First Look - DWARF REWORK - New Mechanics - Thrones of Decay - Update 5.0 - Total War Warhammer 3

Update 5.0 brings in in a rather cool rework for the Dwarfs! Updating their tech tree and adding in some new playable mechanics for ALL the factions! Let's discuss!
First Look - DWARF REWORK - New Mechanics - Thrones of Decay - Update 5.0 - Total War Warhammer 3
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[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

Video 1 of 5 today lots today! Lots to talk about :) Videos will be dropping every hour!Also I'm live over at twi as thegreatbookofgrudges there's a link in the description :) pop by an say hi!

[@TheWarpVault]

5 VIDEOS?! Praise the Emperor what have we done to be so blessed

[@Redcoat98]

were you meant to post this a week early?

[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

The embargo for FLC and reworks was today i mever leak unlike others :) ​@@Redcoat98

[@Redcoat98]

@@TheGreatBookofGrudges was making sure it wasnt a cock up on the release order of your vids, dont want a good creator getting in trouble.

[@heinrichkarl7825]

Would be interesting to know how it effect there end game crisis, or when diplomacy is enabled with the confederations

[@Ulthuanelf]

lmao the Karak Zorn grudge at 7:55. "This hold was destroyed by invasions from lizardmen, undead and daemons. We must settle this grudge by wiping them out! Also Teclis is in the area so kill him too"

[@christophersmith8848]

"Just take an axe to the ankles of anyone without a beard, it'll work out"

[@bludgerabled]

"High king, this is not the time for short sightedness."

[@Temudhun]

When in doubt, grudge the entire continent.

[@andmos1001]

@@bludgerabled”SHORT?!”

[@jerelly9469]

To be fair he called them short, dwarves have started wars over less

[@tobiashagstrom4168]

Dwarf rework, such a silly notion. I say, if it was good enough for the ancestor gods, back in the days of TWWh1, it's good enough for us!

[@panzerschliffehohenzollern4863]

Okay grandpa. It's time for you to go to bed. - Beardlings.

[@axaviatorgames2250]

After much deliberation, the Engineers Guild as concluded that this will prove to be useful for the Karaz-Ankor, and has garnered support from not just Lord Belegar Ironhammer, Ungrim Ironfist, but the High King Thorgrim Grudgebearer himself.

[@ratatoskr9366]

@@panzerschliffehohenzollern4863 respect yer elders!

[@robosoldier11]

@@panzerschliffehohenzollern4863 *grumbles under covers*

[@samhobbs9116]

*Narrator voice* It was in fact not good enough for us ancestors who played game 1 and has taken almost 10 years to be made anything worthwhile.

[@nerdyvids1]

Wow, those are some awesome changes. Also, that capstone personal skill for Throgrim is NUTS. Giving your whole army unbreakable and perfect vigor when going up against someone that's really pissed you off is so perfectly on-brand for the Dawi.

[@cinder8926]

Can't wait to lose friends by fighting them with an army of unbreakable perfect vigour ironbreakers flame cannons and thunderbarges

[@lucnederhof2107]

I saw that and laughed it's such a fun, strong and immersive buff. Perfect for him

[@edouardlorge4059]

it will be hell to face in campaign

[@ekothesilent9456]

@@edouardlorge4059imagine fighting an unbreakable perfect vigour army in a siege battle…. That would be incredibly painful

[@landeler8888]

10:03 I can just imagine the Dwafs felling the Oak of Ages just to make some toothpicks

[@nathanstruble2177]

The only ASMR I listen to, is the Oak of Ages burning

[@lordbertox4056]

1 toothpick

[@TheMaxCloud]

"Burn It"​@@nathanstruble2177

[@DMAN_GAMR]

The Toothpick of Ages

[@CommanderBohn]

@@DMAN_GAMR And it's master-crafted by Kragg and Thorek.

[@grinm1899]

Oh sweet Grungni, they actually added the underway connection between the Karaks

[@leedsin3043]

If this rework ain’t good, it’s going straight to the BOOK!

[@leeroyjenkins6103]

It is going in the book regardless for taking this long!

[@Kyle496]

​@@leeroyjenkins6103 I forgive delays when content is good, I'll always say getting good content is more important than timely content.

