First Drive in the Talon Was a Disaster

Not sure how much longer I can keep taking these Ls, gang.
Music:
Riviere - Ben Winwood
Scorched Earth - Maya Belsitzman
00:00 - pre-episode disclaimer can't be good news
00:21 - episode starts here
00:39 - breakdown 1 surely there won't be any more
01:04 - that's Mark's Evo X
02:27 - first pull
04:20 - p/w reference
04:51 - breakdown 2 that's gotta be it right
06:19 - Mark's First Drive
07:01 - second time using this shot cuz no b-roll
07:53 - disaster strikes
08:35 - breakdown 3 but at least it's just coolant, right?
09:10 - it's over for these hoes (i'm hoes)
10:29 - the final dagger

[@MrJessegsx]

Ben is cramming 15 years of DSM ownership into 6 months lol.

[@jeddllau]

Damn, early pin

[@leifashley27]

Had a 94 tsi… this is nothing but truth!

[@MrJessegsx]

@@leifashley27 have had mine for 24 years this August. So yeah…..glutton for punishment 😂😂😂

[@shr00m7]

probably the best comment i've read on the internet all month.

[@thegreendoormx4441]

Facts! 😂 ive owned my 99 white gsx since about 2001 and although shes been through a few heads, blocks, and transmissions and t-cases, she still puts a smile on my face when i launch her at 6k 😂 (when she has her winter 225 tires and not her 255/40zr17s, of course).

[@mislavperic2324]

The talon wants a quick death but you refuse to grant it to one

[@mattbaumsten8837]

Should name that Talon Mariko Sama

[@n9athan]

It’s practically begging to die at this point

[@georgiiliev89]

@@mattbaumsten8837 Duuude, you had me laughing :D !

[@ChrisPBacon9]

My Fiat 500 Abarth was like that. I kept it going through sheer stubbornness

[@Zorbino88]

Every so often my 17 year old Mazda 3 does something completely out of the blue, like when the thermostat crapped out on a 2 hour drive in 100F heat. Luckily the motor didn't explode (although there weren't any warnings for overheating except when the A/C was auto shut off, but I didn't know that at the time.) I remember getting to my destination and hearing the coolant boiling in the lines. While the car was at the shop, I panicked and bought a brand new 2022 WRX Limited off of the showroom floor... 2 months ago the replacement (5 years old) alternator on the Mazda decided it didn't want to work properly anymore, so I had to spend about triple what the car is worth in scrap to get everything back up to par (drive belts and other junk down there). I guess I'm not gonna let this car go out quietly either 😂

[@jamaljones6568]

Talon- “I’m tired of this grandpa” Ben- “Well that’s too damn bad”😂😂

[@Allwayzworkin]

😂😂😂

[@Bamballer123]

KEEP DIGGIN

[@dbkashboi321]

😂😂😂😂

[@BroMordekai]

Well EXCUSE ME

[@iNFiN3]

I love how one Ben is the shitbox guy and the other Ben is a nice car guy, makes for a perfectly balanced car content.

[@georgallasj]

But short Ben also does have a shit box or two and Asian Ben’s evo is nice and he had the FD for a while. So it’s like they each have their thing but dabble in the others haha

[@CaptainBlitz]

Short Ben builds are so clean that he has to crash them to get to build them again 💀

[@TheToyota8888]

Someone once said “perfectly balanced, like all things should be”, while balancing two guys named Ben on a stick with his finger.

[@PH03N1X_83]

They're all shitboxes, let's be honest here

[@daricora]

Pretty weird that the Honda guy isn't the shit box guy lmao.

[@eliasjdm976]

''Warning, danger to manifold''

[@PatrickLino]

"SHUT UP!" (slams laptop)

[@CelicAWD]

"Dumps 40 washers on the floor"

[@antfarmer2227]

“Said floor ceases to be”

[@chrisgrassa69]

Love the reenactment that just took place^

[@travdripdrip382]

*as the floor pan falls out. 😂😂😂

[@danielhaynes1642]

Famous saying the dsm world. 10% fun 90% jackstands.

[@benjaminboshaw8858]

Yet women will say we have commitment issues…..

[@benjaminboshaw8858]

Also…. Is this why we have a tendency to date women that are trouble? We just got used to the pain from our DSMs 🤣

[@turbo_brian]

Not gonna lie, my dsm is my most reliable car..... But like, I have a stealth tt and a starion so like..... Yeah.....

