First Dirt: Is the New Toyota Tacoma Trailhunter BETTER Than the TRD Pro?

[@motoapes3623]

$63,900 before markups. Quick math: $6,400 down (10%) + tax and interest (7.64) 60 Months Payment: $1260 @12.5% of take home pay you should be earning $157,500 annually to be looking at this car (assuming the appropriate taxes are coming out of your paycheck). National average wage (US Census): $63795. Percentage making $150k annually: approx. 8.3% 5 Year price increase Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro: 2019 MSRP: $42,960 2024 MSRP: $63,900 49% increase Wage growth 2019-2024: 1.7% (Source: US Treasury) These price increases far outpace inflation and wage growth. Toyota is targeting 8% of total market. Or people who just want to act fiscally irresponsible😂.

[@simplebroco9577]

I appreciate this comment. Thank you for the info!

[@jppilotadventurez5251]

This comment need to be pinned! Introduce some sense onto people.

[@XloMotion]

Taco bros will completely ignore this comment.

[@tylerkstevens]

Money supply has increased over 50 % so it’s just tracking true inflation. CPI is fake. Wages increase last. Centillion effect.

[@tigerbiterhater]

Or we can just accept the fact that there’s actually people out there with money. People still buying over msrp. 🤔

[@4rr44E]

$65K!!! One word… nope.

[@scoobygms210]

People paid 75k for the first gladiators and people been paying almost 90k for fully loaded F150s the world's crazy !! No one likes money !!

[@El_Gato718]

65k could get a used TRX or Raptor. I think 50k for the TRX and 55k for the TH.

[@NM-235]

It has cost 60k to get a well equipped rubicon for years. This is what happens when the government shuts down the economy and prints money for 3 years. It’s not political it’s simple economics. Increasing the supply of money without a commensurate increase in the size of the economy results in reduced value of the money ( inflation ). The published rates are lies. Look at the price of groceries or houses everything is up 20-50%. But wait gas isn’t up because we kept draining the strategic oil reserves.

[@jeremyf5051]

Wait, $65k? Do you know where we can get them that cheap? Imagine dealer markups will make it $70k at least.

[@ezneil5092]

​@@scoobygms210Bold for you to asume alot of people don't have the kind of money and just keep the money themselves be passive and stay poor lol😂

[@Hookemdavid]

After taxes, you’re looking at 67-70k. Insane for a midsize truck.

[@laithalmas8413]

more than that, you'll never get a TRD Pro or Trailhunter that isn't loaded with $5k worth of options that you don't want or need

[@Cocky.Rooster]

And only 2 usable seats 🫤

[@dansnowman29]

Dealer mark-up, or whatever they call it. More like $80k

[@Ryles890]

Be a 90k truck in Canada, by the time you finance it or 6 or 7 years at the new "industry standard loan rates" probably cost 110-120k.

[@borhotkaar3480]

And a 1200$ payment….

[@scotchbrite1241]

That price is outrageous Toyota!

[@mansoor123hussain]

I hear what you’re saying but we live in an era where people pay $8 for a damn coffee

[@Keefer24]

@@mansoor123hussainnever in my life would I expect people to pay 70k for a 4cyl midsize truck. That’s certified insanity right there 😂

[@loganfoos5854]

Buy an sr5

[@yt7037]

That's why I always end up buying diff brand

[@lordcorgi6481]

I can't wait for the Sienna Trailhunter review 🤣

[@drive-channel1834]

I've got 2023 Corolla Trailhunter GR Sport TRD Offroad, it's nice. Full-time 4WD, triple Difflocks, etc

[@theanlong7854]

Prius TRD pro with fox shocks😂

[@theirthereandtheyre2947]

$40k was my max for what I paid for a new truck. I wanted a midsize but settled on a Ram 1500. There has to be a huge market correction. A new truck is only new for a very short period of time, after that you’re stuck with a huge bill for 84 months.

[@TomStarcevich-fb3qo]

Ordered my 2021ram1500 classic tradesman quad cab 4x4 v6 with lots of extras paid 40k with taxes and a extended warranty last good good deal 👍 before prices went crazy 😮

[@270eman]

@@TomStarcevich-fb3qo I got the 23 Tacoma SR5 4x4 V6 DBL cab 6ft bed for 41 with the technology package. You can still get a 24 SR 4x4 for less than 38 or SR5 for 43. I got the 23 for the V6.

