First SHOTS with the 338 ARC DISSENT and Friends

[@e.l.robbins5614]

This is America; we can have 8.6, and 338 arc.

[@GunsGadgets]

That was so fun!!! Shooting mini sledge hammers 😂

[@TundraTactical]

@@GunsGadgets this is all I will ever be able to think about when I shoot this gun… in fact that’s gonna be my new arbitrary gun ranking scale, how my sledges have been slung outta 5. Could work, but probably won’t.

[@unclecushion]

That was really nice of you guys to edit in the hit sound for Tyler when shooting at 300 yards

[@TundraTactical]

0:56 this round and this gun are hands down my favorite of the year! Looks like we might need more subsonic thwackers sooner rather than later!

[@randyreviewsit]

johnnyb's giggling means its fun

[@TundraTactical]

@@randyreviewsit it’s extra fun to finally see that in real life

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Very cool

[@ngaoutdoors4157]

Perfect sbr bolt gun caliber 😊

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

Awesome! My favorite guys all in one place, within spitting distance of one of the universities I attended there in Booneville, MO! I went to NMMI before that though, GO BRONCOS!!! I wish Kemper were still in Booneville.

[@anthonymichellekitchens6148]

The sound from the steel is louder than the gun😂

[@TundraTactical]

@@anthonymichellekitchens6148 the mics don’t do it justice, that steel was singing

[@12345678971926]

I’ll probably stick with the 300 blackout until this product is more plentiful and keep playing with the 8.6 blackout because I like a little bit more power

[@TacticalTarzan-sm7ds]

Super stoked to get this setup to match the 6arc

[@BugsyNY]

You guys were having way too much fun out there 🤟😃

[@troysanders4673]

Testing suppressed and shooting steel

[@lloydcastleton]

So many of my favorite guntubers on this one. But that is bonkers defnitely a white tail woods type of bullet.

[@ArthriticAngler]

Specter+ 😂 looks goot!

[@JDCali459mm]

Gel test?

[@HoodRatDiesel]

Really interested to see this shot side by side with 300 blk

[@CMMG]

let @bananaballistics know! He loves doing stuff like that!

[@FocusedHands]

Im going to stick with 86 and 300! Is what it is!

[@jcsabolt2]

Let’s see it go Full Auto!!

[@JayWatkin]

Innovation is needed but NATO components should not be changed all at once. Barrel is obvious but mags and bolt are a tough sell for the common man. 300 blkout, 8.6 blkout, and 6mm max should top of the list for modern gas gun cartridge. 6.5 creedmoore and 300 prc are another convo but I will mention just to cover bases.

[@12345678971926]

I meant to say train it out so the bolt is a 6.5 Grindle I presume, where do you get your barrel at?

[@youtubedude3422]

I get that 338 arc will work in an ar15, but it is not optimal for it. The bolt face and magazines have always turned me off from the other "ar15 cartridges." The 6arc even has 2 load data sets for bolt and gas guns where the gas load is weaker. The dissent is an ar10 frame if I remember right. If you're going with these alternatives cartridges, guns like this will do better. I think that's why the mk47 is so popular. I hope the lighter small frame ar10s like the SRAR, POF, and others, will follow CMMG's lead and offer these options.

[@jonathanlogan6647]

Kevin is that you in disguise? You are aware that it is like that for ALL ar15 cartridges right. This even includes 223 and 556 as the ar15 is built and has been since the late 50s to operate at 58k psi max where as most bolt guns run at 62 to 66k and often get pushed even a little higher by handloaders. It's not the bolt face that is the problem it's people loading way hotter than the system was designed for. I would see the same bolt issues come up quite often when I was shooting service rifle matches as a lot of the guys would really push the 223 on the pressure end in with the 77 and 80gr bullets. It's not a great argument as a would say this is indeed an optimized round for the ar15 sized gun for suppressed subsonic shooting and energy down range performance and given hornady stated on the m.a.c. Podcast that the round both super and sub runs at 48k psi the bolt face argument is even less valid.

