First Motorcycle Training In 30 years!! | Bike Safe With The Met Police

After passing my test in 1992 I have not done any further training. So when I was invited on a Bike Safe course with the Met Police I though it was about time to see how many bad habits I've picked up, I was rather shocked!!
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[@ykdickybill]

“ Don’t overtake if there are offside options, driveway, lay-by, junction , warning triangle signs….” Brilliant golden nugget of advice is that.

[@_Just_Some1]

Timestamp 13:30

[@Crosshatch1212]

@@_Just_Some1 golden nugget .everyday riding information.i thought most people who drive bikes no there no no,s

[@davidyates1299]

Not something taught on DAS - in fact you never really do any overtaking as everyone else is going faster!

[@F3udF1st]

Just common sense.

[@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff]

I’m a ROSPA Tutor but I don’t own a pipe or a pair of slippers! Congrats for doing the day. I tell students they are 80% of the way to improving their safety on the road just by the very fact they have joined a group. Motorcycle Safety is grounded on your attitude, the practical sessions/lessons are just the icing on the cake.

[@calknight1666]

Did Bikesafe last Saturday then went out with my mate on Sunday who noticed the difference in how I ride and my confidence on the road. I’ve been riding four 40 years so its never too late to improve your skills.

[@julianmorris9951]

I’ve been riding on road for 4 years (ex off roader) and my instructor drummed into me that you never ever overtake if there’s any sort of junction ahead even if you can see it’s clear just so you get in the habit, maybe because I’m in my fifties it’s sunk in 🤔 I see loads of riders over taking when they’re unsighted by a van or something , the training new riders get now is a lot better than back in the day for sure 😊

[@headrace4863]

Good stuff. I was a police officer for a few years about 20 years ago… it took me a good while to get used to seeing the police vehicles behind you then thinking, oh yeah, I’m in one as well… the driver training was great fun though, shame about the rest of the job. Keep the great content coming. 👍👍

[@pcarts232]

The first mistake was the officer didn’t identify himself to a member of the public.. is that not police policy? 🤔

[@neilmackinnon3371]

Like you I started riding at 16, but in my case that was 1975! I passed my motorcycle test in 1976 and have ridden on and off ever since. Also like you I have not done any further training since passing my test and hardly did any before. I did my BikeSafe workshop with Gloucestershire Police a few weeks ago and found all aspects excellent. I really enjoyed the online video lectures and learned a lot, especially about other road users, but the lectures on the day were also educational and my assessed ride was really enjoyable. I would recommend BikeSafe to anyone who rides.

[@NooBiker]

I'm doing a BikeSafe this Thursday, from the same starting point and I'm guessing the same route. Even after having done the IAM course I still find these workshops very useful.

[@Nexus30]

I loved watching yours and Bruce's one after the other showing the different perspectives on the course. Yours felt like a more honest ride, Bruce definitely had his prefect badge on :) great video and loved your honesty throughout.

[@rufus1346]

I've heard "everyone is out to kill you" too but I like to think that if you ride like "no-one has seen you" it puts you in a better frame of mind. Just imagine you are invisible so if another vehicle pulls out on you or changes lanes in front of you you are ready for it but you don't get angry as it was an accident as they just didn't see you opposed to they are using you as target practice.

[@booshallmighty]

I too hate that saying. Motorcycling is fun, why would you want to imagine everyone is trying to kill you? My personal thoughts that I have is the same as I have with my car or van. Just stay out of people's way as best you can. Simple. Or maybe not. So many people drive in blind spots or along side an artic lorry. Just madness. I always try get clean air, no one in front or behind. This is what power is for, to get you into a safe bubble. Most of the riding accidents on KZbin it's clear to me it'd the rider being a dick. I think most riders are trying to kill themselves.

[@10secondsrule]

It's actually very good point.

[@firestorm755]

After 40 years I think I've picked up some bad habits. Great vid

[@driveandsurvive]

Thanks for another fun and informative video Chops. When he coached you on stopping distance behind a stationary vehicle ahead, another sound reason to stay back a bit, when filtering isn't a reasonable option, is to have an escape route from any potential daydreamer that's coming up from behind, to hot to stop. Thanks again Chops, keep em coming.