[@TomStarcevich-fb3qo]

@@270eman good price nice truck 🛻👍

[@kx8960]

@@TomStarcevich-fb3qo I paid $53k for my loaded w/moonroof 2024 ZR2, but I'm ok with that as it has more power, and more offroad capability with it's front and rear lockers, and better offroad angles and clearance, and smaller size and turning radius, oh, and the 360deg cameras and dual TFT screens as I usually go out alone. I might give up some cargo and towing capacity, but that's a good tradeoff for the better offroad capability.

[@TomStarcevich-fb3qo]

@@kx8960 nice truck 👍 good price

[@TimSaundersC4]

I did the math, and the Trail Hunter, priced at $63,000 USD, is equivalent to $86,000 CAD. In Ontario, there's a 13% tax, so the total cost for the Trail Hunter is $97,000 CAD.

[@kabloosh699]

At those prices they are making the Ranger Raptor look like a deal at 57-58k and the ZR2 the best bang for your buck at 48-52k.

[@shmac96]

Dont forget your carbon tax thats meant to help save the environment by taking even more of your money. Good times!

[@jtomtl]

86K for a small truck, No means no, I am a Toyota guy but it’s ridiculous pricing

[@mknervy]

yup, now add fees and let's say you finance some of that 97k, so interest as well, and now it's well above 100k CAD. so f'ed up I'd say!

[@tobinkern5389]

Sounds like Canada sucks

[@Chuffmaster654]

The tech bros of Boulder and Denver will love this!

[@dawg7750]

I'll keep my 2021 Tacoma Off Road thanks.

[@useryggfdcc]

Installed Bilstein 6112 front, rear ICON AAL with Bilstein 5100. Steel front bumper with 9000lb winch. EXCELLENT TRUCK.

[@weemackee]

Same. I payed $38k for my 2020 TRD Off Road with Premium package in April 2020. If I were to put $30k in upgrades into it, it'd be a superior vehicle to any stock TRD Pro.

[@Keefer24]

@@weemackeeI’m sure you’ll look cool with that going over the speed bumps in the mall parking lot 😂

[@eight0eightDVS]

@@useryggfdccI added Fox 2.5 front coilovers w/ reservoirs, Fox 2.0 Rear Shocks, Icon 2.5" AAL, JBA UCAs. To my 04 double cab TRD-off-road and they are great additions for my truck especially for off-road capabilities. Next on my list is to add a supercharger.😂

[@jasonpaiva4793]

The shiny black plastics look funny, fender flares & bumper accents & hood scoop. I have a 22 TRD off-road w a plain hood, it has way better sight lines than a scooped hood. Great comparison Roman & Andre.

[@71gmonet]

If they are going glossy they may as well paint match or even better paint accenting like they used to do on the previous generation (not current) Limited 4 Runners. My favorite was a Limited grey metallic with the charcoal (not black) fender flares.

[@donays8241]

I can't WAIT to see the MPG TEST ON THIS TRUCK.

[@bawintermage8351]

Who cares at this price point? Im sorry, but cars and trucks are way overpriced. Its time for a market correction. And the people who claim that, it doesn't matter if you have money, are either lying trolls or part of the problem by paying mortgage ($900+) payments for a depreciating hunk of pre rusted tin and turbos.

[@janetairlines1351]

Agreed. New vehicles are not remotely worth it anymore

[@ryansheard8092]

I want to know where a $900 mortgage is? Mine is $2000 a month and that's CHEAP!

[@andrewsbbq]

@@ryansheard8092I’m $900/week

[@bawintermage8351]

@@ryansheard8092 I wanted to strike a balance between what was obviously too high for a car payment and low mortgage payments and juxtapose that against what some fools are paying. I've heard of $1600 payments for trucks.

[@ryansheard8092]

@@bawintermage8351 I don't have a truck payment, but ok. It's easier to just pay for the thing outright than it is to finance. I think your anger is directed in the wrong places.

[@theaveragewoodsman6002]

That price is insane. Especially with the incoming dealer markups.

[@ShadowBend]

Nissan Frontier looking real good these days. This price is wild. If purely offroading, maybe this makes sense. But it cant even fit 4 decent size humans comfortably.

