FIRST REACTION to PARADISE LOST (Darker Thoughts) 🤔👊🎤

My first introduction to the Death-Doom Genre!!! Loved this Reacting to Paradise Lost killed it with Darker Thoughts.
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[@everett880]

The most beautiful thing about this band is their songwriting. The meaning behind this song is the struggle of not giving in to the darker thoughts when the world around you falls apart. Really befits the current situation of our world, with the pandemic and all.

[@jccasts]

110% Agreed

[@locust666av]

PLAN-demic

[@LukCPL]

Legendary band, masterful song.

[@sambremetalheadfr9136]

Thanks for Paradise Lost, often they are forgotten

[@ckay-2003]

Great song from one of the best albums of the year so far. Thank you chase for that surprise. Paradise Lost is one of my all time favorite bands

[@MikeSavoia]

Song of the year, "Obsidian" album of the year!

[@marcustidholm6775]

Paradise Lost have so many good songs. I have been a fan since the early 90. Gothic!!

[@SandraNelson063]

This is MATURE restraint. How many decades has this band been at it? This is ELEGANTLY crafted. Oh, I'm feeling all flattered and charmed now! It's like someone set out to court me in an old fashioned way. This isn't about head banging. It's more " Come sit by the fire where it's cozy and I'll tell you a story" sort of thing. I won't say no if you want to do more from this band.

[@juliettemcgee9055]

Sandra, they were formed in 1988. This song was released few months ago from their latest album, Obsidian. I like your illustration, it's how I feel too. The heavy atmospheres used in the music range from romantic to melancholy to furious and then back to romantic/melancholy again.

[@n0aimatall]

I'm a simple man, I hear paradise lost and press like. While watching I could not wait for you to reach 1:45 (5:27) of the song. 🤘 Thanks for this reaction, loving the new PL album so much!

[@samanthar1214]

I definitely want to hear more from this band! This was right up my alley 😊

[@QVIRINVS]

Try keep on the discography of Paradise Lost and Katatonia, too. It's a rare thing such an accurate analysis about music and the arrangements. I promise, the more u go deep into those 2 bands, the more u'll get heavy feelings, about atmosphere and lyrics, too.

[@DrSkeff]

Growing up in Halifax in the same age bracket as Nick and the lads I have met them several times, seen them live probably a dozen from their tape trading days and always loved them.A great call, rarely done as a band and love their diversity and bravery. Draconian Times is the killer album IMHO and also support the call for My Dying Bride, another local band who are stunning in their miserability! Edit: I also have remembered booking them for £200 to play a Uni Rock Society night I put on in the late 80s when they had just released Lost Paradise.

[@sanni4368]

Nice!! Thank you! I love Paradise Lost, I'm so happy you're checking out stuff you're not familiar with. Another really awesome death-doom band is Swallow the Sun! They're from Finland, founded in 2000. I recommend the songs Cathedral Walls and Rooms & Shadows.

[@HattemAlHajry]

Cathedral Walls is a nice recommendation. Kai, the current drummer of Nightwish, is playing here. And Annette, Nightwish's previous vocalist, is doing some nice supporting vocals for this song.

[@MomDoer-qc7iw]

Another good similar band is Woods Of Ypres

[@surfdeprived]

Paradise Lost. One of my favorite bands. It's awesome that you're willing to hit up the more obscure bands, and not just the generic reaction channel songs/bands. Amorphis started as a Death/Doom band, too. So did Within Temptation... two other bands you've covered (but later in their careers after they've moved on). Paradise Lost moved away from Death/Doom for the entire middle of their career. They only went back to it a few albums ago. The super brief version of their musical history: Death/Doom Metal: Lost Paradise (1990), Gothic (1991), Shades of God (1992), The Plague Within (2015), Medusa (2017), Obsidian (2020 - The song you heard is from this album) Goth Metallica: Icon (1993), Draconian Times (1995), Faith Divides Us (2009), Tragic Idol (2012) Goth Depeche Mode: One Second (1997), Host (1999), Believe in Nothing (2001) Depeche Mode/Metallica: Symbol of Life (2002), Self Titled (2005), In Requiem (2007)

[@sentenced03]

made my day with this i love paradise lost and what a career they have had... nick holmes is one of my favorite vocalists ever.

