FIRST TAKE | Lamar is on a different level than Josh Allen! - Cam Newton is CROWNING Ravens QB

[@King9988-y9j]

Last time I check Josh aint win shit either and Lamar is out playing him n every category so how is he front runner for mvp stop it

[@Glhodges05]

@@King9988-y9j lol take away henry flowers and andrews then say that

[@louistate3774]

​@Glhodges05 He did it in 19' and stop acting like Josh has no players lol Ravens top 5 in drop %. Lamar stats be even better if they were more reliable.

[@tyreegrant5789]

The only thing is Josh Allen playing with nobody on offense

[@Jaymitch3]

120 passer rating for a season Is automatic mvp !! 4k passing & possibl 1K rushing with Aaron Rodgers like td - int ratio

[@TheMalikperry19]

@@tyreegrant5789 that’s just not true bruh yall love saying he has nobody but he has multiple players over 500 yards receiving cook has 1200 plus yards in total offense , 13TDs leading all non QBs in TDs bruh he has weapons and he spreads the wealth . Stop saying he’s Doing it with nobody bc outside of this year Josh has had elite weapons , now he just has weapons and he’s putting up the same production so clearly his pass catchers and play makers are of the higher caliber range . He’s got a better wr core than most QBs rn aside from maybe the Vikings , the Detroit lions

[@BAPAF]

I'm so lost right now. They just pulled up the stats and Lamar has more passing yards, touchdowns, running yards, qbr, pass a percentage, yards per Rush, and he won in the head to head, everything about him is better than Josh Allen how is this even a conversation right now.

[@barwill98]

There trying to give him a lifetime achievement award

[@crob1612]

Because he is white 😂😂😂😂

[@jusim1000]

And he's leading his division

[@CarnalEssence]

Josh Allen’s wins are more impressive. He beat the best teams this year. The ravens have lost to teams they shouldn’t have lost to.

[@travisbrand3135]

“Without a doubt Josh Allen” This is why we’re calling the MVP this year a participation award.Lamar is beating him in every stat but let’s give it to Josh Allen because he has no hardware? Lol

[@Mikedawgsz]

Ravens had one of the hardest schedules this year and for Lamar to be doing what he’s doing.😮‍💨 MV3

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

You mean losing to the browns and raiders.

[@melaninknowledge3658]

​@@HockeyDudeJames29/30 or 35-10? 😂

[@crob1612]

@@melaninknowledge3658 he forgot the ass kicking 😂😂😂

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

@@melaninknowledge3658 10-5 or 12-3?

[@melaninknowledge3658]

@HockeyDudeJames2 thats 11-5 kid, and I'll take 11-5 in a tougher division and harder schedule than 12-3 in a cupcake division with a soft schedule. Do you know what that means, junior? That means when you go up against actual competition, you're going to get blown out 35-10 😆 or go 9/30. Lamar record is 7-3 against playoff teams, and Josh is 3-3. Which one is better, kid?

[@geraldos9094]

What does Josh Allen have? We aren’t giving away participation awards.

[@frandavis1990]

Brees never got one and nobody gave these excuses, and he won a sb against Manning! They dont wanna see the Florida Man win it after they said so many false narratives

[@legendofblockparty1858]

Did she say joshh deserves because he has nothin.....sooooooooooooo

[@pedrokoto]

No…she didn’t say he deserves it more…she said it would mean more for him

[@iveyyancy2438]

Yes, This woman is delusional to say Josh Allen, who has 000 deserves the MVP.

[@melaninknowledge3658]

Bro, I've heard a few pundits say the same thing. Now they want the MVP to be a sympathy award? 😂 you cant make this chit up

[@matthewmarrello323]

“What does josh allen have”. EXACTLY!!! Dude doesn’t have anything, but still gets glazed beyond belief

[@miwawilliams1339]

But that's also why it would mean more to him. Lamar needs the SB, Joe needs to get back to the SB & win it... Josh needs hardware.

[@JoakiMartin]

Lamar won 2 mvps with no Pro bowl wr

[@bboyzhoop8455]

James Cook has 15 tds just saved Josh against the patriots.....

[@zayheadmedia3215]

Bills fans trying to say bills are terrible without Josh when that’s hasn’t even been proven yet! Lmao it’s just a what if statement!

[@juiceloose2462]

@@zayheadmedia3215they was BADDD UNTIL JOSH BOY

[@williesquire-zw4nx]

If their wasn't Jim Crow there wouldn't be DEI and that mind set still exist 😊

[@antisocial9152]

Wow she really just said he needs to win the MVP award for not having anything to date with his stats being a bit lower than lamer ESPN should’ve given her WALKING PAPERS FOR THAT ONE

[@dbrownwind]

It’s amazing how you are so caught up on MVP race. I’m a ravens fan and I don’t care about it. All matters to me if they win a Super Bowl so you would get off Lamar Jackson’s jock. I know where he stands in my opinion, but you people have a narrative if you want to spread so if you want Josh Allen to be the guy. As long as we win the Super Bowl.