[@Ldiepian]

got my 23 Pro4x for 38k & that's looking even more like a steal now

[@lulop022882]

Local dealership is selling frontiers like hot cakes. Co worker needed a small pickup and bought a frontier based on my recommendation. She told me the dealership had just sold 28 the day before 🙀. I’m a Toyota die hard, but come one Toyota. I’m hoping they release a Stout

[@Keefer24]

@@lulop022882I leased one in 22 for a year while I was living in Montana for work, it was a awesome truck it was a fully loaded pro 4x if I remember correctly the MSRP on it was 45-48 k. It’s still a naturally aspirated V6 and it was awesome in the snow.

[@4rr44E]

Bought my 22 Pro-4X for $41K with everything except leather. I’m super thrilled with it and am glad I picked it given Toyota going to a 4cyl and sky-high prices.

[@SanDiegoFreddy]

@ShadowBend the Frontier is looking even better now that they announced the changes for 2025.

[@nm-qt2hb]

"smaller kids or legless friends"🤣🤣

[@kx8960]

...I don't have any legless friends....YET...(a few moments later, with a chainsaw...)...🤣

[@nm-qt2hb]

@@kx8960 The seats may be fantastic for the Baja 1000. I doubt that any person doing normal off-road adventures will ever benefit from them. Not to mention the loss of rear leg room.

[@kx8960]

@@nm-qt2hb Yup. To me, it's a gimmick, and looks really weird. Oh, and what happens when those shocks start leaking oil all over the interior?

[@ellerybice3787]

Remove the rear seats, plant them in the bed. Like the old Subaru Brat. Now your interior has room to PARTY! 🤓😎🥸🤩🥳🥳🥳

[@rickeycooley9139]

My back seat in my Tacoma has never had any one on it. It’s used for hauling guns lots of em.

[@EdwardVarner]

Car companies are smoking some good stuff when determining pricing these days.

[@beexiong2995]

Talk to your government 😂

[@qbanlink25]

@@beexiong2995 if you live here it's your government too pal, want to change it, vote Red this Nov otherwise put up or shut up.

[@deedspm9]

Don't buy them. But the people who can buy them still will and the prices will continue to soar

[@JohnSmith-zi9or]

Companies can't do anything about inflation. We voted for this. But hey, no more mean tweets.

[@andyleo8418]

It's not crazy if it sells.

[@wiks101]

63K for a midsize WOW - I would never be a customer at that money!

[@tobinkern5389]

This is the midsize Raptor or TRX. And how much are those trucks? $63K aint bad

[@JPE_DRAEB]

@@tobinkern5389 Actually the Ranger Raptor is 55K.. So yeah Toyota is bad and it takes a few years for them to work out the bugs! Just look at the reliability of the new Tundra! Not paying 66K for a truck made in Mexico either!

[@Dusdaddy]

@@JPE_DRAEB And the Ranger is $7k over the Chevy ZR2 so why not get that?

[@JPE_DRAEB]

@@Dusdaddy Good point but Chevy not been very reliable IMO. Plus they don't have a v6 as well! Besides I rarely see a ZR2 on the lot!

[@garykarczewski6678]

Agreed. Over priced junk with way too many features that are not needed. Better to sell with less to make the trucks more affordable. If you want additional crap that doesn't make the truck really any better the go aftermarket.

[@mechmat12345]

The 4Runner is usually a few thousand more than the Taco which means the 4R TRD Pro will be pushing $70k which is the same price as the GX550 Overtrail, which is just a way better vehicle as far as i can tell.

[@Tylander_]

Ya if you can wait 3 years to get a GX

[@Elsuntan]

On your suggestion went in took a look at the GX550 and you are completely right, you get a ton more and a proven Prado origin. If you are in the 67,000 range you might as well go to 69,000.

[@sunny051488]

@@Elsuntanyea but it’s like 89k after markup

[@Kakiharaichii]

Everything that made me love cars has disappeared in recent years. I’ll but a couple of old cars and keep them forever. It is out of control.

[@briskhockey]

I got a 2018 frontier last year. It's my newest vehicle I've ever owned. Everyone seems to shit frontiers for being outdated, but having a truck that actually feels like a truck with buttons feels amazing. The highest tech it has is a display with Bluetooth built in. And I love it.

[@Keefer24]

@@briskhockeyI leased the new gen a couple years back while I was living in Montana for work. Had it for one year, i truly enjoyed it.