[@janesully5971]

Paradise Lost is such a chameleon on it's genre. Draconian Times is their mostly regarded album, but then again Host is totally different with it's electronic wibe. I love every side of the band's production.

[@janosfernandez945]

Indeed they're a band of their own, straddling between goth/doom/electronic pop and every album is a surprise. 30 years and evolving, to me they're the Rush of goth metal ;) !

[@andrewhutchinson8025]

I love the fact that paradise lost has always done their own thing and imho they have never got the flowers and recognition they deserve. Their iconic use of melody is wonderful. I know Im replying to an old video and messages but im sure the people in replying to are still to this day hardore PL fans as i am . I last saw them at sonisphere in a big marquee where the security said they were at capacity and no one else was allowed in. My missus been petite and very well spoken and mannered pleaded with them saying i was a lifelong fan and came specifically to see them ( not true) and they were still hesitant then she said it was also my birthday and it would be ruined if i didn't get to see them. They asked me if it was true and i just nodded and they said go on then After many thanks we got in and i was so glad they were spectacular and it was the best sounding id ever heard them the volume was amazing but the bass was something else and on as i die it felt like I'd gone to heaven. One of the greatest bands to ever come from this country. I loved all there different albums Inc the Depeche mode ones though shades of god is sublime and loads hate believe in nothing but i love it. Though they have done far better stuff such as icon and Draconian time's. But i bought they very first album in my early teens 15 and it hadn't been out long. Loved them ever since. The bands that have been influenced by them must be very many. I reckon Cradle of Filth must of took a bit of inspiration etc from them. Metal forever 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧👍

[@jonhorrocks8999]

On of my all time favourite bands. Lost track of how many times I've seen them over the last 25 years. Draconian Time seas the album that introduced them to me. They started off as one of the progenitors of Doom metal in the UK. The others were My Dying Bride and Anathema. In a recent interview Nightwish's Tuomas cited both Paradise Lost and My Dying Bride as influences. PL started off proper doom, then more metal, then decided to have a few albums that displayed their Sisters of Mercy / Depeche Mode influences front and centre, before getting heavier and heavier. Their newest album touches on all parts of their career - songs of every style are to be found. My Dying Bride never changed, they are still proper doom. Anathema metamorphosed into one of the most beautiful prog bands on the planet.

[@monstercookies2726]

Fun Fact: They supported Nightwish on their 2007 North American tour.

[@enormastittz7973]

Please React to Katatonia - Old Heart Falls

[@mmklassen]

Amazing. This is so great. I decided to check it out because Chase is such an amazing reactor and able to bring any song to life with his commentary. I came as part of the Nightwish Army for all of his reviews and have been discovering new music like this that is stretching or expanding the music genres I never thought I’d enjoy.

[@mozsab]

I saw this tour in Orlando. I was expecting an epic show as these are two of my favorite bands. Was blown away by PL and unimpressed with Annette. Luckily, I saw NW in Orange County like the third show they ever did with Floor.

[@MikeSavoia]

That was a great tour!! Posted a photo from that yesterday!!! facebook.com/SavoiaPhotographyLive/photos/a.10156815001197611/10157511554497611/

[@GiotheGhreat]

Ugggh nightwish i had to deal with their fans in the line nobody knew about PL 🤦🏻‍♂️😆

[@bashiel]

One of the best albums in a very long time imho, and one of their best, and I've followed them since 1991! The new album is like a return to their old sound, but they're combining a lot of different sound from their full discography, which make it an exceptional introduction to them!

[@zynius]

The Doom metal genre is basically defined by a slow heavy melody, low tuned guitars, paired with heavy, slow-ish drum beat. Also Paradise Lost are great, and they have explored many different styles.

[@vincentbeau6742]

Many very important European bands of the last 25 years are unknown in the USA: Paradise Lost is an example. In the same doom death style, the other fundamental group is My Dying Bride: their albums from the 90s are masterpieces. Listen to The Cry of Manking for example. They are still rotating and have recent news. Merci pour tes vidéos !

[@Covenantt666]

So excited to see you react to Paradise Lost! Please check out Shadow Kings from their 1995 album Draconian Times.

[@mozsab]

My all time favorite PL song!!