[@Tactisloth]

Is there any advantage over 8.6? Other than platform size?

[@MrKingArthurhk]

With a wildcat round, who’s supplying the ammunition? CMMG?🤔

[@Maxx_Rockatansky]

It’s a SAAMI approved cartridge. Hornady is manufacturing ammunition.

[@MrKingArthurhk]

Thanks, I went down that rabbit hole. I found out it’s a 200 yard driveway and in round and seems like necked down 8.6 blackout that has a similar range. I want to know if it will be useful against all North America n predators and game. I have zero interests in trophy hunting. If I can eat it, it’s a pest, or a dangerous apex predator. If this new round in a smaller platform, and works just as well as an 8.6 blackout, I’m in. If it is a short distance, underpowered round, why bother?🤔

[@17junebug1]

Will a frt work in the dissent?

[@me2ontube]

I thought he missed the 300 yd shot then a hslf hour later ... PING ! 😂

[@patrickulloa3695]

Can y'all please start selling y'alls Dissent handguards please?... Preciate it...

[@colethornberry3581]

Good luck finding that ammo

[@thalo215]

I was already sold on it. No need to twist my arm. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mydude_az]

So the Minnesota man does actually shoot. 😮

[@CMMG]

his was the larger target 🤣

[@mydude_az]

@CMMG that tracks 🤣🤣

[@TundraTactical]

@@CMMGok calm down

[@CMMG]

@@TundraTactical 🤗

[@mydude_az]

@@TundraTactical 🤣🤘

[@tc6818]

5:45 Johnny B without eye-pro.

[@witchdoc5075]

I love seeing Paul hanging with my other fav KZbinrs.

[@GunsGadgets]

Nobody wanted to be near him…LOL. Just kidding…maybe. PAWL!!!

[@witchdoc5075]

@GunsGadgets LOL!

[@TundraTactical]

@@witchdoc5075 PAWL!! He’s the best!!! Not only can he shoot but he carried my ass in shuffleboard that night.

[@maxcole3930]

ammo cost & availability??!?

[@mrshort2379]

@CMMG I have been waiting for that 338arc to finally hit the market. However as a suggestion, I would like to see that 338arc compared to 8.6 Blackout, side by side just to settle an argument...

[@ToastbackWhale]

Only advantage 8.6 has is supersonic capability, but that’s not even what either one is intended for so it’s totally moot.

[@AverageGunPerson]

​@ToastbackWhale the 8.6 can also shoot 350-450gr projectiles

[@HManning]

Chicago is here ✊🏾💪🏾✊🏾 salute 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@juanthelawnmowerthief1641]

Still not sold on the 1/8 twist Hornady is promoting. If it’s pushing close to the same size & weight projectiles as the 8.6 blk it should have a faster twist. Even with a 1/5 twist Hornady traditional cup and core bullets should not explode.

[@markreynolds6715]

Make a 6mm max Dissent.

[@JayWatkin]

6max is so underrated and next gun I’m building

[@patrick014]

For an industry crying about not enough components to make ammunition, and needing to raise prices because of it, you sure do find enough to make new boutique cartridges. Oh well, you need a new gun to fit that cartridge. What a scam.

[@nathanwhite5602]

Cool video

[@witchdoc5075]

This is making me rethink my backpack gun setup.

[@TundraTactical]

Same here… my wife has already told me not to buy it 5 times now and I think I’m willing to risk it… pray for me

[@witchdoc5075]

@TundraTactical Consider it done...... **amen**

[@witchdoc5075]

Dude though. The MK4 SBR in 338 ARC? Let me get some dies first. I already shoot/reload 6.5 Grendel. So I already have bolts/bcgs. Man...meant to be!

[@MyRanger12]

This is just to funny.

[@GldenRetriever]

If only 9x39 has gotten this much attention when it came state side. Guess we can settle for this second place cartridge as it's better than 300blk (which the russians found out over half a century ago).