[@kelpygp2297]

@@Kyle496 This was way better than I expected, Dwarfs were so stale that any change was a game changer for me but these are all well made changes IMO

[@poyloos4834]

@@Kyle496i like that, it’s a very dwarf-like thought process

[@draconomega]

Holy molly. *Warhammer* *is* *back* *on* *the* *menu* *boys*

[@Johannes_Piotr]

Potatoes

[@frankpulmanns6685]

Oak of Ages lumber camp is just *chef's kiss*

[@marbles863]

Elves currently in shambles.

[@kommentier9884]

Have you guys never taken over Athel Loren before? You always got lumber from the Oak of Ages

[@scarecentral1565]

@@kommentier9884 i love playing the wood elves .... PLAYING I avoid dem crazy bastards at all cost so never took athaloren

[@TheChristOOv]

I thought dwarfs were being showcased next week and empire was this week! The ancestors have blessed our holds this day!

[@krispinidan1478]

Nvm flc as far as i know you can(Still wellcome it).

[@sethanpayne6324]

He illlegally showed it

[@syd8308]

Anything part of the flc update (so the reworks,epidemus, gold wizard) was lifted for the embargo

[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

​@@krispinidan1478this is the update not the DLC Dwarfs lol

[@krispinidan1478]

@@TheGreatBookofGrudges then thanks

[@whytho1637]

This rework... is fucking awesome. That's one grudge striked from the great book of grudges and so many more to come.

[@ComfortingColourlessLight]

Please be good please be good please be good!

[@CBRN-115]

Hope is the first step towards disappointment. And chaos

[@MRFlackAttack1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKOlao2Vgaedo7ssi=tUpQknKz9H7zS3XB

[@draconomega]

They fucking cooked, I am so happy :"D

[@Kasparth]

"Starts to open book...."

[@Septemberl4d]

@@draconomegaJust shows what they can do when they FOCUS ON THE GAME PEOPLE LIKE NOT SOME STUPID PHAROES CRAP. As much as i love the older historical versions of the game they just don't put enough effort into them anymore to actually make a stand alone game which doesn't involve large parts of the world all at once. Either they need to go all out on a historical time period or just try make some cash with things that actually have a playerbase like the warhammer version of the game.

[@ComfortingColourlessLight]

YES finally getting growth bonuses for certain actions! Also loved the confederating of dead legendary lords.

[@Septemberl4d]

Yeah certainly with how aggressive some AI is to wipe out some of the dwarf races i really wanted to combo. Like the one in the dark elf area rarely if ever do i get to confed him but now i will be able to!

[@user-xh1ml9ss8w]

TBH huge dwarven tech tree was one of my favorites. It was very in line with the race.

[@danielgloyd4529]

Good, I am glad I am not the only one. Sure, it took over 100 turns even with eventually getting over 1500% research rate. It felt fitting for one of the most technologically advanced factions to have a huge research tree.

[@Anonymous-rn7fp]

It was my favorite too

[@jakobschoning7355]

Same... Though I am not actually sure how much smaller it is now...

[@user-xh1ml9ss8w]

@@jakobschoning7355 I am not saying that new tech tree is bad now or worse than before. I need to try it out first, I am just saying that the previous tree was amazing and felt exactly how the dwarf tech tree should. In my opinion, it was unnecessary change and I hope that the new tree is at least as good as the old one. I am not judjing it before trying it out myself)))

[@Zeldrake]

Yeah. I can see why it got changed - as he says, the huge amount of slog is a turn-off - but it was also completely fitting, exceedingly methodical, and incredibly detailed xD

[@0815UserII]

The main thing I would still like to see for Dwarfs would be a variant of the undercity mechanic beneath their own settlements in mountain regions, representing the restoration and expansion of the lower deeps. Might be interesting to tie that in with the underway system, maybe a certain level of expansion of the lower deeps could make minor settlements available there too. I think a general rework of undercities, cults, pirate coves ... would be neat, mainly to give them a garrison that has to be fought (in fitting maps) to remove them and make detecting them a bit more active unless they grow really big. Such a garrison would be a neat way to spice up sieges as well, if they could act as reinforcements that show up within the city (maybe even as an option when a third party attacks, with the option to pick which side to support as an ally). Also, the Oak of Ages might actually be one of the few trees a dwarf might deem sufficient to use as building material. Or maybe for decent ale barrels? So the Wutelgi should be proud of the one halfway decent thing they managed to identify.

