First Impressions: Nike Vaporfly 3 | A Middle Packer’s Perspective

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[@Jameswmin]

I kind of like “hope you’re doing ok,” it’s like, let’s not set the bar too high!

[@KC_Runz]

So good to find someone who gives honest views from the middle of the pack rather than the super fit, insane PR Runners, thank you 😊 (Meant as a compliment btw!)

[@thejeffinvade]

I just got another vaporfly 2 from Nike outlet shop for $90 USD. I will get vaporfly 3 when the 4 come out😂

[@lisahughes6313]

Always look forward to your Sunday morning reviews!

[@tsubakichan]

Keep the "doing okay"! It's a signature as much as the GMYT~~~~

[@locomike102]

I actually tried these on yesterday and they have waaaaay too much rocker for a 2 hour half-marathon guy like me--they felt like they wanted to run without me. They are cool shoes and I loved the color but I ended up leaving with the Hoka Rocket X2--and just finished a PR 5k run in them this morning (I love them already).

[@victor-abel]

Thank you very much for the video. I appreciate your perspective on running shoes, it’s always considered when buying a new pair. I ran a half marathon today on the next % 2, you are very much right on the unique feeling of the midsole

[@HowIsThat69]

Brilliant you added times to your run!!

[@christinamartinez8132]

Great review as always Emily! I always thoroughly enjoy your reviews! 😊❤

[@matthiassventoest6800]

really appreciate your reviews…, much needed in running KZbin world. you aren’t the only one, but definitely one of the few. too many shoeTubers fall all over themselves to praise Nike, and “oh it’s the best shoe ever” .. but you, and it doesn’t work for me at marathon efforts.., but-gonna give it a try at 10K.., thank you

[@stevenleung1759]

Had my first workout in these. Absolutely loved them for tempo and MP pacing. When pushing faster on strides I had a little heel slippage tho. But this is probably my new race day shoe for sure.

[@pegaxes84]

Thank you for giving the perspective, very helpful 👍🏻

[@jimoconnor8597]

Finally, some awesome flyknit back again from Nike. Love this shoe. Just ran Boston in the OG AlphaFly but might use the Next% 3 for next year. Just awesome!

[@YaddaYaddaDa]

Awesome review thank you!!

[@tgarcia615]

Love the color Heller..

[@averagerunner_]

I love the doing OKAYYYYY it's now a line in my household!!!! ❤

[@doernerrr]

Running with the pros and elites = doing excellent. Running mid pack with age groupers = doing okay. Walking or DNF = doing not very well. Chose your greeting accordingly but probably most of us are just doing okay.

[@gregprevite8548]

Love seeing a review like this from a mere mortal like myself. Seeing reviews from near elites are are all good but sometimes their running style or paces are soo far fetched for average runners that the review may not even relate to you

[@davidkaplan5517]

I love these shoes. I ran Boston in them.

[@peteryun8379]

I tested Vaporfly3 3 times x 13.1 miles as I was training for a half marathon and as you mentioned, I also had a little discomfort in my right ankle (Only right). So, what I did for my half marathon race was that I used athlete tape for both ankles and I had NO ISSUES with 7:00/mi pace until I crossed the finish line. Rather it was so fun to run with Vaporfly3. Alphafly was always my racing shoes, but I can tell that Vaporfly 3 with athlete tape for ankles is my new racing shoe for even full marathon. Of course, people might not like why you have to keep using athlete tape, but it is shoes for race not for just daily training. Just my opinion from 3 weeks experience

[@Drew.Whitcomb]

Great review

[@RunLikeHeller]

Thanks Drew!

[@TimLSim]

It’ll be interesting to try them out as someone who runs with a more neutral gait and normal feet width once there’s more colorways available.

[@jungtao]

Ty for representing the middle pack!!!

[@kennethmonroe6939]

Thanks for the review. I have my 5K and 10K PB's in the Nike Vaporfly Next % 1. I had my Half Marathon PB in this shoe as well until recently when I got a new PB in the Saucony Endorphin Pro 3. I have a pair of the Next # 2's I bought at a Nike Clearance Store for $100, but I have not run in them yet...saving them for when I wear out the V1's.

[@averagerunner_]

Loooooove middle pack runners! C u next time!!!!