[@Clooger-]

God knows why an ldiot would willingly buy a Mitsubishi..

[@sanchocloset5987]

I bent the intake valves on my first dsm changing the timming belt. This car taught me lots of invaluable lessons. I pay 0 dollars to a mechanic to work on my cars. Lesson learned, dsm😂

[@pufstuf_soon]

“I believe the head has been lifted off the block” with the classical music sounded so formal lmao feel bad for ya tall Ben

[@DreamDestinations123]

Original car took the roadtrip like a champ. You transferred the engine to a "fresher" cursed chassis and poof!

[@of_lion22]

He also added nearly 200whp.

[@chE3z1]

someone put voodoo magic on this talon for sure

[@maiy8786]

First the blown up evo, then the blown up K car, the flood, blown up evo (again?), then the talon fiasko. How many L's can a man take. Someone send this man some luck.

[@kotomi758]

didn't he have a camaro as well or was that a group car?

[@commandergeokam2868]

​@@kotomi758ep that red Camaro too

[@drewburgess525]

MR2?

[@Maelstrom8]

@@commandergeokam2868 Ironically enough, the Camaro survived the flood with only some electrical issues but he scrapped it. I would have loved to see him actually do an American car build.

[@commandergeokam2868]

@@Maelstrom8 agreed

[@danbufford8848]

He is speedrunning the dsm experience

[@Hawk7886]

just regular running at this point

[@skanetic]

I was like “new head gasket and head studs, not an issue for you guys” and then the last shot of the head popped in, oof

[@MrThewetsheep]

Literally same

[@spyderman478]

Legit same line of thought. 😂😂😂

[@stephen3164]

Some jb weld, some spray foam, some flex seal… she’ll be all good. 😜 “On today’s episode of Just Rolled In - customer states previous mechanic did some engine work, but now the car is leaking coolant. Advised the customer that he needs a full engine rebuild. Customer declined repairs and pushed the car home.”

[@dkis8730]

What headstuds did they use? Surely not OEM right

[@tscmoto3991]

the dsm was always a dream car of mine. thanks for showing me i should never get one. good luck ben

[@TheCompyshop]

You can absolutely get one, just don’t go over 350-400hp on these old cars. They are very happy at that range, but you start pushing things really far when you start going crazy. I had a buddy who had his 4g63 at 400hp for years with no issues

[@MrJessegsx]

Mine has been amazing. 24 years of ownership, and the last 7 it sees nothing but time attack laps.

[@bandwagon240]

One man's dream is another man's nightmare.

[@teamdivinity4900]

​@MrJessegsx Right, but to get into one now, it could be a nightmare if you dont shell out enough money

[@aletron4750]

DSMs are absolutely not bad cars at all, this is normal for all cars if you start pushing 500hp. Mostly Stock DSMs are perfectly reliable and fun cars

[@sk8er100100]

I like how your power to weight ratios are actually weight to power ratios :)

[@ellwoodwolf]

And this frankendsm , is like mid/beginner motorcycle ratio.....

[@Hawk7886]

@@ellwoodwolf the secret is that even slow motorcycles are fast cars. ;)

[@evansautomotive307]

@@ellwoodwolf With motorcycles its very important to calculate the rider in your ratio. so a 400lb/100hp r6 is actually closer to 6lb per hp than 4lbs per hp.

[@kingbobbob123]

True DSM owner, pop the hood, Timing belt is still there. As a former owner of many DSMs yep that's the first check to see if you're about to do another engine rebuild and buy new heads.

[@yeahitskimmel]

You got a V engine in yours?

[@azuanatoya]

why does the same engine like any other Mitsubishi incresease reability issue multiple fold of times , when put into the talon 🤣😂

[@arlowelee]

Lmaoooo thats thr same process here with the 3000gt's

[@Nobluffbuff]

I know these cars. It's like having a substance abuse problem, but with the twist of you being the abused substance.

[@Hawk7886]

damn you make it sound good

[@Nobluffbuff]

@@Hawk7886 😄

[@jap322]

😂😂😂 OMG

[@DanielBertolozi]

What a rollercoaster, except each downhill the cart loses a piece

[@denshidirect3182]

The clutch turned out to be the least of Ben's concerns...

