First police interview of Jennifer and James Crumbley played during trial of Jennifer Crumbley

[@libertyna933]

I trust the man with thirty years experience that the mom's behavior was atypical.

[@mirkawessels5978]

Can defense speak in a normal tone? Her emotional raised tone is like fingernails on chalkboard

[@KelleCochran]

Most important meeting of her life and is scrolling on her phone the whole time? She looks mad and inconvenienced. 🤦‍♀️ unbelievable

[@Zzx75]

She was texting her lover

[@CharleneDudley]

Yep exactly.

[@jamespeek8682]

Stop speaking for how she felt period. Everyone reacts differently to trauma. I would hate for any of you to be on a jury, because you would convict people based on your convoluted opinions. Detectives lie, prosecutors, lie and witnesses lie. There's a whole gaggle of so-called "patriots" that have their young children at the range, much younger than this shooter teaching them to shoot!

[@mynameiseve.1]

At least James is experiencing some sort of emotion, she has zero!!

[@Carol_Sweet_1]

What a cold mother, no wonder he was driven to do this! Everyone needs love from their mother! I shake my head!

[@privatename2648]

Are you saying he was MADE to do this? Parents are terrible, could have STOPPED it, even ENABLED it, but hell no he wasn't driven to it and needs to be exactly where he is. The system will make sure he gets any meds he needs.

[@HostileWorkplaceEXPOSED]

​@@privatename2648only the guilty are so triggered

[@alysonkavan1207]

Wow Jennifer is on her phone like the entire time and doesn’t even comfort James when he cries…

[@adamquinn3235]

I was thinking the same thing: he’s a lot more broken up about it than she is.

[@kimberleeturner8475]

She was looking for info in her sons behavior that the detective asked for. She found the pic he drawed and she tried to zoom in on it and show detective.

[@julieblaha4960]

Is she scrolling or deleting?

[@jewelzb1402]

@@kimberleeturner8475 “Drew” is the correct past tense, “Draw” is present tense.

[@privatename2648]

@jewel, bitchy comment.

[@soholauren970]

The audio was horrible. I can barely understand anything they’re saying.

[@cynthiaguarino2016]

The first thing that I noticed is the fact that everyone is pulled up to the table except the mother. She is noticably distancing herself from the other three people in the room as if she wants nothing to do with any of this.

[@mad7fisher]

Her body language is off. The dad's body language looks correct but her with her legs crossed, sitting back. That's an odd body language, given what she's supposed to be going through - & the chapstick for the lips? I wouldn't even be able to remember. I had lips if people were telling me my son had just murdered his classmates.

[@lovabledork23]

She did not want to set her phone and leave it! She was definitely trying to do a quick sweep of what was in her phone

[@bobsmith1101]

Audio quality is CRAP. At least have an accurate CC.

[@ksc743]

I'm on my phone and can't hear a thing. I don't even know why I'm watching this😅

[@a.downing2791]

She is ice cold. Dad was an idiot and a lousy dad, but I believe he loved his son and felt very bad. Mom is only upset because this screws up her life. She mentions that in an email exchange with her lover.

[@lesleyhughes3174]

And she has the nerve to try to appear all surprised at this interview

[@ADZLOVE]

OMGosh 🤯 MOTHER SCROLLING THROUGH PHONE ⁉⁉⁉ What could possibly be more important than the meeting she was currently in ⁉⁉⁉

[@robertblauner7680]

This mother of the year is a snob wannabe, just look at her entitled attitude..and why don't these two amature detectives take her phone away? WTF?...LOCK HER UP!

[@mangos2888]

Deleting the friend finder app and her messages in facebook!

[@janbouchard6699]

She is so cold. The father looks genuinely upset. She doesn’t look like the same person on trial.

[@kimberlycornelius7911]

She's mad son didn't kill himself now she got to deal with this mess

[@parthenocarpySA]

Probably a very accurate take

[@Neet4474]

Yup🙏🏽

[@kristineanderson6167]

why are they letting her use her phone this entire time? SO DISRESPECTUL of her as well...

