They put the keys in the box and it doesn’t even have a Clinton hole thank god it doesn’t.😂
@daithi19666 ай бұрын
I'll pass. I personally like the S&W 340PD. More expensive, and lots of kick, but crazy light for carry. Nevertheless, it's pretty troubling you had issues with a brand new revolver. Makes me question S&W overall.
@BadDriverrrАй бұрын
Same, but 342Ti for me. Lighter, more reliable. Only downsides are the price and availability - few floating around any more.
@sombra61536 ай бұрын
I’ve sent several M&Ps back to warranty for everything from 5K round “tune ups” to just not working. The turn around for me was always pretty quick. Only had one I had to return a second time for the same problem. Hope yours comes back with good turn around time.
@Pugh3576 ай бұрын
Sorry, that really sucks. I recently bought a Smith & Wesson 43c that had issues with the cylinder rod bolt not wanting to move, was able to fix that and open up the gun and found two really big aluminum burrs bouncing around inside 🙄. I'm glad I was able to figure it out and not have to send it back. Last time I had to send a revolver back to Smith & Wesson they had it for 5 months and when I got it back it wasn't fixed so I just traded it off. My guess with your new J frame is the rebound spring is too light. The trigger not resetting has happened to me back in my amateur gunsmithing days of putting in two light of a rebound spring 😅. Also If the rebound spring in rebound block is cut at an angle, not sitting flat against the pin that holds the spring in the rebound block, sometimes when it contracts back to reset, the spring is trying to pull one way or the other it will hang up. Hopefully there will be a quick turnaround for you.
@gunmonkey65456 ай бұрын
I had to send my 43C back after two cylinders. They replaced the main spring, cut the forcing cone, and repaired (they weren’t specific) the yoke. It’s been great since I got it back, but it’s incredibly frustrating and something’s going on with Smith, at least their revolvers.
@OldManMontgomery7 күн бұрын
I like the configuration of the new, improved sights; the shrouded hammer and the fully enclosed forend of the ejector rod. A standing inconvenience to me is the short extractor rod, which does not fully eject empty cases every time. This has been a theoretical drawback since the inception of the 'snubby', either I, J or K frame. On the smaller frames, the length of the barrel does restrict ejector length. I find that is less of a factor in K frame revolvers. But - I guess I want my cake and eat it as well. Also, I have a very strong aversion to the 'modern' design, including the Hillery Clinton Memorial Hole, deletion of the barrel pin and such. That is also a personal issue. The sights, fore and aft, look very good. I can use the older, smaller sights pretty well, but I like the idea of adjusting windage without the use of a fine file. The bright colors on the front sight likely simplify that use also. I note both sights seem to be smoothed so as not to be a snag problem. With all that, it does not seem to be a promising revolver for one not used to double action shooting. Which covers a lot of folks. Regarding sights: 1. The standards for accuracy is quite loose. That particular type of arm is for maximum concealment and use on a good sized target at less than five yards in the main. It was never (and should not be) considered a twenty-five yard target pistol. 2. One should not confuse 'grouping' of shots with correct alignment of sights. A tight bundle of shot holes some two feet from the properly aligned sights is a good group. One adjusts the sights, by tapping lightly, tapping vigorously or filing the rear sight notch will correct it. On the other hand, a twelve inch group evenly surrounding the properly aligned sights will NOT be corrected by fiddling with the sights. All in all, that is a good report. I do carry a M36 from time to time when I cannot carry anything larger. They do as they ought.
@timivers88236 ай бұрын
Love how the cat is so interested in everything we do.
@logangodofcandy6 ай бұрын
I find your review to be appalling. You stopped riding motorcycles!?!? That's basically heresy. I'm just waiting for these grips to be made commercially available.
@cdlund28406 ай бұрын
S&W QC just plain sucks. They are overpriced paperweights today. Sad a once great gun maker is reduced such junk today. You only have the one but there are so many bad smith revolvers that its more than a small problem. My 642 failed after 4 years and they told me it was "normal wear and tear" and would not cover a thing. Their "warranty" is a crock. No way I am buying a $700 + gun that only has a 4 year lifespan and they won't stand behind their junk.
@JohnW-yv6yp6 ай бұрын
That's sad, I was very excited for this revolver, would have thought they would have boosted quality control for such a hyped revolver.