[@AlwaysTrain]

Killer quads dude

[@caskstrength7629]

You do what You want.👍🏼 Thanks for the review.👌🇳🇱

[@kg4zlb]

Great review thanks. Interesting point about the narrowness of the shoe. I ran a half yesterday in my Vaporfly 2’s (which I don’t normally wear) and have a lot of blisters between the toes this morning which I can only assume is down to the narrow factor. Won’t be wearing them again! 😮

[@MiracleWarriors]

Some performance running shoes seems very bad when we just put then on and we start walking. But after we start running on then , they start to feel real good and like a normal running shoes. Every time I put my old Mizuno Wave Rebellion and my newer Adidas Adizero SL I always felt something bothering my arches. But that feeling went away as soon I warmed up and the shoes.

[@MonteComeau]

Good review once again and excellent perspective for us middle of the packers. I am sure this is a fantastic shoe but I am starting to tire of the magic marker neon colourways to be honest. 🇨🇦

[@der_sascha]

I just love watching your videos because you are one of us "normal" runners with a passion for running shoes. (like me) Keep up the good work! i'm a little disappointed with the shoe because to me it feels exactly like the previous model. which is not bad.

[@RunLikeHeller]

Thank you for the kind words I really appreciate it!

[@navidnikraz2299]

7:36 - exact reflection from me too

[@manutd9899]

Thanks for the review Emily! I like the Sail/Cobalt/Orange colorway. I run too slow to own those. (plus the pocket book eliminate them from contention anyways)

[@pbnotj1]

With you on the cost , however there are super shoes now available at normal prices. I got the adios pro 3 super shoe in December for 125 dollars , deals can be had on older model shoes/discounted colors etc and they are worth trying if you’re into running even a little bit quicker over distances.

[@JRZSHR]

I have always been afraid to try the Vaporflys, I tend to over pronate and the high stack height makes them look like they may be a little bit wobbly. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the shoe's stability.

[@johndailey5582]

Great work. I do think many runners over buy with their shoes. True “racers” may benefit from the super shoes but for the majority of us, we don’t need them. Great review Emily.

[@jicalzad]

I don’t think anyone needs super shoes except for olympians and pro runners. But I think the super shoes can help pretty much any rec runner, from the front or middle pack runners, as long as they’re comfortable for one’s foot and within their respective budgets

[@megajeremy3000]

My first super shoe. And the only shoe I've felt real pain in afterwards, lol. My left heel kills me after running in them. Running my half in October and now I'm unsure what to get! Great video!

[@iibnf]

Watching your ankle turn in at around 8.40 was scary looking! I like the older vaporflies, but I think I'll wait and stick with my Sauconys for a while yet.

[@mikerobbins4138]

Great review ya one issue eith Nike narrow which my foot is not. I would go grey and white color if I had to choose. Question any change you will review new balence 990 v6 ? And hi ruby where ever you are

[@brendalogan3784]

I knew review 1,001 was going to be the best one!!!!

[@livegreatalways]

I had the same feeling when I tried out the VP3, the arches are very high like the Alphafly. And I couldn't get the sizing right either too long or short for my usual US10 or US10.5. In the end, I picked up another pair of the VP2 at 50% off. My legs felt much at home.😂. Tq for the review!!

[@mel00711]

Hi. Which shoe would you recommend for regular walking and as a casual wear . I’m currently using the ASICS Gel Kayano 27

[@i.p2088]

Which Supershoes do you like for long slower runs? Adidas Pro 3? Asics Metaspeed Sky plus? Puma?

[@drfunk1216]

I view the VF as like the super shoe iPhone as Nike will make small incremental changes now for each future version.

[@CTMoney7]

I have these and yeah you roll with these. Not sure if I will ever get my placement down.

[@ianlowe4126]

Lovely to see the blossom on the trees but still looks like you’re suffering chilly weather there like us here in the UK as this eternal winter continues ❄️ As for the shoe ? No thanks but another interesting honest well researched video as always thank you Emily. Ian 🇬🇧

[@davidfigg]

Hi Ian, our weather is unpredictable at the best if times. May I ask which shoes your currently using? Thanks

[@ianlowe4126]

@@davidfigg hi Charles. First run yesterday in new Saucony triumph 20 ( my 2nd pair ) still run in my triumph 19’s with 350 miles on them. Mix in some runs in Saucony endorphin speed 3 and Hoka Challenger 6 for the trails. Thanks for asking. You?