[@Shinysideup]

Well done chops I’ve been riding since I was 6 years old got a fizzy at 16 and have been riding on the road for 42 years, did the bike safe course last year, never too late to learn, I’d recommend it , definitely worth doing.

[@paulsmyth497]

Ian - You really SHOULD have had an AP50 mate.......... 😉. I started with a scrapped Mobylette which my Dad paid a fiver for - same time as you mate I guess. I agree too - I have been bikeless for 40 years until 2018. Ridden a few times on other peoples - but now BACK in the groove, but could do with a brush up on my skill level.

[@josephlarmor550]

Very refreshing to see this common sense approach on the BikeSafe course. My local force closed it down in early 2020 because of Covid, just as I had got back into biking after 30 years away. I had done a couple of days with an IAM group, but I didn’t like the constant emphasis on “making progress” and taking every possible overtaking opportunity. I will now go and find out if there are any BikeSafe courses available again near me. Thanks for a great video.

[@underwaterwatchesunderwater]

Brilliant. Watched this first on the Bikesafe website. Came here, so I could give you a thumbs up. Got my BikeSafe course coming up in a few week's time and I was feeling super nervous. But watching you has helped me to calm down a bit about having a policeman riding behind me. Plus the part on No overtaking with offside options - Priceless. Didn't know that =) Thanks again for filming this. Much appreciated =)

[@alexandernoble8447]

Love how Bruce adopted the police force stance with his hands inside his vest at the petrol station...😄

[@tonypammen6150]

I’ve done a couple of bike safe courses and found them to be really helpful, a cheap way to have someone look at your riding has got to be a good thing👍

[@wallaceshackleton1889]

I done the IAM course, no matter what I thought of the people within the organisation, their training was second to none. It was well worth the money, changing my riding for the better. The Bike Safe was good but the one to one multi-sessions with the IAM instructor were much more benificial.

[@NooBiker]

BikeSafe is just a taster. I'm sure Chops will sign up for IAM or RoSPA next 😉

[@Achilles22]

I did a course with Norfolk Traffic cops. I learnt about my many bad habits and am still follow their safety tips. Particularly Road positioning, and overtaking safely ,Well worth £50.

[@mugflump]

It is not east of london , it is north Essex just off the M11 before you get to Cambridgeshire

[@bencatt6246]

Did my IAMS down here in Cornwall. Met some great people ,learnt, and still learning a huge amount I think it’s something like 90% of motorcycle accidents are rider error. So why not get as much knowledge as you can. Think it cost me about £140 and all the instructors are volunteers. Raises your riding level, and that can’t be a bad thing Great vid Chopsy, keep em coming Ben

[@gixerloon]

As a guy who's worked in the Motorcycle trade, I've seen it first hand, unfortunately the majority of those bike accidents is 'Born Againers' that haven't ridden in 30 or more years going out and buying a fast modern bike and don't really have the understanding of what modern bikes are capable of, so defiantly some further training is a great idea, I'd highly recommend.

[@grahamhenry7327]

My local Iam are sadly knobheads and actually make riding a bike feckin boring Ride safe everyone

[@gixerloon]

@@grahamhenry7327 Funny you should say that, 30 years ago a mate asked me to go along to one of their car meetings.... 😴 😴 😴 I never went back. 🤣

[@twistymountain]

Nice to see you lads promoting BikeSafe and yes, the H2 all day long! 🤣

[@jamest5149]

Chops get in touch with Dave Palmer at Fast Trak in Shrewsbury Shropshire, he runs advanced rider training which end up in German and on the Ring… you will learn loads and enjoy the trip!

[@deanharris9331]

Really interesting information in that video Chops....I know I've got lots of bad habits I've picked up over the year's especially from my racing days.....so something like this training course would certainly be a wake-up call (as long as I'm not nicked at the end of it) lol.