[@LauraLittleton-y7z]

She could not look more bored and unamused in this police interview.

[@mad7fisher]

Mom's body language was completely closed off when she was facing her son - arms crossed against her chest, legs crossed. the dad was leaning in with his legs open like he wanted to communicate with the kid - but the mother. - There's a huge wall between the mother & the son. 😞 There's a total disconnect between the two of them. Yes, the mother is upset, but this is her son, but there's, no maternal feelings there. You can tell a lot by body language, you really can

[@taliabarth9532]

I mean I would be very angry with my child but we are all different! I personally would of put my anger aside and hugged my child

[@mad7fisher]

@@taliabarth9532 same. Because we're mothers first, this protective feeling would be there first. because of the trauma and then the anger and the questions would come but she's completely closed off from this kid. When she entered the interrogation room in 1st police interrogations, she sat down, crossed her legs and leaned back in the chair. That's some really strange body language

[@JaneDoe-tr5xy]

I'm sure she's pissed at her son for what he did. I would be too! I'd be crying for the victims!

[@mad7fisher]

@@JaneDoe-tr5xy yeah definitely

[@cristineconnell7803]

I suspect he was neglected with motherly affection from before he was born! He was starving for maternal affection for sure! His Dad seems very ignorant & checked out prior to event! But he does actually show caring! She shows caring for herself!

[@heatherwalker1616]

I don’t know who is more incompetent, the judge or the defense attorney

[@mangos2888]

They're both racing for the bottom, aren't they 😂

[@CapitalCityKate]

This defense attorney is...not good.

[@mazza_razzza]

You are...correct!

[@jrileyc21]

She's terrible!

[@clakams]

Must be her 1st case

[@mazza_razzza]

@@clakams Copy/paste for you.... "Michigan Lawyer Shannon Smith is part of the defense team representing disgraced sports doctor Larry Nassar, who pleaded guilty to 10 counts of criminal sexual conduct in two state courts. In his first sentencing, the court heard from more than 150 people who accused him of abuse."

[@Laveluvcrew]

Wow! You're being told that 4 people are dead, and your son is the shooter and this is how you react! She's constantly messing and looking at her phone. She is acting combative with the detective, almost to the point as if they're annoying her. Geez, I can't imagine why the cops and DA started looking at these parents cross eyed. Also, I love the look on the detection face whenever the defense attorney starts talking. It's as if he's thinking... Is she a real lawyer!? 😂

[@Cootiequeen]

This defense attorney sheesh! The worst.

[@Pro-Deo]

She def isn't up for this case. She lacks confidence and ability to succeed for her clients. Jennifer will prob get 7-10 years, only do 4. Same with James.

[@observationsfromthefringe9048]

Did anyone realize that Jennifer is sitting 2 feet from the police, deleting things from her phone over and over? Maybe she was feeling guilty about something.

[@AliceA333]

When did they say she's deleting things? The audio on mine isn't great, was it said during this vid?

[@gmimi2]

Are you assuming something?!

[@observationsfromthefringe9048]

@@AliceA333 If you watch the video and pay attention to what she is doing, you will see her doing it.

[@AliceA333]

@@observationsfromthefringe9048 I'll have to play it again. I stream to a 60 inch TV & couldn't see her phone screen, but I wasn't looking. The cellebrite machine will still pull the things she deleted when police diagnose her phone though, so we'll have to see if they say she deleted anything.

[@y2ksurvivor]

​@@AliceA333if you've ever had an android phone and deleted things often enough, you would be able to tell by how the windows in her screen are moving in response to her finger swipes. Those are indeed deletion swipe movements and that's how Android phones respond when deleting.

[@Jenna-ky8dl]

Both the judge and defense lawyer are incompetent, it’s embarassing

[@jackiemorris5686]

Why does it sound like a subway is running through the room for half of this?

