[@roughhabit9085]

Well at least you googled him I suppose. Most morons in the comments section can’t even be bothered doing that . Ali didn’t encounter another intellect like this on TV because nobody did . Buckley was clearly the most literate and articulate person that was ever on American Television on a regular basis . This was not his main gig . He had about five careers not the least being the driving force behind the political movement he founded.

[@jimmaculate3802]

Incredible!

[@TKOTonezzz]

That sums it up.

[@a.ja.j8858]

Rip G.O.A.T.

[@TKOTonezzz]

Arguably, so.

[@advicesknowledge7977]

We miss you Muhammad Ali. You were and still the greatest man.

[@googoogaga4812]

ali won his case

[@dremndishot2695]

I wish we had people like this today

[@mrearlygold]

HERO!Maybe not yours but he was/is mine. G-d bless you Muhammad and G-d bless your Wife for being by your side and may you and yours have peace. Thank you for doing the right thing in the 1960's and I just want you to know you were not alone and definitely not forgotten.

[@amokhan111]

You have to be a racist or anti Muslim not to admire this man. This man is one of the biggest heros of the 20th century! No sportsman has ever impacted society like this man!

[@johnnwako2488]

Ali's acumen: Let's remember, that Ali was offered at least 1 professorship - at Oxford, in philosophy...

[@JamalMeasara]

NO CHANCE FOR ALL THESE GUYS AGINST ALI EVEN TO DEBATE ! ONE AGINST ALL! HE IS TO SMART FOR ALL THESE GUYS ! AND HE WAS NOT SCARED TO TALK ABOUT THE TRUTH ; RACE ; COULOUR ETC: LONG LIVE THE LEGEND OF THE GREATEST

[@TKOTonezzz]

Thanks for your enthusiasm.

[@joelnzinga5041]

Love Muhammad Ali!

[@TKOTonezzz]

Thank you for your comment.

[@ettawing5955]

29:16 No, you're getting upset.

[@robertcolson2233]

"Mr. Lee ?"

[@biglee93]

Mr Li, Mr Ali,

[@KurtRex1453]

Fascinating. While I do not have enough background to judge the veracity of either side I think that with slight tweeks Ali's arguments about white cultural domination could be made today and are.

[@taliquewhack1597]

4yrs later and this premise still stands!

[@mrwaqy]

Muhammad Ali accepted the real sunni islam in 1975.

[@stawmtroopa1968]

Best there ever was...Most well spoken champion that ever lived.

[@FierceViking]

Bret Hart ?

[@tubewatcher38]

Well, the supreme court eventually settled that issue - the legality of Ali's objection to being drafted.

[@petertorrey236]

That's my hero..right there.

[@artimuspyle299]

Muhammad Ali is a hero of mine and I'm white, Ali is so intelligent just misguided here, RIP champ.

[@ettawing5955]

Courageous.

[@selmergrunon]

this interview took place when black people were coming out of oppression...And there was a lot of resistance from the white community!As we can see it!

[@karlconnolly3994]

Racist oppression is thriving in America..the system is racist.

[@TKOTonezzz]

@@karlconnolly3994 These historical videos often help us draw parallels to current times.

[@TKOTonezzz]

@@karlconnolly3994 Thank you for the comment.

[@Mumon010]

28:00 "Much wiser" got some laughs.

[@user-zq4rs7np6h]

Какой же Мухаммад Красавчик!! Я так люблю его слушать! Он говорит и как будто поёт..не важно что Он говорит😁❤❤❤❤❤❤😗😗😗😗🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹Rip 😔😔

[@Tis1977]

Genauso ist es mein Freund da hast du wirklich die richtigen Worte gefunden wenn man Mohammed Ali sieht wie er kämpft wie er redet ist es immer Musik eine wunderschöne melodische Musik das Herzens das ein anspricht dass die Schönheit in Perfektion sieht, sei es in Bewegung oder wie er sich in seiner Sprache gibt einfach ein Segen des Allmächtigen ein Geschenk für uns.😇👏👏👏💝

[@shaynelahmed6323]

Interesting interview...I love Ali..but I really like the way the interviewer probed re the hon Elijah Muhammed influence on ALI...

