First Time Using a Cheap Laser Cutter for EVA Foam Costume/ Sinis Ortur Laser Master 2 Pro S2 Review

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Looking for a cost effective way to get perfect cuts on EVA foam? If so, you've probably seen inexpensive diode lasers with big claims. I am testing out the Ortur Laser Master 2 Pro S2 to see what it can do. I am not sure how safe it is to cut EVA foam yet, so make sure to do your research and stay safe!!
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[@outlawedgames7094]

Great review! Eventually I would love to add a machine like this to my "workshop" as you've shown the detailing that can be achieved with one is worth it.

[@LostWax]

Yes, totally worth it if you do a lot of making stuff!

[@traciakierman1]

Yay! I'm so happy you tried a laser. I've found that the diode lasers cut EVA so much nicer than CO2 laser cutters. You're going to be unstoppable now.

[@LostWax]

Yes! It was about time! I think you were actually the first person I talked to about the possibility of using laser cutters on foam:)

[@ruthbryant3929]

Awesome. Not something I could or would think about buying. That said, your review was great. Appreciate all the safety things you addressed.

[@LostWax]

Thanks for watching!

[@HandlebarWorkshops]

So... um... Digital files for your past patterns, maybe?

[@LostWax]

Yeah, that's a thought, I'd have to go through them and fix them up a bit for laser cutting.

[@stevenboyer6973]

@@LostWax that would be amazing

[@openhearts3466]

Your reading assistant was excellent! 🤣

[@LostWax]

Right?!

[@originaltrilogy1]

Any laser without a laser-blocking-lid scares the crap out of my eyes. So glad you included making an enclosure and ventilation.

[@mattiasfagerlund]

I like it already! Remember; don't look into the laser with your remaining eye!

[@LostWax]

😂 indeed!

[@oddlytimbotwillison6296]

In fairness for the flame detection feature, I believe it is activated by smoke so a fuel lighter is not a good test. I can say that feature works very well on our Ortur machines that we use for classes we teach. With new students it is going off quite regularly until they get used to setting their power levels and speeds.

[@LostWax]

Interesting, yes, I'd need to try a few more things to see what's going on there. Though I would say it definitely reacts to bright sunlight every time, so maybe it is a combo of light color/smoke?

[@oddlytimbotwillison6296]

@@LostWax I wonder! That makes me curious. But I can say the alarm goes off quite reliably when our students have flare-ups. Like maybe four or five times per session when they are first getting started.

[@LostWax]

@@oddlytimbotwillison6296 Good to know!

[@chrisprestwich5697]

A very honest review 👏 I doubt I'll be getting one just yet, need to improve on my knife work first.

[@LostWax]

Yep, a good sharp knife can still create magic.

[@Maellen]

Could you also try other materials, please? Leather, velvet, etc? That would be extremely helpfull. Also, consider selling your old designs!

[@LostWax]

Yes, I'd like to try leather as well. I will definitely do that in the future. Also, which old designs are you referring to?

[@Maellen]

@@LostWax Foam embellishments, like in the Unilion in the Foam Armour and so on :) A ready-to-print pack could be interesting.

[@LostWax]

@@Maellen Ah, yes, I get what you are saying!! I'll definitely look into it if there's enough interest.

[@chuckreff]

I've had one of these for a few years now. I never thought about using it on shirts. I'm going to have to try this now.

[@LostWax]

I was really surprised with how nice the surface was on the one I did, definitely worth checking out further....

[@cw4608]

This is fantastic. I am going to try this with my older Ortur (no air assist )

[@NylonStrap]

For a computer issue, I would suggest getting a super cheap/2nd hand laptop to have as a dedicated computer for the unit.

[@LostWax]

Yes!

[@Shindai]

Not to shill, but huh, only £313? I was expecting such gear to be like, four timse that.

[@LostWax]

Yep, these diode lasers are super reasonably priced.

[@kylefacexx]

I am trying to purchase one of these but the links don't work and I can't find this online

[@littleharunosakura]

Will you be making a tutorial for the enclosure? Also I’m horrible with computers, is it really easy to set it up on the computer?

[@JacobHGamez]

Can u plz do more ghostbusters stuff

[@LostWax]

I probably will sometime, but not sure when.....

