I bought a new car and already regret it.

[@smokinschannel5840]

Clearly from the thumbnail it's an eclipse

[@typedrew]

There’s literally no way to tell

[@michaelblacktree]

Captain Obvious is here to save the day! 😏

[@advantist]

Thanks for letting me know! could have never guessed

[@Mrspyderracing]

Naw man it’s obviously a s14 zenkie

[@AntilleanConfederation]

Is that a Supra !!!

[@collinwiedel]

“Our audience is a bunch of morons” I love this KZbin channel.

[@feisaljauharitufail]

And I feel morons too. I just want that car but reality bites me.

[@tydontdy3459]

If those kids could read, they'd be very upset

[@RANnewlife]

feel honored to take that compliment

[@murdoch9106]

Statistically he's probably not wrong

[@razzor4708]

Never do a YT vote polls ☝😂

[@ravynx]

This car is a prime candidate for Mark learning how to clean up the rust, weld in new panels, and start learning to paint; video content gold. I enjoy seeing y'all poke and prod into other people's builds and then go about it the right way; can't wait for more of this content.

[@PolymerLad]

Ben Thorn series are like a Ghibli Hero's Journey Ben Lin series are like Dante's Inferno

[@WretchedPotato]

based references

[@albertocisneros9946]

So I can tell you from experience being a part of the DSM community your gonna see why this car is so underrated. The 4G63 is a great motor which can handle a lot of abuse, and yes DSM are temperamental and that’s due to being beat and abused over time like this poor car has, but luckily it’s on the right hands and being able to make 350whp on the janky set up it’s on its very impressive. With some love and a stand-alone ECU and some E85 you’ll make fast and easy power, and the big plus is that it’s AWD even if the swap is dog shit, it’s gonna hell you big time. I’m super excited to see this girl come to live and rip down the streets. Just be patient w the car and get to know its character, welcome to the DSM community!

[@onecleangti]

this comment aged like fine wine lol. did you see the roadtrip yet? haha

[@makifrable]

​@@onecleangtiI wouldn't say that was the fault of the platform. For me It should be counted as a poor job of the previous owner for sure. A shame actually, some nice parts were up there, if you know what I mean.

[@lostmypicks]

I miss my 98 tsi awd so much

[@Jarot]

Imagine selling a car to Ben then getting roasted for an entire build series 😂

[@elliotness981]

Tbf tho, the seller burned Ben by not disclosing just how much rust and body rot there is

[@RealBearFace]

​@@elliotness981true bet Ben bought this at night after scanning it with his phone light. Bro should've taken the monetary L and just bit the bullet and buy a decent example GSX. Still gonna watch tho ❤

[@kmpaton]

Id definitely name and shame this level of nondisclosure

[@Happymali10]

I wonder if he bought it in person or if they're too recognizable in the US and have someone "off-camera" buy it for them.

[@typedrew]

@@RealBearFacerough cars are better content

[@tylerreid2446]

I cant wait to find out what other nightmares hide behind the body panels. Next challenge: Make the DSM a reliable daily

[@BrokeWrench]

Thats easy. Rebuild it from the ground up with a proper budget. They are unreliable because $20 and a trip to home depot would net you 50hp. Then you could boost around until you found a bigger turbo for $300 and slapped it on. Make sure you set the boost to 21psi on the new turbo since thats what you were running on the stock one. Then when your maxing out the injectors and overunning the stock BOV (if you haven't switched to a crushed metal BOV) it blows up. Not sure why it died it was only 300hp or so

[@the_green_hatch9420]

As a former DSM owner I am super excited to watch this build!

[@joshpetrielli5708]

Me too!!!!

[@matthewgriffiths527]

As a former DSM owner get that credit card ready.

[@savejeff15]

Did it rust away?

[@jmst300]

Same. I still miss mine 😅

[@kottyking]

I had a evo3 16g powered 1g and eventually built a holdet hx35 powered 2g. Those were the days.