[@heyricksander]

27:00 Ali makes some great points!

[@myronmartin5140]

why are we always charged with loving our opressors

[@TKOTonezzz]

Interesting statement and the Psychology behind it. Also, sounds like a good song lyrics.

[@TKOTonezzz]

Nice response. I am glad you enjoyed the video.

[@MatlasX]

Was that Jeff Greenfield @ 45:25?

[@indyfilm]

Poorly educated at the time, but highly intelligent. Even though he seemed to be blindly following Elijah Muhammad and therefore probably misunderstood what happened with Malcolm X.

[@artimuspyle299]

Afrofusion Best comment on KZbin ; )

[@nameyoufriend]

Were you there?

[@pertjacanape]

Education-> Educe -> to coax or to draw out, as in, some desired behavior. Prussian educational model was adopted in US. It is what US public schools are based on. It was devised in Prussia not to foster critical thinking but compliance. Prussian soldiers had disobeyed commanding officers in battle. In response, the educational model originated there, to train the next generation so they would obey their orders better. Public education in the US is a horrid business.

[@jadezee6316]

Ali..was a man of integrity regarding his stand against war. very few can say the same

[@riccobarnes9746]

Jade Zee - Exactly ! Like Dumb Donald Trump !

[@aarondigby5054]

HEM wanted his followers to abstain from sex and fornication but HEM was a hypocrit committing adultery and impregnating his teenage secretaries, HEM is no better than David Koresh and Jared Geoffs. I was glad when Ali separated from them NOI clowns. I'm glad when he recognized his mistakes and admitted he was wrong for siding agsint Malcolm X, , he was young when he chose NOI just a 22yr old.

[@noffmemphisslim1377]

🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟"Long Live Muhammad"!!!!!!!!!!!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@speakyopeacetv6795]

The Greatest

[@davida.4933]

Ali changed in later years. He preached love to all, regardless of race or nationality. Look at his grave site and what it says...

[@johnnwako2488]

He was always like that, but concentrated on racism in the US, from whites towards blacks + going against the Vietnam war - let's remember that there was much to do for blacks in the US in the 1960s...

[@christopherbacotti7952]

Buckley is a white, privileged, erudite conservative. He approaches the discussion from his ivory tower context. He appeared unprepared to lead a meaningful, issue focused discussion ("will you pay your debt?")... Ali, without any formal education, intuitvely and correctly sizes up the social tapestry of his time, and walks into the lion's den to take on all conservative comers. It is easy to overlook minor "inaccuracies"; is was remarkable to to watch a great champion try to educate those who were already indoctrinated and believed they already knew better.

[@Thekelvin7777]

Well said Christopher you may be interested to know that Buckley, has many documented links to the cia and fbi(an informer according to Wikipedia ). Other scholarly people suggest he was a paid operative to promote right wing thinking.His father was also cia . When he interviews Chomsky (articulate left winger ) Buckley resorts to threatening to punch him in the mouth ,which is pretty curious stuff . And here Buckley does his best to undermine Ali .truly I think Buckley is a disgrace . The book pied piper for the establishment reveals Buckley s motivations btw.

[@ettawing5955]

29:14 No. You're getting upset. Muhammad Ali. Sincere. Peace Of Mind. Formidable. 33:33 How did the devil make out so well?

[@jadezee6316]

Ali....may not know the words Buckley does...but i ask after watching this who do you think is being sincere here?

[@michaelorsini9695]

Susskind comes across as a very little, petty and angry man in this video. He comes across in the same manner in his frontline interview with William F. Buckley which people can also watch on KZbin.