[@brokentwilight3136]

An underground reinforcements system (for all factions) would make for interesting use of the undercity/cult detection building chain, aswell help to fill the garrison of the huge city maps with more than just 20 units. It could also be used for the outpost garrison, as I hate it when my higher tier garrison units are replaced with useless spearmen

[@Zeldrake]

I do wish removing undercities wasn't just a matter of "click button and problem goes away" my biggest criticism of TW mechanics is too many of them boil down to "click button to get stuff"

[@tonisauna-aho3899]

Finally stunties are worth smashin' again!

[@volrosku.6075]

your names already in the book urk thing.

[@jamieeddolls5605]

we'z gonna krump 'em

[@camowyvern3836]

You dare pose as a dawi!!! That's going in the book RAKI!!!!!

[@CommanderBohn]

We be grudging hard now. The throngs are truly mustard.

[@BlinkBoyBrad]

So happy TW is buzzing again ive missed it

[@ratatoskr9366]

Ive been playing with the same tech tree for almost ten years! Im a dawi, we have aversion to change!

[@user-rr8iy6mv5f]

The most funny thing about the dwarf rework is the similarities between their new mechanics an the waaagh mechaincs of the greenskins (aaand I'm goin in the Book with this one).

[@toomanyinterests2271]

You just earned yourself a chapter worth

[@carsongraham608]

I had tall expectations for this rework and it seems they did not fall short.

[@Soggy2002]

SHORT?!

[@leeroyjenkins6103]

Thunderers and Irondrakes at tier 2 is so nice. I love warriors and quarrelers but being able to get some flavor in early armies is huge.

[@Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs.]

Ooooh, Silver Pinnacle has a Landmark building now..? Hopefully this means Legend was wrong about Neferata being cancelled.

[@BigSmugRat]

Vampires are due for a dlc. No way they cancel one of the most popular and important characters they have.

[@raynightshade8317]

Unless their is nothing coming for Vampires I'm sure we will get her she is the most requested vampire

[@brandonransley7091]

The next DLC features Vampire Counts, there is literally only 2 real choices for them to add as a Legendary Lord, Neferata or Ushoran. And I think without a doubt it'll be Nef as she is way, WAY more popular than Ushoran.

[@bergerjerome9832]

​@@brandonransley7091I Hope you're right but WE got gorst and Heinrich. I remember in my Time There was a legendary necrarque on a dracolich in the army Book too

[@mp5284]

I hope that vamps are a separate warriors of chaos style dlc. Always been my favorite faction and I really would like all the bloodlines properly represented

[@emiliovega6623]

Damn, Dwarfs put a lot of trees now in the campaign map, looks like Wood Elves..

[@kapitankapital6580]

Seems interesting. Slightly disappointed they didn't remove the cap on generic runes, that would have been quite an easy change that would significantly improve the faction imo.

[@Vegita5100]

Right? The orcs can upgrade their units more than the dwarves can right now

[@user-fu2tx9hp4r]

Isnt cap only in imbalance High Runes, like aoe permanent damage?

[@Naftoor]

@@user-fu2tx9hp4rEven that’s a non issue. Make it cost 1000 oath gold, and it’ll be too expensive to spam until you’ve essentially won the game already, similar to tomb kings infinite army spam.

[@eviem5658]

Never been a fan of the Dwarfs, but this stuff definitely interests me

[@dotmadhack]

I kinda liked the old crazy ass research tree. Felt fun exploring it.

[@BlizzardAcolyte]

The enthusiasm in your voice was felt throughout-I almost hope you don’t sound as joyful on the other four videos in response to the other reworks & changes, and stay up late for many nights in a row just playing more Dawi, until you beGRUDGingly have to put your journalistic cap back on and properly cover the DLC

[@himdailungpamei983]

5 videos out in one day !! You sir are a legend and a great pillar of this community ❤

[@raguna4231]

The fact that they didn't touch oathgold in some way gives me hopium for another dwarf DLC (likely the final one for dwarfs) that will touch upon it and will focus on the engineer's guild

[@Soggy2002]

They did. It basically just costs more to make stuff.