[@Pinkricaan]

The video of Ethan melting down with the spit guard over his head, is so effing heartbreaking...he keeps screaming over and over "..you coulda stopped this/why didn't you stop me?" to God and his mother. I just wanna give him a hug... i wish he had another adult he trusted to talk to... locking him out the night before bc he was hallucinating is evil... they shoulda stayed up with him thru the night... i hope this judge gives her good ol lashing when shes inevitably found guilty

[@nikeeNZ]

I couldn't hear very well but if that was my kid I would of straight away hugged him and told I loved him always. Hearing him repeatedly calling out "I love you, I love you, I love you" is heartbreaking. I wanted to give him a hug too. This is tragic on so many levels 🙁

[@Pinkricaan]

@@nikeeNZ they are saying that was the father repeating i love you and from the other room... also in the video I referenced he was saying "I'm so sorry/Please k¡ll me" to the officers... I hope a parent of any of the deceased come to a point of healing and forgiveness and start a relationship with this boy. Therapeutic on both ends and thats the only type of parental attn he can only get now and needs. I really wish they sent him to a criminal mental health facility

[@Catfluff521]

He should have been taken to an ER when he was delusional. He was having a psychotic break and they threw him out of the house. I hope she’s convicted as charged.

[@Catfluff521]

I can’t really make out what they are saying g in this video. But why the hell is she on her phone?!?!?!

[@Pinkricaan]

@@Catfluff521 so do i... I wish he had the wherewithal to go to the hospital on his own and telling them whats going on mentally him being a minor with no parental consent would not be a barrier in him being kept and treated. I wish he had another adult he trusted. That poor boy collapsed at work, banged his head and got up and kept on trucking like he's used to no one helping him. I know he committed the act but my heart breaks for him so much. He looks unloved and like he gets no affection. I would have been on my knees hugging my son when they brought me in the room and hes handcuffed to a railing. I dont care of they told me not to, thats the last day they saw him, last chance to give him encouraging words and affection. Im sorry I'm rambling but this case p¡sses me off!!!!

[@lesleyhughes3174]

Hope some other channel has better Sound than this

[@BH-1964]

Once she asks for lawyer the meeting should have ended!

[@lastjob2011]

Fun fact: When the honorable parents learned their 16 year old son was arrested, they wd $4000, and drove to downtown Detroit (40 minute drive). Their friend had a warehouse, and they hid there for 2 days before they were caught.

[@yennyku5240]

Yeah it's right by utopia gardens! They got amazing cannabis 😆

[@Pro-Deo]

they were getting social media death threats, angry groups of people were at their house and they were scared. they withdrew all the money they could because they knew they needed to hire lawyers.

[@CJ-ni1mu]

I'd like to know what she was deleting on her phone during the interview and who she was texting at that time. The audio in the interview is horrible and hard to understand. Mrs. didn't seem that concerned. Mr. was definitely more emotional.

[@CapitalCityKate]

​@@Pro-Deo The part that confuses me is, why take out $4,000 cash to hire a lawyer? I mean, why would they need cash? Why would that be one of the first things they did? Especially, since now a days, nearly everyone has cards and money transfer apps. Looking at the situation in its totality, it certainly does seem right. Doesn't make sense to me, but maybe it's just me.

[@Pro-Deo]

@@CapitalCityKateThey knew they'd need attorneys. They didn't want their assets frozen. Assets including their bank accounts. Lawyers gotta get paid too and how is one suppose to pay them if they have no access to their bank accounts? Lawyers accept cash. No lawyer in their right mind wouldn't. Make sense now?

[@nobodieshome_]

This judge is horrible!

[@maritzafernandez5218]

Agree w/ you she is very bias👎😡

[@MrFrance97]

Unruly court room...judge and defense are just dumb

[@jamesschwartz3837]

I can’t understand much at all. Very poor audio quality.

[@ItsWhatever24]

she didn't say I love you back right away and that was probably the last straw.

[@Neet4474]

This was a sacrifice that went terribly wrong. Prayers going up for everyone involved especially the children. 🙏🏽

[@letolethe3344]

A "sacrifice"? What are you talking about?

[@Neet4474]

@@letolethe3344 if u know u no

[@kimthreadgold2755]

She's on her phone how rude. Who would be more important then the police after her son murdered 4 people.