[@TheLaXandro]

In fact, it acted like a resettable mechanical fuse. It'd blow something up much sooner if it could put all of the horses down to the road.

[@notodd2828]

To be fair, Kenny did say he wanted to see the head lift off the studs.

[@Kenuwine24]

Stayed true to my words

[@hwhaht]

@@Kenuwine24 kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6bWl62JidqHfJo bro wtf is this

[@sparkster48]

That damn car is cursed

[@danbufford8848]

Lol it's a DSM.

[@CarsNCoasters]

Kenny when tuning the talon "They told me to go hard its good for the channel, I'm gonna lift the head off the studs" Welp this aged well

[@popupheadlights]

Kung fu Kenny don't lie

[@Kenuwine24]

Stayed true to my words

[@tiagobelo4965]

​@@Kenuwine24as one should

[@dirkdaring748]

Silver lining for Mark: "you break it, you repair it" is still better than "you break it you buy it".

[@KennethOBrien-f5w]

welcome to owning a DSM, I have had my 95 eclipse for 8 years now and its been on jackstands for 6 years, 3 engines, and 2 transmissions later. and as of today its still on stands.

[@sniperassasin1264]

I feel so much better about my car being on stands for a year

[@Clooger-]

And people still willingly buy these pieces of shlt? Ok then.. 😂

[@drivingpsyche]

"How to build 10... minute car", and other stories of car destruction. Written by Ben and Ben and Mark.

[@FranzJx]

This series has been the greatest anti-eclipse ad ever

[@s_t_r_a_y_e_d]

the Talon: ...estoy cansado jefe... 🕊 Ben: FIVE HUNDRED HORSEPOWER LETS GOOOO

[@Maelstrom8]

LMAO!

[@jarrodnichols8111]

“I wasn’t ready. My palms are sweating!” There’s vomit on his t-shirt already; Mom’s spaghetti.

[@marcleekes3040]

My thought, came here for this. Thanks.

[@Maelstrom8]

BARS!

[@Kenuwine24]

A proud DSM owner. It's always the unexpected unexpectedly

[@marekfiferna]

Except that it is expected since it's a DSM.

[@PhoHmooAmerica]

Now’s a good time to K-Swap and make it reliable.

[@Mohammad_E89]

Its easier to say than actually doing that 😂 it will need k engine and transmission, 4wd had to go, ecu, wiring, modifieing bay and subfram and oil pan, and its actualy way taller engine! AND it need lots of money! Remember they were doing this on budget!

[@P_1019]

​​@@Mohammad_E89It's better than a car that is terribly unreliable 😂 The other option is just throw the engine and sell the chassis again

[@PedroPioLopes]

@@Mohammad_E89 No need for the AWD to go. You could adapt a CR-V system

[@TheLaXandro]

It's the DSM curse, K-swap won't save it. Anything you put into a DSM becomes unreliable. The only way is to go rotary and hope that two negatives make a positive.

[@JMR1096]

The irony of the bicycle speeding by

[@Runco990]

With great power, comes great (financial) responsibility.

[@BA-rh5hy]

LMAO i sincerely love how your sarcasm gets darker as every episode goes on ... Also the look on his face is priceless at 5:30 after another breakdown lol

[@Hawk7886]

After seeing the damage: Holy shit dude lol. I'm so glad I get to watch this as entertainment and I don't have to live it. Have fun!

[@jdselders8010]

You didn't have to go this hard on the DSM, but you did, and I'm here for it

[@Shaunbonzer5]

I love my stock Miata, Prius V, and watching KZbin videos - old man auto enthusiast.

[@TheRealCatof]

Miatas are best stock 😊

[@btownballer27]

Mr2 spyder and corolla 😊. This hurt to watch. I'm sorry sorry Ben.... I hope you move away from this project and sell what you can. These cars are way worse than RX8s.

[@thebritishhippie9735]

@@btownballer27 Yo saaaame, 04 manual, 01 2zz spyder!

[@ellwoodwolf]

I love my 07 Honda fit, but my excitement comes from my motorcycle

[@tyler9703]

Dude I really want a hybrid to pair with my Miata. Prius x Miata seems like the perfect two-car, would also love a civic hybrid.

[@whiteunclerukus]

Did NOT expect it to fail that bad, I was expecting rod knock or something, you guys got this.