[@YWUBHYD]

100% got everything I wanted from this video PLEASE KEEP MAKING MORE OF THESE STYLE VIDS, they’re the best 🎉

[@Axsel85]

I figured they would be priced around that but still was surprised😅

[@HD-on2eg]

It’s like Toyota is giving a big middle finger to all its loyal customers. The year over year price increases are just insane.

[@brandonrides8953]

$65k and made in Mexico. Maximum profit!

[@signkutter9218]

You act like "made in Mexico" is something to be ashamed of ...get over it ...toyota made in the USA doesn't mean any better.

[@mattbrew11]

@@signkutter9218it makes it better from a GDP perspective but that concept is likely beyond your grasp

[@signkutter9218]

@mattbrew11 So the quality of your U.S assembled truck is better because of GDP? 😅🤣... 👍. Tacoma has been built in Mexico for over a decade....they also build the Hilux ...

[@kx8960]

@@signkutter9218 ...LOL Still missing the concept....

[@signkutter9218]

@kx8960 silly boy talkin economics on the subject of build quality

[@Constipatedoverlord]

At my dealer (socal) we got a prototype tacoma come in for trouble codes. It wasnt anything serious, grille shutter, because we assumed it was from the offroading they were doing. It was thoroughly dirty and could tell they had taken it through some decent water. Truck was plenty muddy. They seem alright. Nothing to lose your mind over.

[@Jeff-ib7wc]

By 2028 they will have these absolutely sorted and bulletproof. Until then- Have fun early adopter Guinea pigs!

[@crack_of_dawn]

Wow I was considering replacing my wife's 2021 TRD Off Road with a 2025 Pro but for that price I'd rather just switch her to a Ranger Raptor.

[@paulm6481]

said no one ever

[@crack_of_dawn]

@@paulm6481 I literally said it, and meant it.

[@Kid_with_an_Evo]

I’ve seen those going for as much as $83k in Washington. Just depends on the dealer.

[@Jeff-ib7wc]

Ford is absolute crepe compared to Toyota and you know it. Nice bluff though.

[@crack_of_dawn]

@@Jeff-ib7wc Not a bluff at all. I don't have an allegiance to *any* car company. I don't own a Toyota, my wife does. She loved her previous ranger that she had for ~150k miles and would absolutely happy to jump back into one.

[@michaelneild5133]

I LIKE THIS STYLE OF VIDEO! YOU GUYS DID A GOOD JOB! I THINK THAT I WOULD GO WITH THE TRAIL HUNTER ALSO! VERY ENJOYABLE VIDEO

[@JordanMadera]

I am pretty sure the 4Runner TRD Pro and Trailhunter will be as pricey if not more. That price makes me consider a Land Cruiser 250 series as a serious option.

[@JPE_DRAEB]

Might as well go with a Lexus GX than a Land cruiser!

[@mechmat12345]

For $65k I'll definitely take a Land Cruiser. Best balance of off road, efficiency and comfort imo. I assume the 4Runner TRD Pro will be pushing $70k, and I'd definitely take the GX Overtrail at that price.

[@Jeff-ib7wc]

Land Cruiser has like 8.5” ground clearance. The GX Overtrail has 8.7”. You get 11” on the Trailhunter model WITH a factory warranty!

[@JPE_DRAEB]

@@Jeff-ib7wcDon't you get a V6 with the GX?

[@CrumResearch]

​@@Jeff-ib7wc11" clearance is pretty good, like in our Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. Cybertruck offers even more -- 16" ground clearance.

[@Lets-do-this-]

Maybe I’m cheep but I do not think a Tacoma should be more than the mid 50’s come on people Great video once again, guys

[@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vI]

You are not cheap oh no instead silly. This is a excellent mid size truck and worth its price. This is 2024 and not 1999

[@270eman]

Yeah that's why I got the 23 SR5 V6 4x4 . 41k. I am never going to need all that crap on the expensive trims and I can upgrade the suspension myself how I like for a few thousand. I really prefer the basic all paint matched style on the SR5 anyway. Looks like luxury in silver. I have seen 24 SR5s going for 43k. Thats the deal. Upgrade later if you want offroad crap.

[@iskdude9922]

If ypu want the nice shit make more money....

