First Look: Octopus Energy Cosy 6 Heat Pump Install!

[@NicolasRaimo]

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[@gurjdulai2381]

Ta. Used your code today ahead of a Friday survey, fingers crossed!

[@steveturner2172]

Don’t like the idea that the heat pump and and copper pipes are situated outside your property boundary. Basically on the street

[@healeydave]

I know, I was thinking the same, not only is it susceptible to kids wanting to stick things into the fan but it looks awful too, I bet the neighbours aren't too happy.

[@thingyee1118]

My immediate first thought!

[@organichuman]

Only started to watch video but I think this may be the exception and not the norm. I noticed within seconds that his boundary appears to be beyond the curve or cut off corner of the wall. Maybe I am wrong...I need to watch the video.

[@njipods]

Someone will try to use it to salt the road in winter....

[@MagicianMan]

Agreed, plus the loss of efficiency from those pipe runs!!! Wonder how long before someone either nicks the heat pump or the copper pipes??

[@onlyme972]

The local dogs will have something to piss against

[@davedevonlad7402]

And the local kids will jam it up with sticks and twigs or put that gravel in it.

[@a12345ok]

The location and length of external pipework is ridiculous

[@garymendham]

Insane location for outdoor unit and piping. Local vandals must think Christmas has come early

[@steve11211]

I thought that, created a really quick and easy step up to look into the garden and pop over the wall.. Looks hideous, also lets hope there are no problems as Octopus repairs are basically non existant.

[@thingyee1118]

Yep and yep

[@bryanhindle8307]

@@steve11211 I had a small leak near the frost protection valve. A engineer was at my door with in 3 hours of making a call.

[@steve11211]

@@bryanhindle8307 You got lucky, there are all sorts of issues with car chargers with Octopus energy fobbing off customer to manufacturer.

[@Lewis_Standing]

Apparently it's been stolen

[@MrButuz]

Why on earth have you mounted that out in the street? Totally barmy. I recon it'll be gone in a month

[@James-zu1ij]

There is an elephant in the room.!!!

[@plinble]

Tagged?

[@hypnoboutique]

Also the insane length of the flow and return mean there will be heaps of heat lost in transit.

[@lopon12]

​@hypnoboutique this was what I thought straight away 😅

[@jensweetbaby]

😂😂😂😂

[@jimmyc38]

Thanks for posting this video, I know what not to do when I get my Octopus install.

[@glideman]

Can’t believe where they put that, how long before someone puts something through the vents?

[@Pepperthestaffie]

Also interested to know why it's virtually out on the street. Realise I wouldn't be saying that if it was your EV chargepoint, but still surprised by the location.

[@alanbrad3727]

Wait for someone to complain when it does a defrost cycle 😂

[@MrKarlPrince]

@@Pepperthestaffie Building Regulations combined with a getting decent airflow give limited options.

[@adamwoodall9506]

What a shame for the aesthetics of the street.

[@neilgilroy1629]

See his previous videos for location reasoning

[@Steven-bh3uk]

The Cosy6 looks like the local binmen might try to empty it on collection day.

[@mathewnewton3499]

I am generally a big fan of new technology but my word, I can't believe this is considered progress. Going from that little boiler hidden away in a kitchen cupboard to a washing machine size unit on your drive with all that hideous looking trunking across the wall and up your house! Forgive me for this, as I appreciate this is your home. If this represents the future I've got to say I am really disappointed. Incidentally, what's the noise level like when the unit is on?

[@intruder313]

They have 500% efficiency but I got quoted £10k and this video shows me I have no room at all for the tank etc

[@rajivvashm6046]

regarding new tech: i've heard that fusion energy will always be 40 years away.

[@chrisbowler8200]

That pipe run is ridiculous you must lose so much heat by time it gets to the Tank.

[@davedevonlad7402]

Exactly my thoughts as well, it's way too long to be efficient.

[@TheGraemeEvans]

A heat pump is a heat pump, box ticked. Very little concern for efficiency in this install.

[@alandupre951]

I understand constraints on location, just wondered if you had considered the impact on potential sale of your property? There is no way I'd buy a property where the primary heat source for the whole home was totally exposed to risk of vandalism, impact or other issues. If I was buying it would be a condition it was relocated to a secure location within the property. A mortgage / property surveyor may even restrict funds till it was moved.

[@NicolasRaimo]

@@alandupre951 expect locations like this to be far more in the coming months and years as propane units need to be further away from windows and doors. There’s plenty of air con units on display just like this all over the country

[@85parrot]

@@NicolasRaimo just mount it on a wall! oh yeah you can't do that with the octopus one... another thing they didnt think of. Octopus are usually great but this unit and the way they're being installed (like this insanely inefficient one) is not helping the industry grow.

[@techgeek6142]

I’m one of those property surveyors and I won’t hold any funds until it’s moved. 100% guaranteed!