[@rubenfeijoolopez8572]

Honestly, I quite liked the old tech tree, I love big tech trees with quick to research tecnologies and it offered quite decent bonuses.

[@juggernautguy7442]

a version of this grudge system being used for bounties on various characters or settlements for the ogres to target with their contracts would be cool. i like the visual indicator of real hellraisers like queek raking up a big enough toll to motivate you to wallop them

[@Jens_Heika]

10:16 Why Doesn't the Lumber Camp settlement give a massive, like -120 to relations with wood elves, like taking Zar Naggarund and defiling their temple does? TGBoG you have to tell the devs right away!

[@S3Cs4uN8]

It's probably due to it being a bit redundant. By the time you've taken the Oak of Ages there likely won't be any Wood Elves left to be angry at you for it.

[@jomix7]

If you are controlling the Oak of Ages as the Dwarfs, every Wood Elf faction undoubtedly hates you already so seems a little pointless 😂

[@onkelronkel4677]

the old tech tree feels right imo, you have a lot small improvements but researching one tech doesnt take around 5 - 6 turns, instead it takes half the time. and the effect is dwarfes are a industrious always improving folk

[@agodelianshock9422]

They are absolutely delivering on Thrones of Decay. Its good to see after the Shadows of Change debacle, layoffs, Hyenas, and all the delays. I was worried CA lost their magic for good.

[@elite6657]

This is them trying to find some kind of cash lol BUT ITS GOOD. SEGA finally brought the hammer down

[@ekothesilent9456]

As an UI and art dev who got laid off over hyenas and then got absolutely lambasted in an interview with blizzard I almost regret my entire career path…

[@gsauwce5488]

Holy shit we can teleport!

[@draegoth]

Nice pic bro

[@MrNiveko7]

I always loved the theme the Dwarven Slayers had and mostly played The Slayer King whenever I played Dwarves. Getting more Slayer units, being incentivised to push more, the teleport system, better technology... the fact you can revive and confederate the other dwarven factions. Man. A dream come true. Perhaps this will cure me from my chorf addiction

[@Anonymous-rn7fp]

I liked the old tech tree. It was my favorite but it needed some fixing. I'm looking forward to seeing the new one. I love the new growth options through the various changes. It took forever to get tier 5 buildings!

[@TransDelek]

I am so excited for all of this content, but especially the Underway mechanic! I think eventually most, if not all, factions, should have access to some mechanic that they can use to move across the map quickly and find new lands to conquer and enemies to squash.

[@CreepingTerror]

Well that all looks super fun! Definitely going to pick this up!

[@aiwendil3771]

Amazing to see so many nice things after the Shadows of Change stuff. Makes me really excited to play the game more again :D

[@danielgloyd4529]

All I need to know to make this perfect. Does the Slayer Hero unit have replenish troops as an army ability?

[@goatforcemcgoat8233]

I notice on the confederation screen there is space for 1 more character.... Maybe a certain brewer whose heraldry was in the trailer who might be coming as a promotion with the 500th issue of White Dwarf?

[@calebbarnhouse496]

Where was his heraldry in the trailer?

[@goatforcemcgoat8233]

@@calebbarnhouse496 I think on the thunderbarge that first appears. Also it has been noted there is a hooded figure drinking inside the Thunderbarge who doesn't match current assets in game. I may have overstated the case a little in my post but there are definite hints

[@calebbarnhouse496]

@@goatforcemcgoat8233 I think the hooded guy on a thunderbarge could probably just have been an unused ranger asset, but if they do add bugman and we see that they put him in sneakily that'd be hilarious

[@Fewster96]

Malakai wasn't on that screen as GBoG had the DLC turned off for this vid, that space is likely for him

[@goatforcemcgoat8233]

@@Fewster96 Ah sad times, well we will see what comes. Still think with the 500th edition of White Dwarf (and Skulls and all that) Bugman has a shot and think the trailer might be hinting at him a little

[@thatguywhomaybedead]

This Dwarf update is going to bring me back to play warhammer 3 and them again.