[@deazy3409]

I once flew all the way to Rhode Island to buy a GST. In 45 seconds of inspecting it I was pushing holes into the frame rails with my thumb. I flew home lol. God bless DSMers

[@Conn0rKent]

As a former DSM owner I can't wait for more episodes on this horrorshow.

[@julianray5240]

Over the years, I go to Gears and Gasoline when I'm itching for high quality car videos and find myself even more surprised by how great the production value is and how knowledgeable these guys are.

[@yoann0490]

Love me an Eclipse ! Sad to see it in such a rotten state, though... I know it's a lot of work and money, but I really hope you try and save this car. Can"t wait for the next episode.

[@adamlul]

Unfortunately that's how most of them are now, unless you're willing to drop a ton of money on an increasingly rare example. It's a shame, because I'd love to pick up another 1G.

[@DiZZoLabs]

Eclipse GST. A unicorn for sure. I would love to see this saved.

[@Frightenerd]

Me too, it looks like a very interesting project, and I hope we get a saved Eclipse in the end

[@36sword]

​@@adamlulI have a bone stock clean 1g gsx in red

[@joeyoung4309]

Thats awesome its a GST-X, ive got alot of respect for the guys who go through with that conversion, youre basically taking the entire rear from a GSX and installing it onto a GST.

[@alicastro6262]

The dyno tuning made me excited for this car, it has great potential.

[@joeyoung4309]

Im excited to see what happens when the car gets a proper 3" exhaust and some more work, since its on dsmlink v3 and it obviously isnt using a MAF that means the MAF signal is free to use for a ethanol sensor, means getting the car onto E85 wouldnt be hard as its now got giant injectors and a solid fuel pump. TLDR a 3" exhaust and some e85 would let this car easily pickup alot of power very easily IMO

[@ellwoodwolf]

This is a good build, a little of the basics of how to make an older/someone’s else’s project work. Even though the body is bad, he definitely got his money’s worth on a built engine that didn’t pop at 33 psi. 6500 for a 33 psi 4g63....

[@thenon-vapingsubie]

As a moron who bought a rusted and clapped out impreza coupe, I completely understand the pain and frustration. A good body shop that’s willing to help will save a lot of heartache! Love all the videos guys! Now we need a New York to California series with the RX-8 and GST

[@ryanking6811]

I just want to say, I love watching Mark do his thing on this channel. Awesome addition to the team. And maybe your videographers should do another day trip video

[@ainmeile]

Mark's deadpan energy is 11/10

[@Itesmassive]

17:25 - "That's awesome! I love working on this car!" - Ben, I felt that so much. I think all of us have been here.

[@Zaaf2003]

Can't wait to see the rust repair though

[@NuclearPineapple]

I’m gonna take a guess that they’re gonna part it out and put the engine in another eclipse or evo

[@Zaaf2003]

@@NuclearPineapple or they might put it in something random we don't know

[@codyjohnson7201]

Not gonna lie, I do like high horse power builds, but I can check out other channels on yt for that. I love what you guys are doing with the racing and build series, but ultimately, I really love your camera work and editing style. Keep up your editing team, and I will watch whatever car builds you enjoy doing! Thank you for your great content!

[@worldrage619]

I’m 2017 before the gsx raised in value I took my cousin to go look at a 98 gsx. It had a beautiful paint job and ran pretty good and and appeared fairly visible. It had a questionable strut tower repair. But looking under the car you were greeted with appeared to be a fresh black undercoating. Well we bought the car for 5k and needed to jack it up. The frame rail disintegrated. We realized the entire underbody was covered and behind repair. Eventually the rear control arm mounting point on the body disintegrated. The car was mechanically totaled. Now it’s my donor for my gst.

[@Sajuuk9]

I don't care about high hosepower, i like you guys fixen up and improving cars.. and then race or roadtrip them!

[@bjsteg79]

Ayyyyeeee welcome to car rebuilding/restoration! Get it stopping, get it running, make your structural mods, then strip it down and fix all rust. Then build the car using new bushings, seals, and consumables where possible. Then you get to spend the next year chasing down gremlins... it's fun!

[@iansumagui6046]

We are definitely getting another roadtrip!!!