[@The_Voice_of_Reason_is_here]

You are brave locating this where the public can gain access. Can you give us an update in 6 months time of any stolen pipes or vandalism please? Good luck 😂😂😂😂

[@plinble]

Police searching for items? That'll be South London.

[@lenrichardson7349]

@@plinble Good news though I've just got a heat pump real cheap of a chap called Del.

[@davebax6819]

Are you telling me the supply and return pipeline runs along the length of that wall and then all the way to the top of the house into the loft space? Seriously? Then miles of pipes in the loft space as well? With a hot water tank in the bloody loft as well….🤔blimey I’m not sure Octopus energy get this ?

[@everuss]

perfect spot, the local yobs will have a nice cosy bench to hang out on; also I'm sure will make the perfect football target for the younger one's or even cricket stumps. It nice to see consideration being given to the younger generation. well done.

[@aylorpaul39]

You never know Banksey might pay him a visit , then could auctions it off and be able to afford a better sysyem

[@gee3883]

I live in London so I placed my pump in Glasgow, just need to run the pipework.

[@Steven-bh3uk]

lol

[@andrewrossy]

😂

[@dave597]

I can only assume it's noisy based on the positioning as far away from the property as possible, along with the inefficiencies from miles of pipework running externally, and it being open to vandalism and being a general eyesore, it's likely devalued the property and neighbouring properties.

[@stephenpearce3880]

Designed by the Telly Tubbies. A visual eye sore to the area A magnet to vandals who only have to ram a stick in the fan to cripple your home heating. The lowest efficiency gas Air Source heatpumps make sense in principal. But seriously this install won't ever be coming to my house and id never buy a house with it.

[@davidmansfield5602]

I like the way you have put it outside your property so all your neighbours get all the noise. Good thinking 🤔

[@cbattman]

Why's it not inside Your garden 🏡?? That's literally mental

[@davefish8107]

Don’t want to look at it because it’s ugly and probably because of the noise as well

[@85parrot]

that placement is insane. you'll have people shoving their cigarette butts in it and dogs weeing on it. i've got a vaillant attached to the side of my house. nice airflow, short pipe runs and out of view from me and most of the neighbours.

[@simono.d9469]

In all fairness it does resemble a bin put there by the council.

[@anthonyschofield7807]

Why have you sited the heat pump in the public domain rather than on the other side of the stone wall which would also keep the trunking hidden.Is this not at risk of vandalism?

[@ekrano]

I understand the efficiency benefits of a heat pump. The problem for me, and I suspect many others, is the complexity and size. The internal components are at least 2 to 3 times the size of a combi boiler.

[@NicolasRaimo]

What’s crazy is 20/30 years ago this 2/3 times the size was normal and we ripped tanks out for combi and changed how the boiler warmed the home now we going back to what houses had in past

[@forsyth2842]

I've done 40 years in the building industry and seen all the new products, but this install has pipe runs that are excessive in copper, air locks, freezing pipes, and theft, and vandalism but just a few, I hope at 3 am in the morning when it starts humming down the street that you still got Neighbours to talk to. what I would like to see in modern housing estates have theses installs and other technology at the start of the build and not added on, this way you would not see the installations and would be fit for purpose .

[@clive4500]

Came down in the morning and the house was cold... shall I check if the heat pump is still outside... set the householder to the octopus energy company😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@greenenergy1146]

Heat pump installed on the street, this is a wind up correct?

[@NightWatch1337]

Did you consider putting the outdoor unit in your neighbour's yard 😂

[@NicolasRaimo]

Yea but sadly neighbor wanted me to pay to pipe it to there’s also

[@NatGooner]

That’s an eyesore for everyone else in the neighbourhood

[@nic47531]

Outside your garden wall facing your neighbours, probably not considered the done thing.

[@NicolasRaimo]

No different to caravans or trailers sat outside or bins

[@nic47531]

@@NicolasRaimo what about constant humming? It going to run 24/7 in winter?

[@NicolasRaimo]

@@nic47531 assume you not been near a normal ashp for air to water there really not noisy and running longer means lower overall compressor work so more quiet

[@RandomNoob]

@@nic47531 I cannot say about the cosy6 but I have a air2air one and its virtually silent, you have to get really close and listen to hear it, I once had a delivery driver ask if its noisy when running except it was already running they just couldn't hear it, modern ones with variable speed compressors are just very quiet, its not like the older ones that were either on or off.

[@wajopek2679]

Brave choice of install. Not for everyone

[@juliandclarke]

Interesting video Nic, thanks. We’ve had our Daikin Altherma 3H HT ASHP for 3.5 years. SCOP of 4. Replaced an oil boiler. No radiator or pipe changes (and we have 10mm micro bore pipe drops from 28mm main lines in loft). 210m2 2001 bungalow with some insulation improvements. Very pleased with our installation. Best wishes with yours. Keep up the good work

[@NicolasRaimo]

Thanks Julian!