[@mangos2888]

Cleaning up your phone! Deleting your Friend Finder app! 😂

[@AA-cp8ry]

Boy this detective looks Ike he is ready for a major thrombolyctic event. He looks very ill. Sad.

[@robertblauner7680]

Nailed it! Best comment! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂👍

[@laceyzembles9799]

Look, she's not going to win any mother of the year awards. She obviously is distracted, and did not make her son a priority. As sad as it sounds, there's probably a lot of moms and dads out there like that. I just don't understand how this directly correlates to manslaughter. I don't think based on the evidence that I heard in trial that she knew that this was going to happen, or that she had a reasonable belief to think that this was going to happen. I think she absolutely should've noticed some red flags, but I think kids also are really good about hiding the severity of their mental health sometimes. What I'm getting at, as I don't think she's guilty of manslaughter, I think she's guilty of being a shitty mom.

[@MP-up8zl]

When being such a shitty mom results in your son killing 4 people then yeah, you are guitly of manslaughter.

[@Venusfly72378]

The math worksheet Ethan wrote on the day of the shooting says very clearly, "help me". The parents should have taken him straight from the school meeting to Common Ground to have him evaluated.

[@MP-up8zl]

When you are such a negligent and shitty parent that your kid shoots up a school? Yeah, you absolutely are guilty of invol manslaughter.

[@parthenocarpySA]

The jury foreperson explained it very succinctly if you at all care to understand the reasoning behind the conviction

[@jackiemorris5686]

Basically the jury foreperson said it was because Jennifer was the last one with the gun and she didn't secure it.

[@ToniOnGame]

Their physical looks change a lot in 2 years, also they still looks energetic in this interview

[@cubsfan1622000]

How did she she gain so much weight in prison? Was it intentional?

[@peaceblossom9636]

@@cubsfan1622000Was curious too, esp when she had asked her Dad (I think) to find out how many calories there was in a BP&J and Bologna sandwich 🙄

[@vodnurse5702]

I’ve always heard the food is so awful in prison, she must have really liked it.

[@Englishroserebecca]

@@cubsfan1622000I’ve read in a few articles that stress can make u gain a lot of weight. It affects the hormones or something. Not a medical person just stating what I’ve read about weight loss and gain.

[@Dharmarenee]

They don’t have microphones in this courtroom.

[@kimthreadgold2755]

You cannot hear anything.

[@daniellamorello2766]

Did they later release what exactly she was doing on her phone that whole time? They could easily find out. I think it would be interesting to know what.

[@kimthreadgold2755]

Why does everyone talk loud except the judge . She talks so quietly and it's so frustrating.

[@Venusfly72378]

Too bad it sounds like there's a jet engine in the background. I can only really hear them when they speak loudly. I wish there were subtitles.

[@jasminefrichtl806]

I cant hear what their saying on video

[@Cptkarma6]

Did the say do we need a lawyer & the interrogator continues?? It was hard to understand. He may have said it’s up to you but then continued to interrogate. Just curious. ✌🏻

[@madreep]

So they lawyered up right away?

[@meansnowflake]

She did, but James said "I think we should talk to them".

[@gmimi2]

Everyone should definitely not talk to cops and ask for a lawyer right away.

[@madreep]

@gmimi2 at that point they were not being investigated or even suspected of committing a crime, so I thought it was odd that they would want to lawyer up so quickly.

[@antheawitts1121]

Think her sentence will run concurrently?!!! As I understand- that’s what the guild lines state!!! 😮

[@angelac3788]

Why is the judge asking questions for the prosecutor? This was a mess!

[@edbregin2180]

Shifty audio 2021??? WTF

[@maritzafernandez5218]

Can someone here tell me why the parents are in jail? Or direct me were I can find info from the beginning please? Thanks 🤔

[@Zzx75]

On KZbin look at the prosecution closing statement. It is an excellent recap of the prosecutions case.