[@JacobHGamez]

@@LostWax ok

[@GamingDad63]

Did the finished piece get exactly the same size as the pattern or did it shrink? Interesting enough to do some more research for

[@LostWax]

I actually didn't measure it against the printed pattern, but I'm pretty sure it didn't shrink. The one cut out by hand however, grew, as the tracing around the paper pattern adds about 2mm all around the piece. I actually plan my patterns with this in mind, so for laser cutting I would need to add offset the cutting lines a bit to add the extra allowance. I'm pretty sure Lightburn can do that but haven't had time to learn yet.

[@andrecanis4894]

If I hadn't already bought one after seeing Ben Eadie's video, this would have convinced me :) For your idea of a wireless connection, Lightburn has a "bridge" kit using a Raspberry Pi, but that only works for lasers using a Ruida controller, so not an option for Ortur as far as I can tell. But it might be possible to do it with OctoPi like for 3d printers. You would save a gcode file from Lightburn, load that into Octoprint and let Octoprint output the file to the laser.

[@LostWax]

Hmm, that sounds interesting, but maybe a little more complicated than I'd be up for right now....Thanks for the info though!

[@philippkowalski1105]

@@LostWax Knowing OctoPI from the 3D printing world, it is actually really easy as it comes pre-packaged (you basically just install it) and it comes with a lot of neat features like camera support etc etc. Plus you can super easily integrate it into your home network so no running around with a laptop anymore :)

[@typesurftypesurf1318]

It's actually quite easy to create such a bridge for GCode-based machines. You just need to use a Raspberry Pi and the socat utility to bridge between a network connection and the serial interface of the machine.

[@Blou55]

Good morning after a year, are you still satisfied with your Ortur... This machine interests me a lot, I would also like to use it to make eva foam inserts for drawer bottoms in order to arrange my tools well. I intend to make a box to evacuate the gases and fumes. Thank you for your always interesting videos.

[@LostWax]

Hi there, Yes, I still enjoy the Ortur, the one thing I'd say is that the power cable to the laser head and the air assist hose I use don't have great cable management- I have to keep a close eye that they don't drag on the work surface or get in the way of the rollers. I think Ortur has a newer version that has better cable management, and I think it has wifi as well, so those would both be things I'd find useful.

[@DIYAudioGuy]

How thick can you cut? I would like to try it with 1" foam. I have a 20w laser.

[@LostWax]

So far the thickest I've cut is 12mm. I have another video that shows me testing it out on different foam thicknesses- kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmGbcmeXm8mfnq8

[@philhawkins3679]

Hi Chris I was wondering if you could share the setting you used for cutting eva foam. I went and bought a laser master 2 pro s2 after watching your video and am struggling with settings. I tried asking on the ortur fb group but everyone just warns me it might be dangerous without proper ventilation and no one has helped. Cheers Phil

[@LostWax]

So, I haven't used it for cutting foam since I did the review, just because I have been busy with other things, but on my test piece with the 6mm foam, I found that 600mm/sec at 40% power cut through in one pass, as did 300mm/sec at 20% power. That is with the 10W laser of course. Sorry I haven't done more than that with foam. I have cut some 1/8" HDF and some 3mm acrylic, and both of those worked pretty good, though I did need 4 passes with the HDF.

[@maximusdarja]

Try octoprint. You'll like it.

[@ImaginationDesign]

Thanks for the review. My day job pays well enough for me to be looking at an Xtool 20W laser. I love that you can cut foam with it - my knife cuts were honed cutting leather - but the filigree work is a beoch! Why 20W? Metal etching. Being a longtime cosplayer, I’ve had to learn a lot.

[@LostWax]

Nice!!

[@samfenimore8868]

Fantastic Video Chris!

[@LostWax]

Many thanks!

[@malcolmgladman9129]

Another great video. Can you tell me what laser safety glasses you used and where you got them. Thanks

[@LostWax]

Yep, these are the ones I got: amzn.to/3TdfhwL (affiliate link) Make sure any ones you get are OD 6+ and are good for 445nm wavelength

[@malcolmgladman9129]

@@LostWax Thank you.

[@xydoestuff]

Can you make a PKE METER?

[@baldeagleKB]

How did you translate your pdf pattern pieces into Lightburn ?

[@LostWax]

I used the original svg file that is not divided into pages.