[@neilhamill318]

Riding behind the Cop I'd be fighting of the strong urge to turn off at the closest left side street and the bonus from doing the course is he might remember you next time you get pulled over for speeding, he MIGHT give you a break. I did say might. 😁

[@Mikethebike721]

That was a lot more fun than I expected and I learnt stuff as well. Well done mr Chops

[@hyperthunk]

I'm doing the IAM and I love it, progressive and safe I how I wanna ride 90% of the time and tracks are there when I need a lot more excitement. 😁

[@victorgonza4528]

Great safety tips on the overtakes , good video Chops , well done

[@ryanmalone2681]

That course was the first time I ever heard or considered that after the PO told me about it. Also, they to,d me about how to position myself so people who don’t have the right of way can see my and I can see the whites of their eyes. Seems obvious now. At less than 3 months of riding, it changed my thinking and made me view riding defensively as serious as I took track riding, cornering, or any other aspects I enjoyed. I started to enjoy, and have ever since, always being prepared, predicting driver behavior, and avoiding close calls.

[@gcosmos960]

Ha how timely. Booked the course for July. Looking forward to it Mr chops.

[@averagebiker]

Really good to see the Fuzz's perspective on your mistakes - I do overtakes like that, food for thought.

[@jimmarshall807]

Coincidentally I did Bikesafe yesterday with the North Yorkshire Police. I'm old enough that my bike test was the old ride around the block and do an emergency stop affair so Bikesafe was my first formal training of any sort! Had a good Q&A session while reviewing the videos in the morning which provided some good tips then the observed ride along North Yorkshire's roads - much quieter than dahn sarf! Feedback for me was use position 3 for left handers (I generally do except when the corner's blind) and trust my tyres a bit more. For £65 it's a no-brainer to me, especially if you get an insurance discount on the back of it.

[@garethmayfield4014]

good advice. If you come to the Peak District mate. Stay out on those left handers as cyclists are usually there.

[@chrischristofis8501]

😂 i shouldnt say this but my MC test in 1981 was observed from a stationary position and i rode around while the examiner watched and drunk tea, emergency stop was raise the clipboard, i went on to race for quite a few years ( a few TT's) ive since redone the full training and test and am going onto advanced, its up to the individulual we are never to old to learn, and evey bit of training defo helps

[@ninja12lawbreaker]

I remember chasing a Pan European out of Croydon many years ago on my R1. I was waiting for the country lanes to pass him, no chance that bike was being ridden by a demon. It then dawned on me that he is probably off duty policeman. I followed him and got some schooling for a few miles instead

[@medler2110]

I remember back in the 80's trying to follow some old guy on a BMW RT, I was riding a big Suzuki, I could have easily passed him on outright speed, but on a busy A road through the traffic I was never able to get near him, just seemed to see overtakes I didn't, but none of them seemed at all risky.

[@mfpix]

Highly recommend all riders to do a Bikesafe. On your ride video the overtake at 12:30 was probably unwise as there was an entrance to a big house on the ride hand side of the road which the tractor could have pulled into without indicating, or something could have pulled out of it.

[@iainamurray]

Nice vid (shame about the dodgy overtakes!). I did my second BikeSafe course last weekend. I’d also thoroughly recommend it. Things I took from it were; use as much of the road as you need; give yourself time and space with position and speed, then the words to live by; go in slow, come out fast.

[@barryjmarling]

Great video John,was in stitches with your description of how Bruce normally rides.🤣

[@matthewday9898]

This was far more entertaining than i thought loved it chopsy !!!

[@IanTed]

Over twenty years ago did a BikeSafe course in Cardiff, best two days I’d had after a break of 20 years. Since joined the IAM and passed my Advanced Test but still learning 22 years later. Makes you a far more confident rider and safer hopefully, aim to do a refresher soon. Best advice, ‘head up, look further down the road’….

[@TheJmebe]

Yeah same, been riding similar amount of time to you. Learned some road position discipline is needed and probably my worst habit which you got pulled up for, is overtaking when there are "options'. Will definitely benefit from some Bikesafe training like this.. 👍

[@thebuyerboy]

Nice video mate. I usually talk to myself when out on the bike as I find it helps me keep alert. I am IAM trained and got a lot from your video as it really refreshed my learning,

[@SOLOMOTOUK]

Definitely worth doing these are there’s always room for improvement I’d done the police bike safe course and IAM with a F1rst pass never been in an accident but my bike has feel over a few times the last time was in a motorway service station thought I’d fully put the side stand down but me and the bike went over dis collated finger 😂😂 more people should be doing these courses definitely 👍👍🙏

[@NooBiker]

Ouchie! 😬

[@paulthetford2004]

Great insight into safe riding. We should all look to improve our standard every time we go out. As always, a very enjoyable video. Thanks.

