First Gameplay - Prologue | Cyberpunk: 2077 - The Board Game

[@DutchllMassacre]

The tension of the timer is great in my opinion, but there should definitely be an option to play the game without a timer at all. Alternatively, if the player is trying a stealthy approach, the timer shouldn’t start until they are discovered. Of course, this doesn’t apply if the mission requires a timer because, for example, the target might leave the area in a few minutes.

[@DarkAngelCaliban]

[ BGG community realizing they will need to house rule another GoB game ]: "Oh sh*t, here we go again"

[@albpalma]

I like aesthetics, the miniatures, the lore... but absolutely I'll have to print a new rule book :(

[@SteveRB511]

But, of course - at their core, most games are design kits disguised as finished products. 😉

[@Titanicus_]

I've watched this a few times. The biggest issue is that there is NO meaningful game under the timer. You move cubes around to perform simple tasks like moving. The enemies do NOT move at all or chase you. There is no dodging, cover, etc just simple dice roll. Worse, there are no reactions in the game to anything the players do during their turns. The characters aren't that different, same stats, a few different cards. At one point, the hacker did more damage than the mantis blade guy?? This is anemic game design. The timer hides that there is no meaningful gameplay happening underneath the surface

[@Danny_DaKid]

So like The Witcher game they made

[@Titanicus_]

@@Danny_DaKid yeah but a far downgrade of that. This game needs way more thinking and several revisions. This is not even ready for a teaser let alone being sent to reviewers. Although it would be interesting to see what reviewers honestly say because there are glaring issues with this game.

[@markwilliamson3043]

​@dannyv6655 Actually, I quite enjoyed the old world solo with expansions and the fan made AI player. I'm not sure this is doing much for me, though. shame.

[@Titanicus_]

@@markwilliamson3043 yeah this feels like 3 steps below the witcher

[@Danny_DaKid]

Oh so after expansions and fan made modes THEN it was good… so in other words the base game was lackluster just like what we’re seeing here… lol

[@MAnto19-666]

Honestly app + timer is a big no-no for me: if i wanted to play a videogame i would be

[@freedom404ever]

Love it!~ Already pledged and real for some real-time action!

[@warpaint9385]

My excitement for this has gone from 10 to about 2. What is the go with this timer making it chaotic? It’s so bad you can’t even follow what is happening in the playthrough. That mechanic needs to go. People don’t play board games to have couple hours of frantic stress. Really don’t get the decision to run the game on timer. Sometimes being innovative is not always the best option.

[@DIM3NS]

I'm so on your side. Maybe instead of the timer, change it to a surtent amount of turn per player. Still have a restriction but no pressure.

[@matteoviviani8845]

Thanks for the video. Really like the components and the general feel of the game, but I've to say this video reminds me of the first one Awaken Realms did for Stalker TBG: a lot of gameplay without really explaining the rules in depth. The result is a bit confusing as soooo much stuff is happening, so I basically watched it without really knowing WHAT was happening (for example, why enemies move that way? what triggers them? why the players are choosing that craft instead of that other craft? etc etc)

[@Erlioniel]

So after watching the gameplay I can say what I did like and what I think needs to be addressed. There are a lot of quite negative comments, let me try to be more on constructive side: - Timer. A BIG debate question, but I actually like the idea behind it. Yes, it limits 'deepness' of gameplay, but at the same time it makes pre-planning quite important and forces bad choices and mistakes. - Digital timer. Here things comes to a bit of edgy. I think it's not good for any board game to require an electronic device to enjoy it. I do understand that with this option you have more control over difficulty based on the feedback after the release, but I still don't like it. Story telling? Fine, let it be optional, but the game must be playable without a phone in my opinion. - Asymmetry. Even tho I do feel that balancing asymmetrical characters is quite a challenge (especially when you have time pressure etc), but I would love more difference between characters. We need to represent stealth & hacking in more way, tho right now the game is about shooting guards. - Complexity. Again, I do adore the timer idea during the action, but I think there should be a little bit more flexibility during pre-planning / cooldown phase. As an idea it might be worth to move actual crafting from the action phase, but keep material collection during as an example. - Maps & randomization - this is not covered fully with this video, however I'd say that it would be good to understand replayability. The point is the game requires quite some experience to be effective over the mission and if playing the same missions over & over is boring - most people will be sorted out on prologue. Overall I think the game as presented is quite unique in a way that it's really catching phases from the setting well. But there is a room for improvement for sure

[@ScytheNoire]

Doesn't really capture the stealthy, patient, tactical gameplay of the video game, at least how it teaches you to play the game. This is more hectic than the video game, which is a very odd choice.