[@CaulderLeather]

Those scales came out awesome! Did you make or purchase that file? I'd like to try it with my 60w machine on leather.

[@LostWax]

I made it, I'd be happy to share it with you, maybe just send me an email at [e-mail] and I can send it your way.

[@boterorico]

How well would this laser work to cut fabrics like cotton hyperlon, nylon, etc?

[@LostWax]

I know it can cut certain fabrics, you just have to make sure it is a material that doesn't burn too easily or release toxic gasses.

[@Sairren37]

Just watched your video, but wanted to ask if this would be good for up to 8mm or 10mm foam? I really love making full armor sets, but it takes a lot of time to go through the process of printing the templates, cutting them out, tracing etc. A machine like this that can cut at least up to 1/4in. foam would be incredibly useful and I wouldn't mind building my own enclosure or looking up how to make one. For a machine like this, I'd use it for making everything from Halo ODST armor to scaled-down 40k Space Marine armor. I'll also ask the manufacturer, but thought I'd comment first.

[@LostWax]

I think it will, but I haven't actually tried 8-10mm yet so can't say absolutely certainly. It has no problems with 6mm foam though (1/4") so I am expecting it to work with a bit thicker foam.

[@GoingApeCostume]

This is the video I needed in my life! Do you think you could take this thing and store it vertically when you're not using it? That's one of my hurdles with getting a laser cutter - storage.

[@LostWax]

Well, I've been storing this one on it's side for now, and it seems fine- probably would recommend it being on the side away from the limit switches so there isn't constant pressure on the one. Also, probably a good idea to have it fastened to a base at least for support.

[@oddlytimbotwillison6296]

You can hang it vertically for storage as they are quite light. Not a good idea to use it vertically though.

[@pauldanielbailey]

I've never used anything like this before. How did you get your test patterns into the software? Does it take a scanned image or did you have to program it all in?

[@LostWax]

So, I am not totally familiar with the software yet, but you can use either a vector file such as an SVG or a raster image such as a jpeg. So far I have only used vector images for cutting and raster images for engraving. So, yes, you could scan an image in, convert it to greyscale and then use it to output to the laser. The darker the grayscale, the deeper the laser will engrave. I'm not sure though if you can use a raster image for cutting, because, as I understand it, it needs that vector path to follow. Obviously, I don't know that much yet, maybe someone else can chime in:)

[@OGS-Steve]

Any chance this would allow you to sell kits if some of your projects? My cutting is terrible.

[@LostWax]

Probably not, there's just too much time involved with taking physical orders and posting things out. I already feel like I never have enough time to actually work on new patterns:)

[@AlienRelics]

Please! Turn the music down!

[@LostWax]

Noted. It is so hard to get a good balance.

[@clarkjanes3094]

Ha! Your daughter almost fired you. Very good video. Thanks!

[@LostWax]

😂

[@leonbroekx]

What is the max foam thickness?

[@LostWax]

I'm not sure, I'll have to do some more testing....

[@dakiniagency]

@@LostWax that would be amazing.

[@openhearts3466]

Zip tie song! 😂😆🎼🎵🎶🎙

[@LostWax]

It's pretty catchy, been going through my head for the last day or two.

[@KlubdelosLokos]

¿Sombrero salacot, cuando?

[@maksimzarubin39]

СПАСИБО БОЛЬШОЕ =))))

[@JemicoTX]

Yes. My 150W Laser is even faster!!! :)

[@LostWax]

Awww yeah!

[@JonMadsen70]

:)

[@timt1346]

Thanks for sharing your insight! I'm super excited to try some tool foam cutting for work. I've tried a hot knife, but what a pain (and the smell is even worse than soldering fumes). Good to see you're passing some of it on to your daughter as well. Kids are sponges for this kind of stuff

[@RCVOODOO]

All angled cuts would still have to be done with a knife I suppose since the lazer is fixed on the gantry. Really great review. I have been researching lazer cutters myself for a while. 👍

[@LostWax]

Yes...and no... Ben Eadie has a video where he shows how you can use the laser to cut bevels when it is in engraving mode. Here's the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmLVhX6Grdh8fdE

[@RCVOODOO]

@@LostWax thanks. I'll go watch that now!