[@이준일-s5r]

In City Racer, an online racing game that has been in service for 20 years in Korea, many users say they wish the Mitsubishi Eclipse model would be released.

[@jellofuel]

22:58 would be the perfect spot to impose "danger to manifold" on the lap top. 😂😂 The floor's already gone, so you don't even have to worry about that falling out too

[@MrNando43]

I’m here for the rust and the “I build it myself“ charm

[@juanga69]

As a former GsT owner and a actual Rx8 owner very happy and excited to see outcome of this series! 💪🏾🔥

[@gatoLOCOplayloselaughwin]

Just wanted to tell you how good your content is made: I had a really bad mood, was really down. But your style, editing and overall art of content picked me right back up and made me feel better. Your channel is KZbin gold! And I’m very thankful for all your work ❤

[@Corvetteran88]

You guys are making the best car content on the internet. I love that you don’t chase insane hp numbers, you chase lap times! I’m definitely more of an American car guy but I love what you guys are doing

[@gundamzaku214]

come to think of it, they should do a proper American muscle build, and that camero did not count :)

[@thefalconwillriseagain]

7:08 really got to me.. I can really relate with their problem here. an everyday requirement of mine has finally been mentioned here for which i am really very thankful. big W to gears and gasoline...

[@mrcartease]

This reminds me so much of buying a mk1 gti at night and found so much rust that I had no other choice to part it out… the I discovered my salvage business 😂

[@4idiots_garage]

this is a prime example of why its important to have a good start, so much time and money will be spent to try and fix the fuckery of the previous owner. i have a fb rx7 (82) with a 12a in it and i am in the middle of doing the same thing.

[@smward1126]

It’s really amazing how much you guys listen to your fans. Y’all are the best

[@koltrountree5219]

Honestly I love how diverse the content is on G&G,keep up the good work! And buy cali cars,no rust!

[@peterga3658]

i LOVE the Rx8 ... by far my favorite cheap sport car and the best part 90% of the ppl who bought those didnt know how to maintain them so now they re almost free ...

[@INTEL-REDACTED]

im so glad youre saving one of these. a 2g eclipse GSX is my dream street racer build. i really love these cars, ever since i was a kid.

[@CorpseExplosion]

Instantly my most anticipated build on the channel! I think the potential of these cars is tremendous. Good luck!

[@carguy7627]

I've always liked this generation Eclipse ever since it came out. I hope your goal is to turn this into a nice example. Looks like a skill builder project.

[@yurcivicsux2245]

Awesome to see an RX8 and an Eclipse. And FD3S ….Love this channel. Been around those cars my whole adult life.

[@Chocolate_dragon]

Buy a welder, get some metal and start fixing the floor pans. It’s not the end of the world. A journey of learning to weld and fixing this would be an awesome series to watch. I’d love to have this car as a project. Spent a ton of time in a gsx in high school.

[@dylanlevesque1689]

This is such a bad decision and I love it Excited to see the next episode!

[@SummonerArthur]

This is one of, if not, my dream car. Its really sad to know most of them are rusty like that. Still, someday I hope I will be able to build one. Nardo gray. Carbon fiber hood. Bout 300 HP. Some cool wheels and thats it. I dont need much more than that. Street built.

[@redslate]

When he said, "We're going to need lots of _hose_ ," my mind playfully interpreted it as "lots of _hoes_ ," and I giggled. Then he actually wrote, "Hoes." 😅

[@ainmeile]

He knows his audience: a bunch of morons.

[@davekal]

I was looking for this comment lol

[@KidouTenshi]

As someone who's just spent 6 months to refurbish someone else's similarly shoddy work on a 93' MR2 Turbo... I feel you, Ben, I feel you.