[@farab4391]

My problem was with this heat pump, not Octopus Energy, until I read this on the Octopus website ... "Lifespan: Heat pumps can last up to 20 years, which is twice as long as a gas boiler.". Wow!!! So they're trying to tell you gas boilers only last up to 10 years. My 25 year old gas boiler in the garage still looks and works like new. I strongly doubt you'll be able to say that about a device with metal components that's been sitting outside in the UK weather for 25 years. For the ones they're currently making, I'll be surprised if they made 10 years. Replacing all the parts over a 10 year period obviously doesn't count.

[@clive4500]

I've just told my household insurance that my heat pump is outside on the street😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@pf888]

Whilst Octopus are to be applauded for disrupting the U.K. energy market, the design of the Cosy 6 is a bit of an eyesore and its footprint seems larger than tradition heat pumps? Also did the local council approve installation of the heat pump on the street?

[@NicolasRaimo]

Depends who you ask I prefer look of it over normal heat pumps and many neighbours commenting same and interested in getting same now

[@birdingbilly]

@@NicolasRaimo even more of a target for the local metal robbers, frankly I'm amazed you were able to get the necessary consents for that.

[@AaronCocker]

Looking at it it is in his property, his property probably includes the house, garden and garage and driveway, you can see the dividing line, not sure why so many people think it is in the street, it's just visible from the pavement.

[@healeydave]

@@AaronCocker looks outside his walls to me but either way, inside or out, that is one hideous install, pipes and cables all over the stonework and judging by other commenters, the external unit appears to be like marmite and I hate marmite too LOL

[@davebax6819]

I cannot believe, even with the insulation, the sheer length of the pipework OUTSIDE and in the coldest area of the property. It’s got the bloody water tank pipe work and buffer all in the cold loft space and by Jesus the pump in that heat pump is going to have to work hard to push all that water around.

[@chrisnix5775]

It looks like a rubbish bin!

[@dant4432]

😱 wow the whole lot looks so unsightly. Ive installed a split air conditioning system, cooling in winter, and battery storage. Looks and works way better than a wet heat pump system.

[@NicolasRaimo]

But would of cost more than £1350 this was installed for and id still need to find a way to heat my water

[@dant4432]

@NicolasRaimo split systems, now, are cheap, and they heat straight away as its air driven and they cool. Solar with split elec supply to the hot water. I weighed up both inc how it would look once done. The air conditioning in summer makes the house comfortable all year round. Take up on heat pumps are slow due to what you have been through, I guess. A spilt ac system is a heat pump, 800w electricity to get circa 3000w of heat. As with all these solutions, it's payback time and adding (not loosing valve) to the house. Each to their own.

[@NicolasRaimo]

@@dant4432 split air system was far far more than £1350 install price

[@intruder313]

Luddites alone will destroy this unit, let alone thieves and general vandals. The amount of internal piping and gear needed is 5x more than I expected so I’ll not be getting one until I have a big, new house.

[@iguanaman08]

Sometimes I watch KZbin and think I'm watching an episode of the Twilight Zone.

[@nigelmitchell5726]

What a crazy job and set up , no thanks 😂

[@chrisdavis3477]

Joined octopus 3 months ago. I had smart meters fitted and got the in home display that has never shown any figures it shows not commissioned nothing but problems trying to get this fixed.Customer service are awful, they say they will look into it and then go silent. The last lady I spoke to said give it another 6 weeks and you can take us to the ombudsman

[@NicolasRaimo]

Your aware in home displays are pretty useless ask them for a home mini to replace it… also the amount shown on the in home isn’t what your pay

[@chrisdavis3477]

The home mini has never even been mentioned to me, I will look into this although even my octopus app doesn't show my usage either and octopus have been no help at all.​@@NicolasRaimo

[@gmuzz]

How long is the run between the cylinder and the HP? The losses will be huge and will trash the COP

[@martingill6996]

Did you re-enforce the loft joists? thats a lot of weight in that hot water tank. Can’t see why the heat pump would be located there .

[@trevorpitchell5970]

Hi,I have watched all your videos,so I understand your installation.My concern is as others have stated is the unit's vaunability...by people or cars... Could you not have installed it in the garden on the other side of the wall ..away from others .

[@eddyd8745]

Many thanks for posting this Nicolas, you asked all the questions I wanted to know the answers for. I had a survey much earlier in the year but my 1920s house needs something a bit more powerful than the 6kW unit. I'm waiting for the larger units to come out (I've heard it may be a Cosy 10 at the beginning of next year). I'd be really interested in what you performance data looks like after running it for a bit.

[@TJames]

For your sake, Nick, really hope the next teen TicTok trend isn't: "What happens when a Cody 6 meets Mr Sticky, Lucy Glue or Terry Treacle". 😮

[@markeh1971]

I was thinking it will be nicked, or vandalised. Nicked by some kind sole. Take care M.