[@seekertosecrets]

1:22 " Something, Something, Dark Side. Something something complete..." Ha... "Blue Harvest" vibes. 2:15 That's just bad optics already! What if you don't have internet access? 3:05 i would not blame her at all! If I was that kid, I would have left too. 10:00 Okay so this is interesting because it can print text on clothing. The downside my my idea is the fabric I would like to put the image on. If the laser heats up on contact, I can kiss that idea goodbye! So that answers my question. If it burns, pass.

[@DIYGene]

That is fantastic. I really do think you should do a video on building the inclosure.

[@deannamiller]

Amazing! Did you try any thicker EVA foam?

[@LostWax]

I haven't yet, but I certainly will.

[@JacobHGamez]

Cool

[@kimberlyking3083]

This is so awesome. I am definitely going to look into getting one of these.

[@LostWax]

Yep, I'm looking forward to getting lots of use out of it.

[@skmetal7]

awesome review. can you cut through 4mm solid rubber sheet?

[@LostWax]

Hmm, not sure, you'd want to check if that's a safe material to cut.

[@philippkowalski1105]

With all due respect but it seems you lost a little bit the feeling for your tribe here on KZbin. Basically I purchased because of your recommendation. Can't you just share your settings for people who have the same laser cutter?

[@LostWax]

Hey there, I'm so sorry, I thought I had replied to your previous question-obviously not though. My bad. As for settings for foam, for the 2mm What-the-foam, the lowest power setting that would still make a complete cut was 600mm/s at 30%power. For the 6mm medium density foam I used 600mm/sec at 40% as well as 300mm/sec at 20% and both of those worked. I hope that's a little more helpful:)

[@katejouanneau1560]

Yeeeeaaah! The iconic ugly mug makes an appearence at the 6:46 mark. Not sure why, but I love this... 🤷🏼‍♀️😁

[@LostWax]

Maybe you love it because it is so loveable:) I love it too. Best mug ever.

[@TobySabol]

Was it a challenge to convert your designs for the laser cutter? What is the learning curve? Is there a learning curve? Thanks!

[@LostWax]

It all depends on how the designs are originally made- My originals are vector format, which is perfect for the cutter, the only thing is that I often overlap lines, say when I am mirroring two halves of a piece. Although when you look at it, it looks like one line but the laser sees it as two and therefore cuts that spot twice. And yes there is a learning curve, it's not bad though if you are used to working with vector graphics. You can also use any greyscale image and import it to use as a file for engraving. (different than cutting, as it takes much longer because the laser cuts the whole image back and forth, line by line.

[@FN43]

Thats so cool! hope to see new videos more often!

[@LostWax]

Yeah, I'm pretty slow at getting content out, but I'll try:)

[@killashandrad]

Is this machine 5w, 10w or higher?? I cant find the info ! Thanks for making this video btw !

[@LostWax]

The laser on this machine is a 10w laser.

[@garymessham7021]

would this work on the proton pack build?

[@LostWax]

It would if you expanded the cut lines by a couple of mm around each piece. I have always calculated my pieces with allowance for the extra that is added on when the pattern is traced and cut, but the laser cuts right on the line. I think it's not too hard to add the offset cut in Lightburn though.

[@JemicoTX]

Those freestanding laser cutters are EYE destroyers and should not even be used!!! So much danger.

[@LostWax]

Even in an enclosure?

[@JemicoTX]

@@LostWax , having laser cutters properly enclosed with proper fume extraction and site windows (if wanting to view the work while in operation) is the ideal solution. Note that the wavelength of light from that diode laser will not be impeded by acrylic, polycarbonate, or glass. So site windows from those materials is not an option. My comment is largely motivated by the legality of selling a complete Class 4 laser system absent of any minimal and expected enclosure and interlocks. The product liability alone (absent of legality) makes it surprising a company would market such a system. Imagine buying a bedroom fan absent of blade guards.

[@LostWax]

@@JemicoTX Yes, that makes a lot of sense! There should be giant warning labels on these cutters. Could I ask for clarification on the subject of sight windows- I notice companies selling orange tinted acrylic as enclosure windows- are those not able to stop the wavelength? If not, what would you recommend?