[@cyberbugs7019]

The video game was also very hectic in my experience

[@KevinoftheCosmos]

@@cyberbugs7019 @ScytheNoire I'd say that it was slow/quiet/measured for as long as you can manage, and then it gets loud/hectic/fast once shtf

[@MrDragonkin]

Maybe you played it wrong… The video game is pure adrenaline and chaos.

[@fubarbox]

It looks like this could be a good game. It falls into the category of games like Project Elite for me. Project Elite is a very fun/a bit stressful game that has timed (2 min) phases followed by planning like this one seems to. It needs a timer otherwise the game would be too easy/simple causing it to be not fun. I feel like this game is working under the same conditions. Just using less dice. That puts me in a strange spot this will be to simple to buy/enjoy if it is not on a timer and I already have Project Elite KS Edition for a time-based game that is similar. Perhaps this could be better than Project Elite with the extra story and campaign elements, But I am still happy with PE and have tons more gameplay to explore with it. Although I was excited for this, I cannot see myself spending the amount of money this will cost considering it will just sit on the shelf. I am sure some will love it though because it does look good. On the brightside with all the KSers these days I saved money to use for a different one. Thanks for the video!

[@patrikserban9030]

Create a non timer variant of the rules and im in for the deluxe :D

[@GravityPro]

I appreciate trying something new in a game like a timer. But honestly, the gameplay loop in this game is kind of lame. There are so many good games you could have drawn inspiration from before trying to add a timer on what you have now.

[@masterperfekt]

Świetna robota! Błagam zróbcie dodatek z fixerami. Niech każdy ma kilka misji pobocznych i jeden główny wątek dla każdego z fixerów. Tak jak w grze, kontrakty od fixerow też stanowiły duża część gry i przynosiły spore korzyści. Także myślę że fajnie byłoby je zaimplementować. Fajnie też jakbyście zaimplementowali mieszkania i pojazdy, bo jednak to były ważne elementy gry. Może niech pojazdy dają bonusy do misji pobocznych? Więcej lootu, więcej obrony/życia albo więcej akcji do wykonania na mapie night city? Wszystko w zależności od rodzaju pojazdu (jakiś opancerzony wóz nomadów więcej pancerza oraz dmg, motocykl więcej akcji na mapie) Natomiast z mieszkań zrobić jakieś bazy ekipy, które można ulepszać dokupić nowe wyposażenie i mieć z tego jakieś profity? Będą jakieś walki z Bossami? Pojedynek ze Smasherem czy Odą pod koniec któregoś z rozdziałów byłby epicki! Myśleliście coś nad gangami z Night City, jakieś figurki, główne postaci czy misje przeciwko konkretnym gangom?

[@bardok6569]

Timer and chaotic... not looking good for me. I can understand that it is trying to show feeling from running but the PC game was not about that. Maybe rename it to GhostRunner and it should match :D

[@LK_LOBO29]

I watch this gameplay and hear: "I take this", "I go here", "I use this card" and so on... No explanation - what card? Fight, action or other. What do you pick up from the board? etc... First "action round" should be without timer and just to show options players have. And only then show us how it feels to be playing with time pressure. Most of this gameplay looks chaotic af... Basically it looks like you guys where playing only for people who already know the rules and have pIayed this game dozens of times... You didn't explained anything. I suggest, before doing gameplay video, to watch other channels explaining games' rules. I would say that your marketing team needs to rethink how to proper present the game and it's mechanics to the audience. Production quality looks great, IP is great but gameplay, after watching the video, is really weird...

[@JoeHuddleston]

Well... I'm significantly less excited after seeing real time and an app. It's not going to be a fit for my gaming group. I'll keep following the project, but it looks like this will be a pass for me.

[@vinniv6806]

same

[@Cross8ow]

Game has timer "thanks, passed".

[@outofit08]

Timer really makes since. Its a Heist job It should be tense and time should be of the essence.

[@Cross8ow]

@@outofit08 Not for me though, I don't play games with timers + Lukas Wozniak has yet to design a solid game.

[@cyder534]

@@Cross8ow Why are you here then?