[@pitstop.pen10]

Nice bin

[@peterglover1271]

What an ugly piece of kit. Hope they don’t become the norm. Also seems silly to put on a public street….just asking for vandalism

[@davidsanders904]

Looks like a litter/salt bin, with a pink logo!

[@cbattman]

Wow bet the neighbours are buzzing 😂 It's virtually invisible 🫣🤓

[@maxthelab8457]

Got up the next morning and guess what...................it had been nicked! Now who would have guessed? Bloody ridiculous idea.

[@neilgilroy1629]

Genuinely great video! Please do follow ups! Would love to see how it’s going, SCOP, running costs and how solar/battery in autumn/winter and a heat pump mix.

[@NicolasRaimo]

Coming soon! Stay tuned

[@davefish8107]

What does the electrical regulation stand on putting this equipment in the area of the general public

[@NicolasRaimo]

Like at outside light… or an outside socket…

[@archibaldoctavion3851]

That is an outrageously stupid place to put that and having gone through some of your responses to comments, you seem completely oblivious to reality. That thing is going to be vandalised at the very least and straight up knicked for the copper scrap at worst. You're seriously suggesting that couldn't have gone on the other side of the wall?

[@birdingbilly]

and not a cat in hells chance of getting an insurer to cover that and frankly you would need good public liability cover with that thing on the street, I mean how long before some kid shoves something in the fan. Absolutely moronic place to put it.

[@nic47531]

@@archibaldoctavion3851 I think consideration to neighbours would mean inside the garden wall would've been a must but 🤷

[@richardbartlett6932]

@@birdingbillySeems they put the isolator behind the unit (judging by the sloppy cable run?) so it will get turned off by a kid or a disgruntled neighbour as it's his land I would have thought a cage would have been a safety minimum or better still extend the wall to square off the garden turn it round and point in inwards so it's properly in his demise. Pipe runs couldn't have been longer if they tried which reduces efficiency and increases response times and water volume It really should be at least 300mm above ground for proper drain run off. Come winter that unit will be in 6" of ice as the defrost water will not be able to get away before it re-freezes. By January it will be refitted either up or somewhere else IMHO. I'm surprised Octopus want this install as a show piece IMHO

[@davebax6819]

It’s so ugly he doesn’t want to see it inside his garden😂, he may as well have stuck the thing on the roof as at least it would look like a chimney 👍

[@mrjwarosa]

Battery angle grinder, sack truck, two strong lads and thats away in under 2 minutes​, unless the invisible anchor bolts stop this@@birdingbilly

[@SteveAlexanderBrown]

I’m curious about a couple of things Did you require permission from highways as the heat pump is facing the road. We were told that when suggesting a similar location. Also did you have to reinforce the loft, or just board it?

[@NicolasRaimo]

Highway rule only applies On land within a Conservation Area or World Heritage Site. Long as it’s a meter from boundary. Reinforcement mentioned in video

[@Chatterisdotbiz]

Your garden looks a good size, any reason you didn’t get it installed nearer to you house on the other side of the wall?

[@NicolasRaimo]

See heat pump series on my channel page, my garden is pretty small and locations inside limited

[@mathewnewton3499]

You wouldn't want that sitting in your garden. Better putting it where only your neighbours have to see it, it would appear.

[@BenJandrell]

I love heat pumps and their efficiency, but surely the angled fan design of the compressor unit is welcoming rain/snow ingress. Seems a little odd to me, maybe I'm wrong?

[@yngndrw.]

Commercial heat pumps (The ones on the roofs of tall buildings) tend to all have their fans pointing straight up. When heating, the outside unit will produce condensation (Hence the defrost cycle) and must already have a drainage system setup.

[@richardbartlett6932]

it's a non issue

[@t4bs594]

No reason to assume you are not wrong.

[@farab4391]

If nothing else, it is definitely going to impact on the lifespan. Just the fact that heat pumps are installed outside impacts on the lifespan, because nothing, especially metal components, do not survive outside in the UK weather. My 25 year old gas boiler in the garage still looks and works like new. I strongly doubt you'll be able to say the same about this heat pump.

[@t4bs594]

@@farab4391 I suspect that your boiler doesn't work like new. It works like a 25 year old boiler, with 25 year old boiler lower efficiency. I think the rep from Octopus mentioned that they have chosen a plastic case so that it will weather better than metal. I'm also guessing that the intention is not for heat pumps installed now to be still used in 25 years time. Things move on, develop, improve and get replaced. Your boiler may look good, may be running without problem, but it will probably have an efficiency of about 60-70% compared to a new one with 90+% efficiency.

[@markingle8487]

It's funny how many think the condenser unit looks ugly; I don't mind it, and many larger split air conditioning units have the condenser fan on the top - that doesn't seem to cause reliability issues. However, the location chosen for the condenser makes it very vulnerable, and I'm disappointed that the pipe runs are excessively long.