[@noobscoopsies1100]

That car is like that old fella that been living way too long and wanted just to die already, but instead some random angel give him immortality and he absolutely hate it because he fed up with life lmao

[@mej684]

We had a name back in the days for a DSM with stupid hp...a grenade

[@stephen3164]

As a 20 year Subaru WRX/STi owner*, and “dsm-curious”, this channel has saved me a lot of money! (my STi is making STOCK hp! which is why it’s still on the road… 😅) *I’m in my 40s - bought my first ‘03 WRX brand new. Replaced it with an STi hatch.

[@brianrobinson9979]

Did you guys call to get the roadway cleaned up because coolant spill on a back road could spell disaster for another spirited driver

[@Lobo_Argent]

or motorcycle, even worse.

[@imisai3096]

This is the most dsm video to ever dsm

[@Captaindan7141]

I imagine an alternate universe where cars are too fast and too reliable, and it's a constant headache for people to slow them down and make them more unreliable.

[@bandwagon240]

I don't miss my DSMs or working on DSMs. Glad someone is keeping them alive, super glad it is not me anymore.

[@Clooger-]

They're piles of shlt, I dont blame ya lol

[@esaedvik]

You build it, you break it. No, wait...

[@kleemanjad]

The car is like... Decrease me there... Uninstall me from the road.. 😅

[@edenweaverias4829]

This video makes me feel like I’m riding in a buddies project car while he talks to me about it, really enjoyed it

[@kevincrawford6864]

Man I had a gsx back in the day 380whp, this video brings back memories. It ran good when it was on the road needless to say I learned to bring a mini tool box with me and floor jack everywhere i went.

[@koltrountree5219]

The dsm curse is seeming to be real...but silver lining the dsm content has been amazing and i loved how many people came to help and support this build! It looked like it was a rocketship while it was running! G&G=Exceptional/Always

[@michaelblacktree]

On the plus side, this car will be job security for Mark. (But it will probably drive him to drinking)

[@Syncopia]

Drinking would be cheaper

[@alicastro6262]

The motor was cursed in the 1st place, this is why you don't buy someone's project car.😂

[@Kenuwine24]

Yes it was

[@ginyamaa]

to be fair Kenny did say he's gonna lift the head straight off the block. man of his word I respect it.

[@tougerx5276]

Alright, well... -Mark

[@smiles564]

Great work guys, as always an excellent job! Sorry for the loss of the head, hope it goes better! Glad YOU are doing better Ben!!

[@jaedonhaskins9917]

As a Subaru owner it brings me a kind of messed up joy at a lifted head/blown gasket on a 4G63. I feel the pain, but i'm so god damn happy it wasn't my car this time.

[@CiteshGaming]

One of your best videos to be honest Cant wait for The flow up!

[@Jonathan-ti2vz]

And nothing can go wrong... OH NO IT ALL WENT WRONG

[@dylanjohnson3422]

I like this style to video. It's a different pace, still entertaining and and engaging

[@uses0ap]

9:00 Ben: "coolant, coolant, coolant, coolant" Motorcyclist: "COOLANT!, COOLANT!, COOLANT!, COOLANT!"

[@thinkskater007]

Such a cool car ! Always loved these things and the 1st gens. Dont give up ! I seen the smiles and excitement !!!!!

[@802Garage]

The chapter at 7:01 is hilarious. I was thinking the car is a monster and just needs some dialing. Then as soon as you said it blew a cloud of coolant mid pull, I knew it was bad news. Bummer folks! That's not a quick fix.

[@ichiman715]

There's a reason why people don't build these too often. I always loved the body styling but the notorious head and head gasket issues were issues in the 90s too Man Im old LOL

[@anindiankid7170]

I cant lie i like this type better the the other videos and idk but that feeling of it being soo raw its soo good

[@Ifixstuf]

I can't stand the track stuff

[@vividkarting1936]

This format without b roll is actually very interesting. And weirdly calming. Please do more!

[@ennui4249]

You guys are due for some good luck I swear..any day now 😂

[@jean4244]

bro the color grading in this video is amazing!

[@bazu_the_roadrunner2857]

I KEPT COMING ON THIS CHANNEL LAST WEEK REFRESHING THE TAB EXPECTING TO SEE AN EPISODE FROM MORNING TILL I WENT TO BED. I'M HOOKED.