[@maxdax530]

6:43 "the chaos dwarfs" That goes in the book! Other than that, thank you for the video! It's amazing

[@morte2504]

Wrath and vengeance, grudge and strife! We march into the afterlife!

[@XarkoCZ]

Dwarfs were my first playthrough back in TWW1. They'll always have a special place for me. Can't wait for this update.

[@HansAlRachid]

Good lord, that tech tree rework alone would be reason for hype far as I'm concerned - finally that giant mess is gone! All of these additions and changes (especially having an actual Underway system!) sound super cool! Stuff like this - actual reworks on the level of sophistication that the third part of a trilogy should afford - is exactly what I want to see more of. New units and lords and whatnot are fantastic as well of course, but this is the stuff that actually shapes the campaign experience to me.

[@Schokraen]

DIGGY DIGGY HOLE!!! :O

[@Serpentaxuk]

Every day the dwarves arise, the dwarves arise Heading for the mountain mine, the mountain mine No more time to waste, we're on the way When a mountain full of gold awaits And we mine, mine, mine 'til the morning light

[@zefyrisd69]

I think that after all these years, this is indeed finally truly the age of reckoning. Also holy snap with all of that + all the new slayer units in the DLC does Ungrim looks reaaally tempting as a campaign post DLC drop.

[@Gorg-oe1hu]

Now just need a Norsca, Boris Ursus, and Orge Rework and were golden.

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

lumber camp at the oak of ages sounds like a warcrime, I love it

[@Wafelkowiec]

Looks nice, though how good it is will come out after a few campaigns. The only thing I'd love to change is to change Legendary Grudge rewards from one time, lump sum of points into permanent starting value for each new age. So when you finish a few grudges, you no longer start in the negative.

[@lubomirac9287]

Finally something that gives you the feeling that you are restoring the Karaz Ankor.

[@TheRotbringer]

I’ll definitely be playing the Dwarfs again. Last time I did a campaign was when they released Thorek

[@user-dx1lx6vf4n]

I’ve actually been able to use kislev DLC units in my Tzarina playthrough thanks to the fact that while I don’t own the DLC, it doesn’t stop the Kislev AI factions I confederate from making them.

[@buttjunkie7956]

This actually looks really solid. The grudge system alone looks like it builds narratives and gives goals for the player based on what is happening in the world, rather than just min-maxing expansion as you would with any other race. Not sure how I feel about expanding aggressively though, dwarves should play taller than others.

[@tomhall0212]

Awesome stuff! Just wished that there would be an update to the Karaks having like no attrition and a two layered siege or something but alas it was not meant to be

[@luyiwang5030]

Imagine if this dlc fell short

[@htohewhoamtheonlyone]

Well, i do like most of the changes, like teleport and the grudges, but giving dwarves basically a sort of hidden waghh mechanice and making them super aggressive feels somehow wrong, i know they can be, of course, but i always liked the slow and steady marching, grinding and pushing with them, and a more defensive and laid back playstyle.

[@yochitoranaga]

I think it's time for me to start settling some grudges :D gotta say, can't wait to try those thunderbarges

[@fakeaintreal]

sad that its not a grudge in itself if you go for the "short" victory

[@duckheadbob]

Did yall mess up on coordinating with CA? They released the empire rework blog today but youre talking about dwarfs

[@MeneerSoepgroente]

See the pinned comment, this is video 1 out of 5 being uploaded today. So I imagine Empire rework is one of them!

[@draconomega]

He is going to make videos about all the reworks today, including dwarfs, empire amd nurgle.

[@IlBuonDiavolo131313]

THANL YOU, Creative Assembly!

[@dannyzninjawriter9653]

Kind of glad the grudge Settlers are a thing; kind of suggested something similar as purchase from oathgold, but this is better...save for the lack of thunderers, cannons, and shielded infantry. But that just me.

[@harlzAU]

Awesome to see the Dawi getting some love!

[@langa77777]

I miss slayer stacks with ungrim and his “journeys end” passive. It made aggressive melee play very viable and was so damn fun.