[@savgs-ei6ch]

Great video Chops just going for those overtakes with a Cop observing you seemed like a dilemma. Every day's a school day on a bike 👍

[@ykdickybill]

You know what Mr Chops, I’m 57, ridden since I was 16 ( fizzy, DT175, X7, ZThou,Exup, XR 650 Supermoto, Tuono factory, RC8R, and now a 1200GS ) marshalled at the TT for years etc etc. Anyway, I did Bikesafe in York as I know a couple of the traffic bike lads quite well and found it addictive, so I did the I.A.M course ( had to bite my lip a few times with that lot but by and large v.good riders ) culminating with the ride out for 3 chuffing hours with a very experienced bike cop following me. By the end I was mentally shattered ! BUT, I got a 1st ( only 5% who do the test get a first….) I have to say, riding to the Police system i.e ‘ i.p.s.g.a.’ Is definitely THE way to ride ‘ spiritedly’ AND safely…….well as safe as it can be anyway.

[@mrdee1986]

My sentiments exactly, no need to bite your lip just assume that there is plenty to learn, you'd be surprised. Well done on the 1st

[@aeror115]

Some practice workshops are a must at the beginning of the season our winters are to cold, dark and to long so we are getting rusty over the off season

[@grumpsrides6074]

Definitely recommend a Bike Safe course. I've done it, and I genuinely believe, it can make you a better, safer rider. Also recommend, Biker Down. Basic emergency first aid, in the event of a motorcycle accident. Well worth doing, IMO. Good video Chops 👍

[@redtela]

Years ago, my local force offered a 2 day bikesafe. Two options, either 2days of classes and riding, or a day of that and a day of medical training (incl scene management/traffic control, how to safely remove a helmet and why, etc). It was also completely free!! Couldn't recommend it enough (I did 1 day ride, 1 day medical)

[@alanbarnes2920]

Informative, entertaining and fun vid Chops! Well worth the trip! I did a Bikesafe from the Ace Cafe in 2005..was brill and I must be due another now..I too found being followed/analysed by a police bike a challenge at first..makes you think and ride better afterwards..and not necessarily slower..just safer!

[@motor_ma77]

Great video again. Nice to see you pair behaving 😉. Love the banter 😁

[@teddd10]

Id like to mention i overtook a car im North Wales. In said car there was a dash cam. In said car there was a cooont who uploaded me over taking his car on a website called OPERATION SNAP. Now North Wales have looked at the footage and have come to the conclusion I was speeding at 114mph for 3 seconds and 70m in length....on a wide,empty,rural and open road...no danger to no one. Mold Crown Court ...I await my court date. Thats the experience I have with overtaking.

[@simonbowen6653]

Good stuff Choppsy. Winced when you overtook the tractor with the driveway looming up but we've all done it.

[@cliveadams7629]

Good old Finchingfield. Winners is not what it was, just been sold apparently. Good roads if you can negotiate the potholes.

[@carlb9009]

Cheers Chops (& Bruce), Mirror, signal maneuver. Emergency stop at the chippy! Great vid 👍

[@sugs1258]

Some excellent advice there…still laughing at Bruce throwing you under the bus before Gordi could open his mouth…13:22…”that was horrendous…” 😂😂

[@LambChopRides]

Haha yes 🤣 👍

[@robwilkie1]

Did Bike Safe years ago and then went on to RoSPA and worked up to Gold. Absolutely transformed my riding, made some great friends also and opened me up to European Touring. Can't recommend advanced training enough - either RoSPA or IAM. It makes you a far better rider. I was expecting a load of old codgers in pipes and slippers when I joined RoSPA and being told to go slower. Quite the opposite was true. Its all about making good fast - BUT SAFE- progress, Everyone should do it.