[@culturemachines]

Thanks for this one Chase, they were my Icon 👍

[@brunowilliam7529]

Great reaction! The new paradise lost record is awesome, i am happy someone with as much knowledge as you finally reacts to them :)

[@KeeperOfKale222]

Your reaction videos are the best because it's a musical lesson. I notice the same subtle things but don't always know how they do some of them.

[@ChaseCarneson]

🙏🙏🙏

[@chilly2go]

Hi Chase! I was one who sent out this request and have been hoping you would check them out so thank you for the awesome reaction! If you want to explore the album more I suggest Ravenghast or if you want to explore their extensive back catalog the official video for "Faith Divides Us, Death Unites Us" is one of my personal favorites. The band is so underrated I'm happy that you took the time for this reaction. Thank you!

[@ne.laser_jon]

Thank you for requesting this. I’m going to be listening though all their music. Check out Wolfheart. I think you might like them. They’re genre is sometimes referred to as ‘winter metal’ because of the cold atmospheric feel they put into their sound. Different but similar to this 👍🏼🤘🏼

[@chilly2go]

@@ne.laser_jon Thanks for the recommendation, I will check them out. Paradise Lost is interesting because they have changed their sound several times, I hope you enjoy listening to them.

[@jccasts]

Sent him more🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🌊🌊🌊🌊

[@cristiansassi6348]

Tragic Idol is a Master piece

[@jessicakoster2543]

What a fun trip down memory lane. Draconian times is still a favourite of mine. If the doom/death genre piqued your interest, there are two more bands that belong with this. My dying bride and Anathema. Otherwise known as the Peaceville Three. These three bands are basically responsible for the rise of doom/death.

[@richardgoddard37]

Anathema have covered a multitude of styles. Probably nearer prog these days, but still epic. Fantastically talented band.

[@jessicakoster2543]

@@richardgoddard37 I know, they are one of my favourite bands. Their musical evolution is amazing. And they are the absolute masters of putting emotions into words and music.

[@chefhildy]

Oh Lord, these Guys got me to the Metal Genre back in the early 90th, would be cool to hear some old stuff from them here on the channel. "As I die" or "Enchantment".

[@TheButterflyChaos]

OooOoooh first time I've seen someone react to Paradise Lost. Seen them live 3 Times. So great!

[@TheButterflyChaos]

Faith divides us - death unites us is a really Good next step

[@calaveth]

I'm a fan. Doom metal is my wheel house.

[@carloslopes4853]

One of my favorite bands of all time. And very diverse.

[@Vegmart]

Thank you Chase You are one hell of a guy You have discovered the masters of Gothic ... They have pretty nice heavy songs and yes they have discovered through the years other paths as well Some people didn't like it... but till now every album they have brought is great in their own way .... Great reaction and well If you want a more Older song .. Try... Paradise Lost - As i Die , it's from the time MTV was about music ... and if you want a more poprock like songs listen to Paradise Lost - Say just words or Paradise Lost - Mouth ... Paradise Lost - Erased and you can hear how versatile this band can play ... Although From their new Album Ghosts would also give you another feeling ... As to me their latest album is all new songs but listens as a greatest hits album ....

[@maxgrass8134]

Cool stuff. Great listeding to you. Try "forever failure " please. I used to hear that a lot. Now my perception on the song has changey somewhat now that i know who is talking in the spoken part. Sad actually, but it did take out some of the mystery for me.

[@someonefromouterspace3888]

Same here, I didn't know that in the 90's. Anyway I think that is the best song of PL. It seems the songs that I like the most are those with a solo at the end. Over the madness is another beautiful song. Greg Mackintosh is such a good composer.

[@anttisaksi5735]

Thanks for this. This band is a pioneer. My favorite band ever. Very difficult band to approach in a way, cause they have had so many different styles over the years.

[@ChaseCarneson]

I'm just glad you enjoyed it. Looking forward to more stuff soon.

[@jccasts]

I was there in 2007 Nightwish/Paradise Lost, NYC. Nokia Theater! I'm PL. Fan since 1990. Thanks to React to PL. 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘 PL. Played another concert in NYC. At High Line Ballroom few weeks later I was there too!

[@JimmyRJump]

Doom was introduced to the world in 1970 when Black Sabbath released their self-titled debut album. No-one really knew what to do with it and a lot of folks liked it but it took a few years before other bands tried similar music.