[@NightWhisper8462]

I honestly hope that being able to recruit other legendary lords if they have been wiped out starts to get implemented to all factions, I mean for Nurgle they could make it so that they spend infections to gain Papa Nurgles blessing to either force Confederate or to return the lord back to life under your control.

[@Bertoleyus]

So, having not looked in detail at the new tech tree, I say I really liked the old one. It was small, incremental buffs that didn’t take long to research, but there were LOTS of them. It was very in-flavor for the dawi, who despise big changes. I LIKED that it was a massive tech tree. It said they had the most technological room to grow. The later techs took really long, but by that point you have a few engineer bldgs and followers to speed up your research speed, so it would even out. Now, at a glance, it looks like they only took the tree and split it into two tabs, which it effectively was before, with your eco on the top half and military on the bottom. I just hope they didn’t reduce the number of techs to research by much, or made it too strong.

[@maestromarat6195]

Glad they added the proper underway nexus that people have been theorizing. I really hope that by the end of Warhammer 3's life cycle all the factions have some way to teleport around. With how massive the map is sea lanes just aren't enough in my opinion

[@Tristan-2016]

This looks so nice. The faction always felt a bit off beside the others in WH3 and this feels like it will make them much more interesting both to play and to fight.

[@YourFriendTnt]

I love it, dwarves are my favorite faction, and im ecstatic to see them get some love. I just wish the rune/crafting system would get a nice rework there it feels clunky and weird to me and the potential is there.

[@peterrehm490]

This is the version of the Dwarfs I have hoping to play since WH1 released what feels like ages ago now. This is a solid dub.

[@inductivegrunt94]

Ancestor Gods bless us! The Dawi be cooking now! This rework was sorely needed and is more than welcome!

[@Illevium]

You get a Like from me just for that "Roll Credits" joke

[@Zeldrake]

Confederation without needing +1000 relations and 300000 gold is an absolute godsend and the Underway feels like it's stolen from the Wood Elves, but in a good way (complete with building landmark buildings that summon attacks)

[@krispinidan1478]

man the tec tree look amazing

[@pascaldifolco4611]

Very cool, I like Dwarves ! Gave up TWW3 for a few months since the last DLC debacle, may go back to it with this new DLC !

[@RachsuchtAble]

Hello Nathan, just here to say that Legend sends me through his Video :)

[@PainHarbinger]

Good to see a lot of the dwarf QoL improvements from SFO Grimhammer being implemented into the faction proper.

[@50043211]

Lets wait and see, especially the changes to the tech tree. I, personally, never had any issues with the large tech tree of the Dwarfs and Iam quite annoyed when other factions have much smaller ones which limits your options and are finished by turn 80, while the game tells you at the end of every turn that Iam not researching anything. Strange oversight by CA. Anyway ...

[@Mirkomir_Blobszczonowicz]

Well excluding choice of LL and units , the Dwarf changes look quite cool. I Am little sad and wish that CA would implement underway as unlockable "undercities/coves", but there is a mod for this and I wish it will be still there. Still I wish for one more rework - from engineer perspective with runecrafting equipment and modyfying unit's arnaments, the official Underway would be cool too.

[@julianfonseca9843]

Really excited about all the changes and additions to dwarfs. I'm just sad that dwarf lords did not get oathstones and shieldbearers as mount options, maybe as a free LC later on

[@magicalchipmunk1137]

I'm just excited for the grudgeraker thunderers. If they are even close to the blunderbusses from chorfs I'll be happy

[@DetectiveCheese]

I'm a bit worried about the grudge requirement. With it seemingly about doubling it every 10 turns, will that reach a cap? Will it maybe decrease when you fall behind in one set? Or will it just keep increasing until you're eventually put into punishment mode constantly? As for the rest I like it a lot, even if I had personal preferences like an engineer lord etc, but that's not that big of a deal.

[@tommower2383]

I'm super excited for these changes. Dwarves are one of my favorite factions.

[@farhadnikzad1514]

12:20 finally a mechanic I've been looking forward to for ages. I hope that this will soon come for all races. Edit: this 'recruit defeated legendary lords' should be for legendary heroes too.