[@NicolasRaimo]

See last week and it will make more sense

[@Goatmasterfunk]

This is so regressive. Such disruption to install a system that is so complicated. Hot water tank in the loft!!!! We’re literally back to the 70s

[@MaddogPepper]

Only 6kw of heat demand as well - seems like a lot of effort for that to me. My combi boiler is probably 1/3 the size of that outdoor unit can provide 38kw of heat demand and doesn't need a water tank which just runs out with a large family. Agree, this solution has a lot of room for improvement before its a real alternative to a combi.

[@ipedros7]

Two issue for me straightaway. First is of course the HP on the street. The second is that power unit box the restricting path. Good luck. Something I became aware from one of his videos I believe Nicolas said he'd request them to point the unit at his property. And seems decided against from video. Would be interesting to know why.

[@plinble]

Put in rounded top black/gold painted fleur-de-lis fencing to avoid misunderstandings? Likely means the shrubs need hand clippers. No cold well building up in the garden, never realised they could be that far away.

[@Lewis_Standing]

That's an interesting placement Nic, is that officially on your property? Some commercial properties put a cage around their HP to protect from vandals if they are publicly accessible.

[@NicolasRaimo]

It’s my land yes, I own that entire strip, heat pumps don’t get nicked there’s plenty of other places with easier things to steal and resell

[@Lewis_Standing]

Just thinking of a cheeky kid damaging it rather than nicking it, I'm sure it's too heavy to lift ​@@NicolasRaimo

[@NicolasRaimo]

@@Lewis_Standing I live in a nice area with cctv on 2 neighbors homes everyone in village knows everyone if I lived where my old home was I’d agree

[@Lewis_Standing]

​@@NicolasRaimolooks good mate. I'm jealous I need to get off gas asap.

[@Trifusion1]

@@NicolasRaimoWon’t it impact the efficiency having it so far from the property? I was informed you want it as close as possible to your hot water tank, ideal within a couple of feet, but you must have at least a 30 foot run there, probably more.

[@nickchallacombe1603]

Can I ask what size the attic access hatch was for them to get the tank in there? As I have been told I need an opening of 700mmx700mm for them to fit the hot water cylinder up, but only have 500mm as krs between joists and have no way of changing this? Haven't had the survey done yet just going from what I've been told on the phone.

[@NicolasRaimo]

I think the slimline tank is 50cm wide so it won’t fit.. 500mm loft hatch smaller than building regs allow so am assuming it’s an older build home don’t you have the old tank location?

[@nickchallacombe1603]

@NicolasRaimo my house is 15 year old mate, Ill have to double check that measurement may have been 550mm I do have an old tank cupboard but it's half height only 1.6m tall in total

[@NicolasRaimo]

@ take a remeasure of hatch ask if a slimline tank would go there hatch , your old tank location is it built of a false floor that could be lowered?

[@rickbaguley7997]

Looks like a nice neat installation Nick 👍🏻

[@xperyskop2475]

Especialy this BAZOKA on the street NOOO

[@MusicRelatedCandy]

Yeah, if you ignore the great big heat pump on the pavement

[@AudioGraphics]

Just had my survey done for a Cosy 6, 1st stumbling block was that because it runs on Propane it is not allowed near any house events, which eliminated basically all the sensible places it would go. Furthermore, My roof pitch is quite low so couldn't fit in a vertical standing water tank, The horizontal one were an extra cost of £800. No heat pump for me.

[@NicolasRaimo]

What’s the total quote? Without the extra £800? Also could you get a smaller tank but just heat it to 60c more? Also how long you had your boiler? If nearing replacement could be worth getting it now before grant goes bye bye

[@AudioGraphics]

@@NicolasRaimo Hello! Thanks for the Reply. Original quote was £597 (£497 with your referral code) Then quoted the extra £800 for the Horizontal tank, also because we couldn't go with the Cosy6 (propane issues) the Daikin would have breached noise regulations so potentially £200 for non guaranteed planning permission, that with a structural survey of the loft.... total outlay would be in the region of £1,650 including your referral discount. (Combi Boiler is 9 years old btw)

[@NicolasRaimo]

@@AudioGraphics worth noting they all going propane route so bear that in mind! It’s only marginally more than I paid (£1350) work out if it’s worth it for you in payback and potential of boiler breaking remember your save £100 a year in standing charge

[@AudioGraphics]

@@NicolasRaimo I also forgot to mention, because of my low pitched roof I would have to move my loft hatch to get the water tank in (I have no idea what that would cost.) The only place we could potently have the Daikin was right next to the front door and it was still breaching noise regulations. And it looks a bugger. Also It would be hard to give up my Intelligent Go tariff for our EV'S. (so decided against it) Do you know the reason why they're going propane? They engineer/survey that came round said he had only one sign up for the Cosy6 in the last month or so because of the issues with it using propane, its seems to becoming a big stumbling block for people.