[@Keefer24]

@@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vI70-73 k after mark ups with a big interest rate ? For a 4cyl mid size truck ? Just so all the posers can look cool going over the speed bumps in the Victoria secret parking lot 😂🤡

[@Keefer24]

@@iskdude9922Nice shit ? You’ll never be able to shame a real man into paying 70-73 k ( after Toyota markups) for a 4cyl mid size truck, I got my diesel cheaper than that. This is another Toyota poser truck, built for the wimps like you who don’t off road at all but want to look cool hitting the speed bumps in the complex you’re picking your wife’s boyfriend up from 😂🤡

[@originalname9999]

With these prices Nissan would be stupid to not jump all over that 35k-45k segment. As of now if i was in the market for this sized truck that pro4x would looking really good. Luckily I got my TRD off road in 2020 for 34k and does everything I expect From it.

[@perryrhodan1936]

Those Old Man Emu shocks are very nice.

[@frh-freerangehuman]

Andre diligently changing the conversation away from sausage 😂

[@zmotorpro]

I like the impromptu reviews. Thanks for the review and thanks for the payload numbers!

[@fscottgray9784]

Trail hunter would be my pick but the interior still looks pretty tight for anyone over 6 foot tall.

[@curtl1694]

Ranger Raptor or Trailhunter? “Raptor of course” is what Roman was thinking.

[@chrisb9478]

Ranger Raptor, if you like plastic oil and transmission pans & plastic drain plugs. 😂

[@IKnewMickey]

I work in the plastics industry. Some plastics are harder and more durable than thinly stamped metal plus plastic doesn't rust. We, as midnight shift machine operators, were throwing our test run parts (NOT Ford parts) as hard as we could against brick walls with zero issues. Couldn't break chip or shatter our parts. And that's before QC got them 😂.

[@theaveragewoodsman6002]

Ford has the most recalls of ANY brand 3 years in a row.

[@chris-qo1nt]

Toyota has built up a lot of brand capital that they’re cashing in with now

[@marcg.3830]

@@chrisb9478 the 2.7 doesn’t use the plastic oil pan anymore and I would be surprised if the 3.0l does. Toyota uses plastic transmission pans also. So stop acting like Ford is the only automaker that uses plastic oil and transmission pans as many other automakers do.

[@lbjailer]

Nice trucks, but I like the ZR2 or Raptor better.

[@donleamon8653]

63k just affirms my decision to repower my beloved 80 Series with an LT swap. She's already built, locked, new leather. For less than 30k I should be able to have way more power, better fuel milage and have enough left over to do a decent re-squirt of the exterior.

[@LPM84.]

Sorry to say this Andre, but the TRD PRO and the Trailhunter are not a close or direct ZR2 BISON competitor. Maybe a base ZR2, and Ford Raptor Competitor. -No factory front locker. - 33s not 35s factory installed. -less lift/ground clearance/Aproach/departure ect..ect. Toyota as well as other manufacturers have priced these trucks out of the relm of what most people will ever pay for a midsized truck.

[@fernandopuga6906]

And the ZR2 Bison still is 5k cheaper

[@mattbrew11]

@@fernandopuga6906and MADE IN THE USA

[@kx8960]

Not even directly comparable to a "regular" ZR2 (like the 2024 I just bought), as the Tacoma STILL doesn't have a front locker.

[@LPM84.]

@@kx8960 I understand that. But it is the closest.

[@rickeycooley9139]

@@fernandopuga6906 what is the price, you never said?

[@jlaw1901]

Andre, I really want to see the hybrid on the Ike. I’m curious how regen braking will effect downhill performance

[@TeXasDadBod]

I was waiting for you guys to show how much roomier the back seat on the trailhunter is 😅 !

[@originalname9999]

Same as their current test rig in the Off Road Trim.

[@LuisB.Cardenas]

Love the review guys. Saw it yesterday at the dealership. Love it. Thanks.

[@BabakPA]

I can’t believe how much they are charging people for these trucks! Oh and don’t forget to take your tablet when you leave😂😂

[@Kl3pt0_19]

Will the off road have the hybrid option soon? I just don’t see a justification on getting the high level trims at this point when the extra money can go into some actual good custom mods.

[@arnick2]

Elephant in the room: Made in Mexico.

[@dvader3263]

The 3rd gen Tacoma was also built in Mexico.

[@joedonahue5687]

My 2021 TRD Pro resale value just went up! Thanks Toyota!