[@Mohammad_E89]

From car need a new clutch, to while in there it might need a whole new motor! 😂😂😂

[@christopherharris6005]

Awesome video as always Ben and Mark.

[@markstorer7204]

Love Marks reaction to driving the talon ❤

[@cannonphodder]

Watching in 2160p i am constantly distracted by the all the glass in the car not seeing windex in years, lol.

[@tpddetailscr]

My thoughts exactly. How do they even see out those windows?

[@chanm01]

Well, that was fun while it lasted.

[@oliverpullock8603]

ever considered a mitsubishi fto? i love you guys ive been watching in nz for years :)

[@salih-786]

My thoughts exactly

[@hikaruyoshino6485]

another kiwi

[@MJTbreww]

They can buy mine… please

[@ftovr2957]

As an FTO owner who's also spent way too much to make it faster than it was ever designed to be, that's just asking for more of the same trouble 😂 Which is precisely why mine makes just over 200hp which is actually plenty for a streetcar.

[@duanebailey6253]

Just get a civic and thank me later.

[@AchinonPL]

This video is such a hard test to the algorithm of YT. Although love your content still, been watching every single one for years, but this video is built different

[@AchinonPL]

Holy shit, it just feels like they went down a notch, so many videos lately have been feeling different

[@psychicer5022]

A new engine, and you will pretty much have an entire new car

[@jeo8275]

😭 i love this channel because of how fucking real it is! Shit breaks all the time just like w my cars!

[@bryanbutte]

You looked terrified and excited at the same time. The only place I want to feel that way is in a car, so bravo lol

[@abhiyt4892]

bro it was getting to the best part and then the video ended🥲

[@muirfanma]

please keep taking these L's, love the series man

[@kaelanbushell9329]

bro legit is having the realest DSM experience, while Thorn is out here living life lmaoo

[@62gaming2]

My favorite gears and gasoline video to date... watched like 10 times

[@walterharris6191]

It's funny through this series it makes me miss my 98 gsx while simultaneously remembering why I got rid of it 😂

[@Jack2421992]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, so soon. And i already need a follow up video!! I feel so sorry for both of y'all. Take your time please rebuilding it. We'll still be here

[@martynrollinson]

You might see one in 3 or 4 months.... All these projects,one video a week.... Do the math.

[@ExpatonTwoWheels]

Probably just popped the welds on your intake manifold 😂

[@robbap1]

perfect video short and to the point, keep making like this

[@Lillia-nu2xt]

You're a natural, keep doing what you do

[@michaelchandra7033]

DSM stands for Damn, Short Maintenance

[@sleepyfaryna]

You’re doing the lords work

[@manrs6037]

That evo X sound sickkk🤤

[@aylahughes9185]

i have a high boost 420 powered 1st gen neon. its maybe the most powerful one in the world still running. 707whp at 32 psi at 8600 rpm. i run around at 36psi or higher on the street. all i can say is i run double worm clamps on every boost coupler, i have a custom manifold, the biggest arps i can run, a mls headgasket, and i still lift the head sometimes. next time i am going to be running a solid steel gasket with fire ring inserts. look into them. its what all the b58 guys run. a saab dude named rochester house of boost may be your cheapest and easiest option as far as getting one made. look into it.

[@intoTheEther1]

Next boss challenge: crankwalk!

[@yehpez7808]

Honestly, the simplicity of this video was nice

[@GTRFREAK17]

Brutal! These are the dice we roll though...

[@coinhunter3758]

Love eagle talons! Can't wait for the next episode on this

[@chrismorgan7020]

F to the the headgasket. Pretty standard make econo box go real fast content. and its what im here for. keep it comin!

[@jellofuel]

usually an uplifting video is motivational, but great video!

[@for_british_eyes_only4570]

The pure rage Ben applied to that handbrake after it broke down 😂 I can't 🤣

[@BoostLeekdMedia]

*500hp engine sees boost* Boost: "yeah, imma head out" (spongebob meme)

[@henrirobbins3029]

The number of similarities I see between this car and building a 20v 1.8t is insane. Glad to know issues with 20-year-old turbo 4-cylinders are pretty universal!

[@brando3006]

I just love admiring the green nature

[@maddriftzz3007]

"Now me and the mad scientist gotta rip apart the block and replace the piston rings you fried"

[@grantdylee]

i feel this so much. sometime having bad luck just keep adding