[@NicolasRaimo]

@@AudioGraphics risk of release, propane has a co2 release of 2 or 3 and others are like 50 or more

[@dcr1999]

I quite like the look of the Cosy6. It makes a nice change from the bland looking white boxes you normally see.

[@NicolasRaimo]

Totally agree why we got it

[@AntonGully]

Have you seen the original Red heat pump? Quick plunger mod and you'd have yourself a Dalek.

[@iamwitwicky]

Thanks for the video mate, I signed up earlier and used your code for splitting the £200.

[@robbenson4598]

The inhabitants of the local travellers site will soon have all that lovely copper pipwork down the scrapyard quicker than you can say Jack Robinson.

[@NicolasRaimo]

Firstly let’s not label a group of people like that. Next people steal things they can take easily without getting caught… a busy housing estate overlooked by the road isn’t one

[@David-bl1bt]

I would be VERY nervous having one fitted in the open adjacent to a public accessible place.....My 1st concern would be how long before it attracts graffiti (many interesting options open with that shape😂) and secondly someone in the middle of the night sawing off the pipework and nicking off with it!

[@adrianchetwynd1334]

@@NicolasRaimoWhy do they use copper outside instead of plastic?

[@Haggisking]

@@NicolasRaimo Tell that to the people who get the catalytic converters sawn off their cars in the middle of the night. A couple of guys with an angle-grinder and flatbed could have that away in less than a minute.

[@WindyJAMiller]

A cars CAT is a small, high value unit that's easy to remove, requires no more processing and almost impossible to identify what car it came from. A heat pump is almost the exact opposite.

[@ThatElectricLife]

Hey, how much energy is it using a day on average now it’s cold? Also, when they removed the old boiler did they fill in the hole for the exhaust flute?

[@G3RTH]

Why have you positioned it out side your garden wall for the rest of the street to view planning required? Also be a magnet for kids sticking twigs in and be tempted to give it a kick 😬

[@NicolasRaimo]

See previous videos explaining why

[@NatGooner]

@@G3RTH when you look at the effort that the architects and builders have gone to to make it a pleasant and attractive estate and then someone basically says “I don’t care about my neighbours and I won’t have to see it” I’m quite keen to get a heat pump and have an active quote from Octopus at the moment but that location is really selfish in my opinion.

[@yngndrw.]

@@NatGooner If you want control over how a plot of land looks, you're welcome to buy it. Otherwise, let people do what they want on their own land.

[@peterlawley7644]

I wouldn't tear my house apart to fit a heat pump, and like others have commented, why is it apparently situated out on the street? I'd rather buy a zero-emissions boiler from Tepeo if I was spending that amount, just plugs into the existing flow and return water supply without having to fit new radiators or rip out the walls.

[@wobby1516]

I’m not adverse to the heatpump after all it’s not that bad, but outside next to a public path for all your neighbours to see and vandals to damage no way. If you don’t like looking at it in your own garden it’s a bit much to subject it on your neighbours a bit NIMBY ! 😡 I thought better of you, and by the way I also have a heatpump but mines in my garden away from my neighbours garden or sound. I paid extra to position mine so it was out of sight.

[@NicolasRaimo]

I wanted it front of home home but as it was 1 meter from boundary it wouldn’t get planning permission this was my 3rd location not primary

[@Greggspies]

Is that your land beyond that wall?

[@techgeek6142]

Thanks buddy, great video! And well done for ignoring the busy bodies moaners in the comments ! They make me disgusted with some people’s attitude and self entitlement…

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

The ones saying how it is?

[@suegreen7568]

Great video, thanks. Do you know what the Cosy 6 became available for installation in the UK? Many thanks

[@NicolasRaimo]

From August 2024

[@suegreen7568]

@@NicolasRaimo Many thanks

[@zjzozn]

Great vlog and hope the position brings extra sales 👍. The scrap man’s nose it twitching with all that copper pipe. Have you seen Gone in 5 seconds? 😂👍

[@jason8966]

What's a vlog? 😜

[@sdgelectronics]

Some unusual installation choices across the board here. Are the fitters former heating installers, or is this all new?

[@NicolasRaimo]

The choices are mine as the customer

[@sdgelectronics]

@@NicolasRaimo I mean things like a consumer unit mounted directly onto the outside wall, pipe runs etc.

[@Chris-hy6jy]

How can the COP be good with such crazy long primary pipe runs? Octopus should have said "sorry sir, your property will be much better served with a gas boiler".

[@NicolasRaimo]

@@Chris-hy6jy how can you comment on cop based purely on run, pipes insulated 22mm copper inside trunking on a south facing wall…

[@Chris-hy6jy]

@@NicolasRaimo on a cold winter's night, said south facing wall will be sub zero! The idea is to keep all pipework inside the heated envelope for obvious reasons. Just see how it goes. I hope it's fine, I really do. I also hope if it's not, you'll be honest and report any issues.