[@miguelrodriguez-qm3mq]

Paradise lost hell yeah! This song is for their last album obsidian. This record has the perfect balance between their death doom and gothic rock sound (it has a song that is like a sister of mercy song, its perfect). Now for death doom highligts you could check hooded menace or asphyx, for me the perfect example of the sound of this genre.

[@OrkarIsberEstar]

XD your mic placement is epic for this video. just read your shirt again XD Asics? dont think so XD

[@samanthar1214]

I kept reading it and laughing.

[@pin-upmariposa412]

This comment is a pure gold (both one) 😂

[@monstercookies2726]

arse!

[@ryanhart8740]

One of my all time favorite bands, been a huge fan since 1990, masterpiece of a song on a masterpiece of an album… Been to many concerts with them through the years, they are just incredible, so glad you liked it, great reaction…

[@Boerke]

Not a big fan of the genre usually... But this one was really cool!

[@Nick-gb2ki]

Wasn't expecting you to check out these Yorks hire miserablists. Awesome! If you fancy it you can check out the really old stuff like 'Pity the Sadness' or 'As I Die'. They also went a bit industrial later (see 'Mercy' for example). They went sort of Depeche Mode for a bit but must people don't like to talk about that.

[@Nick-gb2ki]

I suspect I saw them live before your parents were even holding hands!

[@uaripple]

PARADISE LOST is one of the best doom metal bands

[@redfbaesse]

Oh, and if you say Paradise Lost, you should also say My Dying Bride. Together with Anathema they were the big three of Death/Doom Metal that days. Anathema nowadays is more rock than metal. MDB is still darker and more doomy than Paradise Lost. You should give it a try. For example MY DYING BRIDE - Your Broken Shore. Fun fact, the Bass Intro of their song A Kiss to remember was the impact for me to start playing bass =)

[@joannavanschaik7561]

Draconian Times is their best record in my opinion, try " The Last Time" or " Hallowed Land"

[@chincevideos923]

ooh stuff I dont know, time to dive in

[@Meviobutcher]

Finally some PAradise Lost! Nice!

[@Meviobutcher]

Nick is just my favorite singer, and Greg is a freakin' guitarist

[@captainrojox]

Love the breakdown about the chugs and the pedal tones, made me want to pick up my sg again.

[@mozsab]

So, I came here on Tanks recommendation and for the last week I’ve spent 2 hours a day watching and rewatching your Nightwish reactions and I am in awe of how well you dissect the song and bring me to appreciate, in a new way, songs I’ve listened to hundreds of times. And you make me laugh hard with your jokes or expressions. Then, today, I’m going through your other reactions and saw this and dropped my damn phone in shock. PL is my all time favorite band and this song has hit me like some of the earlier material. Chase, thank you! And you have a damn good day too!

[@ChaseCarneson]

Thank you so much for taking the time to look through my stuff. I really appreciate it.

[@Hy-jg8ow]

Finally a good song again! They were the pioneers of Gothic metal as well. I recommend you react to the whole of their Draconian Times album:) Never gonna happen I know, but hey, you asked for it. Ps: Another iconic, genre defining band to whom you are overdue to react is Symphony X, I recommend their song Egypt for a first listen.

[@spiderjerusalem100]

This song is my favourite of the last year. It's beautiful, harrowing and the lyrics are about not giving in to darker thoughts and emotions which is so relevant during the pandemic the whole world is going through right now. The fact that it has not (as far as i know) been nominated for any awards is a fucking crime.

[@someonefromouterspace3888]

I would recommend the entire album Draconian Times (their best seller album from 1995), reacting to any of these songs of the album could be great: Forever Failure, Hallowed land or Enchantment. Other great songs are: True belief (Icon 1993), Gothic (Gothic 1991) The song Gothic also has strings, and female vocals, with this album they got fame around the world (except in north america I think), and many bands start imitating the style of this album. But Paradise Lost change their sound with subsequent albums. With the album Icon they had big success, and with Draconian times even more. Then they switch to electronics and pop rock so many metal fans were disappointed at the time (1997). Then in the 2000's very slowly went back to a heavier sound. Finally, their return to death doom in 2015, was welcomed by many old fans like me with the acclaimed album The plague within. Other great songs are: Over the madness, Last regret. I love the solos in these songs.

