First Drive in Giveaway Porsche 997.2 GT3 RS

[@richardmesser1091]

put the stock shift linkage in and change the fluid before you spend 30 to ship and rebuild

[@GarageTherapyOfficial]

Hi Matt, I doubt that the gearbox needs a rebuild. If the syncros/pinion shafts were worn you would hear & possibly feel the chatter when changing and when you left off the gas suddenly. Having quite a bit of experience with the 996/997 I would go back to the stock GT3 RS shift setup and linkages if they HAVE been messed with. The stock shift is really really short by default and notchy so modification for the RS is unnecessary. The twitchy rear end will be two things generally. The rear sway bar is at the stiffer end of the settings and the geometry will need to be adjusted. The 997.1 and .2 chassis are much more traditional 911 than the 991.1 and .2s you have experienced so lift off oversteer is a lot easier. However as you said at 30-40mph it shouldn't do that. I would wager the previous owners had a customer geo setup on the car for the track. The suspension on the 997.2 GT3 RS is magical so unless you go full blown KW Clubsport (Manthey setup), Ohlins or Bilstein and a real good geo by an expert again I would leave it be, its great out the box. If the clutch hasnt been done I would certainly have that looked at and changed. Worn clutches can produce more noises which makes you think something is wrong in a Mezger car. Brake squeal is part of the deal with that gen of PCCB but with some heat it does calm down a bit. Check the pads of OEM Porsche would be my advise. Hope this helps, //Maz

[@mattzindahouse]

My 987.2 has numeric cables which were very poorly set up by the previous owner, it was extremely notchy and physically difficult to change gear. These cables have a massive amount of adjustment and after some tweaking the shift is now solid and smooth therefore I would recommend playing with the setup before pulling the box out.

[@cjbaldwin256]

pretty sure the car has the numeric without the cables, which could be a problem in itself

[@joetacchino4470]

Get rid of that Numeric before you decide to do anything. Would hate to re-build the trans because of a wonky shifter. I suspect it’s the shifter. It seems so notch when you move it compared to my experience in non-GT 997’s. A worn synchro wouldn’t present balking until the very last second when you try to engage it. It looks, and I could be wrong, like you are experiencing resistance throughout the entire throw, which would point to shifter.

[@Tdaz250]

Exactly. It’s as if the whole thing is too stiff. Which is too bad because numeric is known to be “the best shifter setup”

[@my-usirname2360]

The shifter in 997 GT cars is nothing like the other models. It is notchy and rifle boot like from the factory. I have had experience with both, but not any with a numeric shifter.

[@atrainshoes6367]

It’s because the rs is a pure track car if you know how it feels it’s not going to feel all smooth because it’s not meant to be that way. Get a normal gt3 then if you want that feel

[@nls8520]

@Atrain Shoes But... both 997.2 GT cars use the same transmission and also shifter. The only powertrain or driveline difference is in between the lightweight flywheel of the RS and the gearing is lower in RS slightly. Otherwise same throw feel and notchyness.

[@ehpdrives]

When I bought my cayman R I got to drive a 997.2 GT3 right after. It was crazy how much notchier and noisy the GT3 was. The trans whine, the shifter, the clutch chatter, the stiff ride. You could tell it was a race car with a license plate and it’s awesome

[@atom999]

Man that sounds much nicer than 991/992. More analog. Defo a project to chase perfection in. And would give more enjoyment on the street for sure. You need to get one for yourself!

[@TOUGEGT3]

I can see how Happy you are since the detailing inside is done. Looking forward to the Dundon installation video

[@LT64444]

Hi Matt. I have a 996tt with the numeric and cables. The chatter you are experiencing from the inside is from the cup cables, numeric offers insulation to help quiet it down. Also, I doubt you need a transmission rebuild. I would try switching back to all new oem shifter and cables to see what you think. The numeric takes a lot of force and is very notchy by design.

[@patrickraf9884]

I agree with you in regards to 997’s. They are so raw which is the reason I love mine. The newer ones are faster but the 997 is fast enough to get me in trouble .

[@joetacchino4470]

Also, for heel-toe; if your feet and ankles are like mine, you’re not heel-toe. You’re left forefoot - right forefoot. Just roll your foot outward keeping your heel on the floor. I’m duck footed so I can’t use my heel. The left side of my foot is on the brake, and the right side rolls out and down to blip the throttle. . Get the Rennline adjustable throttle pedal. You can dial in the spacing and height and it’s PERFECT to get the heel - toe right.

[@rubenharris9241]

As for the guy at the stop sign in the truck, you have to keep in mind that he was probably staring at the car. Most people dont get to see a GT3 RS everyday 🙂

[@RAZGR1Z]

I agree with the other comments about just putting everything back to stock and seeing how it drives.