[@markf9138]

Ooh the grudge book looks actually readable now.

[@leorodrigues7368]

Damn this update looks gorgeous! So many good chances! This is the time for a reckoning! However, there is still 1 thing that I wished they changed, which is giving Thorgrim armor piercing damage, he is using an axe of grimnir for ffs XD, and they gave it to Karl Franz on foot

[@bmilczarek]

First time i have hype for dlc in a game :O cool !

[@alexcebollero]

Took some mechanics from SFO, but glad my Dawi are getting the attention they deserve!

[@DaveeBoy]

Nice. Can’t wait to play some dawi

[@jacobmccarty8070]

Did they do any changes with how the banner runes work? Or are we still stuck with limits of one rune banner type per army?

[@cleebe6905]

Commenting for the algorithm. Great work.

[@Quizzicall]

I'm excited for the Sartosa update so that she can have a 4 layer firing line. Slayer Pirates as hybrid front, free company shoot over slayer heads, Maneater ogres shoot over free company heads and artilery shoot over ogres.

[@Banditks]

I was actually hoping for more engineer focused DLC. Now there is some Engineer stuff here, the super weapon, and slayer/engineer tech and characters. But its mostly just focused around slayers which have never really struck my fancy. They never seemed to have the punch in battle like their reputation eludes to. I know there is very little left in the lore for engineer tech to use in the game but modders have come up with some great and frankly thematic stuff Dawi Thunder is a great example. The Snipers, Crank gunners, sappers, breaker cannons, and mortars are really thematic.

[@8heimdall8]

cant wait ! it seeme really really good and well done !

[@Azkaellon9001]

I'm a lifelong(beard) dorf player, it's the race I have the most time in and it's the only one I truly enjoy every time I play it. I like some of these changes, but in true longbeard fashion I do have a few grumbles. I'll start with what I love: The underway seems AMAZING- absolutely essential change there The old(new?) grudge system sucked, I preferred the original. I'm glad it's been reworked to be... not what we currently have. I absolutely adore the fact you can force confederations and resurrect dead LLs, LL collection is one of my favourite parts of the game. I love that the new grudge system seems to feel more rewarding with it becoming a currency as well as the... other thing going on Things I strongly dislike and shall be striking IN THE BOOK: I absolutely LOVED our research tree. I saw it as a huge bonus that it was massive, you could be playing a massive long-term campaign and the research tree lasts for a huge portion of it, rather than running out and entirely taking away such a major mechanic too early. I really REALLY hope it's not been reduced in size or effects. From what I can see in this video, it doesn't actually look like anything's changed, I think they've just split the two branches into three? but if they've hurt it in any way I will be very unhappy. I'm not sure I like the new grudge system. The old one sucked, but this doesn't look very dwarfy with it putting such a stress on keeping up a rampage like you're cosplaying a Khorne faction when the Dorfs are pretty well known for taking their time and being methodical. It feels like active punishment for choosing to go slow? I would like something that rewards you for a wide variety of playstyles, including a fluffy one rather than pressuring you to cheese or overextend, although the underway should negate the worst of this I imagine. Considering I'm a dorf, I imagine many would expect more complaints, but this is surprisingly above usual CA quality by the seems of things. I'm also a fan of the pseudo-LLs, however I should mention I'm concerned I didn't see Kazador anywhere, he's one of my favourite characters and an awesome pseudo-LL. I wish they'd made him one of the special ones in the grudges and gave him a special skill tree. I still hope we see him get some love when the DLC drops. I would honestly love him to be made a proper LL with little to no effort put in, no special faction mechanics or anything just a generic FLC dude that takes them like 30 minutes of work to make an option. At the very least they could make him one of the force-confederation factions or make him immortal!

[@Azkaellon9001]

As a footnote- no changes to Belegar's Eight Peaks mechanic? that... feels like a bit of an oversight if it's true

[@nolan_8]

Cool beans, looking forward to this! I'm curious how they are going to price this, will each DLC have a seperate price and then a discount to buy all 3? Or our two free and one for sale?

[@Antidragon-nl7by]

It was super frustrating that you never turned to the 5th page of the legendary grudges; I was eager to see yhrm all!