[@ddazzler]

I was encouraged by your honesty with how you rode that day: inspiring tx

[@kevinmill7965]

Position 1 2 and 3, makes sense till your in position 1 and run wide or overcook a corner and your off with no escape space....

[@debbieclegg2485]

Entertaining how nervous you were, and reassuring for the rest of us that would be equally so!! Well ridden though .. great viewing 👍

[@gixerloon]

Interesting video and ride there matey, I passed my bike test in 1979, after going to a proper training school, so that'll probably give my age away, but the first thing I did was buy the Police riding manual and an advanced riding book, and I've put into practice that advice ever since. But about 15 years ago, I met a class one bike cop, through another mate, and we went for a and I use the word "bimble" lightly, on some pretty fast A-roads and he tried to lose me, when we got to where we were headed, he patted me on the back and said "well done mate, I thought I'd lose you and couldn't, so very well done" I was very pleased by that praise, as a guy who has never really had or done any advanced training at least not formally.. perhaps despatching in London in the early 80's helped. Sadly I've just sold my most recent bike, and don't know if I'll be getting another at this moment, sad days after 45 years in the hot seat...

[@paulbridge6063]

Enjoyed your video, good to show our mistakes, nothing wrong with that, I live in Denmark, would be great if we had these courses here.

[@tomnorris1734]

As an IAM advanced riding observer it's really interesting to see other people's riding from their own point of view.

[@bern1e74]

Those fish finger sarnies at Finchingfield are epic. I’ve downed a few.

[@sambolton1970]

I hope you pulled him for having his indicator on at 18.18 min 🤣

[@paulscr]

Entertaining video on an important topic / service - very good - booked in for September.

[@raydean9330]

One the best weekends of my biking experience, Bike Safe with Warwickshire Certainly found the right wrist had more resistance to opening throttle with a police machine in the mirror Recommend this training to anyone

[@ryanmalone2681]

What I learned on this course, the Police riders handbook, and another advanced course saved my life a few times in my first 5 years of riding. Probably saved more than that, but as an experienced rider now, I don’t ever have close calls due to my defensive technique (don’t read that as slow). This and the police handbook should be mandatory in my view. It’s gold dust. Edit: *gold dust

[@georgecromar4094]

I'd recommend you do a full advanced course. You will improve a lot😊😊

[@mathewbarker9930]

Not all us IAM lot speak through our noses although some speak out their arses on occasion. I don't blame you for sticking to Bike Safe, playing with the big boys isn't for everyone😂 Great vid though.

[@parf2665]

Wouldn't mind having a go at that. I learnt a lot by watching the seaflyfisher. Think he was an advance rider who commentates on his rides. His tips came in really handed when doing the NC500. Would highly recommend subscribing to his channel.

[@jasonking4209]

Watching this video makes me appreciate the freedom here in the US. Although we are having ours eroded away here too.

[@daviddickson3181]

One of my pet hates is people talking with their hands while riding/driving. Someone once waved me across in front of them when I was turning right into a side road but it transpired he was just talking on the phone and gesticulating 🤣

[@Anytwowheels2024]

Love the exchanges between you and Bruce and it was interesting to see the different editing and commentary of you two vagabonds! Although I am in Aussie, I will look for the technical videos you watched, presuming there is no “secret handshake “ to gain access!

[@MatNewtonTrio]

I had to stop myself going for gaps. Apparently I had no major faults, just got a few tips on road positioning in corners.. Very different riding in town. Did ask if I could ride the RR the copper was on but no joy 😂 All I all I think a brilliant day with some great tips, even if it’s only to remind you about keeping yourself safe. Love the husky.