[@ragingstorm79]

That's a great track. Sometimes doom can get a bit repetitive and boring but songs like these have plenty of interesting little parts that keep you engaged. I'd love to see you do Cattle Decapitation - Death Atlas (kinda tech death) and my favourite band The Ocean - Jurassic | Cretaceous (prog/post metal)

[@alejandrotarazona5359]

Great video, what about a reaction of their 1999 album Host.

[@leodatto7951]

Draconian next!!!

[@darrenaurisch2707]

Paradise Lost....one of the most underrated bands still going today!

[@papaherf7349]

Loved that solo... great sound!

[@mikemahmoud6563]

the voice layering sounds like Phil Collins lol, 5:27 what a introduction

[@bf3802]

Love love love the technical breakdowns of all the reactions, can see the genuine joy in your face when you hear something that works great! Can i beg that you you check out anything from these 2 bands but my pick would be Periphery - Stranger Things and Protest the Hero - From the Sky. Keep up the awesome work man! (also an aussie with kiwi parents i understand the springbok accent haha)

[@ChaseCarneson]

Haha nice one dude. Yeah I'll get those on the list.

[@ericabenoit8620]

Oh SNAP cant wait to watch this after my classes

[@ChaseCarneson]

It'll be here waiting for you

[@1972cd]

I have to say, even with the growl vocals (as I have said before), songs that come in soft and then hammer you are definitely my cup of tea. Your analysis really helped me appreciate this song even more (but nothing new there). Thanks for doing these guys, another band I will be checking out more and probably adding to a playlist,

[@chriskahrhoff8954]

One of the top 5 metal song released in the last 5 years

[@Gethsemane88]

Love this song 🥰

[@BurpleRX7]

You should really check out one of my favourite bands, Solstafir. They are from Iceland and I first caught them live in a festival in the middle of nowhere and they blew me away, a good start point would be Fjara or otta, even if it’s not for a review I think you will enjoy them

[@captainrojox]

I love your content.

[@georgepichler5351]

Always good stuff dude. You have introduced me to a few bands that are now playlist regulars. I would love to see you react to some old Parkway Drive. Anything off Atlas, Deep Blue, Horizons, or Killing With A Smile. I have a feeling you'd dig it.

[@trshbrnr1]

Chase, I am not sure if you are Familiar with Sam Dunn out of Canada but he did a Family Tree of Metal Genres if you are looking for a resource to track and get a feeling for the whole family of Metal. He did a Masters or Phd on the topic. Loving your reactions/analysis! \m/

[@paulpaterson803]

Sam founded Banger TV, which is a great channel for metal heads.

[@maximilianschultz8244]

16 albums, wow.

[@KreshDraven6]

Such a great band, extremelly cohesive discography. These guys and Draconian are easily the best goth/ death doom bands in the industry nowadays

[@RenalDistress]

Now it's time for Rivers of Nihil - Where Owls Know My Name

[@FozzyWozzy1203]

Never listened to this band before. Very cool, I like!

[@Zodd-pi8st]

One of my favorite bands

[@theopinson3851]

One of my favorites. They have a long history and huge discography which can be overwhelming but is well worth it because you never know what you’ll get lol. They’ve done everything from death/doom metal to synth pop. A good start would be what most consider their peak years with Draconian Times/Icon/Shades of God. Enchantment would be a nice song to hit next. 🤟🏻

[@theopinson3851]

Also, if you’re interested in exploring the genre, My Dying Bride and Saturnus are worth checking out. Unfortunately both also have huge daunting discographies as well...but the Cry of Mankind, Songless Bird, A Sea to Suffer In and Crown of Sympathy for MDB and Christ Goodbye for Saturnus will get you started. ;)

[@thgeremilrivera-thorsen9556]

The band pioneered the Death-Doom genre, then left it. What you hear here has elements of Death-Doom but a much more rounded, cross-genre style than their early-nineties works. I really love this new new album because of the way they have merged all the different genres they have moved through over the years and still managed to make it sound as a natural whole.

[@thgeremilrivera-thorsen9556]

Also, in the same genre, I recommend you take a look at some My Dying Bride - the other great pioneers of Death-Doom, but went in a totally different - but equally restrained - direction.