[@Bennyandtheclippers]

You want to know what else is crazy Lamar , king Henry , John harbough and the ravens is God fearing 💯💯 and that’s something the nfl haven’t seen this whole team is anointed that’s something worth covering which hasn’t by no media 💯

[@brevontownes8655]

What's "toasty" about the MVP Race, Lamar is a better player, they've been trying to give Allen the MVP ever since 13 seconds happened

[@00ghostcobra]

It is going to look real bad if Josh Allen wins the MVP only to face Lamar in the playoffs and get blown out AGAIN...

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

Or lose the MVP and move to.2-0 In the playoffs vs him.

[@melaninknowledge3658]

​@@HockeyDudeJames2it's gonna be another 35-10 kid 😂

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

@melaninknowledge3658 Didn't the browns and raiders beat you when Henry wasn't involved?

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

@melaninknowledge3658 Lamar has completed 25 passes in the last two games. I guess the narrative is true. The Ravens are better and can win when Lamar doesn't have to throw. I mean he does have a losing record including in the playoffs when he throws over 30 times lol.

[@diegorjalvarado]

@@00ghostcobra didn't lamar win mbp last year and lose AGAIN to mahomes like he's done every single game

[@legendofblockparty1858]

So let me get this clear...lamar undeserved mvp stats 24tds 7ints pass 7rush 3600 yards......Josh deserves a mvp stats....26tds 6i nts 11rush 3500....and yall think there's not a bias or a agenda against lamar....when they have similar stats....

[@miwawilliams1339]

That's not what I heard them say... the question was to whom would MVP mean more... but who deserves it more. Josh had nothing... no SB appearance... no MVP. So they're saying winning MVP would mean more to him than to Lamar who's already won 2 & is focused on the Lombardi. Not discussing who will win it. Cause that could well be Saquon if the record falls ijs.

[@JoakiMartin]

Josh had 18 int last yr😂Lamar was #1 seed with 32td

[@legendofblockparty1858]

@@miwawilliams1339 i heard them the fact it's a debate is the issue

[@jjr9072]

MVP for Josh, Super bowl for Lamar!

[@antoniok7224]

They better not snub Lamar like they did when Steve McNair had to share co MVP with Manning when Steve had a way better season he should’ve won. Lamar is clear MVP

[@tonydavis4627]

Watching lamar is like watching Jordan...DON'T BLINK!

[@StanleyCooper7]

1 Day in America ❤

[@marvinrawls4213]

4000 yards passing, 43 total TD, 900 yards rushing leading the division oh yea I got the best qbr this year.

[@markjefferson2434]

Look at the numbers.

[@kizzlejohnson2705]

Everybody knows who's the real MVP MV3 easily 🎯💪💯..

[@FLEX0NTV]

Last time I checked, the Ravens manhandled the Bills in week 4 35-10 and made Josh Allen look like a high school bench QB. I wonder why no one ever mentions the head to head match up

[@terrysmith5525]

Trying to give the award to Josh just because he has nothing is blasphemy

[@antisocial9152]

People always say something about Lamar having Henry like Josh Allen over there doing everything and James cook just doesn’t exist at all he being disrespected big time by the media he is the reason Allen is having a good season cause cook can run it or catch it which opens up Josh Allen

[@simdakid9048]

They trying to give Josh a DEI award.

[@TheSpeezo81]

The fact that these men are subjected to listen to this DEI hire woman is demoralizing

[@sasperhenser7558]

Bruh ya so lame I get that Josh needs that award but hands down that goes to the best player in league rn at this year and that will be LJackson he beat the dog out of Josh so enough is enough Ty

[@jamestamrat923]

Kimberly is wrong wrong wrong, we don’t give out awards just because someone doesn’t have an award. He needs to earn it and Lamar has earned not with just his number but the opponents played have been tougher than the Bills this season.

[@ryerob4815]

MV3 MV3 !!!

[@denisesimard5952]

When did the MVP change from Most Valuable Player to Most Validated Participant? According to this conversation, Lamar is the former and Josh the latter!

[@flashysimms2663]

Is this lady fah real???? Jash having a good season but not a mvp one

[@tycoon214]

Lamar Jackson is that dude!!!!!!! He’s on his way to a Super Bowl this year. BELIEVE THAT!!!!!! I don’t give a f**k what the naysayers say. Lamar is shitting on the competition. Josh Allen is a good QB, but he’s not outplaying Lamar. LETS GO RAVENS!!!!!!!!!😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

[@ronaldholloway5258]

Is she serious

[@EricButler-b1u]

No San Francisco had a running quarterback Steve Young who won a Super Bowl

[@Monsieur_Alex]

So weird wow these professionals are stuck on a storyline for Lamar rather then clearly seeing what Josh is doing with no weapons, If Josh went to the ravens they would be undefeated, Lamar goes to bills, he’ll maybe get 6 or 7 wins for the season

[@darylsolomon9205]

Wide Rite!!!😂😂😂😂

[@iremainunimpressed1589]

All i know.. Ravens Coaching staff gotta stop selling

[@ojm3724]

This was tiring.