[@Titanicus_]

@@Cross8ow agree, his games look great but the gameplay is mid at best. There were so many used Witcher Old World bundles on sale on ebay after the campaign

[@Cross8ow]

@@cyder534 because i was interested in IP obviously :D you know each game has different mechanics.. witcher OW is chore to play in 4, PoD is boring as hell (backed it initially, cancelled later) And this has timer.. not buying.

[@lone_pathfinder]

Can this game be played without the count-down timer? That is a showstopper for me.

[@GoonBoard]

For now, this is the prototype version. We're still working on the final game, so the best we can do is encourage you to follow our project and see how it will develop.

[@lone_pathfinder]

@@GoonBoard Can you imagine asking a few friends over for a nice afternoon out of the rain after a hard week's work. Sitting down to relax with a beer and looking forward to a board game, fun and laughter. The option is to play Cyberpunk, hunched over a table tied to playing a game with rules you barely know, trying to analyse a ton of options, as much as possible while a count-down decides your fate? No time to take a sip of beer or throw out a joke or two. Or we could play Witcher the Old World, or something similar laid-back and mellow instead. If you want to retain the sense of tension and threat with a count-down timer, then make that an optional rule - this is my suggestion. During the demo I saw each of you perform a set number of tasks per count-down round - 5-10, depending on the scenario before the timer ran out. Every player played the same number based on sequential play. Add extra action or two for each extension of time. So instead of limiting based on time, limit the number of turns based on your experience of number of turns you can play during your time-limit. Add an action or two if time is extended. Also, you can modify the number for easy, medium, or difficult play.

[@DIM3NS]

​@lone_pathfinder You casually made the game like 10x better. Hire this guy 😂 but honestly, this would be so much more relaxing and playable with new people.

[@scottiewolfe]

Also: those health tracker stands are awesome. Impressed by how they make tracking health in a real-time phase quick and simple.

[@genXstream]

I'm just happy they're reusable so I don't have to paint one for every bad guy. 😁

[@Titanicus_]

why are the enemies just sitting there? That looks so boring.

[@CommDante]

Seems that was what the dice rolling was for, you exchange combat ... so it's simultanious and has to be done before your turn.

[@Titanicus_]

@@CommDante the issue is that the enemies do NOT move at all. Or chase you. There is no dodging, cover just simple dice roll. This is anemic game design

[@CommDante]

@@Titanicus_ Yeah, I guess that's what the timer is for ... Quick card play etc to convolute there isn't much actual decision/tactical play. In bgg terms I guess it would be around 1.5 which is 'could be fun, when played with kids' territory longterm. Kinda makes it even more basic than Zombicide. Your remark just also made me notice that all enemies are just basic bullet sponges and have no real mechanics. They just do basic damage and as such never do hacks or anything. Also, full stealth doesn't seem to be an option either... As timer runs anyway. . Such a shame, I kinda wanted a sort of dungeon crawler, but with guns etc in a cyberpunk setting orso.... But unless this goes for less than 50€ inc shipping, I have a hard time seeing this game as even casual interesting... . Also, everything seems to always be in a tower with a single square in the middle as the entrance/exit.... Which elevator ever had 4 entrances?

[@Titanicus_]

@@CommDante tricking us into thinking there is a game underneath the timer lol This game needs way more thinking and several revisions. This is not even ready for a teaser. This IP deserves an actual game. I wish Awaken Realms, or CMON got this license instead.

[@CommDante]

@@Titanicus_ Another thing that's even shown during the gameplay is that players mostly do their own thing and are little aware of each other's actions. So you could do something really fancy/cool and the other players will hardly notice it because they're doing their own things. Kind of all playing separately together... With minor interaction during the cooldown/planning phase.

[@westleyfarmer669]

Crazy how fun this was to watch. I can't wait to play!

[@SteveRB511]

The game art and graphic design, theme, and real-time mechanism got my attention but I've been going back and forth on pledging for this game. (I've pledged and canceled a couple of times) - I was really hoping for more "cyber" aspects. However, after watching quite a few videos, this gameplay plus a number of the later stretch goals have provided me with just enough cyber abstractions to finally feel confident in backing it. Part of my feeling is that the game design seems flexible enough for me to make it more like what I was looking for. Even if I don't, the game (with a few of the stretch goals) seems very engaging.

[@KevinoftheCosmos]

I just added my pledge. I love this videogame so much that I need to add the boardgame to my collection as well.