@wbwills26 ай бұрын
Exactly..ULTIMATE is a big claim to make. If the head honcho of whoever owns the place those are being made ,approved that name (and it seams to be a pretty nicely thought out little gun)wouldn’t you think a sane person would do everything with their power to make it as ultimate as it could possibly be. Add some extra ppl,time and checks on every step. Hope it doesn’t turn out to be too many problem guns. Or they might have ultimate egg on their face. I d be embarrassed if it’s more than a handful of sticky triggers or whatever. Get shamed mercilessly like Taurus with the twisted barrels. That was a decade or so of PAIN! No company needs that..
@wbwills26 ай бұрын
Bottom line,they don’t make anything like they used to. Im not a “collector” but I do like searching pawn shops ect for old ones. Take care.
@TedJ716 ай бұрын
I bought a 340 PD the first year they came out and still carry it.
@The_Conspiracy_Analyst5 ай бұрын
Your supervisor showed up to make sure everything is on the up and up
@Heavy-C6 ай бұрын
Bummer on the issue. I'm waiting on my 642 to replace my 642 pro series. IMO this is how the jframes should all come now.
@nickmiller926212 күн бұрын
My cat loves when i mess around with my revolvers aswell. She always lays on my ruger GP100 6" barrel. I think its the clicking it does. Yeah, i wouldn't mess with those airweights man. I owned a 637 for a little while and it sucked bad. I sold it off and now have a chief special 36-10. Now that is a nice little j-frame. I did have to send it back tho bc when it was sent it was missing the front bolt locking pin, the forcing cone looked like it was cut with a blowtorch and a severely pitted barrel. Smith made it right tho, it only took 2 months 😂 i hate waiting on a firearm to come back
@WalkingStreets5 ай бұрын
I'll stick with my reliable LCR 38 special :)
@HollyrockFarm3 ай бұрын
I hope you got better quality than I did! My 432-uc is out on its second trip to S&W. S&W Ultimate Carry June 2024 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHLaiX-qq7l0ndU
@lord15576 ай бұрын
I have a 642 Airweight. Even standard velocity .38 Special ammo is way too much for me. I find that mid-range target wadcutters a perfect fit. Tolerable recoil and reliable deep penetration.
@logangodofcandy6 ай бұрын
About as effective as top tier 9mm. Everybody wants fancy stuff, but wadcutters and semis are highly effective.
@jeremyclementmusic6 ай бұрын
I have a 642 and when I need deep concealment I run the factory grips, but agreed, I can't make it through more than one cylinder at the range that way. The Crimson Trace laser grip absorbs recoil of the hottest plus p loadings and also greatly increases your effective range.
@LA_Commander4 ай бұрын
Try some Hogue grips for your 642 it will improve the gun 100%
@WalterLitwinko6 ай бұрын
I will stick with my Model 49 BodyGuard that I bought new in 1980.
@jeffanon17726 ай бұрын
Haha...I bought my Mod 49 in 1980 also. Carried it for years as a back up & off duty...still have it & planning on giving it to my grandson
@dane58966 ай бұрын
When I bought my 442, I had to send it back for repairs. The trigger was striking the frame, and left big scratches in the frame. (100 rounds) They replaced the frame and the trigger. 👍
@SFsc6161716 ай бұрын
thx! i'll stay with the 442.
@keysgirl76996 ай бұрын
I was just replying the exact same thing. 😂
@bobrowley43465 ай бұрын
Just a week ago I handled a NIB 442 Performance Center at a LGS and after about 10 dry-fire trigger pulls the cylinder quit turning thereafter when pulling the trigger... Unacceptable, S&W has let their wheel guns go to crap. Sad.
@BertieW0oster3 ай бұрын
Interesting malfunction, I wonder what was causing it.
@timburton95146 ай бұрын
I’ve had zero issues with my 642
@joeherrera32476 ай бұрын
Sample of only one, I still Instantly felt less confidence in S&W. I’ve been searching for one of these in H&R mag, disappointed to see this video. S&W collaborated with Lipsey on this new special series though, so…
@doughunter9246 ай бұрын
Just picked up my 432 in 32mag. Love it but finish on front of the cylinder is scratched all to hell. Also they didn’t Champher the charge holes. Debating on sending it back or just living with it! 😱👍🏻🇺🇸
@deluxe16684 ай бұрын
A lot of them are same as yours, it stuck on the cycle. I think they should do a re-call.
@desklamp11756 ай бұрын
We've all opened boxes. Boring.