[@abdullahahmed7376]

Jonh Lewis, any one who reads what was end of that boxer you will be so shocked beyond believe. Even though he donated some of his money and fought for America because you would not see in so-called mainstream media. German opponent who fought J Lewis came to America to pay his funeral expenses and in tears.Why Mr Buckley didn't brought this to the attention to his own audiences. check this out please posters .

[@jeromeclemons9723]

Joe Louis was hounded until his death by the Us government for taxes ! He donated 2 million dollars for a battleship and because he just signed the check over to the government because the check was first in his name they wanted him to pay the taxes . I think MR. Frank Sinatra paid Joe Louis tax bill if I’m not mistaken.

[@aarondigby5054]

Joe Louis went to serve the war effort in Europe and donated his entire purse to military relief charities and when the IRS got wind of it they took everything Joe owned, even the $67 his mama left him, left him broke and destitute and made sarcastic demeaning remarks about what they'd done to him.

[@ehooper66]

We could sure use this type of debate today we have come along way since then and something like this could get us to the next step in race relations?

[@DOGANBAYRAK]

when this was originally broad casted?

[@TKOTonezzz]

DOGAN BAYRAK 12/12/1968

[@DOGANBAYRAK]

TKOTonezzz Thank you..... it is excellent....

[@macha3191]

Lol, he keeps saying the Quran says they can take part in no wars where people die and then finally says "unless there's a holy war." He's automatically lost the argument if Buckley was correct about the legal language around conscientious objector status.

[@skhotzim_bacon]

The Vietnam war was the furthest thing from a holy war

[@therumpusroom614]

I sympathize with Ali's sentiments. But overall, I'd have to agree with Bill here, which is a rare occasion.

[@manbearpig4772]

I'm guessing Ali had an IQ of about 90.

[@ibrahimyange1528]

@@manbearpig4772 Tell me how do you measure a person's intelligence, a man who can speak a language properly, a top athlete and someone more worthy than you worthless dog crap stain. Can you explain that? Can you explain how a man with an "IQ" of 90 is more significant in the world than you with your 2000 "IQ"

[@sanic3985]

@@manbearpig4772 If you're referring to the IQ test he did for the draft, Ali's dyslexia played a big part in that result.

[@conjurerwoman9726]

Muhammad Ali A REAL MAN!

[@johnh7101]

I loved Ali, but he was blind folded by the Nation of Islam and his hero, Elijah Muhammad, who was conducting extramarital affairs with young Nation secretaries-​​which would constitute a serious violation of Nation teachings. After first discounting the rumors, Malcolm X came to believe them after he spoke with Muhammad's son Wallace and with the women making the accusations. Muhammad confirmed the rumors in 1963, attempting to justify his behavior by referring to precedents set by Biblical prophets. So how can Ali sit here at this interview saying that he believed in the sanctity of marriage etc?

[@zackiinu7194]

John H The power of the Pussy.

[@sanic3985]

He realised the teachings of Elijah Muhammad were wrong years after this, when Elijah died in 1975. That is one thing people forget to reference in this comment section, the fact that he converted to Sunni Islam in 1975. In doing that, Ali moved away from the radical teachings of the Nation of Islam and became closer to what Malcolm X saw in his realisation, towards the end of his life. Ali was intelligent, but impressionable, Malcolm X had realised the truth about Islam much, much sooner, if only Ali was convinced then, their friendship would still have been strong and Ali would have left the Nation of Islam sooner.

[@qmuchsauce6670]

🐐

[@KhamadiPlusOne]

✊🏿

[@AtticusStount]

Fix the audio, please.

[@TKOTonezzz]

+Atticus Stount Ni I intended to reupload if I able to adjust the audio making it in sync. I did not get around to it I do apologize. I will when I get time to upload a better version with good audio. Thank you for viewing my channel.

[@TKOTonezzz]

Audio fixed (Re-uploaded video/ Please follow link):kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4DCqJevfpamoKM&feature=em-upload_owner

[@biglee93]

WHAT sorry I'll go back in time and replace all the mics with blue yeti's

[@TKOTonezzz]

@@biglee93 What does that mean?