[@Zpoq]

Drove a ‘95 eagle talon ESI and eventually got a ‘97 talon TSI AWD. That was the first time I had held a crank in my hands and then drove that same engine after rebuilding it. Needless to say I’m very fond of these money pits. (My mom also has an rx8 that I grew up driving when she let me lol)

[@jlpeng9036]

6500$ for it is crzy. i totally didn't expect that! it looks more like a 1500$ car initially

[@joshanderson1122]

Could have went dodge stealth and chased electrical gremlins till the end of time I guess. I love it and yet very sad that rolling dumpster fire cost 6500

[@Nanan00]

As the owner of a 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX I can say from personal experience that they are a fucking money pit. But god damn when it is running right it is just insanely fun to drive. DSMlink is really old but it could do self tuning with a wide band, at least close enough to get you drivable but you will need a dyno tune, I went from around 300 whp off the learned tune to around 400 whp and damn near doubled the gas mileage. The sunroof in those cars is known to leak and it gets the floor and back seat well, that gas tank access is factory but there should be a rubber boot over it.

[@IcemanJD08]

I'm excited for this build. I know there is a lot of rust which is unfortunate, but I know what you guys are capable of building and I can't wait to see what you do with this one.

[@AndorRadnai]

21:46 Tall Ben, Short Ben, Injector Ben, and Ken… And then we also have Marc and Mark… That’s satisfying for some reason!

[@magzorentertainment6887]

Can't wait for more Eclipse content! I really hope you stick with this car, and give it a makeover. It will be so much fun to watch! #NextEpisodeCantComeSoonEnough!

[@Shim_Shack_Studio]

Dude, Probably one of the BEST cars you have ever bought for the channel! I have owned over 20 DSM's in my lifetime. It's a love and hate relationship, but with heavy emphasis on "love." GS-T's are fine, I know y'all want a GSX, I've always been happy with my GS-T's... You sure you don't wanna feel insane torque steer in a built 5hundo Horse GS-T? Hahaha. My built GS-T back in Highschool, pulled HARD LEFT and Jerked back to the right. If you weren't prepared, you would certainly eat the shoulder. Gosh, I miss the days when you could buy 2nd Gen Eclipses for under 2-3 grand and was considered, "Good Condition." Have fun guys!

[@jacobmantei9341]

Dude I'm so hyped for this! I've wanted one since I was a kid!

[@sixeight8683]

Honestly Id enjoy seeing rust repair on this car. I know its a lot of work and it may require someone else to be doing the welding, but it would also give piece of mind that the car won't keep rotting away.

[@blueboy3591]

My S14 had rust straight through the floor on both sides. We cut out and replaced the entire floor pan. Lots of work but it is doable! Save this car!

[@asher4085]

I respect the diversity of your projects, the research education and fun you gents put forward. Horsepower isn’t everything for me. Thank you very much

[@oneslowwdsm]

Hey guys I've owned several DSMs. Take it easy on that transmission AFAIK no one builds them anymore and parts are scarce. That rust is bad but not the worst I've seen Usually they rust on the strut towers and rear rocker panels.

[@R21654A]

I really enjoyed this episode and I reallly enjoyed Ken.. super awesome guy. ❤

[@gregorymcwilliams7493]

As a person who had been in and around DSMs for over 15 years none of this is surprising nor out of character for our community. This is absolutely what you get when a chassis like this can be had for so cheap and can essentially make power for even cheaper. It attracts a certain type of owner and leads to our beautiful cars ending up in this state. Remember the rust you see is like the tip of an ice burg where the majority of it is below the surface out of sight. Ben best of luck and I know this car is in capable good hands. I'm sure you get this often but if you need anything I'd be happy to lend advice/help or most likely know someone who can.

[@Dsm_chuy]

Im an eclipse owner and im starting to love my eclipse more because of this video 😂

[@turbo_brian]

Omg I f-ing love it. That's the most dsm thing I've ever seen. "No tune, but I put all the wastegate springs available in so it should make all the power" I remember back in the day people welding the wastegate flapper shut on the stock turbo for all the boost. Hahahaha this is the exact dsm experience I could have hoped for you.

[@jdmtc5]

I like how Mark said he is a "Mitsubishi guy" and asked if the smashed framed rails are a Mitsubishi thing. 😅

[@BrokeWrench]

Thats how you know hes always had too much money for a DSM😂

[@jdmtc5]

@@BrokeWrench he doesn't even know what DSM is.