@adrock82036 ай бұрын
Wow. Hell of an issue to have on a carry gun.
@woodystemms37993 ай бұрын
I have one on order ... don't know how long it'll take. In no big hurry, especially after seeing this video!
@AK-ky3ou6 ай бұрын
That grip looks incredibly comfortable, the extra on the backstrap will likely help with trigger pull compared to the standard j frame grips. Damn, it had to be returned.
@fifty-sevenactual6 ай бұрын
They did get the grip right.
@jeffreyhall8386 ай бұрын
Nice looking new J model, like you i own a few of these but lately i find myself packing a compact 9mm like my Hellcat or P365x, i find i shoot these little pistols much more accurately than my J's
@wbwills26 ай бұрын
Y. Me too. But…when I was spending more time with my revolvers I could have it out & turned around,standing in a odd position and more or less point shooting better than with the little guns. You have to give the majority of your attention to the main one .
@jasonashley45796 ай бұрын
Is Smith and Wesson still using that cheap watercolor finish?
@weirdshibainu5 ай бұрын
Wow. I own a Taurus 856 with over a thousand trouble free rounds through it. Sorry about your troubles
@tiebear16 ай бұрын
I have several hundred rounds through my Ultimate Carry with zero issues. Thats a shame that you received one that is running right. Have you tried to send in the J-frame rebate yet? I summited mine and S&W isnt standing behind their product.
@fifty-sevenactual6 ай бұрын
I didn't know about a J-Frame rebate.
@tchambers8076 ай бұрын
I thought the rebate was only for certain j frames. I don't think they opened it up to any j frame for the $50 rebate
@m1xt4pez116 ай бұрын
The Ultimate Carry doesn't qualify for the current SW rebate as far as I know, it's only their older series
@tiebear16 ай бұрын
@@m1xt4pez11 I called Lipseys and they couldnt give me a straight answer. Either way its and awesome revolver
@emaxxx136 ай бұрын
Sent my 642 back as well. Locked up hard after broke an internal part. They did fix it and returned with out any trouble. Still disappointing.
@dividualist6 ай бұрын
Man, that's disappointing to see. I'm still looking to buy a 432UC to replace my 442, but I'm a bit wary now after seeing this. I already bought a couple hundred rounds of .32 H&R wadcutters since I was worried about ammo availability, but I suppose I could still go with the LCR in .327 if I decide against the Ultimate Carry.
@MrLanternland6 ай бұрын
Get an old used good condition S&W from years ago when the quality was far superior to what it is today.
@gunmonkey65456 ай бұрын
I purchased a brand new 43C and had to return it to S&W for repairs. It had 3 major issues that they repaired and so far it’s been running fine. I am not the only one and this is not the only model that’s had issues. For almost $800 mine should have run out of the box. How do they let these things leave the factory. I would rather they put 50 rounds through it than have to test it for them. I don’t know if it’s the move that they’re making or problems with the workforce, but they need to get their act together before this becomes a serious issue. They are in danger of having Taurus’ old reputation.
@logangodofcandy6 ай бұрын
Almost all of them work flawlessly and we hear about the 1% of them that have problems. 1% is a lot out of tens of thousands of guns a year, but it's cheaper fix 1% than replace expensive parts on machines to get it down to 0.1%
@gunmonkey65456 ай бұрын
Logan, normally I would agree with you but this has been an ongoing issue for about 3 years. It’s not just this model either. The 43C, 617, 19 Carry Comp have had issues, and very serious issues. Furthermore, the problems seem to be with their revolvers, not their semiauto’s. This leads me to think that perhaps it’s their workforce or machines. This isn’t one KZbinr who received a lemon, or typical numbers you might see in mass produced guns, it’s more than that. Also, if it were one particular problem that they were having, even if it was widespread, that’s correctable with a recall. This is multiple issues that aren’t mechanically related.
@wbwills26 ай бұрын
I’ve been thinking that a bunch of stuff was most likely rushed during the” record sales “time period. It makes sense. Im trying to stay away from as much as possible. Have more than enough anyway. I want a ultimate old shooters grade model 49 right now. Found one at a great price .couldn’t do it. Was too nice. Had 70s air in the box. Time capsule that made somebody’s day. Kinda regret that one,kinda not. Plenty of guns and they are stacked to the rafters in some cases.
@boxerjoe13146 ай бұрын
Wow can't believe it had to go back. What holster did you used to carry your J frames in?