[@davidfigg]

@@ianlowe4126 invincible 2 for easy runs, vapourfly 2 5k/10k, vaperfly 3 for half/full marathons. However i have multiple other shoes- ASICS superblast, ASICS cumulus 25, Addis’s adios pro 3, endorphin pro 3 that I also mix runs with. Admittedly I don’t have any trial runs near me,so no trial run shoe currently. Thanks

[@ianlowe4126]

@@davidfigg Charles sounds like you’re way way faster than me lol. These days I’m more about comfort than speed! Enjoy your running.

[@davidfigg]

@@ianlowe4126 I try, and you enjoy your running

[@davidg9120]

I feel the same in these shoes like they feel comfortable but feel like the roll inwards.

[@Trailrunner1978]

I am a heavy slower runner trying for sub 4 marathon. Got 5 k 24:19 pb, 10 k 50:56, half 1:54:19. At my marathon pace 5:38-5:40/ km Vaporfly gets almost soggy and ineffective. Too soft. Same with Adios Pro 2. Gonna try something lower and more firm next time, maybe Takumi Sen 8. Not sold on the idea that high stack Supershoes work for me at my marathon pace.

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

Have you tried on the Saucony Endorphin Pro3? It’s the first one that’s worked for me on a marathon. I also love the Takumi Sen and probably could take that to marathon distance as well, but I’m just curious if you’ve checked out the Endo Pro3. Before that I was using the Speeds for marathons. Big difference this time.

[@alii.6022]

Was waiting for this review, thanks for uploading. This will help me decide between Vaporfly 3 and Endorphin Pro 3. Also, first comment 😜 Quick question, while the shoe looks great, does the cut out of foam on the side make it prone to accumulating dust in the long run that becomes difficult to clean? Just completed watching the video, makes my slight inclination towards the Pro 3 more stronger.

[@RunLikeHeller]

I honestly don’t clean my shoes much lol so I’m not really sure if that makes it hard to clean!

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

I never got along with the Next% or any other Nike shoes, for that matter. I just ran Boston in the Endo. Pro 3 and had an 18 min PR over last year there-probably mostly due to more intense training and much more carb-loading throughout the weekend, but the shoes really worked great and my legs and feet were happy even in the rain. Sure, they got and stayed wet but did not hang on to water and I had zero blisters. I didn’t like the earlier versions but v3 is a winner.

[@paullooper1090]

Was the Overpronation the same feeling with the Endorphin Speed 1?

[@RunLikeHeller]

Somewhat similar

[@NatasaM]

"Doing OK" works well! No need for hyperbole!

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

You took the literal words out of my mouth so I’m not putting the comment separately. There’s too much hyperbole these days on all media. Okay is good enough. No one is doing great or fantastic every day.

[@muhammadkhairul3621]

Nice review and like you the supershoe also is not my cup of tea 😅...nice tatoo btw 👍

[@christinaclementson]

I found them uncomfortable on a 15 mile run. Never again! I’ll use them for short races.

[@jungtao]

I don’t get why Nike won’t widen the midfoot. Many ppl complaine about this. Yes once u get running it’s not a huge deal however it does feel very odd.

[@marcuslockhart4610]

Maybe " hope you are doing awesome" or " hope you're doing muy bueno"...lol. I like the OG one as well, very use to it. Would be fun if you rotate different parts at the end.

[@RunLikeHeller]

That’s a good idea! Lol

[@RussRunning]

I'm curious to know - what is your 1st choice for marathon shoe ?

[@RunLikeHeller]

I ran in the nb Supercomp trainer at my last marathon and loved it. Not a super shoe by definition I guess but got the job done perfectly. The 2 super shoes I’d run a marathon in are probably Saucony endo pro 3 and new balance sc elite v3

[@trel]

"Doing OK" is fine. Any more than that and I feel too much pressure. ;)

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

LOL😂

[@DevRunner]

Nice that Nike lightened this one. How does it compare to the Endorphin Pro 3?

[@RunLikeHeller]

I like the endorphin pro 3 a lot better. More comfortable and still fast

[@DevRunner]

​@@RunLikeHellerHaha! That's all I need to know! Thanks Emily. I'll be wearing the Pro3 for my track marathon this coming Sunday!

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

I just ran an 18 min PR in Boston over last year in my 1st experience with a supershoe there (I’ve previously used the Speeds)-the Endo Pro3! Of course my harder training and much greater carb-loading throughout the weekend are the main reasons, but I have to say the shoes did amazingly well for me. I had no traction issues even though it was raining with lots of puddles. You can imagine the mess at the fuel stations. They got completely wet inside and out but did not collect (hold) water, which I heard was one of Kipchoge’s complaints about his Alphafly’s! And even with all that wetness I didn’t get a single blister, and my feet felt fine afterward.