[@keithsbitsandpieces]

Excellent vid Chopsey :) Great follow up to Bruces one , Ive been riding for 47 years and there was lots to learn when i did one in sept, So tempted to do another one

[@davidherringgo]

Great video. Chopsey. Has me wanting to sign up. Lots of skills to being a safe rider .Thanks

[@750vfrman]

Should i continue? Passed my test in 1962! IAM about 10 years ago. Since then just a handful of miles per year, not ideal. Wiped the cobwebs of my beloved VFR 750 (new to now 28 years) not to mention my own spiders. Returned yesterday from my round the world trip, well, Portland/Weymouth. Just 300 miles over three days, survived but not happy with my riding. Bike Safe would have had a field day, many A4 pages of negative views, me thinks. Thanks Lamb Chops for your timely video. At 80 I will be booking a refresher course of some sort. Eye opener about your 3 overtakes. I puckered up with the Tractor/trailer, thought the wide entrance on right was the farm entrance. The other two seemed (& still do) fine by me.

[@riderramblings]

That pub (the Fox Inn) next to where you had lunch does good lunches. Some lovely lanes around that area

[@pcarts232]

Good riding mate , I’d defo agree with the overtaking part especially in the countryside, driveways gaps in the hedges etc gotta be careful ride safe mate

[@2LXCKYY]

Apart from the advanced training, each one missed checks which you do on a mod 2, quite funny to watch even the copper not check

[@drewwalker340]

Nice video Chops! And its round my local area, so good to see!

[@lynsmith1096]

Great video Lamb Chop and good to see you and Bruce behaving.

[@Satch_riding]

Nice to see you riding on the roads I ride… I can’t say ive gone that slow down them 😂 but it’s cool to see my area your riding 🙌

[@bananabrooks3836]

Overtake tips were a reminder for me that l dont know it all, l hope l do take note of junctions looming ahead, but maybe not driveways so much. Also "Reasons not to overtake" mindset duly noted.

[@jimsadler8704]

Many thanks for a very informative and educational vid, Chops.

[@JEmmertz]

I can easily understand the feeling of nervousness, even if you have been doing it all for eons. It's a totally different kettle of fish when someone is about to judge you. Truly useful course nevertheless.

[@matt-zr6zs]

This has been a fantastic vid , made me do more lifesavers , the way people drive today scare the s@@@out of me ..

[@Motorcycle_Mike]

Enjoyed this buddy, I’ve been fully bike licensed here in Canada for 25 years myself. We don’t have anything quite like this, especially with the police. In fact I try to avoid them if you know what I mean. Haha. But found it fascinating, and helpful! I’m sure I’ve picked up bad habits along the way 🙈🙈 Great edit as usual 🔝🎬🎥👍🏻

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks Mike 👍

[@dougalmcdougal286]

I did my advanced last year, via Roadcraft Nottingham, part sponsored by Derbyshire police. Passed & was really happy with the result. Now I'm a much more confident rider, took a while for the learning to be absorbed. I'll likely go back in a few years & do it again. Let the teaching of the lessons sink in, you will be a better rider from it. There are no perfect riders, just riders continually learning.

[@LambChopRides]

Yes does take sometime for the advise to sink in, now looking to maybe take things further 👍

[@mikeyardley9463]

Really useful, Chops, thank you.

[@alwarren2653]

Chopsie, I think you overtook when there was a junction on the right during one of your Tuono 660 reviews which I noticed at the time. I've done IAM and RoSPA in the car but not yet on the bike, but I found the insurers that offered a discount were more expensive and I could get insurance cheaper elsewhere without any discount for passing the IAM or RoSPA tests. The Govt. could 'Nudge' drivers to take advanced tests by waiving the Insurance Premium Tax on car and motorcycle insurance for those that have passed the advanced tests.

[@big500]

Last February I went for an overtake with a lay-by on my right.. without any warning the car I was overtaking swung right into that lay-by. Result was a broken femur in 6 places, and a smashed knee resulting in me needing a total knee replacement… 40 years of riding experience and although I made a legal move I just didn’t expect the car to swerve into a lay-by on the opposite side of the road☹️☹️

[@Chrisfls1]

Hope you’re OK. One of my fellow Observers in my local IAM club is an ex ambulance driver (who’s done a lot of “tidying up” and he says any side junction or opening on the right is very simply a “no” for an overtake). I now look a bit tame on long straights when there’s a hint of a house, gate, etc.. hope it hasn’t put you off and you view it as lesson learnt and glad you wanted to share for others’ benefit.