[@biglee93]

XD

[@shay9249]

we guna get it on cos we wont get along

[@ishmealjackson1212]

The greatest man to ever box

[@terrybequette1174]

Thanks for posting this. I have never seen it nor knew that Ali had been on Buckley's show. I was always put off by Buckley's smug and superior body language which was somehow really pronounced in the context of Ali and the subject matter. I try to imagine a white conservative pundit today doing a similar program with a leader of Black Lives Matter, with an all white audience and more white journalists poised to ask questions. This fight goes to Ali on a decision.

[@michaellangan4450]

Jaye What peter says about paul, tells you more about peter than paul.

[@doubleghod]

they don't make em like Buckley anymore! He was the best.

[@Thekelvin7777]

Best at what ?

[@Thekelvin7777]

+sutter75 buckles objective here is to undermine Ali wind him up do anything to discredit him . I think Ali s the greater man here by a long way As the interviewer you have vastly greater control of the situation because you ask the questions . I can't admire Buckley at all he says nothing of interest it's all posturing and clever looks and superior tone

[@jenzenhall7026]

Buckley - pompous git! 'If an individual takes a lenient view of the moral law, he may well have a high opinion of himself and be conceited, because he judges himself by a false standard.' - Kant.

[@roberthernandez982]

the white guy looks stoned

[@kevinnoscoe6284]

This was the great man as he struggled with his demons. His ideology softened as he got older, but his greatness still Shown thought.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@SeamusMcMichael]

Mixed feelings about this interview.

[@hunterphillips5142]

47:46, holy shit. the statement is ironic obviously but even the his tone of voice coincidentally mimics obama

[@aarondigby5054]

Barry Obummer wasn't even relevant, so how can anybody here mimicking Obummer.

[@tedibair]

DaveKarl - How Polite of You! ...

[@sawedoffshoddy9488]

May Allah grant you the highest level of Jennah Champ among the Prophets, the Martyrs, and the righteous. He eventually excepted Orthodox Islam , like Malcolm and left the nation of Islam.

[@TheAsSalamAlaikumRevolution]

"Common enemy"

[@TKOTonezzz]

Thank you for your comment. That sounds scary.

[@encaraquesocpetit7746]

note the subtle slights of a man who traffics in intellectualism but has trouble pronouncing "Mr. Uh-lee." "...Muuh..hammed.. elijah" instead of Elijah Muhamad. This, from a man who never stumbles on matters of academic and historical quotations. I am not a Muslim, but I think the difficulty in respecting different views in a pluralistic fashion is evident. Ravi Zacharias is one of the few today who can properly hold conversation with men of the caliber of Ali. The relevance is that he remains a patron saint of sort of conservatism. I'd categorize myself as such, but one who appreciates the engagement of alternate views while still standing on principle.

[@Thekelvin7777]

Seriously I think Buckley is intentionally mispronouncing Ali's name as a tactic to make him angry .

[@ettawing5955]

Yup.

[@ettawing5955]

Buckley is intentionally mispronouncing Muhammad Ali.

[@charleswinokoor6023]

Ali: Naive with a capital N. Bill: “In my point of view what Elijah M. is doing is diseasing (sic) your mind.” exactly right

[@TroyKC]

The Court System in the USA eventually overturned all of these things, and so, eventually Ali was proven justified. Now you can like Ali or hate him, that's fine. I'm just speaking of the facts. (I believe this was the Supreme Court later on).

[@ettawing5955]

29:15 no no you're getting upset.

[@ettawing5955]

33:01 I imagined he could deceive anybody he wants to.