[@robbalinski1606]

As a current dsm owner 7 to be exact I'm super pumped to see this build. Your cars still not as rusty as my winter beater tsi awd jack stands go right through my frame rail. If I'd have known you guys were looking for one I could have sold you a rust free California gst bone stock with mint interior for far less then 6.5k. Fuck in rust belt canada they aren't even that pricy

[@ILOVEsnickers15]

WE MAKING IT OUT THE UNDERGROUND WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯💯

[@svgPhoenix]

Cringe

[@Ep1demic]

Man this is a dream build for me. I had 2 talson tsi awds and a gst. Had to sell them for college courses. Miss them so much. Hopefully one day i can build one again. Cant wait to follow this series.

[@JamaicanCowboy]

Okay, I'm stoked for this build and I knew that exhaust was going to be a problem 😂

[@JoeyCarb]

The first of our friends to get a real job picked up a '97 gst. He had a clapped out na version in highschool and college and this was his dream car. He detailed it regularly and took immaculate care of it. Every time I saw it the thing looked worse and worse. He sold it after a couple years and picked up a wrx. He said no matter what he did, the gst was falling apart in front of his eyes. He was convinced there would be no more 2nd gen eclipses on the road by 2020. I just sent him this video for proof that he was kinda sorta wrong.

[@jakedougherty6000]

I love this alongside the RX8 restoration/build. Maybe I just romanticize cars more than most, but I love "saving" a car and making it as great as it can be

[@Kuzzy95]

I LOVE this new eclipse series. I bought a 95 Talon right after graduating high school in 2013 so I could learn how to drive stick. I loved that car, it was so much fun to drive, and it also rusted away into oblivion to the point of it being a danger to me and everyone else on the road. Can't wait to live vicariously through Ben and see him stress out like I did 11 years ago lol

[@trivy1752]

you might immediately regret it but i dont! looking forward to more content!!

[@N3rdburgring]

For the love of God please do not let the little kids asking for horsepower content make you think we don’t absolutely love the racing. Best KZbin content I’ve watched in years.

[@MartinGrier]

This is definitely my new favourite/top KZbin build. I really hope the rust issue can be solved (economically) and this car saved. High horsepower builds are fun and all but there is an opportunity here (like most of the G&G builds) to save this iconic car. Best of luck to you. Also, we gotta go back to 2 videos a week please 🙏

[@seths.7793]

This gen Eclipse GST is what got me into cars. My dad had one when I was a kid, and it was fun to ride in. Eventually gave it to family then got an 02 WRX Impreza but really the Eclipse is what got me into cars

[@StudiousAsp7200]

Mark is funny asf and very entertaining, same to both Ben’s of course

[@josephkelly4893]

$6500 is a good buy for the motor alone, the free 4wd eclipse is a nice bonus, looking forward to this build gents

[@saviordream]

These 2nd gen Eclipses were favorites of mine growing up. Wanted a '99 GS-X for the longest time. Could never afford one when they were new, and nowadays I don't have the time, space, or mechanical know-how to properly bring one back to life. Instead I'm going to live vicariously through this series.

[@leroyperoutyjr.8738]

Now this is something that I can get behind. Love the work and yes... Every northeast DSM is a sunken ship.

[@joshuanickoloff2997]

Just sold my 2g gs-t and I miss it so much 😢 I sold it for 5k, no rust virtually at all running and driving amazingly too and the interior was in such great shape I loved it so much only blemish was a 3 inch sized dent in the quarter. Still in stock turbo and side mount I took pride in keeping it stock, within 4 days new owner sent me a picture of a new turbo swap and a front mount intercooler with no supporting mods. I wanted to cry. I regret it so much

[@EddyEP2]

Very nice to see a RX8 and a eclipse being revived together on te channel…cannot wait for the rest of the build series🙏🏻

[@Xbox360Tech1]

There is my boi Kenny, BlackSheepTuning !!! Yes Sir!!