[@davidh5429]

If it's the best and most lightweight shoe, it's acceptable for it to be expensive yet not durable. What I think is less acceptable is that they price the shoe this high by acting they spend billions on development. If anything the V1 Next% is superior in weight and responsiveness.

[@eleftheriazigiri8403]

Just saved me some hundreds of euros there!! Thanks Emily!!! Was planning to try them for my next marathon so I am back to zero now😂😂 question!! What is your no1 for non-elite marathoners at the moment then???!!! ❤

[@RunLikeHeller]

I think my favorite super shoe is the Saucony endorphin pro 3, and I also enjoy the new balance sc elite

[@eleftheriazigiri8403]

@@RunLikeHeller copy that 😉 thank you!!!!

[@jsonlee01]

You do you, Emily. If you adopt some new phrase that is not natural for you, it will come across as fake. I have noticed after you put the specs during the run footage, I tend to miss them because I’m watching how the shoe is hitting the ground and they zip by.

[@tkbuz]

I’m mainly here for the “Good Morning YouTuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu…BE!!!!”. So on that basis, I don’t really care how you hope we are doing 😂

[@suenummy]

It does look very unstable and clunky on you. Pink has grown on you already? 😅 Which neutral shoe is your favorite for 5-10 mile fast-casual runs?

[@RunLikeHeller]

I love the new balance Supercomp trainer for those kinds of runs!

[@cesarzoghbi4695]

The vaporfly is so unstable that neutral runners overpronate in the shoe!! Very elite! The zoom fly ia to heavy and hard for many people, so nike needs a better option for midpackers! That want light but sable ride and good durability!!!

[@chriscoop6852]

Nike’s seem way too narrow for me. I have wide, high volume feet and the only shoes that work for me are wide New Balances. Rebel lineup is my go to.

[@Lee-mx5li]

Great job on video!! After 33k miles of running I can't run anymore (wore out left knee) so now I walk and under Dr's suggestion I've had Invincible 1 & 2, both super cushion, for aggressive walking and my knee has absolutely no problems... 3 weeks ago it was time for new shoes and I went out and bought discounted "Vaper Fly 2" just because I'm an extremist and love technology and have been itching to try Vaper FLY, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm in love it makes aggressive walking so effortless and enjoyable.. HOWEVER I NEED TO ADD that I'm a overpronater also, but for some reason I don't have an issue, perhaps its because im walking vs running.. Nevertheless love your videos and Rubster, who didn't do a cameo appearance, much less a photo bomb 😂.. GREAT JOB.. THANK YOU!

[@dheitz5830]

Nike doesn't just "own the supershoe market", they make a lot of pretty good normal running shoes as well. Which is unfortunate since they have dialed back their support of running shoe stores. I love Pegasus and React Infinities, but as far as I'm aware, I'm unable to buy them from the small local businesses that support my local running community. Thank god for Saucony.

[@markoljustina]

imo Nike don’t have any good shoes except Vaporfly

[@cesarzoghbi4695]

Adidas and Saucony have better options more stable, durable and equal in weght and speed!

[@cesarzoghbi4695]

This shoe is not good for overpronators and slower runners! And the durability is the worst.

[@knightryder02]

Exactly. There are alternative options. It is not worth the risk of injury.

[@kerry_runs]

250 bucks for a hundred mile shoe…steep

[@cesarzoghbi4695]

I think that this iteration is very elite, is fast, lightweight and looks amazing but is a waste of money for midpackers! High price, unstable and bad durability!

[@markoljustina]

But fastest, best ride and best comfort My current race shoe are AP3, ride is good but but they are on firm side, upper, tongue, laces are terrible (but under feet they feel better than EP3); Vaporfly 1 is best race shoe I have; i am looking to buy this one

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

This is such an individual thing. I had a terrible experience with the Next% and returned them. I didn’t find any CP supershoes that felt fast (too many were too mushy and made me feel like I was working harder) until the Endo Pro3. For me they were perfect and helped me (along with other factors of course) PR last Monday by 18 min over last year. For reference, I’m very petite and light. But we’re all different; we just have to try them and see what works best with our biomechanics.

[@markoljustina]

@@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 i agree 🙂

[@longshlongsilver293]

Only really work for pro athletes.