[@princetonnguyen9984]

Also, I like the STAP system as the real-time is thematic as an action game but also allows you plan during cooldown. My main critique so far is that though the graphic design and symbols are clean, it feels abstract. I wish there was a bit more art on the cards.

[@rcub3577]

Art and maybe names for those cards that add more symbols to the actions.

[@anthemsforautumn3542]

Looks awesome!!

[@princetonnguyen9984]

So if prologue is 3 missions does shard upgrades continue with you between missions and reset after the 3 missions?

[@KowashiHitori]

It looks fun... but there's no way the players I game with can deal with the timer. Which sucks because I would love to play this... but it's just not going to work with my group.

[@7onyga]

I did not expect much, but this looks like a real fun. I guess i am one of those who are excited about timer and tension it adds, but also i am asking myself if gameplay will still be interesting after couple of games. You collect shards, you play cards, and repeate. Does not seems like there is enought time and depth to strategies. Especialy if you play maps /scenarios repeatedly. Does and/or how game solve repleyability. Also if you have copy to spare for Czech Republic. Count me in.

[@MonoCeros5636]

Can we play David Martinez or others characters from Cyberpunk Edgerunner ?

[@kasaklubdemola8625]

BGG: Admin: Better Description Needed!

[@kostastzafi4514]

But what about vehicles??? They were a really important part in cyberpunk 2077! You should incorporate them in the board game for exploration etc...

[@WoWmeHELLO]

Ngl the real time element actually looks like it’s a lot of fun and engaging but I can understand how it might make some people hesitant about the game. The way hacking and shards work looks very cool and the fact that we get to explore Night City is so awesome. I am really curious to see more about the game. I’m definitely backing this one !!

[@Wafflebob]

Dang. I really thought this game looked great. Awesome minis, cool high quality components. Then I saw that it's just really bland and samey AND is timed. Totally saved me from mistakenly backing it. Still would like the minis though.

[@bozypl278]

Had a lot of fun playing this game on the video! 😁

[@tylerurian]

@BeforeYouPlay has a good playthrough, and thorough tutorial on the game mechanics, that do tbis game justice. For those who are skeptical after watching this play through, i highly reccomend checking out their playthrough and review. For me, first case scenario is having some preem minis and battle maps for my Cyberpunk TTRPGs 😎

[@RosomakMat]

I watched the gameplay and I must say that I'm still not convinced to play with a timer. Additionally, too much chaos due to the lack of explanation of the basic rules. Therefore, it is not known why something is done, how opponents move and how the selection of cards/resources/crafting works.

[@sebasoft]

I so want a neoprene mat for placing all the cards. Also sleeves

[@koenwijnants6499]

Can this be played. True solo. With 1 character ?

[@GoonBoard]

Please, follow the project. We'll give more info about that.

[@koenwijnants6499]

@@GoonBoard I'm a backer of Witcher Old World. And I will be a backer without any doubt for this game also ... looks so good !

[@kirillkrechetnikov1757]

It looks like you are aiming at tackling the alpha-player problem in coop games by introducing the timer so that the alpha has literally no time to handwave and orchestrate everyone. This is cool. But I have a feeling that you are introducing an even bigger issue as you go about it. With the real-time non-simultaneous action mechanics faster players will be on the backs of the slower ones all the time. Because the timer ticks for everyone when I am confused and can't decide what to do. I'm sure you have thought about it and would be curious to learn what is your thinking in this regard

[@davidtikwa423]

i like the tension of the timer and the playing it fast and on the spot gives teh idea of being real time but yet somehow turn based great move

[@GoonBoard]

Right? :D

[@davidtikwa423]

@@GoonBoard i all in backed the witcher and i played it a few times and loved it every time since, if this is even slightly on that level then gladly go back on the train (only please make sure the inserts are a bit better as sleeved the witcher cards are a mess)

[@TheInfction]

Cant wait to play it and see the minis and am really lookign forward to it but i cant help but wonder, will there be a mode without the timer? it feels stressfull and not what id bring to a cozy beer and bretzels gamenight, would be great if there was a "slower" way to play.

[@modlitwaSERCA]

Interesting... 😉😎

[@Nerdextrous]

When does this go live?