[@Piotrowsquad]

@ 13.30 - "... is it really jacked up, or is it my..." Its you Matt, the car is everything you feel, hear and garner while driving it. Coming to terms with the unique experiences of a car of this nature is part of the process. You should make it yours for sure but the gearbox is not an issue. If you want to upgrade it, that is what it is, but the shifting experience you feel is the cables and shifter. I LOVE the factory short shifter in my 997.1 Turbo and watching you shift, my shifter throw is similar without the clicking, if I'm hearing that correctly. I think you need a mechanic to address the cables and shifter.

[@WRCWRX]

I would try OEM shifter/ cable's before rebuilding the gearbox.

[@taforth]

Love your shakedown runs 👌. Aside from the 997 RS 4.0, that’s one of the best of them all 👍!

[@timbrown9731]

The flat six is speaking to me through the TV Matty… it sounds so organic. By the way thanks to your old videos on how to take the bumper off of a GT three to do air filters came in really handy on my buddies GT3 I sent you a message on Instagram.

[@bikefax8177]

Here in SoCal we have Angeles Crest hwy 2. On weekends doctors and weekend warriors crash 911’s up this canyon. It’s a very tricky car to drive.

[@alexoneil8035]

Sounds sweet can’t wait for y to get it dialed in. LCN won’t be happy with that grass thou

[@warrenbarnhartiv1148]

Love the video! Bring it out here to Helen and we can swing over blood mountain next door on a cruise.

[@westsideskateshop564]

Thank you for the courtesy rev, sir! Great video man, car sounds amazing. I’ve always wanted to drive one

[@dalebyers9877]

Rev matching you in my 2020 Ford Transit Connect is proving difficult! I like driving my work van with the sound cranked up.....😆

[@rearengine5072]

Matt, as many others are noting before you blow loads of money on gear box, it may not be the gear box. I drove my 997 gt3 over 30,000 miles and the car was always raw. The gearbox is like caulking a rifle. But as you see, the car is constantly reminding you how to drive it, it’s one of the most intense and fun cars I’ve ever owned. Hope this helps. Shine on !

[@ocavant]

You obviously have never "caulked" a rifle....not sure anyone ever has. lol

[@JeepCherokeeful]

Most people cock rifles, must have been quite an experience to caulk one!

[@greganderson5981]

Thanks for the courtesy rev! Great video.

[@sickjohnson]

That was a fun drive Matt, can't wait for the next video man.

[@kellinpatler]

I’ve got the GT short shifter in my 997 and it’s excellent. Ditch the numeric and go back to stock - it feels excellent. Also, the rear stepping out under deceleration could be the limited slip

[@CharlesPoon]

Can't beat the sound of high reving NA! Too bad about the worn blocker rings but 2-3 is always the worst since it is highly used on track and has a crossover that contributes to the high output/input shaft speed differential.

[@timkinley1779]

Golden Arches in the rear.

[@hypeNT500]

The car is designed to be mechanically bare bones without any luxury details. That is what you are experiencing to be normal. Glad you enjoy the performance side of cars.

[@randomvideosyt5955]

Would love to see more drive videos like this 🔥🔥😎

[@jimc9222]

Goldcrest Motorsports in Georgia is the place you should send the car to be serviced. These guys are experts in everything Porsche, from race car to street car.

[@nicolabennington203]

Porsche know a bit about set up. If it’s not track weapon why not just go back to factory springs all around? Revert to standard shift. I would have taken the cage out as well because for road or touring it’s better for luggage. Not easy to fault this car 😎

[@kindaburnt]

cause that’s not what a 3RS is meant for, go buy a carrera S if you want a car that’s not stiff, caged and loud

[@nicolabennington203]

@@kindaburnt it’s not soft on factory springs, nor quiet. Just a lot more pleasant to drive on roads. It’s not nice if somebody mixes and matches the suspension. That’s why OG will sort her out.

[@jack073]

I’d love to get your comparison on the 992 to the 997 once your touring comes in

[@atom999]

He also had a 991 so will be interesting to hear his thoughts

[@GBMM7]

What I can tell you from my experience driving the 997 platform it’s a bit notchy. I’ve only had seat time in a 997 turbo with upgraded clutch and flywheel and it liked higher rpm. At lower speeds it was kind of rough how your saying it is on the RS. Anyways first drive gave me all the sounds I knew the 3.8 RS makes.

[@2fast2nick]

Such an amazing car. It's looking great

[@davechapman1371]

The rear end stepping out may be due to camber settings. That or you’re just not shifting the weight enough through turns. Rad car.