[@ebebop]

Hell of a run for 22mm. I would love to know the true cop for this unit

[@NicolasRaimo]

@@ebebop live for my members so far it’s good!

[@BillHughes-wt5ud]

They wanted to put the water tank in my kitchen sticking out in the gangway and the heat pump in the middle of my drive way. I wanted the pump situated at the back of the house but was told it couldn’t be done because of the amount of piping. Needless to say I didn’t go ahead.

[@PiratesBlackVTi]

It’s on the street 😳 is this for real? It will get stolen 😮

[@NicolasRaimo]

Why would they steal a very unique heat pump on a busy residential street what’s the market of resale? Can’t scrap it as it’s gas inside and much easier things to steal for fast resale plus every industrial estate near me has them on show bigger units and quiet roads

[@xperyskop2475]

@@NicolasRaimo Your street is not indriustial estate . New Builds are ugly as it is , regulations shoud force them to have bigger gardens so those monstrocites of heat pumps can be put in gaerdens .

[@Trifusion1]

@@xperyskop2475they should be putting heat pumps in when they build them. It’s insane that they’re still putting gas into new builds.

[@CyrilSneer123]

@@Trifusion1 maybe because no one wants them

[@Mike-hu8yz]

@@NicolasRaimo Because they can. Many horrible, chip on their shoulder, jealous vandals would be happy to run that octopus over and laugh all the back to their lair. Sorry but that's how it is these days. You cannot leave your car in the street and be confident it won't be damaged.

[@susomantv]

Awesome~~🎉🎉

[@NicolasRaimo]

Thanks 😆

[@michaelmatthews4605]

The location of the heat pump seems a bit err awkward. Maybe having it inside your garden would protect it from damage. Also a bit concerned that the sound from the heat pump will impact your rear neighbor.

[@NicolasRaimo]

sound isn't an issue, I've ran it on the loudest settings and checked with neighbour daughter whos window is the nearest she said she can't hear it with window open. am 100% not worried about its location

[@CyrilSneer123]

@@NicolasRaimo "am 100% not worried about its location" Really?? You're utterly naive.

[@michaelmatthews4605]

Fans never get quieter as they get older!

[@chrismorrish130]

Thanks for this video. I was interested in the bit about pods and zoning. Heat Geek's training explains why zoning is usually a bad idea. I just wandered what your installers said about this.

[@NicolasRaimo]

Zoning depends on size of your home my home is one zone and octopus balanced the rads to the room, the pods just feed sensor to the cosy6 so it learns how your home heats and loses heat more about the controls coming out today for members and patreons on early access video levels

[@topdownsheba]

Surely, there will be a lot of heat loss along that long pipe run however good the insulation is. 😮

[@johnnodge4327]

Heat loss from open copper pipe is tiny in comparison to the heat energy in the water flowing through it. Also it's well insulated, and in a trunking, so heat loss will be minimal. I'd personally have put the tank inside the property, but that's not always possible on a new build home designed for a combi boiler.

[@robertp.wainman4094]

I so hope that green electricity prices will come down enough - so that I can just have simple panel heaters in each room......instead of the crazy amount of pipework, tanks, controls and associated gubbins that are the reality of heat pumps - it's like an abuse to the fabric of a property.

[@NicolasRaimo]

Heat oh no still be at least 3 times cheaper and you’d still need to find a way to heat the water

[@robertp.wainman4094]

@NicolasRaimo Just a simple immersion heater.

[@NicolasRaimo]

@ so you already have most the pipe work then…

[@Actual_electrical_content]

It’s on the street not long before your council get you to move it , your neighbors complain about the noise or some child injures them self on it and your totally liable for the injuries

[@CyrilSneer123]

Indeed. It's probably the dumbest sht I've seen all year.

[@gavinjohn-hyde2760]

Thats the least of his worries, I would be more concerned about the weight loadings on the timber in loft as it doesnt look too sturdy. already has pv loaded on top of the roof. Doubt the install firm obtained a structural survey

[@nigelhester5561]

Just come across your video showing the insulation of your octopus heat pump which looked like you had fitted tank in the loft, on the octopus web site it says ground or first floor. Was this an issue

[@garydully3455]

I thought octopuses were intelligent creatures! A heat pump outside the property boundary is not very sensible, let alone a ton of copper pipes enticing scrap thieves.

[@NicolasRaimo]

Outside the boundary? How

[@clivewilkinson5394]

Really is that why I have to leave it on all the time to get hot water. And when I go on holiday in the winter. Back in the dark ages of the 80's we used to turn the water off got it on demand

[@mwongerakarambu4912]

Beautiful! Thanks for sharing! One more step in enlightening the UK past all the historic gaslighting 😂

[@NicolasRaimo]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@efixx]

2:18 what’s that big box on the wall

[@NicolasRaimo]

The plywood? That with wood is for supporting tank

[@farab4391]

This must be a CO2 footprint disaster replacing a gas boiler with this. The manufacture of that huge thing, all the piping, the large tank, plus all the materials for installation. Part of of newbuild maybe, but as a replacement you're not doing the environment any favours.