[@philippkowalski1105]

because of this very video, I got inspired to get me a laser cutter myself. Thank you @LostWax - My question is what settings you used for 2mm and 6mm foam on that very machine (I have exactly the same just not the extension kit)? It can do a lot of cool sh*t, e. g. I use it to cut and score paper models, create awesome wooden presents etc etc.

[@clon210]

perfect, I am also thinking on bying one laser cutter, discovering this new ones that are so small. Your honest review is so helpfull. I thing the big problem is the air suply. That one have to think a way to ventilate it. Your solutions for it was very ingenious.

[@robertbarnes4887]

Just curious did ortur send that to you or you bought it? Thats my first question the second question is. Would you like to see a bunch of things you can do with it or how you can modify it? If so ask me for my email and I will surprise you with many ideas I have a few of the ortur laser master 2 and I use lightburn.

[@LostWax]

Ortur sent it to me, I didn't purchase it myself. and, yes I'd like to see some amazing things!

[@robertbarnes4887]

Just send me an email and remind me who you are I will forward the stuff to you to give you ideas as well as did they reach out to you or did you reach out to ortur in order to get the free equipment and do you have to send it back or no?

[@plumpcosplay8562]

The level of how you modify things is mind blowing… I know that this item is out of my budget and I also don’t have the know how to create an enclosure but I’m definitely daydreaming about lasers now… Great video

[@LostWax]

Hehe, well, as great as the laser is, a nice sharp scalpel will still get the job done, costs $7 and you can put it in a drawer when you’re done with it. 😁The main thing is to use what you’ve got. Thanks so much for watching!

[@maximusdarja]

I got a cheap Chinese knockoff for 130 USD, and am in the process of making the money I need with that to get an Ortur. Wish me luck!!

[@JacquiGiesbrecht]

Great video Chris! I especially enjoyed the parts with your assistant 😉.

[@LostWax]

Pretty great assistant!!

[@NGOODYHERE100]

I want one! Love all your videos. Crafting or reviews. Keep them coming!

[@LostWax]

Thank you!!

[@patrickpaez8086]

Would love to get this! Now I just need a spot for it :(

[@LostWax]

I hear you.......

[@murda7740]

Great review! Do you have to reformat your patterns for the laser software? I am seriously thinking about picking one up.

[@LostWax]

I would need to clean some things up, as in if I have lines that overlap each other, even though you can't see that there are two because they are right on top of each other, the laser will cut them twice.

[@murda7740]

@@LostWax with your skill and talent I have no doubts you will make quick work of that. I bet you will be able to program those bevel cuts as well! Cheers!

[@LostWax]

@@murda7740 Hehe, I'm actually quite a slow worker, which often frustrates me, but hey, as long as the job eventually gets done I guess:)

[@ivantheterrible2796]

@@LostWax I would love to see a video on how you would go about making a pattern in software. Then modify it for the laser then print it. I have been looking at theese for ages and have not pulled the trigger. Great informative video. Thank You.

[@LostWax]

@@ivantheterrible2796 Yeah, I have only done a little fooling around with design software, The thing is, I try to simplify stuff as much as possible, so it would likely still entail me making the computer generated one and then re-drafting the pattern for simplicity. Though I should look again......

[@paulawallis]

You could 3D print your own drag chain for the power cable & air assist hose. You could probably also connect it to a Raspberry Pi to access it remotely. Thanks for also talking about the safety aspect too

[@LostWax]

Actually you just got me thinking, maybe I could utilise the drag chain from the base version for those cables…

[@pauldanielbailey]

Every time I get a notification that you have a new video it reminds me of what Christmas morning felt like as a kid! This video was like that except it's going to result in me spending some money. I've made several of your stampunk related items and I love your work. The crafting process is just super fun with one exception...transferring and cutting the patterns. No matter how hard I try the pieces are never perfect and although "good enough," a tool that will do it in a fraction of the time and cut them perfectly??? BOOM! Also, as a woodworker I can use this to burn in patterns and logos and all that kind of fun stuff. Thanks for another amazing video and super useful info. BTW, Please oh please do a video on your air filter and set up for your laser laser laser. Thanks Chris! Your status as my hero remains steadfast.

[@LostWax]

Hi Paul, I am glad you still like my videos:) I will likely do a video on the enclosure build sometime, (though I didn't film some of the early steps cause I was in a hurry) but it will likely be on my other channel- kzbin.info