[@damien7881]

COULD YOU GUYS DO THAT TEST (TRAILHUNTER VS BISON)

[@tbm275]

Do the ventilated seats on the Tacoma vent to the back and base of the seat, or just the base? I'm interested in the TRD-Off Road with premium package for the vented seats but no point in them if they only cool the base of the seat and not the back. Was really disappointed by the new Ridgeline Black edition that only had the vented seat base and not the back.

[@ragnarmagnusson4305]

Where’s the 1700 lbs. of payload we were promised? My Maverick Tremor has more payload (1250 lbs.). Last week, at the Ford dealer, I saw a 2024 Ranger 4x4 with 1699 lbs. of payload. I like this video format. Thanks for all the great videos and keep up the good work.

[@kabloosh699]

If payload matters get a lesser trim.

[@jasonjac123]

Exactly. Toyota kept quoting 1700 for trail hunter and it was complete BS.

[@keithcrandall1369]

1250 pounds of payload actually isn’t too bad for the Trail hunter….but yeah, not even close to 1700lbs

[@jimsomerville3924]

@@kabloosh699 the TrailHunter is supposed to be the "overlander" which needs payload to carry all the over-priced camping junk. And the lower trims are still only around 1200 lb capacity. So the promised ratings were a marketing lie.

[@Dusdaddy]

@@kabloosh699 That doesn't help....no trim is above 1270

[@mramseyISU]

I had been planning on getting a trd pro. Then I started seeing more and more pictures of how they killed the rear seat room. I’ve got kids to haul around so I want a usable back seat. I finally decided I was out and ended up getting a hybrid tundra with the trd off road package. I’m pretty sure I’m not really missing out.

[@LivingRetirement]

Prices are INSANE!!! I was contemplating the TrailHunter, but must say big time "NO". I much rather get the LC250 LandCruiser in a few years once hopefully markups are gone.

[@alromero5685]

You can drive to a further dealer for a no mark up Land Cruiser.

[@LivingRetirement]

@@alromero5685 that is what I am doing once I am ready to buy, absolutely!!! Once I decide when and what.

[@alromero5685]

@@LivingRetirement 😎👍 My man!

[@zacharyfranklin1622]

Excellent analysis love the first dirt video look forward to see it done with the4 runner TRD pro and Trail hunter

[@makadocious1975]

Not even a front locker for 63k wtf...and front and rear locker is the best thing to have... also just think of the 15k markups that they will tack on also

[@CraigG21]

The Trailhunter trim is for Overlanding; says right on the Toyota website. Prices on the TRD-Pro & Trailer are 😱 What were the actual payload numbers on these vehicles? I know what the website says... The turbo noise in the raised air intake would get old really quick. Great info in this vid - thanks.

[@erp2000]

Toyota made the price so high dealers are going to have a hard time taking on markup cause nobody going to want to pay 5k to 10k extra on this vehicle there's so many options for that price like a f150 raptor or chevy silverado zr2

[@JamesMcMorran-z8b]

Here is a theory on Toyota’s high pricing; Toyota Corporation tired of distributors and dealers making money from unnecessary and unwanted accessories, including $4,000 “market adjustments”. So they have jacked up the MSRP on the vehicles to a level where distributors and dealers have no room to add “extras” and may have to even discount to move the inventory.

[@omardevonlittle3817]

it sounds like a shop vac lmao

[@bradj9870]

The last turbo I had that made that sound was about to go bad...

[@beexiong2995]

Dummies. All turbo engines make this sound. Just depends on how much muffling is done to the airbox

[@hollahabibi1897]

The EXTREME!!!!! Dudes from Harold and Kumar would love this truck

[@mnyhomie]

Wait, was that a pterodactyl?

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

The TRD Pro costs more than my fully loaded f150 tremor

[@braalo07]

Get the TRD Off-Road I-Force Max Premium, only difference is "Pro" and "Off-Road" LOL

[@Dusdaddy]

lol.....a similarly equipped Tremor with cameras, towing package, HUD, etc. is $80K. Why do people continue to compare apples to oranges? It's a hell of a deal compared to a Raptor R though isn't it?

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

@@Dusdaddy I’m just saying, a fully loaded 2023 tremor 402A is like $68k right now.

[@Dusdaddy]

@@KZbinuser1aa But it's not comparable. A Maverick Tremor is only $40K. So why not get that?