[@Bikebros27]

Just looking into having 1 fitted and trying to figure out if it will actually save me money i am in a new build also which is only 7 years old i already have solar panels a 6.4kw system and a 10kw battery, do you find it actually work better

[@NicolasRaimo]

My house is always WARM rather than sometimes warm and sometimes cool its just WARM all the time its hard to explain but the home just feels more evenly heated than in past and its never been a cold home like you its a 7 year old new build. Coupled with octopus energy deals is cheaper factor in my battery and solar its MUCH CHEAPER and in the summer its going to be FREE. Am not paying standing charge on gas anymore either! All in all am super impressed and happy

[@85parrot]

i've just noticed its right next to your garage entrance as well, that is so vulnerable to damage from people parking. wow.

[@richpbrown2]

Yes it’s great that it’s cheap, but it does mean especially having g to use the app you are solely dependent on octopus for your heating and hot water, think I’d rather pay more and have the freedom of being totally independent

[@NicolasRaimo]

How am I soley dependent on octopus? you can still use the heat pump and NOT be an ocotpus energy customer its literary mentioned in the video and one of the main questions I asked

[@leexgx]

Be intresting if you post a video when this gets stolen or vandalised (be intresting if house insurance would even cover it if it is stolen/destroyed due to it been outside the wall)

[@yngndrw.]

Not everybody has a garden wall, so I don't see why they wouldn't cover it.

[@NicolasRaimo]

Firstly stolen... Its got to be the worst item to steal its HEAVY, connected to pressure water system with hot water and bolted into the ground its also SUPER rare and odd item so resale on it would be a nightmare plus it won't work without control system its paired to which is inside the home, the unit it self has little to no scrap value as plastic case and limited amounts of scrap metal value for effort needed to steal it. I don't live in an area where vandals are an issue and its well coverd by CCTV and overlooked by over 5 homes and busy street. Home insurance no issue its part of fixtures and fittings, its within my homes boundary and land I own, no difference to someone install front of there home which many do

[@bolwem50]

Great to see these finally coming to market and I like the look of it. I think a protective cage round it would be a good move though.

[@juliebrooke6099]

Won’t stop kids trying to flick crisp packets etc into it.

[@rattylol]

Oh yeah that will look much better.......not.

[@davidgrinter1559]

This cannot be serious! What rightminded house owner would agree to the heat pump being installed out on the street like this..... How long before the unit is vandalised.....? Also, what if this chap wants to move. Surely, this installation would be a deterrent for a prospective buyer.

[@Dogbreath1974]

i wonder how long the bearings will last with the fan on the slope

[@NicolasRaimo]

as opposed to what? its been designed with the tilt rather than its been tilted

[@Dogbreath1974]

@ bearings last better horizontal or vertical, less wear

[@jsncdy]

I'm sorry, I don't care how much that saves me, I'm not having something that ugly near my house.

[@JJ-zg1hh]

Come on, it's not that bad.

[@yngndrw.]

Fine, don't. Nobody's forcing you to have one.

[@Buzzzz]

It’s stands out too much. The materials are cheap. I wouldn’t install this personally. I like octopus and wish they were in Ireland. But no for me.

[@davecavaghan7889]

What's going to stop your local thief from ripping out all that copper

[@Paul-hu3zr]

The video is very informative and clear for anyone considering this product and installation. I share concerns about the location of the cosy6 itself, regulations state At least 1m from boundary (England and Scotland) or 3m (Wales). You are pushing that positioning it on the corner outside your wall. You may find there are clauses on deeds restricting what you can do with the external landscaped area. Why was the trunking not run in the inside of your boundary wall and drilled through behind the heat pump? This would have been far tidier and prevented vandalism accidental damage or theft. Why was the base flush to the ground and not raised up? If you get any significant rain or local flooding your heat pump is dead. Why put a top water cylinder in the loft? Excessive weight and also it's up above your insulation, so exposed to cold/ hot temperature swings and any heat it gives off is lost, reducing efficiency.

[@PikeMortnoy]

Will be great to see how it performs and practical use. I have a conventional HP and love it, but took a lot of trial and error to get perfect. 6kw is really small so will be interesting. Not too sure about the location there. Might be me just being a Londoner but would be worried about it drawing attention or going for a walk... hopefully that wont happen.

[@madgebishop5409]

looks like a council grit bin

[@NicolasRaimo]

Prefer it to the industrial looking HP everyone else fits

[@Japnut]

Why are there so few reviews of the cosy 6 online?

[@NicolasRaimo]

Because it’s only just been released mine was one of the first of a handful