[@wavyamar]

Even though Muhammad Ali left NOI a deviant cult you can not blame him for his views for the environment of the time he was living in and experiencing. The racial segregation and civil rights era gave African-Americans that view of White America. Muhammad Ali after-all became a Sunni Muslim later in life as Malcom X when he came back from Pilgrimage

[@kidneymcsecrets8402]

@AZ Agreed! The US was still segregated, and would remain very much so, for quite some time. At the moment, due to recent and very frequent experience(s)with a few members of one or two local temples, I've concluded that NOI is now more than ever a gathering of embittered highly impressionable individuals who aid and abet the criminals and their unlawfulness, in the ghetto of their city, if not directly benefiting from those activities. But in the political climate and overt racism of 1967-68, I'd have to say recognition of their effectiveness in organising and self empowerment is evident. They were necessary to Muhammed Ali, and Muhammed Ali was necessary to many revolutionaries.

[@SGA01]

LOL! Sunni Muslim, today's sunni muslims (not all) even if only make Muhammad Ali (obviously if only they could make Prophet pbuh) as their idol there will be very less blood spilling.

[@zaraqali8662]

+Syed Abbas Naqvi asalaamalaykum my brother I don't understand your comment?

[@SGA01]

Adam Ali there is a reason why you can't understand it. I can't break it down for you.

[@zaraqali8662]

And wat would that reason be my brother?

[@sainttrunks1982]

Back when they were allowed to have Real Talks (& Topics) on Basic Tv.

[@jerryashlock5519]

Muhammad left the Nation of Islam..but remained a Muslim... One can read accounts from the years of boxing and activism and all recount that he loved all people regardless of race or creed .. Ali had an injustice served on him for his courageous stand against the unjust war we prosecuted in Viet Nam

[@ehooper66]

Ali always seemed sincere about his religion and did many great things outside of boxing but he had a terrible weakness for women lol

[@emzid5105]

Unfortunately, he is far from being the only one, we are so many to have the same problem... He was a great person but was humain like us, so many people seem to forget this...

[@johnnwako2488]

Weakness for women - as a man?

[@leodurocher5454]

it was so sad to see his brain slowing down in late 70s, what a self inflicted tragedy. I never even knew he was sick until 1988

[@kevinjones8929]

His brain had already slowed here. Listen to what he said. Lol

[@riccobarnes9746]

Leo Durocher - Excuse me but his brain never slowed down ! His Parkinson’s was a motor skills issue, thanks ! 🙏🏾

[@riccobarnes9746]

Kevin jones - 🖕🏾You know where you can put this right ?

[@TKOTonezzz]

It was painful to see.

[@charisparrott6177]

@@kevinjones8929 Only to a simpleton like you.

[@SuperJonmc]

I dont like what he's saying about malcolm X

[@TKOTonezzz]

+FEEZ GUNNA We must the Nation of Islam excommunicated Malcolm X and many NOI members considered Malcolm X a trader. It may have been wrong, unfair to many of us but these harsh views of Malcolm continued on by many in the NOI.Even Farrakhan has expressed resentful words towards Malcolm X after his death I can't at the moment cite the specific speech lol.

[@levilumsden8724]

Everyone show there true intent when a black man stand up straight.

[@skyd3n]

respect to Ali

[@ettawing5955]

40:15 I forgot what I was going to say.

[@gotnotruck]

What a dork Buckley was!

[@georgethomasdavisjr7171]

I love Buckley's tactic when Muhammad brings up Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. on the racist majority issue. He dodged that bullet, by firing a bunch of questions to veer away from the issue. I found it funny how Buckley completely disregards the long list of Arab nations and leaders that have support Ali as a "true Muslim" [he looks pissed during this part though], and fires back with Malcolm X. Though that has nothing to do with Ali's acknowledgement.

[@williamellis9851]

+Tribune of The Plebs so does christianity, like slavery, hanging, castration, etc, no year of jublilee, ...all hypocrites

[@tyroneprice6642]

Muhammad Ali was a great fighter not a great student of Political or Social Science. William F. Buckley great Political analyst and ex CIA man in Mexico.

[@R0GUER0CK]

32:20 Hes kind of bring realistic,.I think that is possible in any population.