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

@@Dusdaddy they are the same price, and are off-road trucks. So I would say they’re comparable.

[@MrTrinidadgavidia]

Great video very informative. Questions: 1) when to use the 4low and disconnect the sway bar? please explain the use. thanks

[@TheThewulasvegas]

I own a 2012 TRD Tacoma. I paid $26K out the door Feb 2017. 50k miles on the odometer. Today’s prices are insane.

[@ExploreWyoming]

65k is a LOT but I think a lot of people miss the point. The trail hunter has a ton of upgrades, plus the warranty. Many overlanders would install those things themselves and now it’s available from the factory

[@higg2156]

uh huh, now explain the 65k part again.

[@ExploreWyoming]

@@higg2156 I think if people bought the trd off road for 45k then added all the stuff themselves it would be over 65k

[@Dusdaddy]

@@higg2156 How much for a well-equipped Ram Rebel or Ford Tremor? Now it doesn't look as bad.

[@mechmat12345]

​@@ExploreWyoming,no it wouldn't. Rock rails and decent shocks aren't THAT expensive. This truck makes a lot of sense at $55k, but not $65k.

[@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vI]

​@@mechmat12345 this costing 65k is more than fine and because it's a excellent truck. Stop complaining. Even car and driver ranked the new Tacoma turbo and turbo Hybrid versions as number one and two. Above all it's rivals.

[@sammyjammy6647]

I just started rolling on the floor laughing. I was imagining a scenario where Andre said he’s going to move his seat back an inch more while Roman was sitting behind him in the Pro . Roman says no don’t go back anymore and then Andre responds, Go back more? Proceeds to split Roman legs wide open tearing a hole in Roman’s pants in the crotch area. Roman cries in anguish and says, ARRRGGGGHHH FUQQ U ANDREEEEE! 😅

[@michaelderby1655]

"Those bumpers and components can be added to other Tacomas". Cue the lower trim owners telling everybody their lesser trimmed Tacos are "just as good as a trail hunter" because they bought a bumper.

[@brentbacon6148]

Is there any storage left under the backseat, when you have the Hybrid?

[@HectorAguayo98]

No that’s where the battery is

[@marshallkroening]

These look sick. Also loving this style of video guys!

[@qdog494]

For 9k more I ordered a F 350 power stroke XLT FX4. Those tacos are crazy expensive….but yes they hold their value well

[@jasonhill2180]

A mans work truck! And your turbo will sound so much better! 6.7 turbo whistle is sweet. So is the Dodge though.

[@qdog494]

@@jasonhill2180 absolutely. For me the XLT gives me just enough tech without going overboard

[@retiredafce3373]

My son seen the TRD PRO on the trailer here in Oregon.

[@secerator]

So what else is different other than the seats, snorkel, bed size, shocks, rock bar? Any difference in the tech package and off road functions?

[@michaelweston9048]

This makes ranger raptor a bargain before mark ups 😂😂😂. But can’t afford it 😢😢😢

[@tedwarkentin2211]

So, which suspension felt better on the same trail? The Fox on TRD Pro or Old Man Emu on Trailhunter?

[@StlrNtn95]

Crazy that we paid either 46k or 48k for my wife's 2020 Tacoma TRD Pro. Almost 20k 4 years later is absolutely crazy!

[@RyanLewis2837]

Loved it thanks. I like the minimal editing.

[@markbrackenhoff1676]

I make enough to afford this truck, but there is zero chance I'd buy it at that price. Would rather buy the TRD Off-Road and add 2-3" lift, 33's, better shocks, additional skid plates, and still save 12-15k. Less power? Sure, but folks who've driven the non-hybrid Tacoma say it's a very good powertrain.

[@yesq]

You can get TRD off road hybrid soon

[@lunamaria1048]

The TRD Pro didn't lift a wheel even once lol. Overtrail did pretty quick. The Pro articulation was excellent. I'd buy the Pro, if I were buying either

[@bubbabiker5653]

$65k for a midsize!! And it's made in Mexico with cheap labor. No way Jose......

[@JohnSmith-sh1zg]

I see what you did there lol. 🤔

[@marks7311]

Loved the video and enjoy the informal and impromptu vids. Keep em coming, great work

[@claystil1]

Is there going to be a delete option for that "desert air intake" cause i wanna 1) be able to roll down my window in peace, and 2) not have a goofy, pointless mod.