@fifty-sevenactual6 ай бұрын
Early years of my job an ankle holster. Later as our concealed vests improved, in a pocket on the center front of the vest, under my uniform shirt. Today with a ankle holster (Wilderness Tactical). Galco Yaqui slide for strong side carry. Or JM Custom Kydex for AIWB. Bicycle riding - a fanny pack. Still got the same one from the 90s!
@joseywales8776 ай бұрын
I got a HARRY"S 2.0 holster for my 637 smith j frame. absolutley love it! 100.00 bucks best one I've seen, I have 3 other ones don't care for them.Check them out.
@f.scottgolder80856 ай бұрын
Why did a "no lock" revolver come with keys for a lock?
@tom_olofsson6 ай бұрын
Sorry you had problems. Good looking gun.
@christianhardwick65304 ай бұрын
Why are there keys in the box. QC is so iffy these days
@stephen5626 ай бұрын
Trigger issue aside, how was the grip feel and recoil? I believe these are a couple of ounces heavier than the original J-frame. Do the re-designed grips and extra weight make it more comfortable to shoot?
@fifty-sevenactual6 ай бұрын
I like the feel of the grips. The higher grip on the top of the back strap seemed like maybe a bit more muzzle flip control. Felt recoil overall, not really sure. I didn’t get enough rounds off to fairly judge. When it comes back fixed (hopefully) I could run it side by side with my 342PD.
@JohnBrown-wu4nc6 ай бұрын
Where did you purchase your pistol?
@fifty-sevenactual6 ай бұрын
A local Lipsey's dealer in my area. Took about a week and a half to come in from Lipsey's.
@JohnBrown-wu4nc6 ай бұрын
Thank you, I ordered a 432 but have not recei.ved it @@fifty-sevenactual
@kylewood83273 ай бұрын
I’ve carried a 1975 M10-5 snub and 1985 M66-2 snub. Something about older Smiths that cry’s quality! Bummer about yours. I’ve had 640’s that had barrel lineup issues, they’re gone.
@GaryEtheridge-d5n5 ай бұрын
I love carrying a Charter Arms .38 snub 5 shot..I also have pocketworn Beretta. .25 Bobcat as back up if needed- old school choices I guess..it works for me ❤ Best Of Luck To All
@JohnDebasa6 ай бұрын
i think the only advantages over the 638/642 would be the sights and possibly the grip but if you are firing at anything over 15-20 feet away, in the heat of the moment, you probably aren't going to hit the target unless you train a lot with the gun
@logangodofcandy6 ай бұрын
If you learn your trigger, they are extremely accurate. It's not harder than auto triggers, just different.
@JohnDebasa6 ай бұрын
@@logangodofcandy most people dont have the time or $$$ to go to the range multiple times a week to shoot and train...i do because im retired, but im talking about the average person
@scubaguy0074 ай бұрын
This is my first seeing your videos. Thanks for posting. I like the looks of this one. The Hillary hole is still there, but less noticeable. I might recommend you carry a soft sponge with you so you can cover your mc hole with a piece of sponge and a tiny piece of tape. It will knock out that wind noise. Just a little trick we used to do before the mic sock was intervented. 😉😊
@anthonyperkins63646 ай бұрын
S&W 640 pro with a 3” fluted barrel is what would be great !!!!! How about it ? come on S&W !!!!
@leonnorris30805 ай бұрын
I like the black one with the titanium cylinder better
@Rnemhrd6 ай бұрын
Stinks it malfunctioned. I have one coming. What holster is that?
@fifty-sevenactual6 ай бұрын
JP Custom Kydex, the quick ship AIWB.
@maraudostrogoth7476 ай бұрын
If it's DA only, I'm not interested.
@ignatiusDOWN6 ай бұрын
It’s based on the model 42 so yes, all DAO
@robertwood35966 ай бұрын
Buy a Glock!
@robertlast30526 ай бұрын
Hahahaha!!
@robertlast30526 ай бұрын
Thats one ugly gun! I'll stick with my model 49. I also have a long memory and i havent supported and will not buy any new Smith since they bent over for Bill Clinton in the 90s.
@cubanchurchill6 ай бұрын
Damn brother !!!! You really holding a grudge for that long lol ? Time to let that go don’t you think 😂
@jimterry80176 ай бұрын
How's the trigger pull on that I have a 38 Smith & Wesson at Sugar Bowl so hard