[@deusex3124]

After seeing an ad for this I thought I'd check it out. The world of Cyberpunk 2077 is ideal for a campaign oriented board game. From what I've seen here this definitely isn't it. I mean, where's the game? As others have noted there doesn't seem to be anything of substance under the timer. For a game that is supposedly action and combat oriented this looks like a tedious cube shuffler. Besides the apparent lack of game here for an IP associated with instantly recognisable art design and aesthetics this doesn't have any table presence at all. It's really something how there's some slick looking art on the box, but the game itself looks really bland. I understand this is a prototype, well it clearly needs a lot of work both mechanically and aesthetically before it's ready to hit anyone's table.

[@MoGarczarek]

Ok, I think this game is cool! I was sceptic about timer but after watching the gameplay I think it's a nice and quite fresh idea. You can relax and create the plan for the next move during the cooldown, but in action phase You have to act fast. I personally like chilling during board games, but the timer keeps player awake and focus. Nevertheless I'd love to have an option or a mode of the game, out of the box, to be able to play without the timer. I really can't wait the campaign and playing the game! All best!

[@marcinczyzewski5021]

It look's amazing, actions are smooth and interesting, there is a lot room for tactical approach. But still I can't get on most of things you do here :D. So I hope there will be video where you will explain slowly and clearly all actions you do in gameplay.

[@outofit08]

Can you do a mode similar to the witcher old world where you have story cards that impact the game outside of the main campaign game? Campaign games are so hard to table. "Edited" that timer is freaking COOL!!! Add phantom liberty maps and REED!

[@koenwijnants6499]

When does the campaign goes live ?

[@GoonBoard]

We haven't announced it yet. For now, the best way to not miss the campaign is to click the Follow button on Gamefound page ;)

[@rosenkrustev1514]

This looks fun and chaotic. Cannot wait for campaign.

[@scottiewolfe]

Watched the whole video, really like what I saw! Looks intense but in a good way. Good job translating the intensity of the video game's firefights to the tabletop. Question: I assume each Night City location has more than 1 large encounter card (during the exploration phase)?

[@zawiasfx]

app, timer... aight, at least money saved on this campaign. looks good visually tho

[@GoonBoard]

Have a look at our Video Update where we explain that you can actually play without the app. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iniriaWHlJ6skLs

[@zawiasfx]

@@GoonBoard is that full slow paced, turn based then, or is limiting time for action important fun factor

[@GoonBoard]

@@zawiasfx We believe that it is a subjective matter. For now, this is the prototype of the game with time limitation, and yes - we believe that here's one of the fun factors in the whole gameplay. We're still working on the final game, so we encourage you to keep an eye on the project evolution on our Gamefound page.

[@zawiasfx]

@@GoonBoard well sure watching it, proper good old turn based, no rush mode may change my mind

[@jakubtabisz3557]

Fajnie to wygląda, będą emocje. Dzięki za gameplay!

[@cristianturbian2513]

Not gonna lie, this seems pretty cool!

[@victorblh2fknji]

Will Cyberpunk 2077 board game have a French version?

[@victorblh2fknji]

Oh yes, during the 2nd launch phase, 3 months after the 1st. Apparently.

[@LEF3133]

I was going to go all in on this, then I started playing the game again and was on the fence. After watching this video I’m all out. It might look like 2077 but plays nothing like it.

[@JTrocks9]

Wait I’m confused, didn’t we already have a board game based on 2077 called Gangs of Night City? Is this the same thing but rebranded??? Also I thought CDPR stopped working on anything related to 2077 in favor of another witcher game

[@NeuroScientician]

Take my money

[@aureliena3984]

was ready to buy the full version at 300 dollars , but after knowing more this is a no no ! this game could be a great tactical stealt and coordinate actions cooperative gameplay, but instead of that this is just a gogo run and do whatever you want game... and the enemies don't even move to chase you... there's so much potential, but for now this don't look very interesting, sorry

[@liquiddude9855]

Timer ? Really ? No thx

[@alchkosac]

lol i dont understand, to complicated and timer :) huge pass for me

[@xg4m3CYT]

Such a cool theme, but completely ruined by the gameplay mechanics. It looks quite boring to play. There is no existing events or anything like that. Just a predefined path and that's it. It feels very static. Also, app is big no-no for me. If I wanted something digital, I rather play the game on my PC. I'm also not a fan of the timer. Overal, excitement went from 8 to 2 after this video and decided not to back it. It looks very generic with some very questionable design decisions.