[@taforth]

Lots of “love” in the air during that drive 🤣👍

[@Tdaz250]

Might be worth seeing if you can find a regular 997 sport shifter on the forum to throw in ? Maybe the numeric is just too notchy for you ? And that’s not a bad thing at least on camera it looks TOO notchy/stiff

[@Mike-ph1xy]

Can’t wait to see the 992 touring on the channel

[@bobgees793]

The gear change should loosen once the car is warm, say within about 10-15 miles. They are always notchy when cold

[@BJP719]

Looking forward to this video series! Finally a Porsche giveaway!... tired of all the JDM, Ferrari, and Lambo giveaways everyone else does. If my name is drawn, we'll go for that mountain drive here in Colorado with a group of 911's!

[@Schwabz33]

Happy new year Matt.. have a blessed 2023

[@ratspeedgarage]

Time to get your garage dialed in!

[@nomad509]

No matter what price point of the car we will always find something janky from the previous owner(s). Sometimes I guess the fun of new ownership is to make it right. Although it may be annoying at first the pursuit of the project can be fulfilling. Obviously you have found an even ground with this car which I find extremely awesome. Maybe it's wisdom but nonetheless I am excited that you are trying something new despite your distaste for the jankiness that would surprise us likeminded folk!

[@hypeNT500]

Keep the oversteer. It helps turn faster speeds. Once you get used to the oversteer you will be one fast driver.

[@ObsessedGarage]

It's not really oversteer. It probably just wonky toe.

[@hypeNT500]

That kick you are experiencing is designed to position the car to turn more aggressively. Scary at first. Once you get the hang of it you will realize the car turns a lot better with it. It is a race setup

[@kenbode8806]

Matt, Why not send the car up to Demand Motor sports to have the transmission taken care of or send it to Speed Sport Tuning. Both shops are Porsche experts! You will save allot of money on shipping. Larry Kosilla uses Speed sport tuning and Matt Farah just had his Spider built by Demand

[@joetacchino4470]

Deman. The owner’s name is Rick Deman.

[@onlyrs8111]

I'll take the Touring at MSRP if you don't want it cause I am too far down my dealers list. I'll probably be waiting for a 992.2

[@jlo1169]

You should send it to olsen motorsports. He is Chicago areas top Porsche shop and recently opened a few more. One being in naples

[@BigRatchet710]

I have a 944 turbo but am itching to get my hands on a N/A 911 I foresee a carrera in my future 🤫

[@sportykev]

what a raw machine

[@KeepRift]

Can't wait to win this car after Matt is done with it!

[@Mizzington24]

Send it to Olsen Motorsports for a rebuild of that trans!

[@philip6037]

Hi Matt! Great car but the Shifter isn‘t the best.. I would recommend to remove that thing to go back to the original Shifter or if you like a shorter throw or a better shifting feel, take a look at a CAE-Shifter! These things are just supreme, as i am from germany i can say this is a quality product and there isnt something better out there!

[@fredrikjonsson6410]

I guess 2nd and 3rd gears has been used for track.

[@PhillipTieuChainz]

Did you use the porsche shifter centering tool? If not, you have to perform the centering operations several times before it's correct. Aside from that, I honestly like the OEM shifter unit with billet internals upgraded. Has a nice amount of travel but tight engagement.

[@davidbeaver1641]

The sound! 😮‍💨🔊

[@malcolmn.5222]

I would love to park this next to my s2000 in my garage

[@tigerbiterhater]

Take it easy on my future car please 😂😅. Can’t wait until this GT3 gets the full OG treatment.

[@BRNDNSLVRA]

Best GT3 RS.

[@CraaaigV302]

Idk how u can make money giving away a car of this caliper dam this would be a dream to own so raw wat a sick car

[@Bay22Auto]

I’m blown away you were sold this car by a dealer with the FAL issue and transmission needing a rebuild.

[@ObsessedGarage]

I bought it private party. Neither is broken. It's just janky like the rest of the car.

[@Chad03Cobra]

Good Gosh that car sounds amazing

[@davidnieves7829]

Hey Matt, if your looking to replace the black wheels I might be interested?

[@556m4]

Does the transmission get better or worse once it gets up to operating temp ?

[@ObsessedGarage]

It's the same.

[@j.3854]

5:09 I know we all came here for the White trash fancy, blue wrapped challenger…..with the ebay white tire stickers.

[@joseenriques5791]

HOPE IT CHANGES MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mjack70]

Yeah, I was worried about this car, had a Hoovie’s garage feel to it, lol. O.K. Can we talk to the previous owner, find out exactly what they did? When I got my GT350, I talked the previous owner quite a bit. As others have said, if the price is comparable, go back to stock, the problem would be of course parts and a dealership that wouldn’t charge you the price of the car on labor.😂

[@aconfusedazn]

Matt, you should do a meet and greet while at Dundon!

[@ObsessedGarage]

We will definitely do that.