[@theheck5176]

They've tried different sounds. Try the album believe in nothing. Non growl period is also great.

[@TheButterflyChaos]

Chase, My dude. You need to do more Paradise Lost and Sonata Arctica. Great job

[@kevinb9968]

Please do beneath broken earth by Paradise Lost very heavy and slow the drummer is amazing the ultimate restraint song song when he could go nuts .

[@theSFCchannel]

Please react to more of their stuff including their back catalogue.

[@mikaelforsehag1851]

I started following your channel because Nightwish,since then i found 4 other bands to explore.This is No:5 Thanks! Btw,you need to listen to Nightwish cover of Pink Floyds "High hopes",it is reMarcoble ! :)

[@ne.laser_jon]

Lol! I am here once again asking you to do an analysis of Wolfheart! Some call their style ‘winter metal’ but it’s melodic doom/death metal. Very atmospheric mood setting introductions on their more popular songs; chasm, Routa part 2, the hunt, Valkyrie just because it’s one of my favorites 🤘🏼😁🤘🏼

[@petri4618]

i'd love to see you reacting to Entombed...clandestine and left hand path are maybe best death metal albums from early years, evilyn was my early teens anthem.

[@davidking9766]

For more great death doom, check out Draconian "Stellar Tombs"

[@rocioiribe5841]

Didn't realize they had a new song out. Thanks Chase!

[@rocioiribe5841]

@@nghb2023 aw shit. i'm really behind. lol thank you! will be listening. i liked this song :)

[@3WWizard]

I really enjoyed this one. First exposure for me to this band. Good stuff and would like to hear more.

[@PhilipPStanil]

🖤

[@Krishach]

I would love to hear your thoughts on Earthside: "As Close as I've Come," "Mob Mentality," "A Dream in Static," or even "Crater" which is a more straightforward prog metal composition.

[@carlosmrergis921]

Try Swallow the sun... "Cathedral walls"

[@konantb8322]

Another favorite of mine in this genre is the band Draconian. If you ever want to listen to more like this, I'm going to recommend my personal favorites, being Sorrow of Sophia ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5LUh4RonNurj6c ), Stellar Tombs ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/mILPk6J8q616h5Y ) and Rivers Between Us ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpPZmqp3qqqLp8U ). They also just released a new song today kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5TMoKB_aKpkf5Y

[@Mannoroth131415]

If you liked that kind of stuff you should give Borknagar, especially the newest Album, a shot. My personal favorite so far is "Up North" together with "Voices"

[@sqshooter]

This album and the song not a death doom metal really but mix of genres Paradise Lost used to play. Good reaction though, thanks!

[@vehmaamtb]

Dear Hunter - Waves reaction please! Very beautiful song and genius song writing

[@joakimdjerv4488]

If you like Paradise Lost then take a look at Katatonia.Another great band👍

[@TimberWolf762]

Have you heard *The Warning* ? They are 3 sisters from Mexico, now 20, 18, and 15 years old. Their cover of Metallica’s Enter Sandman went viral in 2014 (21+ million views). They have an EP and 2 indie albums out and just signed a 5-record deal with Lava/Republic. This is Sinister Smiles, from their Queen of the Murder Scene concept album, a girl’s descent into murder and madness: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpmVloxmpcpsjpI

[@FallingPig]

Another example Swedish band Tiamat - The Sleeping Beauty.

[@timlubbers2884]

Loved Paradise Lost since the early 90's...love the style... Please respond to Lacuna Coil ...

[@aleksandraprvulovic1337]

Its a Gnostic band.. 😏 Like "Draconian" band.. I don't know if the is more similar, but I know about these two...

[@crabuki1273]

Depressing, but then that's the point.

[@Elviolli]

Just seeing the name Paradise Lost makes me want to hear the song Paradise Lost by Symphony X - a gorgeous progressive metal tune.

[@paulpaterson803]

UTA just released a cover of the Cranberries song "Zombie". You gotta hear Brittney's take on that song.

[@redfbaesse]

Welcome to the darker ones =) Please check out DRACONIAN - Stellar Tombs (Official Video)

[@mormel12]

Pioneers for this gerne is a band called venom, but paradise lost sure brought it to another level