[@shannon9218]

They were charged with involuntary manslaughter when the evidence came out that they had bought the gun for their son a few days prior to the shooting and did not secure it in the home. They knew the son was severely depressed, had just lost his only friend, had no hobbies, and was suffering hallucinations. He asked the parents for help and therapy and they just ignored him. The woman was just found guilty. I'm curious as to how the husbands trial will go. She was not sympathetic at all, the dad seems a bit more but we will see. They also were both having affairs, and when the school called the mom to tell her to come get her son because he was drawing pictures of guns and people being shot, but she said she couldn't get the time of work. Then she met up with her affair partner instead. 😬 It was bad.

[@maritzafernandez5218]

Thanks 👌☺️

[@mangos2888]

There are so many videos that show the process that happened that lead to this trial. Just google the Crumbley's

[@lauriedelorme6733]

This was a mess. Didn’t know who was talking, who was answering. Wth is the mother doing on her cell the entire time??

[@lisaawild]

She is deleting stuff off her phone.

[@bakingnana9740]

I am glad she’s got jail time, look at her, how rude scrolling on her phone whilst being interviewed, she not the slightest bit sad that her son has gunned down 4 innocent kids and injured a lot more. The dad seems distraught but not Jennifer, she got a shock when found guilty, what a horrible woman and mother

[@derrickruffin5479]

Mrs. Crumbley's body language does very little for her defense, actually quite the opposite.

[@letolethe3344]

Neither parent said a word or showed any emotion sitting there with their son (until the father started crying on the way out) except some tension in their posture and defensiveness in the mother's body language (folded arms). No tears. No attempts to talk to him. No attempts to touch or reach him physically. No shouting or anger. Sitting there in silence as if they're riding next to him on a bus.

[@alysonkavan1207]

Yah took me forever to get the verbal of the detectives talking to the crumbleys

[@RainbowPyramid]

Why is the lawyer so angry? She is not helping her client at all. She appears to be DESPERATE to fight with the prosecutor rather than arguing the case.

[@jasminefrichtl806]

Yeah- my friend Erin laughed when her brother died cuz thats how she delt with it she said he is stupid to inhale gasoline to get high but before he died they were buddies always hanging together, but jennifer crumbly in general seems to consistatly emotionally neglect her son before & after he did the shooting- yes jennifer hands cop a picture to help the case but that was one photo the rest of time she was on her phone & not showing any photos

[@eveandthebird]

Where's the message she sent him, 'Don't do it"? She failed to mention it in this interview.

[@julieblaha4960]

Wow! Liars right from the get-go! She is despicable.

[@ipekseda3087]

$4000 for a lawyer? That's like 6 hours of lawyer time.

[@OhPunky]

The defense lawyer is annoying as hell

[@cindearbuckle6074]

Wow that’s still your child couldn’t they even hug him !

[@ho11yfoxx]

I think walking into that room just after finding out what he's done, you might look at him and not recognise him as your son during that moment.

[@peaceblossom9636]

Nothing could keep me from grabbing and holding my flesh and blood no matter what he did, especially knowing that might be the very last time. I can still be angry. How can any decent parent not feel like they failed in some way and would have testified that they would have done “nothing” different for their only child at this point 🤯

[@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage]

This judge needs to be taken off the bench. Wow

[@drucilla56]

The look on the detective's face every time the defense objects.

[@liamelendez8190]

She is so detached from her son.

[@maggie7660]

Why isn’t the school being held accountable, they, had the gun at school and they read his journal

[@maggie7660]

They are trained to know these things

[@mareetorrumbarry5155]

Parents didn't inform school that he had been given a gun..journal had pictures of gun but no statement that he owned a gun

[@GlowingMpd]

The audio is so bad even the close captioning can’t make it out. What a waste.

[@adamquinn3235]

If it was irrelevant, then you wouldn’t object.

[@nikandbdog]

What is she doing on that phone?!

[@leighmcelmurray3398]

The defense lawyer is so annoying

[@Ryan_404]

Cant hear shit

[@bobsmith1101]

Yes, ALL these Police interviews have horrible audio quality. As important as they are...