[@simmo347]

Hey matt, just watched the purple pig nose video, you should flip it give away the bmw and keep the rs and trade for a better like the e92, Also check out e-motion in California they have porsche nuts some cool suspension components lower and upper control, they guys legit.

[@rcutt555]

Heel / Toe (toe and toe).. The seat looks too close and too high. Is the steering wheel as close to you as it can be? And for heel and toe, don't piston your right leg. Find a place for your heel and pivot your foot (ankle) from this spot.. Pistoning your leg from the hip makes repeatability of braking or blipping impossible.. Pivoting on your heel allows your foot (ankle) to learn and repeat both "pressure" on brake, and distance of travel for braking and blipping. Avoid shoving your foot too far under the dash when learning where your heel needs to be placed. The heel should stay in one place for throttle/braking/blipping.. Soon as you get comfortable with heel pivot of the right foot, you will be AMAZED and happier.. Love the RS video series. Thanks!! 🏁

[@Billy_W]

Do you use anything in terms of an air freshener? Just wondering what your recommendation would be

[@fbimmer9174]

Just clean the thing properly instead of covering the bad smell with chemistry. If you still want more than the clean smell Koch Chemie Fresh up works well in the carpets.

[@jhrodriguez08]

Put the car all back to stock and issues will go away 😂

[@Twentyfoursilver]

Send it out to D on the west coast to get squared away and iam in for the giveaway !

[@Alexfonse]

Been enjoying your videos since day one. The 997.2 gt3 rs is simply a dream. I do suffer the same struggle from the gear box in first, second and third in my 996.2 Carrera 4 but it has 93.000 kms done already. Great condition but need to review this since some months now…. Is there any product to succesfully delete any smoke smell in the interior ? What will be the requirements to buy a ticket for the gt3 rs ????

[@ObsessedGarage]

Baking soda on the carpets and/or o-zone machine. We will have a bunch of products on the website to enter. Every $5 you spend will gain an entry.

[@BrianLouderback]

What kind of camera are you using? All of your driving videos are always blurry or low quality.

[@SweetSpot909]

where do i enter the contest to win the car?

[@glossedauto]

Can't wait to enter and win :) you can offer my 957 GTS as a second place prize

[@alexhall2308]

Whose ridgeline was in your driveway?

[@BluePlanetDrone]

Umm @ 2:10 did you just blow past a 3 way stop sign ? If so, that’s not a good look Matty

[@ObsessedGarage]

No, it's just a left turn. No stop sign.

[@BluePlanetDrone]

@@ObsessedGarage Ahhh, well let me remove this shoe from my mouth, Thanks for setting me straight!

[@P-LOWN1997]

Nice car i love it!!❤

[@MichaelCassin]

Stock 997 GT3 shifter is fine. Go back to it. Don't waste money putting subpar aftermarket parts in the car. My car clicks off shifts as fast as any manual with the factory linkage.

[@simonambrose82]

Did you adjust the shifter cables when you took the Numeric apart?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Yep

[@alecnguyen5334]

Hhmmm 304 on the door? That’s my area code… take care in dialing in my car! This is probably the wrong place to ask this question but since the podcast is kinda down. Why do you resent the GT2 and GT2 RS? I understand it’s not screaming 9K rpms but it’s the pinnacle of GT cars. Seems like 997.1 GT2s for a bit we’re a steal as well as some 991.2 2RS.

[@shaifulothman7442]

Any reason why u swap the factory buckets with those?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Those are the factory seats.

[@shaifulothman7442]

@@ObsessedGarage oh OK, interesting option. Because the common ones I saw had rs3.8 enbroided in red

[@kimnewling5728]

Fun!

[@chrisnas1483]

Matt m 2 favorite words...

[@chrisnas1483]

Legit, and Jacky.

[@556m4]

How do you not already own a GT3 RS ? I’m shocked you don’t have one.

[@joetacchino4470]

He has had a 991.1 and 991.2 RS.

[@hypeNT500]

You purchased a car that has been designed tuned for racing. That is what you are enjoying. You other cars are not tuned or have been raced hard.

[@manualmedicinebjornhermans3542]

Did you get a new shift knob?! from where? :)

[@ObsessedGarage]

I bought the 997 GT3 knob from Suncoast.

[@manualmedicinebjornhermans3542]

@@ObsessedGarage thanks mate

[@GREATJOBJARED]

How do you enter the giveaway?

[@ObsessedGarage]

It will be on obessedgarage.com in June.

[@garycoleman3005]

Spinaroo 😂 ❤

[@plasticbmw]

Everyone saying don't rebuild the trans. No matt...please do. I want my gt3 to have a fresh setup when i get it thank you sir!

[@muradomar5649]

MURAD form Toronto 🇨🇦👋👌🎉🥳

[@Airbag1010674]

Why does everyone seem to believe there is a "T" in Mezger, there is no "T" people! :)