[@LambChopRides]

Oh nasty hope you OK now 👍

[@big500]

@@Chrisfls1 Cheers Chris…. I’ve got a brand new XDiavel sat in the garage waiting for me to get enough strength and range of movement to ride it👍 In the meantime I bought a new Forza 350 scooter yesterday, so I can get out and about with my mates..Never had a scooter before, so looking forward to it🤔😎

[@big500]

@@LambChopRides Getting there slowly mate👍

[@hyperthunk]

Worst thing about riding in London is half the drivers are fecking stoned, you can smell it wafting out of the driver's windows. 🤦🏻

[@Crosshatch1212]

I'm wanting to do this this yr hopefully after a 3 yr break .got the bike all working brill , redone breaks new discs tyres ,and the master cylinder for some reason just wasn't feeling good on the pull.so bosh rebuilt lot better .like the ch ,

[@Highlandwolf2sas]

Good wee insight to the bike safe 👍... Can I ask what was up with the pulsing blurr on the helmet cam 🤔... Just wondering if it was a particular setting. Thanks for sharing 😊🥃🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@rcraven1013]

The 2 second rule or rather the more than the 2 second rule, cos at speed higher than 40 mph on should give it at least 3 seconds behind any other vehicle. 2 seconds minimum is good around town but rather than think about it and forever counting it just stay one lamp lost apart. They are approx, the distance to stop in at speeds usually up to 40 mph. On faster out of town road then double that lamp post to two and that will be the safe distance up to 60 mph its simplesss.. easy and safe. ...

[@redtela]

I grew up riding bikes in fields, skate parks and quite often, running away from plod. One day I went to overtake a heavy, I screwed it up, and as soon as I was off-side and along-side the trailer, I noticed another heavy coming the other direction. I was extremely lucky to survive that encounter, and decided that was the point I should learn to ride properly. I've done BikeSafe and a few others, highly recommended. I now volunteer to go for a ride & pass on my understanding of RoadCraft to anyone that happens to be near me, if they want to. I don't teach - I offer my opinion, and equally, I don't charge for it either (I just love riding). Loved your distance when you were 3rd in the lineup. When you say "not sure what the speed limit is" - follow traffic in front of you for 30 secs, any street lights? Any repeater signs telling you anything? If no, NSL rules apply. Good overtake on the van (but missed a lifesaver). Good catch on your space when stopped at the roadworks - if you're aware of it, you'll fix it over time. White car overtake - double take in the mirrors, but no life saver. Tractor - very brief lifesaver, but there was one - not sure I would have done the overtake until after the driveway on the right, but still. Nice that the copper picked up on those. The van overtake had a nearside junction, not an off side - answer there would be to ride off-side for a while, hang back, then go.

[@NooBiker]

Good and thorough analysis. I'm volunteering with the IAM also.

[@NooBiker]

Nice one, Chops! Funnily enough, I'm doing the same BikeSafe on my Kawasaki Z1000 (same starting point and I expect same route/destination) this Thursday. The BSMC is kind of "my patch" as I ride past it on my daily commute. Always find it useful to get some feedback during the workshop, although I'm "one of those" who's done the IAM. I'm not sure what you meant by that comment, though. I think advanced riders get a very undeserved bad rep. In my local group there are very few GSs, no pipes or slippers, all sorts of bikes from rat bikes through 250cc, scooters through to Hypers, Busas, Tuonos... all sorts! And all bloody quick and smooth 👍

[@peetee5229]

Interesting the Hendon shuffle to be in neutral and covering the rear brake when stopped, I have DCT so a bit easier must remember to select neutral in future.

[@thedriverofallthings]

I remember that cafe :) London bikers used to do the breakfast club run down that way

[@john25992]

In fairness, the rozzer makes some good points

[@georgecromar4094]

Great video, really good camera quality too!

[@solad3]

Brilliant video. I have my course / ride out this weekend 🫣

[@ads3533]

Heart broken you called that east of London, us Essex chaps won't like that 🤣😉

[@NooBiker]

Well it is to the east of London...

[@nokneedownian8521]

Haha you grassing bruce up ,love it