[@leighmcelmurray3398]

I put off watching this trial until now

[@debraalfano526]

This is a very different defendant than we are seeing at the trial. You can definitely tells who runs that house!

[@Emolga6274]

The judge would not allow Ethan to take the stand . If Ethan took the stand and said he picked the locked and took the gun or that he hid his mental illness from his mother , that would have ended this sham of a trial . Very curious how judge didn’t allow the most important person in this trial. Now I think Ethan attorney said he would plead the fifth if he took the stand . That’s gotta be a lie. Why would he do that . He’s already in jail for life . If he can save his parents he would Do it . Remember he texted his mom “I love u” on day of shooting . This whole case has been shady .

[@angelac3788]

Ethan is appealing his sentence.

[@ColleenEgleston-ew7oe]

Worst attorney EVER! She should be disbarred, she’s so immature.

[@sheainfinitypaints9533]

I genuinely don't understand why he wasn't taken out of school that morning after finding that drawing.

[@Janejones233]

Did this mom love her child at all?

[@celticwarrior777]

Cant hear this whats being said

[@mandsophie]

I wonder how much these parents wanted to be in the spotlight. Well, the consequence was verdicts of manslaughter for both and jail time. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tumbleweed2240]

This guy looks fed up 😂

[@hankdieselify]

If he knew it was wrong and wanted help, why did he still do it?

[@drhyshek]

The father is devastated. The mother is ice.

[@mikereed8181]

I had to put this on subtitles, i couldn't understand anything, i thought they was speaking Chinese

[@mirkawessels5978]

The defense attorney is a joke

[@CloudySunflowerfield]

Man Jennifer really blew up in body size from the beginning of this nightmare to the present. Seems that the men usually get buff and the women let themselves turn into blimps.

[@MarcyJ2F]

So if you ever get arrested, it’s nice to know that you’d prefer to go into a jail cell with a buff man.

[@CloudySunflowerfield]

lol, well yes considering I am a woman, I definitely would prefer a buff man then a blimpy woman.

[@mangos2888]

Thank you for commenting on the literal least-important aspect of this case

[@MarcyJ2F]

@@CloudySunflowerfield oh ok, it seemed like such a mans comment.

[@vodnurse5702]

Boy, they love their Chapstick, don’t they?

[@Angelofloveandhappiness]

I wonder if she bought him a gun bc she knew he was having these issues and she wanted to see what he'd do. Probably to get rid of him bc he was a nuisance to her.

[@KyongG1970]

Couldn’t hear a damn thing.

[@celticwarrior777]

Cop departments need to fix their audio. Time time again their recordings are a disgrace bad. Bug some decent equipment for love of G

[@amiek9269]

I wonder if she was deleting messages etc on her phone. 😡 She was just found guilty wary Feb. right verdict by the jury!!

[@melb2258]

Yes!!!

[@OhPunky]

She was probably deleting texts during this

[@ColleenEgleston-ew7oe]

She is a horrible mother. She’s more to blame than the child.

[@bobsmith1101]

The Def girl is sinking the ship!

[@kingduran007]

Defense attorney is horrible

[@greicyt]

The parents are definitely at fault but the school too , he draw pictures of a gun , he should have been suspended and not be able to come back to schoo until a psychiatrist would approved it , they did not protected the students , somebody did not do their job , they should be hold accountable too 😢

[@aaronjoseph6650]

Did anyone hear what Ethan said at the end?

[@annak399]

I heard her ask him why (after she was just going to walk out) and he says "cuz I did." That's what I heard at least.

[@jodievukmir3187]

And Mom only asked after she looked up and saw the camera... SMH

[@jeweliedee4299]

I can't help but like Harry. He has guts. He reminds me of Diana, who wanted to have a real life and fought ferociously for that. Is he perfect? No, he is highly imperfect like all of us. Of course, I am American and I cannot begin to understand why GB wants a monarchy in the first place. It seems very archaic to me.

[@maggie7660]

I think it’s a witch hunt

[@Zzx75]

Det.Joe Brian looks like he cuts through any BS. I'd hate to be sitting across the table from him.