[@NewportMenthol100s]

As someone who got a 1998 Spyder GSX right out of high school for $1500 in 2008 I can tell you that even though that was 15 years ago, Eclipses were this rusty always. Matter of fact, my 1994 3000gt and my 2011 and 2014 Lancers all had stupid amounts of rust. Granted im from New England but Mitsus are just rust buckets. I do not regret moving away from Mitsu to Honda recently.

[@Nightcoreninja115]

Love to see you guys picking up my dream car and yes ( it’s horrible I know but it is what it is). I couldn’t believe you picked this up and I was so excited like a little kid when I seen the cover. I hope to see more

[@kmatax9237]

Finally some fun projects showing EXACTLY what you can expect to get when you buy these cars, rx8 with a bad engine and a hacked to almost death dsm. Don’t expect to find 🦄 out there kids, this is it!

[@Bobby4v]

When that guy chimes in saying "my buddy has a built motor eclipse with a big ass turbo making 650 hp and will come gap all of you tonight" this is usually what the car actually is.

[@seanwiebe9611]

I used to have a gsx, absolutely loved that car and it was a massive pos. I’m going to be all in on this series

[@Slimerancher69]

Yeah I have 3 eclipses and the trunk, the rockers, strut towers and where the seat bolts too all were rusty and had to be repaired luckily I weld so it was all done properly.

[@thedsmbroadway3780]

I absolutely love this! I'm a sucker for DSMs!! I want that car now😭😭😭😭 in my eyes It's the most beautiful thing ever!!!

[@Juggernut444]

Cars are interesting if they have under 300 hp and can do high lateral g. Track and autocross people understand. 😊

[@shahidali619]

As someone who lives in the UK, I've always wanted to know more about these cars since the opening scenes of The Fast & The Furious, so I am really going to enjoy this build as it progresses. Thank you.

[@eelx]

I have a GST that stopped working on me after blowing a radiator hose that got broke into just sitting around. Happy to see someone working on one.

[@jasonpavlik4904]

I did a conversion like this before. The rails are weak, and you have to use a 2 by 4 to jack it up. A gsx 3 inch exhaust is expensive and hard to find in stock. I used the gst exhaust which was cheap ebay thing and moved a bend in the dp to clear the transfer, also fabbed the axle back to be straight.

[@CO_EVO_8]

DSM's may be problematic and a constant headache but we all love them when they run. They're beautiful cars!

[@BasEerdenKeuning]

This is a great car for Mark to practice bodywork and rust repair onto. Worst case this is one ready for next years race season.

[@aaiosa]

11:19 Hey Ben👋🏽 It's a great platform to track. I think you should restore the Evo and track the eclipse. Just like the other Ben have the Subbie and track the civic, you should restore and have the Evo and track the eclipse along with the na MR2 so you have a na and turbo track car with a beautiful Evo

[@ThatGameplayGuy]

It'd honestly be super cool to see a collab with Do It With Dan if you're both willing and interested considering what he has learnt from the rust issues in his camaro. The eclipse seems in much better shape than his camaro is or at least was.

[@smallppman4164]

i bought a 1999 eclipse gs and got really lucky, it was owned by an older guy who was looking to get rid of it so the inside was good, a lil rust but thats basically common on an eclipse now and i got it for 3k so it isnt an awd or turbo'd but i am going to do those things to it eventually and it hasnt broken yet as ive had it for 1 year already

[@iankun1]

OMG, finally someone is doing a DSM build. I remember when these cars first came out....what a blast from the past!

[@ivtec4fun55]

lol I've always called those rust bucket cars "East Coast Cars", I used to wrench at a dealer and I would add extra hours for rust like that, literally price ourselves out of the job, it worked like a charm.

[@henrynewgent8481]

I know it’s a joke that building this kinda stuff is all that gets views, but damn it really is my favorite thing to watch. I love seeing a car go from a shitbox to a dope ride

[@nexusk9services194]

I’m currently completely restoring a GST and converting to AWD. I also just got my Galant VR4 driving. My advice to you when it comes to DSM’s is: 1) DON’T cut corners 2) Use OEM as much as possible