[@Livestrong00782]

Wait you said a 6ft bed? On this Trailhunter or available in a 6ft bed? Bc that doesn’t look 6ft but I do like the way it looks.

[@Reu_ag]

This TRD Pro looks the best in the class

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

ZR2 AEV Bison for offroading. Toyota for reliability...

[@mechmat12345]

Lol. You're nuts. Raptor is way better for performance and price, ZR2 is best value by far. TRD Pro is better at nothing but MPG and presumptive reliability (has not been out long enough to actually say it's reliable).

[@steffencave9363]

Can you disable the proximity warnings, or will you get beeped at every time you approach an obstacle?

[@Alex-ss4bk]

Keep your current tacos and 4Runners for another 10tears then get these for half the price….maybe.

[@Jeff-ib7wc]

I bought a 4Runner TRD OFF ROAD Premium with KDSS for $45,000 in 2020. Identical models with similar mileage are currently retailing for $40-43k.

[@Alex-ss4bk]

@@Jeff-ib7wc nice, we got a 21 nighshade for $49k when the used car market started to go carzy, I think if we sell it now, we can command high 30s but twin turbo is something I am not sure about on these cars.

[@guentherwilke2055]

Nice to see the comparison between the top off-road trims. Hopefully we’ll get a comparison between the OR and TH or Pro soon.

[@HP-ov7ol]

For a lot less $ you can buy a full sized Titan Pro 4X. No mid sized truck should exceed $50k.

[@AdventureBraten01]

This was probably already on the works, but I’m so glad you guys made this video (after I commented asking for it)

[@El_Gato718]

65k smh wonder what the 4 Runner will be at now. Smh

[@jtomtl]

70k 😂

[@temur72]

TRD off road would be just as good for 95% of people who buy the pro.or trailhunter

[@CoopaCoop]

TRD off roads and pros pricing is getting totally crazy. Give me a off road with just heated seats and a bed liner for 40k out the door and it'll be the number one selling truck on the market. They can keep all the other fancy controls/cameras/technology that is driving the price through the roof.

[@chromenewt1691]

$63k for a midsized… what the actual f@&$!?

[@sammyjammy6647]

Pick up trucks used to be cheaper than Corollas but as soon as people turned them into lifestyle choices, the manufacturer started cashing in on peoples high emotion and being posers, and not actually using them as work trucks.

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

Notice on the white vehicle sticker, the Rear Axle Capacity (RAWR) is falsely reduced to 3475 lbs. The real max rating for that 9.5" axle is likely about 4500 lbs.

[@josel1325]

66 😂😂 lmaoooo

[@GrandPines323]

15:55 the rear seat legroom on the TRD Pro seems like a little more than what the extended cab model has.

[@literaticzar]

65k+tax+interest+insurance+mark-ups+gas increases! You can't afford it, American serfs, but Zelenzky can. LMAO!

[@aham3476]

Like the style of video. Trail hunter looks sweet!

[@ndb8610]

Looks good but price is stupid im out

[@cartopia6161]

The isodynamic seats should be an option, that way one could get this trim at a cheaper price.

[@ConfirmedPatriot]

About $15,000 more than my 2020 TRD PRO……😳😬👎🏻

[@originalname9999]

Almost twice as much as my 2020 base model TRD OR, out the door at $34,500.

[@Queensizemusic]

Great job! I love the new roofline on all of these. I’m thinking I’d like the Pro for the extra grand.

[@O-Heyguys]

A TRD pro is just a lifted grocery getter. Some people might take it off road, but that’s just their driveway.

[@janetairlines1351]

Not to mention you need to keep the key fob in a faraday bag because thieves are using skimmers to get the signal and steal push button vehicles in seconds now. They can do it through windows, walls etc

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Not here in CO. People buy the Toyotas and modify and offroad them all of the time...

[@O-Heyguys]

@@richfarfugnuven6308I used to live there. The majority never see dirt. It’s a concrete cowboy.

[@clgoose1646]

How is the comfort of the Trail Hunter on long highway drives?

[@Land_Raver]

Thankfully, they didn't take it on anything serious. Wouldn't want a repeat of the diff failure.

[@DuyenNguyen-ui6mo]

What I like about Toyota and most car manufacturers for that matter is that they have a trim that fits your budget.

[@2daih4]

66k Wtf