[@AverageGunPerson]

What about 9x39 is better?

[@JayWatkin]

Nothing drops like rock super and subs. The only reason bullets stick around are because they are able to hit things that move.

[@GldenRetriever]

@@AverageGunPerson biggest bullet with heavier weight options and more silencer choices. Basically the same reasons why 338 is better than 300blk.

[@Yoda052]

I love all things suppressed but it seems Hornady would go with a faster twist rate than 1:8 to stabilize those slow heavy rounds. I’m sure I will buy one as soon as the reloading components are available. We also need some load data.

[@AverageGunPerson]

The 338 Spectre, which is what hornady aped, uses a 1:6.5" twist rate. To my knowledge there isn't anything that can't be shot out of one or those twists but not the other. So hornady really should explain why 1:8" is better. So don't fall for the marketing ploy it's for reloading compatibility bc you can't optimally use the existing 125-300gr 338 spectre projectiles (which are most of what would fit and properly function). I bet most will stabilize for sure but im not of expansion, but others like solid copper monolithics could have issues

[@debi5292]

Another cartridge that in a few years will be gone.

[@goodcitizen64]

Nicely done gentlemen!

[@AverageGunPerson]

Looks fun as all get out, which is the best advertising you & big red can hope for. I want one of those shorties in a 1:3-1:5" twist... what an awesome little subsonic bag gun. I found 2.36" coal mags that would help a lot with this short of a set up

[@lucastonoli3256]

1:3 would be pointless, and absolutely not desireable at all. Manufacturers are already making 1:5, which is more than plenty enough for any reasonable cartridge.

[@AverageGunPerson]

@lucastonoli3256 I disagree. 1:3" would be specifically for subs & lighter weight 8.6 blk specific projectiles. Some already fit, & I found 2.36" COAL mags, with nas3 cases I could make up for even more of the lost case capacity. In Hornady's case, the sub-x doesn't "expand" below 900fps, so the twist would both help it deform and add cutting area. Possibly lowering the fps requirement. But of course I'm talking about a limited run item for reloaders

[@raymondmorris5082]

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[@henrymoreland8719]

I assume the excitement is because a major manufacturer is producing a knock off of Q's 8.6blk. And therefore it will become available in Wal-Mart.

[@rogerlittle354]

8.7 blk for super sonic. 338 arc for subs.

[@TundraTactical]

@@henrymoreland8719 fucking right baby!! Walmart fights just got a whole lot more interesting

[@unclecushion]

Also cmmg makes an 8.6 dissent too, so you can already get something cheaper than a boom box

[@TheStig505]

.300 BLK being a knockoff of .300 Whisper, and now 8.6BLK being a knockoff of .375 Raptor.

[@wood-wheel-wizard]

CaVe MaN sAy No EaR pRoTeCtiOn

[@Wade-1]

No offense but it's silly. 8.6 or 300.

[@CMMG]

We make those too. We don't design the cartridges, just the guns to shoot them 😉

[@Wade-1]

@CMMG I get it. But it's like showcasing a .222 Remington when you have .223. If the industry focused on the superior cartridges it would become much cheaper to shoot. Q made a 8.6 blackout lighter than most standard AR15's. CMMG is a great company. I have no doubt they could take the 8.6 and do something similar. Then there would he no need for people thinking the size and heft of the gun even matters.

[@thesuperkat943]

8.6 is for people with 2 dads

[@308supremacist]

​@@thesuperkat943 8.6 is for people who want a round that can't do the job of 308 or 375 raptor as well as either cartridge it's trying to beat

[@thesuperkat943]

@@308supremacist and who want overpriced ammo pushed by a crackhead that can barely hit the broadside of a barn from 5 feet cuz "muh twist rate"

[@Zippy_Davis]

I apologize if this is a stupid question.What's the following per hundred yards With that ammo

[@TundraTactical]

When we were out at 300 with that barrel it was about a 5foot hold