[@ryerob4815]

I didn't know the 3rd best guy is supposed to get hardware. Aint no silver and bronze kn the NFL. Your either the best team Cheifs or the best player Lamar. You get no reward for second anything.

[@RoskiSmiles]

Pity party

[@SayDatShiii...]

Regardless if he cares or not he's earned it..and who TF said he doesn't care..Josh Allen doesn't deserve it Lamar is a better runner and passer than Josh Allen..Lamar Jackson is the reigning two-time MVP and will win his 3rd..

[@mrsnfta]

But Allen hasn't played yet. 😂😂😂 Lamar need the Superbowl.

[@darondawson6566]

what does josh allen has

[@miwawilliams1339]

Yes. And he'll play the Jets so... hold on to that "but it's the Giants" energy you had for Lamar a couple weeks ago

[@frandavis1990]

​@@miwawilliams1339yep. Lamar vs winning teams is 7-3 with a toe away from beating all the current afc playoff streams. Josh is 3-3 and will finish against some trash teams

[@halfbak3d]

​@frandavis1990 they weren't a toe away from winning. That was then to either kick the pat to tie, or convert the 2pt to win. We know they were going to go for 2, and probability says the chiefs stop them from converting.

[@Nehemiah.A]

See this is why folks shouldn’t be at the table talking because first yall talk about stats then switch up and talk about appearances and who has what and don’t have what including to players and milestones.. like choose one. It’s not that hard. Just say yall don’t want Lamar to win based off of Josh Allen narrative. Bc yall talking bout rings, but Allen, Hurts and others don’t have one either. So what are we talking bout here??

[@Tobefrank22]

Horrible question. Who cares? Who do you think is the MVP?😂😂When does a quarterback or MVP win a super bowl alone?

[@ajrocks44]

Allen going to throw up another bad game vs the Jets this weekend.

[@Tobefrank22]

You don't get it, ifyou dont deserve it.

[@BullseyeBob1]

As a Bills fan who cares? We want a Super Bowl and everything else is just window dressing.

[@NicolasWilliams-gf6dw]

The nay sayers so bad want Josh Allen to be the Great White Hype that beat Lamar but Josh Allen is not on Lamar jackson level I'm sorry

[@dillonwiedemann8231]

@@NicolasWilliams-gf6dw 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TelDabarba]

Bruh.... narrowed the gap? Lamar is 3 levels better then Josh. STOP THE MADNESS

[@darondawson6566]

IF IM NOT MISTAKEN, JOSH NOT JOE HAVE WON A SUPERBOWL NOR A MVP #IJS

[@MAXIMA347]

Cant try to compare LeBron and Lamar. Lamar not running no where to win a ring

[@leegoddard2618]

Josh Allen IS the Bills. Jackson has a lot of talent around him, Making him look good. Nothing wrong with that but Allen Is better, overall. Burrow should be in this convo, really. He is carrying his whole team.

[@spaveevo]

Its no much easier to play QB with an all time running back.

[@halfbak3d]

Last year, lamar deserved ot becaus of the record. But now its because the stats. But that doesnt even matter, its mvp. With the cast around them, how are they doing.... Bills werent supposed to do anything this year. The ravens were put in the superbowl the day they signed henry.... Bills are where they are, because of allen.

[@computerblue1000]

Both of these guys basically do the same thing, Allen has a better arm while Lamar has better legs.

[@darrellferguson7260]

@@computerblue1000 negative 😂, this is not even close. Lamar is light years better. Josh has a stronger arm, not a better one.

[@Lidogz]

If Allen had a better arm his QB stats would be better than Lamar. Lamar is the better QB bottom line.

[@dillonwiedemann8231]

​@@darrellferguson7260😂😂😂😂

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

​@@Lidogzyou do Realize the Ravens wrs create the most separation and it's not close? I've never been impressed with Lamars tight window accuracy

[@Lidogz]

@@HockeyDudeJames2 What’s your point? I told you already to stick to hockey. Despite the fact that flowers and Bate cause separation he still needs to pass the ball. In regards to tight windows you obviously don’t watch the games, you probably never saw that pass he threw to Andrew’s against the Browns last yr where only Andrew’s could catch it. If the man couldn’t pass regardless of WR separation he would not be leading the league in most of the passing categories.

[@HallWay51]

Please, the first mobile QB to win a Super Bowl was Steve Young!!

[@Highevolutionary-c2h]

Dont talk to us about no damn joe burrughs with there record ever again 😤

[@Highevolutionary-c2h]

The nfl needs to cancel those christmas games which are just as bad as playing on thursday night fanboys